Hello everyone,
i own a Raphael since January and in this time it allready killed 2 SD-Cards.
The first one about 4 months ago.
Suddenly in the middle of usage the Raphael froze and i could not get it started again. even after a hardreset it was stuck in the bootscreen.
after a lot of trying and finally removing the sd card it bootet again without a problem.
the card was not readable anymore in any of my devices or windows boxes.
i thougth myself. well can happen even when a card is only half a year old got a new 8GB card and forgot about the incident.
yesterday while listening to some podcast suddenly the sound died. taking out the phone i found out it did not reacted to any power button presses or anything the screen stayed black.
after a softreset the phone worked again but took about 5 minutes to get in a usable state and the programms installed on the sd card where not aviable anymore.
taking a closer look i found that the card was not displayed in file explorer anymore.
gave it a try with my mp3 player. same result no card was found.
today in the morning i gave it a try on the pc with an sd-adabter. but also no result, wondows does not even recocnizes any device being plugged in. tryed a few data recover tools but non of them found the card.
someone has similiar experiances or any tips how i could get my data back from the card?
i guess the phone has to be send back for maintainance, but i doubt that they will find anything, if they accept it at all.
I have changed 4 sd cards because of similar problems. But the problem is most likely because of the fragility of high capacity microSDs, I wouldn't blame Raphael. Try other manufacturers (and try to find the ones that are not just rebranded)
I've had many issues with sd card corruption, but have solved some of the issues. Here's my advice (fwiw):
1. Get a card scanner, and regularly scan your catd. I do it everyday (takes 5 min). I use Wizcode Scandisk. It fixes errors and dumps out files that can be opened in notepad. It's worth looking at them, as it helped me find the multiple sources of corruption that I had.
2. Don't put your PIE cache on the card.
3. Change all 'save' paths (esp. the camera) to main memory.
4. Store any programs you use a lot on main memory.
5. Do NOT have any programs that run constantly on the sd card.
6. Do NOT put Fingerkeyboard on the sd card (major problem for me).
Basically, my advice is to use sd cards for storage. The Raphael has a lot of memory-use it for programs. I haven't had to format my card in about 4 months. I was doing it every couple of weeks for a while.
well basically i was using my sd card as a storage place for movies and podcast + podcastplayer prog.
and was using the player more or less the whole day.
i used the same card (and the other one before) also in my mp3 player when the raphael or the bt headset run out of power and there is no power outlet aviable to recharge. and twice the card failed in the rapahel.
when i got a new card, i also found that the card is working 100% on pc and mp3 player, but the raphael still can not see any sd card.
i really blame the phone and also assume that it now has a defective reader.
have to give it back to repairs as soon i have flashed the original firmware and make my way back to the store
You should scan the disk to find out the error sources. It may be something simple that causing them. Also, if your phone freezes when listening to music, you may want to either wait it out, or remove the card before soft resetting. You should do some searches on card corruption. There are lots of threads here that can be helpful.
many Sdcard and usbStick manufacturers got lowlevel format tools you can download and get cards not otherwise working in cardreaders on pc back to life
would love to get those cards working again. but i also would love to get the data back that was on them.
but the problem is the cards do not even appear on the pc, or any other device i have that can read/write them (usb card reader, digi cam, mp3 player)
its just as if nothing is ever inserted in the reader.
the low level format tools don't rely on windows driver model to detect cards
Flash Format (cnetx) has always been able to re-format my card, even when my pc couldn't recognize it and neither could my fuze. It has a free trial that works fine.
I haven't experienced any of these issues myself. But I'm sure I will now that I said that....
i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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Check C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\CNETX-you'll find the cab in there. There will be several-you want the PPC-Arm one. It should install fine.
Card Freeze
Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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The storage memory on the device is flash, not ram, so you don't lose program memory changing the save paths to main memory (if that's what you meant by moving data to main memory).
I never had any issues with my storage cards (sd and cf) on my 2003 device. I don't think it was the device, but rather the cards. The big, 16 gb cards just seem to be less hardy than a 1-2 gb card. I had all my apps on the storage card (including stuff like magic button), and never had a problem. But, jeez, the 16 g microsd is sensitive as hell. It gets minor bits of corruption at least once a week. I scan it everyday to avoid it crashing, which has helped, because I've gone 4 months without formatting it. One thing that I've found screws it up royally is doing a lot of file/directory operations over active sync on a pc. I don't know why, but cutting and pasting files from one folder to another in the sd card frequently results in lost clusters. Renaming folders is also a bad idea.
OK Flash
Well I guess I didn't explain it correctly. According to HTC the RAM is 288MB with a ROM of 512MB. So I'm really confused since according to the start>settings>system>memory the total for my storage and my program = 549MB which is of course more than 288 and 512. So when I load applications into my device and get a choice of main or storage card when it was a large file (some apps I use were 14 megs or more) I would choose the storage card.
My old experience with Windows CE was whatever memory was on the device was shared with both the program and storage, so I would put as much as possible on my storage card. However in windows 6.1 or higher it lists two separate columns for Program and Storage with: Total, In Use, and Free. So when I install apps I presumed they went into the storage area. Am I mistaken? I figured Program on the device meant how much is currently in use. Kinda like opening multiple windows on a PC. I notice it's low when at once I have 4 applications open on my windows mobile device so that's what I thought Program memory was.
Therefore does installing to the Main, when given a choice during program installation. where does it get installed ROM, RAM? Why is my total memory higher than RAM or the ROM
Any insight would help me decide the best location for my program installation to not corrupt the data, or have the flash card screw me up either.
288 MB is the total amount of system ram. A large amount is not user-accessible, it's used by the kernel/OS/Page-pool, so you don't see it reported. It's still there, though. The rom memory is 512 MB, but the actual memory in rom is subtracted by the storage memory so you see the amount of user-available memory. With 2003 devices, if the battery ran down, you lost all of your data, because the storage memory was in RAM (except perhaps for a little flash disk space). But with a fuze, you can pull the battery out, and not lose your data.
Totally confused
OK your right about the 2003 devices which is why I placed most of my stuff on a storage card. However why is my total reported memory 549MB more than the 512 ROM? Also when I install stuff to the device where does it get stored, the 512 ROM? Are you saying that the 200mb of Program being shown is 288 RAM minus the 88 being used to run the OS?
So are you saying its safe to install all my apps onto the device and I won't lose anything if the battery runs out?
Yeah, I've been saying that for about 3 weeks, lol! They got rid of the volatile storage memory with winmo 5; we're onto 6.5 now, and it's a thing of the distant past. I you don't believe me, pull out your battery (there's no backup battery on the device) and see if it causes a hard reset.
This is not an uncommon problem with digital cameras, as well. It's complicated, but the bottom line is this: whenever you buy an SD/micro SDHC/etc. card, you should do a full format of it on your COMPUTER, then put it in your device.
Hi all,
I recently purchased and installed a larger Micro SD card for my TD2. I did what "Bruce Inman" said after i asked my question about replacing the SD card and how to retain all my data (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671656). Anyway i copied everything across as instructed and now my start menu icons are in a grid of 4 instead of 3 it used to be....i previously had TD2 Tools 3 installed and remember the setting in TD2 Tools "Start Menu Icon Spacing" so i thought i would check this as maybe it had changed from 3 - 4, upon doing so the application is greyed out and i can make no changes to this option...i thought maybe it some problem with the phone so i rebooted and it made no change. I removed all the my additional apps excluding TD2 Tools and the problem still occurs. I decided to remove TD2 Tools and it sort of worked, it made my start menu icons appear in a 3 icon per line grid but all the text names become really small like size 2 instead of the normal. I`m at a loss what i can do to fix this and would like someones input if possible, Reinstalling TD2 Tools sets the icon spacing to 4 but in TD2 Tools itself its set to 3 and i cannot change it.
Ive attached some screenshots for better reflection of the issue. The first is the icon spacing which clearly shows 4 icons per line instead of 3 and the TD2 Tools application with the option greyed out is the second
You install TD2 Tools to main memory, correct?
Recently my 16gb San Disk crashed and I copied everything to a 16gb Kingston.
The main folders that have to stay intact is your Application Data folder and Program Files.
This worked seamlessly for me.
SD card should not have affected your start menu unless your folder structure changed.
Are you stalking my posts Bruce???
Anyway i think i installed TD2 to my SD card as i didnt want to clutter the device with apps and games....figured it would be fine to do this...
So im still stuck with my problem...
maybe there is a registry key or something thats funked stuff up, hell i dunno, all i know is after swapping SD cards Ive had nothing but issues, especially with device performance
Oh i should mention i reinstalled the old SD card, reset my phone and the problem still occurred, figured it was worth a shot
Gave up so i reflashed to the Stock HTC 6.5 ROM....dunno what happened but now i have the annoying task of reinstalling and remembering what i had installed
I also have a problem with my memeory card..It's so slow when saving files and copying files. I dunno what the problem is..
trixie0604 said:
I also have a problem with my memeory card..It's so slow when saving files and copying files. I dunno what the problem is..
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Hi Trixie, Im pretty sure this the phone HTC Proprietary port transfer rate doin this....i usually use a USB Micro SD Adapter to move all my data across and it super fast over USB, as soon as i use the HTC USB Port with the cable its slower.
I did not write this however will share what I found here: (worked great for me)
http://wrtapps.com/2012/11/free-up-4gb-of-space-on-your-windows-rt-device/
By default the Surface and other Windows 8 tablets have 4GB of disk space used up by the Recovery partition. Microsoft has provided a way to transfer the recovery partition to a 4GB USB drive and free up the space. It’s fairly simple to do as well.
A minimum of a 4GB USB stick will be required for this. You will not be able to use this USB stick for anything else after you finish this process, unless you want to completely get rid of your recovery disk which is not recommended. The stick will be reformatted and you will lose anything you have on it, so make sure to back it up if it used to have any important data.
1.Go to desktop mode
2.Open the right hand charms bar by swiping from right to left
3.Go to Settings
4.Touch the text that says “Control Panel”
5.When your control panel opens up, make sure it’s in categories mode and touch it says Systems and Securities
6.Click on File History
7.In the bottom left corner it says “Recovery” touch that
8.Make sure your USB stick is inserted
9.Go through the prompts Microsoft provides
10.At the end of the process the dialog will ask you if you want to delete the Recovery Partition, touch yes.
Congratulations! Now you’ve freed up 4gb of space on your Surface! This is important if you have only 32gb of space since the internal drive is the only one you can install applications on.
Now I recommend you make a back up of that Recovery USB stick, make a copy in a folder on your Desktop PC, on the Internal MicroSD card in your Surface, or on another USB stick. I’m personally keeping a back up of the USB sticks data on my 64GB MicroSD card and my Desktop Computer. Point being you need to take very good care of that USB Stick in case something ever goes wrong with your surface!
Alternate way to get to the prompt:
1) Hit start
2) Type in 'Recovery'
3) Hit 'Settings'
4) Hit 'Create a recovery drive'
Works Great ! Thank
thanks for the tip. I've done a recovery usb a while back and do not remember what I did at step 10 where you write it should offer to delete the one on the Surface. So how can I make sure the recovery partition is removed ?
thanks
diskmgmt.msc (or "Disk Management" or "Computer Management" -> "Disk Management) or diskpart.exe (command-line tool).
I have, it seems, quite a big problem. Some weeks ago I noticed some anomalies: photos were not saved after taking them with the camera, swiftkey was sending me notification about the 'not possible to save personal predictions' and so on, and I could not access the pictures gallery: 'sd card mounted as storage' and then would quit to the home screen.
I noticed then with root explorer that the microsd was mounted as 'read only'. Ok, put it back to R/W and things worked again.....for a couple minutes. Then again, read only and the same story.
I put the card in a card reader, checked with windows for errors: impossible to repair the media (sorry I don't know the exact words in english, but that would be the chkdsk function). Ok.....worst solution: back up the things, format the card, put the things back on the card. Well:
1 - back up the things = impossible. I chose something like 800MB out of 32GB of the microsd....and it was copying at 5KB/s. Definitely not normal
2 - I managed to copy the necessary things. format the card = impossible. Normal format would begin, and then one millimiter before the progress bar goes to 100%, it says 'impossible to format the card'. If I choose 'fast format', it says it right away. If I use some other tool like HP usb tool, it says impossible to format.
GOOD. I thought the card was dead....so I bought a new one (a genuine Kingston, 32GB). Things were working properly. But yesterday exactly the same happened: camera not usable, gallery that doesn't show the pictures, swiftkey doesn't give me predictions.
I check with windows: same thing. Cannot repair errors, cannot format the card. BUT I can copy from it and write on it with normal speeds. The phone would still go to read only and make a mess making the whole system unusable.
A small note: a LONG time ago I did edit the boot filesystem, in a way that the system mounts the physical microsd card as 'mass storage internal memory' and the real internal memory (12GB, in the case of samsung note) as 'physical micro sd'. This was a 'fix' from XDA, to make all the market application install the data on the bigger partition (microsd) instead of the (quite small) 12 GB partition.
But I don't think it makes a difference. Photos and stuff are really on the physical 32GB microsd, and it is not working. Also the thing that I cannot format it from windows is very strange. And this is a new genuine card bought last week. What kind of sorcery is this? Can it be that the phone's card reader somehow damages the card itself ????
Hi!
I have Motorola G7 power xt-1955-4.
And I also got a 512gb Kingston hama sdcard.
The card was formatted as internal storage.
The problem is that today I saw that I can't access the files on my phone. This happened after I moved several files from phone to my computer, to free up some space.
Now, when I open File manager it shows "main storage not available".
I reinserted my SD card a couple of times, but I keep having a notification saying "checking sdcard... Reviewing current content".
When I go to Settings - Storage it says only "sdcard checking..".
When I press on "Checking sd card" notification only it gives me the option to Forget.
How can I access my SD card without formatting it?
Thank you.
You said you moved some files from the card to your PC? How did you do this? If you removed the card from the phone and put it in your PC, then what you effectively did was slice off part of your phone's storage, messed with the files, and put it back in. You cut off a piece of brain, rooted around in it, and tried to reattach it.
Internal storage means the card is not removable, and the storage space will be filled with files essential to the phone. Chances are to get the card to work again it needs to be reformatted.
dannyetlv said:
Hi!
I have Motorola G7 power xt-1955-4.
And I also got a 512gb Kingston hama sdcard.
The card was formatted as internal storage.
The problem is that today I saw that I can't access the files on my phone. This happened after I moved several files from phone to my computer, to free up some space.
Now, when I open File manager it shows "main storage not available".
I reinserted my SD card a couple of times, but I keep having a notification saying "checking sdcard... Reviewing current content".
When I go to Settings - Storage it says only "sdcard checking..".
When I press on "Checking sd card" notification only it gives me the option to Forget.
How can I access my SD card without formatting it?
Thank you.
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Sorry I'm a bit late. I had this same issue recently. Until now, I have had a problem with any program recognizing the drive without offering to format it first. I can't do that because I am stupid and had important files on there I need. I just located DiskGenius and I am running it now.
Not sure this will repair the issue, but it recognized the sd card which I had set as the primary storage not knowing something like this could happen. It is running a search now for bad sectors. When it finds them, it will provide a repair, but the sectors will be deleted. I am hoping it won't be the sectors that contain my files that I need to recover. But it's a step in the right direction.
I now know not to set an sd card as main storage for Android, because it encrypts the files, and it tied the SD card to the system. I can't even install apps right now because the main storage is non existent.
I just had to throw out a 62g card due to corruption. I do t know how it happened but I eventually had to factory reset/wipe phone. I put the card in a laptop to reformat it. Wouldn't work. I'm getting a new card, but I will not make it phone storage. Bummed me out.