T-mobile MDA vario or Cingular 8125??? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

1-) I've been using T-mobile MDA vario for 4 months. I love it. Now, I want to buy the same phone for my sister. However, I am not sure which one to buy. Cingular 8125 or T-Mobile Mda vario. As far as I know they are pretty much the same phones, however, there might be some littlie difference that I don't know. If anyone know what the differences are please help me to choose. (differences not including the appearences of the phones)
2-) I am also not sure why Mda costs a little bit more than the 8125.(compared prices at ebay) I would appreciate if someone could explain me this point too.

ok, the reason the 8125 cost less then the MDA is because theres the 8525 out now for cingular, therefore people dont want the old stuff, they want the new stuff...whereas the MDA's successor hasnt come out in the US so MDA is the only one of its kind...now as for the differences besides the body, the device is CID and SIM locked to Cingular, but you can change that buy unlocking it...umm no other differences, besides that MDA and 8125 come in G3 and G4...

Malik05 said:
ok, the reason the 8125 cost less then the MDA is because theres the 8525 out now for cingular, therefore people dont want the old stuff, they want the new stuff...whereas the MDA's successor hasnt come out in the US so MDA is the only one of its kind...now as for the differences besides the body, the device is CID and SIM locked to Cingular, but you can change that buy unlocking it...umm no other differences, besides that MDA and 8125 come in G3 and G4...
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Thanks for the reply. I am not sure about the last thing you said. DO you say that MDA always comes in G3 and the 8125 comes with G4?
If not, then is there any way to determine if the phone is G3 or G4 when buying it? I mean I can find out if it is G3 or G4 if I use and see the phone, however, when buying it online I don't have an opportunity to look at IPL and SPL.
I personally would like G3, since there much less problems with it when flashing a ROM.

im saying that both devices can come in both G4 or G3...a G4 device will show an IPL/SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 will show something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!) and u can see this when u do a softreset on the device, the numbers will show up in the top left in red....

Malik05 said:
im saying that both devices can come in both G4 or G3...a G4 device will show an IPL/SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 will show something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!) and u can see this when u do a softreset on the device, the numbers will show up in the top left in red....
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Yes, but if I am buying the device online, I can't check if it is G3 or G4 before I buy it, right?

im afraid not, unless you are getting it from eBay or something, you can ask the seller to check for you

danik_iceman said:
1-) I've been using T-mobile MDA vario for 4 months. I love it. Now, I want to buy the same phone for my sister. However, I am not sure which one to buy. Cingular 8125 or T-Mobile Mda vario. As far as I know they are pretty much the same phones, however, there might be some littlie difference that I don't know. If anyone know what the differences are please help me to choose. (differences not including the appearences of the phones)
2-) I am also not sure why Mda costs a little bit more than the 8125.(compared prices at ebay) I would appreciate if someone could explain me this point too.
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Why do we have two threads started by you on this? grrr. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1197867#post1197867
--M

I don't know if you would call my opinion more of looks as it is "functionality". But you have a MDA, so i think you could relate:
The keyboard on the MDA is by far more efficient to use than the 8125 (sorry 8125 owners). The buttons are separated and aren't merged together. The tactile buttons on the face of the device are more convenient, because they are easily accessible with the fingers. Unlike the 8125 which are small and on the four corners, the MDA has larger buttons, great for those who have small or big fingers
However, software/roms will operate the same on both devices, as roms are built for either devices.
I owned the MDA before, and I recently purchased the NEW 8525. The 8525 very much reminds me of the 8125 keyboard, as all the keyboard buttons are touching (really annoying). Also, there is no quotation key (") on the keyboard which i use during text messages when i'm quoting someone. Personally, if they could hyrbidize the MDA keyboard with the speed of the 8525 I would be one happy guy!
(please read above carefully, do not mix my comments about the 8125 with 8525)

Cingular Refurbish G3
fyi... i just got a cingular 8125 (refurbished version) off the website. it is the G3 version. not sure if they are all that way though....

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Cingular 8125 / MDA ? Thinking about buying it but have ?'s

I have been a Treo 650 user with cingular for 18 months now and have been happy with it. I have experimented with lots of the software available for download and enjoyed that a lot to. I have been looking for another phone and I just found a post by treonaut on the treo web site all about the MDA. The post was very good and has my attention but still I am very new to this MDA phone and am looking for some info. On the Cingular web site i found the model 8125 and am very interested in that cell. I think the 8125 is an MDA type cell, not sure if the MDA is a particular model or a catagory type cell. Next, as with the Treo 650 there is tons of software downloads to play with and experiment. Is there any software out to do the same with for these MDA cells? In particular the 8125? If so, ware do I find it all? I have been useing the xWeather program for my Treo and would hate to have to give it up along with many other programs that I use on my Treo. Next, are the sim cards the same? Can i use one from my 650 in the 8125 type MDA cell? OK, no more questions for now, I will stop here. I would really like to buy the 8125 after reading what treonaut had to say but will not jump. Thanks for any help offered ...
To answer your questions:
1. Cingular 8125=Tmobile MDA=HTC Wizard with each having very minor modifications.
2. Tons of software are also available for download for the 8125. All that stuff you saw in my review I did with built-in software or with freebies. I also have a program that puts the weather data on my Today page. To date, I have not bought a single WM5 program. Search xda-developers in the Wizard section. Also read the very good MDA and 8125 faqs over at howardforums.com. In general any program designed for Windows Mobile 5 (WM5) and the ARM processor should work with this series of devices. So do a google search for goodies.
3. Sims remain the same. I sometimes swap sims between the MDA and the 650 without a problem.
4. Check out Amazon.com for better pricing on the 8125/MDA.
Thanks very much for the info. I will check it out and most likely get the 8125 soon.. I want to make sure I know ware to get all the extra programs and understand how to install them. I have no clue about what cables i will need to hook it to my notebook and what software i will need to use to install things. The Treo is easy to install things with the Palm one quick install program so I need to find out what to use to do these things yet. Thanks again.
Wait and buy the 8525. It is coming in few weeks
400MHz processor
HSDPA
Etc..
Just made a deal with Cingular for a new 8125 with my corporate discount for 200 bucks. I will have same number and my 450 roll over plan with the unlimited data package for the same 53 bucks a month. It was a good deal so I took it. Now to find all the tricks and goodies

Recomend phone purchase Used

Ive had a MDA w/tmobile and loved it but it just wore out and failed. I had it up to 260 mhz . I here there are other htc phones that are faster, I am with Tmobile so I need sim support. Am looking at MDA's now and there are many for sale.
I wanted to get some imput before I buy so I dont make a mistake if there is somthing better, I had no problems flashing
Thanks
W4ZOO said:
Ive had a MDA w/tmobile and loved it but it just wore out and failed. I had it up to 260 mhz . I here there are other htc phones that are faster, I am with Tmobile so I need sim support. Am looking at MDA's now and there are many for sale.
I wanted to get some imput before I buy so I dont make a mistake if there is somthing better, I had no problems flashing
Thanks
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ATT Tilts/HTC Kaiser - 400MHz (the best phone in my opinion, and dutty just made it better)
HTC Touch Dual - 400MHz (used it for a few days, I love it, but no WiFi)
There are so many out there now, but those two is my favorite. Its only 39.99 to unlock them.
HTC Hermes is what I was using. Great phone and its 400Mhz. Unlocking these should be free following instructions here on the forums.
Ebay also has a bunch, look for softbank xo1ht, dopod 838 pro, htc hermes, etc.
Edit: I believe the Hermes is the MDA II if I am not mistaken... aka t-mobile wing. You might want to call t-mobile and tell them your mda broke and you want to switch.
courtlandre said:
HTC Hermes is what I was using. Great phone and its 400Mhz. Unlocking these should be free following instructions here on the forums.
Ebay also has a bunch, look for softbank xo1ht, dopod 838 pro, htc hermes, etc.
Edit: I believe the Hermes is the MDA II if I am not mistaken... aka t-mobile wing. You might want to call t-mobile and tell them your mda broke and you want to switch.
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No it's the Wizard, Thanks for the reply. I am looking for 400mhz but the prices are $250.00 and up I might have to stick with T-Mob Wizard that only 204MHZ stock. But I will look for a bit.
W4ZOO said:
No it's the Wizard, Thanks for the reply. I am looking for 400mhz but the prices are $250.00 and up I might have to stick with T-Mob Wizard that only 204MHZ stock. But I will look for a bit.
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No, its not. Hermes is not the Wizard. Like I say, its a good phone and runs at 400.
courtlandre said:
No, its not. Hermes is not the Wizard. Like I say, its a good phone and runs at 400.
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I was refering to my old phone that bit the dust, It was a Wizard that was slow. But it eveyrthing I needed. I will look on Ebay ...
Thanks
W4ZOO said:
I was refering to my old phone that bit the dust, It was a Wizard that was slow. But it eveyrthing I needed. I will look on Ebay ...
Thanks
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If you are out of contract you could sign up with Sprint. They have a deal 500 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data. 30 bucks a month. HTC titan (like wizard but faster/more memory/smaller) is like 250 after rebates.
courtlandre said:
If you are out of contract you could sign up with Sprint. They have a deal 500 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data. 30 bucks a month. HTC titan (like wizard but faster/more memory/smaller) is like 250 after rebates.
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Thanks, I'm stuck for about a year.
You can always put your MDA up on eBay or Craigslist, and put that into your new phone.
But T-Mobile doesn't have powerful enough Windows Mobile devices as ATT
we3zy said:
You can always put your MDA up on eBay or Craigslist, and put that into your new phone.
But T-Mobile doesn't have powerful enough Windows Mobile devices as ATT
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Just got a AT&T 8525 with WM6 from E-Bay for $199.00 used from a looks to be good seller. Will use it on T-Mobile for now.
Thanks
W4ZOO said:
Just got a AT&T 8525 with WM6 from E-Bay for $199.00 used from a looks to be good seller. Will use it on T-Mobile for now.
Thanks
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Good choice!!
galaxys said:
Good choice!!
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I see your with T-Mobile, any problems. I have to read a little about do and dont's with the 8525, What's your phone have ?
Thanks
you made a good choice. for a used phone, you cant beat the price and solid build of the hermes
W4ZOO said:
I see your with T-Mobile, any problems. I have to read a little about do and dont's with the 8525, What's your phone have ?
Thanks
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Hi, no proplems at all with tmob (but I'm not in fl); I use gprs edge net access a lot. My phone is full of all kinds of apps thanks to the fast & stable TNT rom. Check out the Hermes WM6 section for it & many other great cooked roms! Have Fun!

Cingular 2125 or Tornado

Hey guys,
I have watched and read this forum for about 3 years, upgrading and modding my Cingular 2125 as things changed. I have ran into a bit of a problem with my phone recently and I am debating buying a new lcd and battery or just buying a "new" phone. And by new, I mean another of the same, I love this phone too much to upgrade to a new model. So my question is: I am on the Cingular/ATT network here in the U.S. and like I said, I have the Cingular 2125(Faraday). I was wondering if, in order for it to work on the same network, do I have to buy another 2125 or can I possibly buy a Tornado and thus get the WiFi? Do they all take Sim cards in the same manner? I have searched for this question but couldnt find a clear-cut answer.
Thanks in advance.
Buy a Tornado and unlock it using the unlocking software provided in this forum. Easy as pie and you'll have wifi. Also once unlocked, you'll be able to use the same sim card as you're using now.
Get a Tornado off of eBay. Search of an iMate SP5, a Qtek 8310/8300, or a Dopod (I forget the model). Qtek and Dopod are HTC's old brand names. I bought the Qtek 8310 for like $400 new several years ago. It was an awesome phone, so I understand your interest in keeping it. Both the iMate and the Qtek variations come unlocked and without any carrier bloatware. They will also work perfectly with Cingular/ATT (I know from experience).
As an aside, as much as I loved the Tornado, I don't regret upgrading to my current WM Professional phone, an HTC Touch Cruise, at all...just something to keep in mind if you don't mind spending a bit more.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. Bought a new battery for mine which helped fix the power problem and the screen is a bit blurry in spots but usable, but if it gets too bad I will look for one of these other tornados that you suggested.

Need suggestions on next phone

i have a Treo 800w and can not get VoIP working and looks like after lots of research it isn't gonna happen.
so i am looking at upgrading my sprint treo 800w to an HTC device.
so which has the most options/rom's and so on that has a keyboard on, no touch keyboards for me. i seem to not be able to type and drive at the same time with em to well.
thanks for the input. btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
just need some input.
thanks again
completetech said:
i have a Treo 800w and can not get VoIP working and looks like after lots of research it isn't gonna happen.
so i am looking at upgrading my sprint treo 800w to an HTC device.
so which has the most options/rom's and so on that has a keyboard on, no touch keyboards for me. i seem to not be able to type and drive at the same time with em to well.
thanks for the input. btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
just need some input.
thanks again
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Welcome to the forum
Being a Universal user I agree with you about the physical keyboard!
If you dont mind to wait a few months check Touch Pro 2, it seems a good option.
completetech said:
btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
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Personally, I would stay away from cdma networks if you are going to get an htc device. Tmob and Att would suit you best and customer service is above par.
im in the seame trouble, but i have a big big problem i live in mexico and the news phones is too dificult have in my distribuitor(telcel) i want a Htc pro 2 i the most complete phone, i have a nokia n95 is good, i have a htc excalibur with wm6.1 with cavanna´s rom, is more good jajajjaa,one of my best friends have a xperia, i like but i like omnia but htc pro 2 is the perfect device but i can´t have because telcel is too late for offer devices.
other option is buy in web but that is after i change model by telcel
thanks

Huge question

I have an UNLOCKED HTC 4350 (I Think it's aslo called the herald)
I have WM6 On It And I Want 6.1.
How Do I Do This Since My Phone Isnt Listed
What Phone Is Out There That Is JUST Like This One?
I Was Thinking Either The Mogul, Wing, Or The Tilt Idk
Its Unlocked So If I Choose One Of These Phones, Like The Sprint Mogul, It Will Install Sprint TV, When It Comes On It Will Say Sprint And All That.
But I'm WITH AT&T
Hopefully Someone Can Help Me
Thanks In Advance
You have a Herald if you're using it with AT&T.
This is a good starting point:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
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