Ok, so with WM6 still in its "testing" phase and a few bugs that just wont seem to go away, I am being promoted at work and it will require me to use my phone as a tool for the job. ie direct push and all. Should i go back to my carriers WM5 release or Stick with WM6 in hopes that they will fix the rumored direct push issues?
i never got a direct pus problem on wm6... I use my mobile for work and i am using mb edition. I think is quite ok... on Faria`s i got some problems with gprs switching on and off all the time.... strange....
I've never used direct push. how do I go about setting it up. I can put together an exchange box if needed
nottoosmart said:
Ok, so with WM6 still in its "testing" phase and a few bugs that just wont seem to go away, I am being promoted at work and it will require me to use my phone as a tool for the job. ie direct push and all. Should i go back to my carriers WM5 release or Stick with WM6 in hopes that they will fix the rumored direct push issues?
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I have experimented with all the WM6 releases, and have not encountered any issues at all with push mail and my Exchange 2003 Server. Within a couple of seconds of a new e-mail reaching my desktop, it hits my phone.
I also have my POP3 account check for messages at 1 hour intervals. No probs there either.
I was one of the unlucky ones who did have a problem with push email on Farias WM6 ROM. It would sync the first time the phone was switched on, but then some time later would randomly stop working even though the GPRS connection was still up and Activesync said it was 'Connected' - only a manual resync would get it going again.
I tried multiple radio ROMS, 2.19, 2.25, 2.47 and 2.61 (hoping it was a radio ROM problem) but to no avail. Interestingly, I never had this particular problem with the MB WM6 rom - but that ROM had other issues, so in the end (as always) I've dropped back to Farias 3.3 ROM which is rock solid in every area.
Don't get me wrong those of you who take offence easily - Farias ROMS are great and I'm not knocking him any way - it's just "one of those things" that's probably quirky to my setup. If when he produces a new version, I'll test again.
Andrew
Most odd. Like bradsnw I've never had a direct push problem. This includes the more than 50 individual devices I've setup in the past, the 10 or so that I upgrade on a regular basis and mine. As Faria's tester and Junior Chef in Training my poor lil 8125 has seen just about every ROM variant (and mutant) imaginable, but never a DP problem. (And I've created some near bricking ROM's let me tell you!)
One thing I always do however is to not create my initial AS profile with my PC but on my device directly. (This is the only way I can get my task OTA) and I probably hard reset my device on the shoulder of Interstate 95 or a McDonalds parking lot as many times as I do at home.
I've never had an issue with Direct Push/Exchange 2003 while using WM6 either.
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Most odd. Like bradsnw I've never had a direct push problem. This includes the more than 50 individual devices I've setup in the past, the 10 or so that I upgrade on a regular basis and mine. As Faria's tester and Junior Chef in Training my poor lil 8125 has seen just about every ROM variant (and mutant) imaginable, but never a DP problem. (And I've created some near bricking ROM's let me tell you!)
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I agree - very odd. I've never had push fail before on the multitude of ROMS I've tried - those sort of problems always happened 'to other people' and not me ;^)
I tried all the usual stuff, resets, new partnerships, reloading the same ROM, new radio ROMS, certificates, etc etc etc. But in the end, I had to get the phone working 'for work', so went back to 3.3. Like I said, when Farias next ROM comes out, I'll try it again.
cheers,
Andrew
achick said:
I was one of the unlucky ones who did have a problem with push email on Farias WM6 ROM. It would sync the first time the phone was switched on, but then some time later would randomly stop working even though the GPRS connection was still up and Activesync said it was 'Connected' - only a manual resync would get it going again.
I tried multiple radio ROMS, 2.19, 2.25, 2.47 and 2.61 (hoping it was a radio ROM problem) but to no avail. Interestingly, I never had this particular problem with the MB WM6 rom - but that ROM had other issues, so in the end (as always) I've dropped back to Farias 3.3 ROM which is rock solid in every area.
Don't get me wrong those of you who take offence easily - Farias ROMS are great and I'm not knocking him any way - it's just "one of those things" that's probably quirky to my setup. If when he produces a new version, I'll test again.
Andrew
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There's nothing wrong with your push email.
Connected is good, it means that you have a connection with the server and you're up to date. This is how it shows in WM6
When you see "Synchronized Today" with a time, this means that was the last time your device updated with the server for whatever [email protected] tihs point, if you have signal....do a manual sync.
Again...CONNECTED...is good ......... SYNCHRONIZED TODAY...is ok
If your device doesnt synchronize folders at all ....you need to adjust your network connections and get the web to work 1st and then push email.
This isn't faria specific, that's how WM6 works.
nottoosmart said:
I've never used direct push. how do I go about setting it up. I can put together an exchange box if needed
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You need an exchange account.
I use www.4smartphone.com. It's a paid service that's cheap and I let them deal with the headaches of maintaining a server. The service has been 100% so far, not to try to sell you.
If you have the means and time to set up a box, let me know and I'll help as much as I can.
No problem at all with DP mail. I just give it to the people at IT and they set it up nicely for me. And I have taken it in daily because I keep changing roms!
But I am stopping at Faria's for now
dwny said:
There's nothing wrong with your push email.
Connected is good, it means that you have a connection with the server and you're up to date. This is how it shows in WM6
When you see "Synchronized Today" with a time, this means that was the last time your device updated with the server for whatever [email protected] tihs point, if you have signal....do a manual sync.
Again...CONNECTED...is good ......... SYNCHRONIZED TODAY...is ok
If your device doesnt synchronize folders at all ....you need to adjust your network connections and get the web to work 1st and then push email.
This isn't faria specific, that's how WM6 works.
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dwny, I appreciate your reply, but I beg to differ. I've been using push mail for a long time now, and I know when it's working or not - I'm not going to bore everybody with pointless detail, but:
I had a working internet connection via GPRS - I could surf using Pocket IE.
It would "automatically" sync my folders via GPRS when I turned the phone on. It would then stop working later.
Manually syncing is not push email? I had set the schedule settings to 'as items arrive' - why would I sync manually?
And as I said previously, I did not get the problem with the MB WM6 rom, nor the PDAviet 3 or 4 and I do not get the problem with Farias 3.3. Mail arrives automatically via GPRS (usually a a few seconds before it hits my desktop outlook) just fine in every ROM I've tried except Faria's latest. But I'll repeat - I'm not in any way 'blaming' Faria. It's just one of those things.
Andrew
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dwny, I appreciate your reply, but I beg to differ. I've been using push mail for a long time now, and I know when it's working or not - I'm not going to bore everybody with pointless detail, but:
I had a working internet connection via GPRS - I could surf using Pocket IE.
It would "automatically" sync my folders via GPRS when I turned the phone on. It would then stop working later.
Manually syncing is not push email? I had set the schedule settings to 'as items arrive' - why would I sync manually?
And as I said previously, I did not get the problem with the MB WM6 rom, nor the PDAviet 3 or 4 and I do not get the problem with Farias 3.3. Mail arrives automatically via GPRS (usually a a few seconds before it hits my desktop outlook) just fine in every ROM I've tried except Faria's latest. But I'll repeat - I'm not in any way 'blaming' Faria. It's just one of those things.
Andrew
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Again...this is how it works in WM6
When your device says "Connected" ... you are up to date.
While there..press Menu > Status and it will tell you when your device last synchronized.
WM5 shows "last synchronized" when up to date
WM6 shows "last synchronized" when not up to date.
What I experienced:
When I get "last synchronized" ... I also don't have internet and everything was working. I go to connections and change the name of the connection and all is well. Try this & see if it works for you.....
dwny, you ARE persistant!
"Again...this is how it works in WM6"
But it *wasn't* working!
I could tell it was not sychronizing because I would get 25 emails arriving in my Outlook inbox over period of an hour, and none of them arrived on my PDA! If I simply manually synced, they would all coming flooding in.
But let's not dwell on this anymore - I'm back on 3.3 now. If I find some time, I'll do a fresh download of the ROM and try again.
thanks for you time,
Andrew
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First, you get too damn much email. 25/hour? What are you, the president?
Seriously though, something has to be running to be able to get those push notifications. With all the tweaking people do I'm not surprised that things end up breaking. My suggestions are these:
1) Turn off X Button or whatever you are currently using to close rather than hide applications. WM5 and 6 were never designed for the apps to be closed every time. Many have background features that they depend on -- like poutlook. Why do you think it's in your \windows\startup folder.
2) It is *still* in your \windows\startup folder right?
Those are your hints -- all I know is that push worked fine for me as long as I left something there to push to.
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First, you get too damn much email. 25/hour? What are you, the president?
Seriously though, something has to be running to be able to get those push notifications. With all the tweaking people do I'm not surprised that things end up breaking. My suggestions are these:
1) Turn off X Button or whatever you are currently using to close rather than hide applications. WM5 and 6 were never designed for the apps to be closed every time. Many have background features that they depend on -- like poutlook. Why do you think it's in your \windows\startup folder.
2) It is *still* in your \windows\startup folder right?
Those are your hints -- all I know is that push worked fine for me as long as I left something there to push to.
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President? - lol... I wish...
I get automated warnings and messages from databases and servers. And when things aren't running well, I get LOTS of emails.
Yep, poutlook was in my startup....
Anyway, after seeing all these success stories, I downloaded the ROM again (didn't trust the last download) and reflashed. Followed exactly the same procedure as normal (I flash ROMS regularly, so literally have my set routine) and guess what?
Works fine - 'straight out of the box'. I did nothing different to every other flash I've ever done....
Andrew
P.S. I now have an 'officially recognised' issue with the 2.61 radio ROM. But at least I'm back in the fold...
i am running the mun rom on tmobile usa and have no problems with exhange mail...push is working 100%
FYI - i am using the 2.61.11 radio rom
achick said:
President? - lol... I wish...
I get automated warnings and messages from databases and servers. And when things aren't running well, I get LOTS of emails.
Yep, poutlook was in my startup....
Anyway, after seeing all these success stories, I downloaded the ROM again (didn't trust the last download) and reflashed. Followed exactly the same procedure as normal (I flash ROMS regularly, so literally have my set routine) and guess what?
Works fine - 'straight out of the box'. I did nothing different to every other flash I've ever done....
Andrew
P.S. I now have an 'officially recognised' issue with the 2.61 radio ROM. But at least I'm back in the fold...
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Glad to see a fresh install worked for you.
Be careful with radio 2.61.11, it's known to cause dialpad issues and missed calls with the newer roms.
I had my Qtek 9100 for more then a year now and was running WM5 for better part of that. I never had a missed alarm. I upgraded to several version of WM6 (latest is Faria's one) and each of those had an issue that alarm will not go off at designated time.
Is it my phone? SPL/IPL? Radio? OS? or what can be causing that?
I had the same issue. Between that and missing numerous amounts of phone calls, text messages, and voice mail notifications I went back to WM5. Hope you get it resolved.
Another issue I'm having is that sometimes after receiving phone call I still get blinking "orange" light like I missed a call.
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I had the same issue. Between that and missing numerous amounts of phone calls, text messages, and voice mail notifications I went back to WM5. Hope you get it resolved.
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When you got back to WM5 did you downgrade Radio and SPL or just changed OS back and everything started working again?
Same here
Same problem here,
I've updated to Faria's latest kitchen rom and since 2 days, I'm late to work! The alarm doesn't go off!
I'm using SPB Time. Will now try ptravelalarm.
Emre
I went back to WM5 and can not be happier. All this WM6 crazyness is not worth severe glitches all over the place for me.
When I went back to WM5 I just reloaded my carrier rom. I haven't even tweaked it since I last reloaded it.
I am waiting on a WWE AKU 3.3 release. Hopefully HTC will release one for cingular like they just updated the 8525 Rom.
Answers of problems with different roms
I've tried all the WM6 ROM's that were build and would like to give all of you some of my feedback.
I think the problems and solutions are depending of wich brand, phone edition, country and provider you are using. For example the MDA –pro from T-Mobile has different hardware than the qtek 9000 that I'm using now. So this might explain why some testers have problems with their phone while others don't.
This is why it sometimes is difficult to locate the problem. I mean how often do you see that people are saying "I have this and that problem" while many others are saying "Nope, works fine with me"... At the moment I have and old MDA-pro from T-Mobile and a brand new Qtek 9000. After installing Ivan's wm6 on the T-Mobile and on the Qtek, i noticed that the T-Mobile phone started out with nothing but problems. After installation and soft-reset I had the following results.
T-Mobile
1. It freezed after 1rst soft-reset after installation.
2. 3G connection dropped.
3. Reconnect to internet very difficult
4. Phone on, signal on but call don’t come trough?
5. Works better with radio 1.09
6. Bleutooth sucks with headsets and internet sharing
7. Often have problems with the windows media player
8. Synchronising takes ages (using Vista Ultimate)
Qtek 9000
1 No problems
2 3G on for 3 days now
3 Reconnection better but still not perfect.
4 Don’t have this problem
5 Same here, but as said can be provider
6 Lose my paired device (parrot CK3100)
mostly after a day or 2 quite irritating.
7 No problems until I use the hibernate
when installed not correct.
8 Synchronising works o.k. (using Vista Ultimate)
I can’t make complete list of all the bugs, but I just wanted to give you an example of the differences between these two phones.
The Rom from Ivan and Midget are one of the best at the moment.
Still I have some problems with their latest built (V3) and these bugs are based on my latest HTC Universal.
- As mentioned I lose my paired carkit device
- After changing settings (don’t know wich settings trigger this but..) you can’t create or edit a new email account. I haven’t install any programs, just synchronized with my laptop (OS Vista Ultimate)
Right now i am running the .1933 tnt build by it's right. When I was using wm5 I could always easily connect to my college's wifi service and it did so automatically. Now with wm6 the wifi network does not even show up as available and does not connect even when i try to force it to. Everything else works great but this minor problem is making me want to switch back to wm5, any idea whats wrong?
Hi
I have the same Rom and the same Problem, no Wifi reconnect.
It has been stated by the cook 'its Right' at the first page of TNT.1933 that "
- Some of roms have the issue with cannot open the wifi from the first time"
maybe by reflashing or flashing the other versions of TNT .1933 solve this problem,no harm in trying.
it seems to be a problem with every wm6 rom i have used. I can connect fine to my apartments router but other places i could normally connect to very easily with wm5, i now cannot with wm6. Anyone else have this problem?
edit: this is not a problem with it connecting directly, it will not even connect manually or even show that a certain wireless network is in range even though i know that it is. I have reflashed to the same result
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Right now i am running the .1933 tnt build by it's right. When I was using wm5 I could always easily connect to my college's wifi service and it did so automatically. Now with wm6 the wifi network does not even show up as available and does not connect even when i try to force it to. Everything else works great but this minor problem is making me want to switch back to wm5, any idea whats wrong?
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Use the .318 build (Jaguar, XM6, Loon kitchen). Thats the only build that does not have this problem in WM6, all the other builds have the problem.
WiFi problems w/1933
I think I've had exactly the same problems w/several TNT versions after TNT4 which worked OK. Also similar problems with
I have NOT had a problem w/WiFi using NBD 9.2 which has worked for several weeks now w/o hitch! NBD 9.2 is (relative to 1933) thin on applications so U have to track down the cabs and load. That is why I tried 1933 recently. No wifi so I went back to 9.2.
Good luck,
Jim
Cingular 8125 G3
NBD 9.2
SIM and CID unlocked
Radio 2.69.11 w/fix
I just met this for the very first time. Then it worked normaly. TNT5.0
Hi everyone, this year in Australia we have had changes of DST dates. A week ago mobile updated itself on the wrong date so I installed the Microsoft fix for this. Today is the correct date for DST changeover and while installing the fix corrected the earlier problem, today my phone clock has not updated itself (whereas my Windows XP desktop has). I am wondering if any other Aussies have had this problem?
My XDA IIs updated last week...but kept reverting back when I sync'd with Vista...
All fixed now though!
I just went into the control panel and changed the timezone away from Sydney and back to Sydney and now the time has corrected itself. It may be an issue with my pre-final 6.1 rom as I have had other problems with control panels not working correctly before. No worries all!
the_scotsman said:
My XDA IIs updated last week...but kept reverting back when I sync'd with Vista...
All fixed now though!
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I had this issue too, except when syncing with XP the clock on the phone would change back to the wrong time (after I'd set it to the correct time manually). Installing the fix found at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx fixes the problem though. If you haven't installed it I would recommend it if you rely on your phone's clock (as I do)...