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I-Mate Jam Bootloader & Connection error!

Hello XDA Nice Team !
By mistaken i wrote some file to my bootloader in my I-Mate Jam ..
That was after using the bad ROM : 2.03
it's the worst cooked version i saw !
Now my bootloader mode is working .. but no way to connect to PC with USB port ..
My computer does not recognize my Magican when plugged in bootloader mode anymore!
Bootloader Ver: 1.0
is there any way to fix or upgrade or restore original bootloader
Now i cant upgrade or downgrade my magican by any method
Noway to use successful connection with any roomupdate utility
Please help me to fix or restore my bootloader!
Thanks to any one read or replay or try to help or help me to resolve my problem
XDA lover

i'm sorry that happened mate...
i've had success with flash-from-bootloader attempts before, both on my Magician, when i accidentally flashed off of Vista and it'd enter the bootloader every week or on a reset using the reset hole, and also on my Wizard when i ignored warnings from WM5torage and it'd only enter the bootloader
what precisely happens when you connect to the PC, allow USB connections in AS/MDC, and let the phone enter bootloader however it does? i can just flash a rom from there, but i won't (iirc) get any reports of as recognising the device...

My experience:
1- when i plug my sd card into my jam .. usb not recognized in bootloader mood !!
2- when i use puty or roomupdate it reaches to USB> then when i type any command it does not respond !
3- i could do something .. i let my phone bootup and this i-mate logon screen stays 4ever .. i connected my ppc to pc and i could explre my imate by activesync ...
i could reach something .. when i explore my phone and remove everything from startup folder .. my phone boots .. and i can see start botton .. no touch alignment comes .. and everything works .. but.. screen is virtually reversed .. i can see the OK botton but i must click on the facing area and it be clicked ..
i think i executed some wrong hard SPL to my phone ant that happened >
is there any way to resolve this problem?
is there any way to erase flash on my I-Mate Jam????
is there any way flash my phone?
i also have prepaid JAFWM with pkey and USB cable .. no BOX ..
Help please!

that's messed up... howsabout flashing it at the point when the phone boots up? if there's an AS connection there, then it may work... i'd flash to an official rom though

Same problem , PLS Help !!!
Thx for help

You should check USB connection I think...
Try plug your battery out of device and wait a moment (e.g.10 minutes) and try again,sometimes it will be fine when you did this.

If your magician isn't detected at ALL by your PC when plugging the USB cable into it (i mean, no new hardware; no unrecognized hardware; nothing is detected in your PC when you plug the USB cable), and unless you had previously made a SD backup of your entire Flash with this procedure ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianSDflash ), then your only option will be to build a JTAG diag cable:
Here are some general directions / ideias:
Magician JTAG pinout: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianJTAG
How to build/run the JTAG: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DeadBoot
Photos : http://www.cf-box.com/htm_data/55/0912/1679.html
Some interesting stuff for debugging problems: http://pda2u.ru/ptopic205.html
For sure cotulla has one built so to test his ROMs + bootloader - maybe he will be willing to give you some directions if you run into problems, and above all, give you a prepared .nb0 (with the bootloader file) for your magician, which i do not know if there's one out there, extracted from an original ROM.
Anyway, you can always try and do it for yourself using itsme utilities. Follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=218643
Regards

Keeper,you're awesome! I'm searching for JTAG,too

xiaojin1985 said:
You should check USB connection I think...
Try plug your battery out of device and wait a moment (e.g.10 minutes) and try again,sometimes it will be fine when you did this.
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Dear xiaojin1985 ,
Thx for your help, But unfortunately i tried your solution but it dosnt work !

Dear Keeper,
Thanks too for your help,
and i think the solution for my problem is one of the solutions you says ( How to build/run the JTAG: ) ,
but the pictures is not available anymore , so pls can you get the pictures ?

All the pictures are in here:
http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc23/alex_beda/ and in attachment there's a .mth file with all the pics built-in.
Don't take it wrong what i'm about to say, but in all honesty if you can't figure this out yourself (digging up the internet for the missing pics), i would suggest that you shouldn't try this, since this ain't easy at ALL...
Just to give you some ideias, it will require you to adapt your magician test point signals (TDO;TDI; nRESET; etc,)seen on the magician pinout pic to what is said; solder very thin wires (best done with a small hot air tip); fixate the small dip switch (micro switch) to be always on; keep the USB connected...idk... plus alot of other small details which ain't easy to accomplish.
Personally i haven't tried this yet but for sure it would work
If you decide to go ahead, please post some results!

Connection error solution
this is my problem
hi all. A friend of mine gave me an S100, and after i played for a few days with it, i decided to update it's rom. A "country error" problem appeared,cause i have the greek version, so i ran MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe which completed (as showed 100% process). My (new) problem is that i cannot update anymore. Every time i enter boot menu, i ran the upgrade
(HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O2.rar) following all the steps normally. When the device resets (so the upgrade is going to start), it's re-reseting again and showing ERROR 101 connection error. Any ideas?
Qtek Greek version
R 1.12.00
G 1337.42
D 1.12.00 WWE
P.S. apart the problem everything is function properly
and the solution
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run MaUpgradeUt.exe radio_1.11_greek but idont reset the qtek in first screen
and upgrate downgrate start all ok
reset
welcome screen
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run MaUpgradeUt.exe MagicianRadio_1.12.10. uk but idont reset the qteki n first screen
upgrate from radio 1.11 to 1.12.10
reset
welcome screen
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O5_251209
everything is ok my magisian run the new Rom

here..........................

connection problems while flashing SPL

Hello,
I'm realy going insane at the moment.
I try to degrade the SPL from SPL-1.0.OliPof (KAIS130 MFG, CPLD-8 <- whatever that means) back to the orginal one.
What I'm doing is:
1. connect the kaiser without sd card and sim card via active sync to my XP PC.
2. start the bootloader via button and stylus.
3. unplug the usb cable and replug
4. starting the KaiserCustomRUU tool.
the problem is that I always get an error 260 which means that there is no connection between pc and pda. by the way I already tried every possible solution mentioned in this forum.
What i figured out is that after I repluged the usb cable the computer detects the pda but is not able to install a suitable driver. So I have an unrecognized usb device in the device manager. I guess this is the issue but does anybody know how to solve it. I mean which driver is needed in this state?
can anybody help?
greetings,
macx

I must be misreading your post... you don't mention running JumpSPL/SSPL. If you're not doing that, then there's you freebie for the year, and also the solution to your problem.

sorry, my fault.
Point 2 is running SSPL of course. Version 1 leads to a white screen and the other two versions bring up the bootloader.
In the meanwhile I tried so many things that I was a bit confused when I wrote this post.
nevertheless I don't know what to do anymore to make it work.

Bricked? Don´t have a clue!!??

Hi there!
I´ve been a user of XDA for sometime now and glad by the service here!
A friend of mine gave me a Prophet (Qtek S200) saying that was bricked.
I found out that i could put it in bootmode.
I search here for roms and hardspl the wiki in recovery.... well i think that i spend like 12 hours and it still got stucked in bootmode!
So heres the deal, the pc connects to pda and appears the usb on screen of the pda, so i got connection.
Tried custom roms but at the end at 100% flip back to bootmode.
If i trie to do a downgrade with a nvid rom it stuck at 80% and got error 326.
I think that a tried everthing in the Prophet thread but still bootmode...
HardSPL goes to 100% sucess.
Since the first hour that the screen in bootmode says "IPL 2.09 SPL 2.G4.PDA"
Never had this kind of prob on my kaiser but never had a Prophet to!
Is it bricked?
So if you could help me, Thanks in advance!

If you do all things, what you write, than I think it`s bricked. Sorry.
Only thing, try another USB Cable or port on your PC. No Vista System. And the battery must be over 50 %.

NEO130 said:
If you do all things, what you write, than I think it`s bricked. Sorry.
Only thing, try another USB Cable or port on your PC. No Vista System. And the battery must be over 50 %.
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The bat is at full charge and i only tried in xp....
I think it´s a brick...
If only a had a goldcard...

DO this man
First charge the battery for 2 hours.
Second turn the device on and press the com button on the left side.
You will enter boot loader 3 colours.
Install the original Rom.
See if you Rom is G3 or G4 that might be the problem.
Do a update rom use pdamobiz rom step 2 update rom file.
Do a hard spl g3 or g4
install the new rom with the RUU utility.
After entering the Wm6 OS, install the 2.19 radio rom its the most stable one.
Tell me if it worked ok bye.
Note: keep trying several times if the USB connection breaks up it took me a little while to do this the last time it happen to me ok.

O2 XDA Exec Won't Power On after Unccessfull ROM Upgrade

Hi...
I was trying to Upgrade my O2 XDA Exec Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5 by explode. The process went successfully till 99% and after that it ended up with Error. Then I unplugged my pda from the pc and tried to restart the device. I was surprised that the device did not respond to any of the following
Soft Reset
Hard Rest
Boot Loader mode Start (Bulb + Power + Reset)
It is totally blank screen whatever you do.
When I connected the device to the pc with usb cable, a Red Light is shown for 2 seconds and then goes off and a message comes up on the pc that "USB DEVICE NOT RECOGNIZED".
Then I tried to Remove battery from the device for a whole night and the next day morning i did all the above procedures again to get no results.
Kindly Help me out
Thanks
Dinesh Kumaar

I think you have been bricked your device...

dineshkumaar said:
Hi...
I was trying to Upgrade my O2 XDA Exec Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5 by explode. The process went successfully till 99% and after that it ended up with Error. Then I unplugged my pda from the pc and tried to restart the device. I was surprised that the device did not respond to any of the following
Soft Reset
Hard Rest
Boot Loader mode Start (Bulb + Power + Reset)
It is totally blank screen whatever you do.
When I connected the device to the pc with usb cable, a Red Light is shown for 2 seconds and then goes off and a message comes up on the pc that "USB DEVICE NOT RECOGNIZED".
Then I tried to Remove battery from the device for a whole night and the next day morning i did all the above procedures again to get no results.
Kindly Help me out
Thanks
Dinesh Kumaar
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if it's not recognized, remove the SIM card, the SD card, and on the PC open activesync and disable usb connections. for more info open this link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial

what if the device is bricked
Thanks for your quick reply
Kindly let me know what could be done with the bricked device. Can it be repaired again.
Thanks again
Dinesh Kumaar

dineshkumaar said:
Thanks for your quick reply
Kindly let me know what could be done with the bricked device. Can it be repaired again.
Thanks again
Dinesh Kumaar
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you have to find another rom and try to flash it to your PDA.
ARE YOU RUNNING windows XP on your PC?

Yes ! I have Windows XP SP2 and Active Sync Version 4.5.0 (Build 5096)
Thanks

dineshkumaar said:
Yes ! I have Windows XP SP2 and Active Sync Version 4.5.0 (Build 5096)
Thanks
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have you tried to upgrade another ROM, and if you did, is your PDA now working?

I cannot update my rom as my pc cannot recognize my device. is there any other way to update rom?

dineshkumaar said:
I cannot update my rom as my pc cannot recognize my device. is there any other way to update rom?
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Have you read here?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial
Try to reflash with another ROM
Hope it helped
And don´t forget to vote!

I had already done those steps to get no results.
its my badluck.

If you cannot get into bootloader and you have done the steps above, then you cannot flash to another rom.......it would seem you now have a paperweight im afraid

I am still not able to revive my device. I know that it is just due to corrupt bootloader but don't know how to repair it.
If anybody ever has solution for this... kindly let me know.
Regards

Have you tested mtty?
I would recommend to PM a chef on Universal forum
Good luck,

Mtty is not detecting my device
it says can't open usb port

One More thing I have noted is that when I keep the device connected with the pc, at a certain interval of about 10-15 mintues my device's Led shows RED Light for few seconds and then turns off followed by the the "USB device not recognized" on my pc.
I hope this can be used as a hint towards reviving my device.
Regards

have you followed orbs advise above and pm a chef on that section, they maybe able to help. From my knowledge (limited on that device) i ddont think there is any recovery proceedure that you have not tried. Have u downloaded offical wm5 rom and tried it. I know and appreciate that it will probably not work due to corrupt bootloader, but what else is there to do??
To understand more, what did you do PRIOR to trying to flash to 6.5.
Did you hardspl correctly? Had you already flashed to another rom and just felt like flashing to another new rom?? Give us more detail.

Thanks for your reply
I dont know how to PM Chef.
I had used 3 other Rom versions of WM6.1 on my device. They ran very much fine on my device. But When i found WM6.5 xplode, I wished to try that too. But the rom update procedure went successfully till 99% and after that it showed an error that upgrade was not successfull. I pulled out the device and tried to restart if by all methods but I wasnt able to power on at all.
Thanks
Regards

ok, goto the thread that you got the rom off, click the chefs name and you will get a menu there to send pm, do it, he might have seen a similar problem or know how to correct bootloader.
good luck

noup really no...
Is bricked
my bro has bricked an Universal and the same led turns red no power off no bootloar no power it means the flash chip is dead!
Sorry to heard that.
He waits too long for the upgrade it tooks at least 40 minutes
then ERROR... but you know... the batt was died in middle process ( th batt was ****ed up, it say full charged but no! it was on 60 or 50%) then the stupid thing is make a hardreset.. i told him dont hR your device... justa simple reste and reinit the process... and huh! its bricked.
if you are interested on sell your parts
maybe my bro want some parts.

my advice(similar to other people):
1. Charge your batery somehow (in other device or anything else)
2. put your devce in bootloader mode and connect it to pc - it wll be detected like microsoft usb sync
3. use mtty try difrend versions becuse sometimes 1.42 does not detect it properly - read here for what to do with mtty
IMO this may be battery problem or nand chip problem - in both cases it is hardware fail

Poblem with reverting to original stocks

Hi there, I tired to issue my problem in some other threads, but without any response so far - probably my problem is more specific.
I was using AHEN 6.5-R6i Rom for few weeks when some time after charging my Raphael was not powering up at all. I presume no relation between Ahen rom and the problem (as described further).
I bought new battery and it occurred that probably power charging circuit was damaged, because it newer completed charging, the device was always very hot and discharged in few minutes even when turned off (until completely drained out). What is more the USB connector works only for charging (maybe damaged data connection circuit?).
As a result, before returning the device for guarantee servicing I wanted to downgrade all the roms to the original ones. As advised I started with Radio and OS stocks, but after bootloader update (from SD card, cause my USB doesn't work) I got only "upgrading ROM code error" and the device tries to load some ROM, but putting any on SD card doesn't work anymore.
Any suggestions how to cope with this situation?

If you need help please provide us with important information. So fill your signature first. Mainly if you have hard-spl or if you bought olipro cid unlock and what exactly you have done until now. Also wether your device is CDMA or GSM? If it is GSM than you have to first restore Stock Radio first, after that if you cid-unlocked the phone you have to relock it again. Than remove hard-spl and install stock ROM. But if your USB is broken, i think there is no chance to remove Hard-SPL neither to restore to stock. Remember that when you are in a bootloader and you do not see that the device is connected to activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center it does not mean that it is not connected. Just check you hear the sound indicating that something is connected to usb in vista or windows xp.

If you need help please provide us with important information. So fill your signature first.
=> done
Mainly if you have hard-spl or if you bought olipro cid unlock and what exactly you have done until now.
=> chnged SPL to OliNex, OS to AHEN 6.5-R6i, Radio to version required by AHEN rom
Also wether your device is CDMA or GSM? If it is GSM than you have to first restore Stock Radio first, after that if you cid-unlocked the phone you have to relock it again. Than remove hard-spl and install stock ROM.
=> I retracked the changes as indicated changing both radio and OS to original ones, but had just problem at last step = flashing oryginal SPL (because I made it from SD).
But if your USB is broken, i think there is no chance to remove Hard-SPL neither to restore to stock.
=> Hmm, anyway right now I am stack because bootloader is "loading ..." every time I reboot the device.
Remember that when you are in a bootloader and you do not see that the device is connected to activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center it does not mean that it is not connected. Just check you hear the sound indicating that something is connected to usb in vista or windows xp.
=> I tried to use some terminals to see if I can execute commands directly or see any output, but I haven't even succeeded to open the port. Maybe I am doing something wrong - I give it a try once more tonight.

So what version of SPL is bootloader showing? If it's showing something like 1.90.0000, you are in bootloader and USB circuit is not damaged you should be able to normaly flash ROM from your provider from bootloader. So download the ROM from your T-Mobile it should be some exe. When you see bootloader tricolor screen coonect usb cable from Touch Pro to computer and run the exe soubor with your desired ROM. It should work if everything is OK!
If your device is showing 1.90.OliNex, than i cant help you because i do not know how to remove Hard-SPL from bootloader, maybe it is possible, but for more experienced tech guy, who i am not
PS: Hope you did not bricked your device because Hard-SPL and removing Hard-SPL is all done with cable, you cant do it from SD, and you cant flash original SPL before removing Hard-SPL!

hmm, it seems that I have managed to flash, at least partly, the original SPL from SD card, cause it shows version 1.90.0000. Partly, because it states that the previalus rom update was not successful :-(
In this state (in boot loader mode) I can't even charge battery so I have to do it externaly. Connecting to PC doesn't work (PC USB and cable are fine). The only thing that change after connecting to USB charger is that device gets hot ...

i am sorry to say, that you probably bricked your device... Maybe someone could help with more advanced hardware, software support, but i am not the right person...You can try to put your device to service and hope they will not recognize what have you done, but it depends on your stock SPL version. I got czech T-Mobile and stock SPL was 1.69.0000, so maybe yours was the same...
Next time please read more carefully, search or ask someone if you are not still sure, things about flashing SPLs are very dangerous if they are not done carefully...
Can anyone help this guy? He tried to flash original SPL over Hard-SPL, and therefore it is not looking very well for him to unbrick his Touch Pro...

So ... I got it from the service and they changed the motherboard and the battery, no charges
It was brickes, because of cherging circuit issue.
Unfortunatley I send it back to service, because the loudspeaker is not working ...

Actually I am the same exact boat as the OP. My phone stopped charging and its because the USB port is broken. I need to change the phone back to stock but if its not charging its probably not going to get a connection to the computer either. I read that on at least the Hermes it was possible to flash from the SD card. This is not possible for the TP? Thanks

riotburn said:
Actually I am the same exact boat as the OP. My phone stopped charging and its because the USB port is broken. I need to change the phone back to stock but if its not charging its probably not going to get a connection to the computer either. I read that on at least the Hermes it was possible to flash from the SD card. This is not possible for the TP? Thanks
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You can flash the ROM, radio, splash screens etc etc from SD card - you will then have to send the phone back with hard spl still installed as you need a usb connection to remove it.
Dont assume you cant get a usb data conenction though - try it and see!

I did try the connection, didn't work. How do you flash from the sdcard? I just dont want to brick it.

Please read this thread on how to flash (including how to flash from SD card).
Again, (assuming you have the correct hard SPL currently flashed) you can flash a ROM, radio & splash screens etc to your phone from the SD card (one at a time) but as previously said you need a USB connection to flash hard spl (dont attempt it from the sd card).

So, my Raphael arrived from service after the second repair (loudspeaker not working) - it seems all works this time
By the way, that is correct that a USB connection is necessary to flash hard spl, but .. I was desperate because the USB was broken, so I tried it from SD. The effect was good enough for the service - the Hard-SPL seemed to be reverted to oryginal one, however the booting was stacked at loading the ROM