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I know many of you may think this is based on opinion, but personally I'm new at the scene and just tried Faria's WWE WM6 ROM (the real thing) featured at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762 .
My original reason for installing was cause my 8125's OS started lagging lately for some reason (it would take a few seconds for menus and items to show up instead of being instant). In addition, battery life was HORRIBLE (would die in around 2 days). So I went and downloaded Faria's WWE WM6 ROM (the real thing). Installation was easy, the ROM worked great, my battery life greatly improved (even though I overclocked to 247 with cpuscaling at 143).
Unfortunately, I messed around too much and accidentally killed my phone application , not to mention the OS has started to lag (probably because I installed too many things?).
Either way, I'm looking to download a new ROM. I want something that has all the features of Faria's HTC Wizard Rom (the real thing), and more. I don't care too much about extra space, because frankly I don't need it. I just want something that's fast and feature-packed (and includes everything from Faria's ROM). Any tips or suggestions? Help would really be appreciated, as I've just gone through 3 ROMS that I didn't like. Thanks.
try explore rom it prob more of the lines your looking for
Try this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299821&highlight=Faria
I have tried many different ROM's, I keep going back to this one. It's the most stable for me.
Core 2.0n
For me, the best WM6 rom is the Core 2.0n (based on XPlore 1.0)
Thephone is very fast (boot in 35 seconds), no bugs, working well with TomTom6.
I'm only waiting a full French WM6 rom
for months of WM6.0 use; Faria is the best for stable.
im testing Pandora 1.05 right now.
From all of the ROMs that I have used. I think Faria is the best one. it's very stable.
pfff i think its best for me:
base version of Pandora:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307080
and core 2.0 of coz.
Faria's overloaded imo.
i like reloaded
Faria The Real Thing is most stable for me
soft reset everyday, to remove the slow down due to any memory leaks
and I'm gonna buck the trend here, wm6 is SLOW. use a 2.26 if you want a quick one
two day battery life sounds good some people think one day is good others, several days (but it depends how much you use it).
bbobeckyj said:
soft reset everyday, to remove the slow down due to any memory leaks
and I'm gonna buck the trend here, wm6 is SLOW. use a 2.26 if you want a quick one
two day battery life sounds good some people think one day is good others, several days (but it depends how much you use it).
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yawn.zzz nap attack.
nothin said:
yawn.zzz nap attack.
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you big meanie
goofeyass said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299821&highlight=Faria
I have tried many different ROM's, I keep going back to this one. It's the most stable for me.
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I am completely of agreement with you.
From all of the ROMs that I have used. I think Faria "The Real Thing" is the best one. And Xplore 1.1, too.
pdaviet rom
pdaviet by phamquang for me
5.2.1413 fast
Hi,
i have been using Xplore 2.0n and it is great.
Its near Full Vanilla, but it supports AD2P and most of the basics.
The new 5.2.1413 build is FAAASSTTT, and there are FULL VANILLA releases, nevertheless, i was unable to set AD2P.
If there is a fix for ad2p, i will surely switch to 5.2.1413 because it is way way faster than Xplore 2.0n
Draegloth said:
I used Core 2.0 and that was the best of all, so I flesh it again
http://world5.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=59040023 where...
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****...am i turning into a vampire now ? ROTFL
I agree. i have been on this fourum reading for a while now. I recently desided to become a member.
For the prize core 2 definatly gets my vote. it has been the most stable. doesn't require soft or hard resets.
i belive by far the best yet....
I know you chefs are always on the grind trying to make better.
Appreciated :}
I have a quick question...
Which one is newer/better?
Faria's WWE WM6 Rom ?
Or Faria's HTC Wizard Final ROM with Pro Kitchen?
shadezero said:
I have a quick question...
Which one is newer/better?
Faria's WWE WM6 Rom ?
Or Faria's HTC Wizard Final ROM with Pro Kitchen?
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The ROM Kitchen is the newer version of Faria's rom, and its vanilla, but you can add stuff into it. My Crossbow Reloaded (link below) is a cooked version of this rom with stuff added to it and a few fixes I put into it.
It looks like we've reached our limits with our Wizards when it comes to custom roms... Since the roms are limited to pretty much freeware only there is only so much that can be done to a rom before it is released and it doesn't look to me like there is a whole lot more that can be done...
I have looked at and tested 3 different roms in the last 3 days:
TNT5.0
BlackDiamond 2.0
octaivoi's wizard 4.8
Except for small, minor, subtle differences that aren't really noticible unless you're looking for them like settings and tweaks and what not, these 3 roms are almost exactly the same performance, appearance, and software wise...
Does anybody else see this?
AGREED for sure, once all the bugs and problems are sorted out there really isnt much to go for...until windows mobile 7.0 comes out...
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AGREED for sure, once all the bugs and problems are sorted out there really isnt much to go for...until windows mobile 7.0 comes out...
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Haha I hear that. I hope it comes out sooner than later but I'm not so sure it could really be that much different than WM5 or WM6 since WM6 wasn't really that different from WM5 anyway other than software updates and a few new settings...
I think that WM7 should be ground breaking... Totally different from anything already out there. If WM7 is nothing more than WM6 with minor software updates, then I will be very dissapointed... They need to do something totally out there and innovative, like a new interface and different setup. The only real problem is WM6 was made at relatively the same time as WM5 so once base roms were leaked, people all over started building their own versions of it.
Since WM7 is still a year away from being released, it might be hard to find a WM7 base rom that is compatible with the Wizard and operate on the limited system specs of the Wizard...
Thats just my opinion.
"Since WM7 is still a year away from being released, it might be hard to find a WM7 base rom that is compatible with the Wizard and operate on the limited system specs of the Wizard... "
so there is a wm7...hmmm... knowing ms...it will be tweaks and more vista like...ai ai ai... a better browser..maybe deepfish, see thru windows... but by then the wizard wont be able to use it due to its processor... there will be a ghz processor... they should really drop the whole windows mobile experience altogether imho... do something totally new... our cookers are better tweakers than what ms has... ..
i will try the tnt new one coming out...looks promising with all the issues about missed calls and what not... then just wait for more..i guess..
noob240 said:
"Since WM7 is still a year away from being released, it might be hard to find a WM7 base rom that is compatible with the Wizard and operate on the limited system specs of the Wizard... "
so there is a wm7...hmmm... knowing ms...it will be tweaks and more vista like...ai ai ai... a better browser..maybe deepfish, see thru windows... but by then the wizard wont be able to use it due to its processor... there will be a ghz processor... they should really drop the whole windows mobile experience altogether imho... do something totally new... our cookers are better tweakers than what ms has... ..
i will try the tnt new one coming out...looks promising with all the issues about missed calls and what not... then just wait for more..i guess..
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Yes the new WM7 is actually Windows Mobile Photon based on Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional and is supposedly supposed to work on all devices according to a leak from MS but I doubt it...
If you want to try TNT5.0, you should give this version a try. It's my personally modified version to have custom splash screens and 2.19 radio plus a 12mb page pool. http://www.filefactory.com/file/ee7e74/
Consider this
Before Touch Flow arrived, some people had the same thoughts as you, "have we reached the limit". Then Touch Flow arrived and we had a large burst of new stuff for the wizard.
You say: Ok, Calouro, what's your point, I don't even like Touch Flow.
Well, it doesn’t really matter if you like touch flow or not, the point is, when a new PPC comes out with a new look or new applications, we hare at XDA get excited and we grab them and make it work on a now aging device.
You say: ok, ok, I see your point Calouro, but really, your talking about just looks and applications, how about stability and performance.
Well, I'm glad you asked. You see, WM5 is the last official ROM for the Wizard. The reason you have WM6 running is due to the dedicated and talented people from all over the word, combining knowledge and experience (most of the time with out pay) to make something work on a device that it was not designed to work on.
You say: Ok, your point Calouro
Ok, I'm getting there. You see, when WM6 first came to the Wizard, it was very unstable. Well, that was a while ago, now we have an almost 100% stable, high performance (usually higher then WM5) WM6 ROM. Now, we still a few issues to resolve on WM6 don't get me wrong. However, we are moving forward with each ROM release.
You say: I understand what your saying Calouro, but show me proof
Well, here is the proof, every WM6 ROM had missed call issues since first introduced to the Wizard. A few talented XDA members looked into this and discovered that with a simple reg tweak the issue is fixed on one particular ROM build. So, now we can take that knowledge and try to get the issue fixed on all ROM builds. Furthermore, there is another issue with the vibrate function after you command the device out of vibrate. This appears to be fixed on the latest ROM release here.
You say: Ok, Calouro, so we are fixing bugs. Great, what else?
Well, as we get WM6 100% stable, which by the way, has only just been released to the public on newer devices, we will continue to grab cool applications from other devices to keep our Wizards at the top. I can’t afford to buy a new PPC every time a new one comes out with a new OS.
You say: Great! Anything else Calouro? Are you done yet?
Almost! When WM7 comes out, most people will say it can't be run on a Wizard, others will say the Wizard has reached its limit. I disagree, some very talented XDA member will grab it, dissect it and trim it down. Then put it all back together and make in run on a Wizard.
words of wisdom !
regardless of wm7, i doubt the members of rom flashers anonymous are gonna stop flashing 5 times a day hack it, its just fun. we're always going to look for the best release... there's no end to improvement...
calouro said:
Before Touch Flow arrived, some people had the same thoughts as you, "have we reached the limit". Then Touch Flow arrived and we had a large burst of new stuff for the wizard.
You say: Ok, Calouro, what's your point, I don't even like Touch Flow.
Well, it doesn’t really matter if you like touch flow or not, the point is, when a new PPC comes out with a new look or new applications, we hare at XDA get excited and we grab them and make it work on a now aging device.
You say: ok, ok, I see your point Calouro, but really, your talking about just looks and applications, how about stability and performance.
Well, I'm glad you asked. You see, WM5 is the last official ROM for the Wizard. The reason you have WM6 running is due to the dedicated and talented people from all over the word, combining knowledge and experience (most of the time with out pay) to make something work on a device that it was not designed to work on.
You say: Ok, your point Calouro
Ok, I'm getting there. You see, when WM6 first came to the Wizard, it was very unstable. Well, that was a while ago, now we have an almost 100% stable, high performance (usually higher then WM5) WM6 ROM. Now, we still a few issues to resolve on WM6 don't get me wrong. However, we are moving forward with each ROM release.
You say: I understand what your saying Calouro, but show me proof
Well, here is the proof, every WM6 ROM had missed call issues since first introduced to the Wizard. A few talented XDA members looked into this and discovered that with a simple reg tweak the issue is fixed on one particular ROM build. So, now we can take that knowledge and try to get the issue fixed on all ROM builds. Furthermore, there is another issue with the vibrate function after you command the device out of vibrate. This appears to be fixed on the latest ROM release here.
You say: Ok, Calouro, so we are fixing bugs. Great, what else?
Well, as we get WM6 100% stable, which by the way, has only just been released to the public on newer devices, we will continue to grab cool applications from other devices to keep our Wizards at the top. I can’t afford to buy a new PPC every time a new one comes out with a new OS.
You say: Great! Anything else Calouro? Are you done yet?
Almost! When WM7 comes out, most people will say it can't be run on a Wizard, others will say the Wizard has reached its limit. I disagree, some very talented XDA member will grab it, trim it down and dissect it. Then put it all back together and make in run on a Wizard.
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Lol. Nicely put. Very true too...
I was going to buy a new HTC. then i upgraded to TNO WM6 rom. and its alot faster. And i dont see any significant reason to upgrade to a new phone.
well for expectators like me, i thank the guru's of this site, for a job very well done, and for future jobs as well, and calouro just placed the period on this thread. long live the wizard
i dont about you guys but crossbow was/is fun as hell to chop up & stir fry
WM7 (Photon) will only be a new toy come Christmas 08 (maybe eariler but im betting on Q4 08)
thunda_chunky said:
i dont about you guys but crossbow was/is fun as hell to chop up & stir fry
WM7 (Photon) will only be a new toy come Christmas 08 (maybe eariler but im betting on Q4 08)
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with wm7, i bet it will support html email for exchange 2003! hopefully there will be something to support the smart in smartphone
All True
calouro said:
Before Touch Flow arrived, some people had the same thoughts as you, "have we reached the limit". Then Touch Flow arrived and we had a large burst of new stuff for the wizard.
You say: Ok, Calouro, what's your point, I don't even like Touch Flow.
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Almost! When WM7 comes out, most people will say it can't be run on a Wizard, others will say the Wizard has reached its limit. I disagree, some very talented XDA member will grab it, dissect it and trim it down. Then put it all back together and make in run on a Wizard.
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Wanted to add this.
Not so much just for fun. You call your service provider they will not support the new rom. They will not even offer it at all ( they want your money).
Two of my friend got inspired with what all I can do with my Wizard they bought new ones. The default ROM was too slow that the device was almost useless.
Our modified ROMs atleast help them to use the phone ( ROI). One can by iPhone and let Steve choose what all you can do with that $800 investment.
Dont know if any of you remember but Microsoft is working on those live enabled phones. Trying to establish that Live Anywhere concept theyve been starting up.
Im waiting for WM6.1
Opps, should I have mentioned that?
Yes apparently MS are about to release 6.1 next month.
It is supposed to be a completely new file structre (or so I'm told)
We will see
I will buy a new one two, the speed of Wizzard is somewhat intolerable
for me, it didn't reach the limits.
wizards
ellow
my first phone was a wizard , after that an universal and an elf but i bought a wizard once again because it is the most updated and popular device to hack here on xda, i dont do this to get a better device but it is my hobby.
everytime there is a minor little update i will dll and install it
about wm7 :
did anyone noticed that the speed of devices like the wizard did not improve very much (except universal , but came with the price), althoug my wizard boots up a lot faster. I dont think that we cannot run it on a wizard , maybe with a adjusted version of it
i love my wizard and i hope that all the people (dr dot, etc) will keep on upgrading the roms
PS : thnx to all the xda developers
greets
grey
I couldn.t agree with you more. I also do this just to kep busy.I have a Hermes and I use my wizard as my main phone. I going to buy a Kaiser, i just hope it lives up to it's reputation??
Im waiting for WM6.1
I think that is active sync 6.1 as I think it is still in beta.
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
dharvey4651 said:
Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
I have tried all 6.1 rom's DCS, Dutty's, (all versions) in the past two days. Got dropped calls, phone powering out in a call on all of of them, some wouldn't sync etc, basically 6 roms, ALL failures. And yes, I switched 5 radios, still no go. Whatever is in that vodafon rom is useless.
So I went back to Sleuth 6.1, it syncs, and calls don't drop (Both pretty important in a phone PDA wouldn't you say?)
So a simple poll:
this is a good rom yes, however juding all the posts and threads about unwanted threads dont be hurt if u get flammed. post praise in the proper area ie. the thread sleuth started
Hard to choose...
Is very hard to choose... all are very good players....
Sleuth's is my choice, at the moment...
Thank to all of them!!
I say cheers to all cooks. With bugs or without all these guys work hard on the roms and all deserve a pat on the back. And some money in their pocket.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 and 1.58.26.20 and it is the best combination I have used yet. Battery life was extended greatly and I do not have any issues with dropped calls or anything.
Answer to all
Here it is a nut shell.
"TO EACH HIS OWN"
mikeycollins13
yes yes with all my fingers up i agree w you
till now sleuths rom are the best for me
Dont forget schaps!! lol
hello friends.. I think there are a lot of good chefs! But sleuth, dutty and schaps are the best...
Im waiting for a new version of schaps wm6.1 to test...
I've always wondered what others are running. I know that choice of ROM is personal user preference. There's no 'better rom' as it's all subjective. But I've always wondered what others have chosen to go with. I'd like to see this poll expanded to include more Chef's ROMs. Or maybe a Poll on WM6.1 based ROM's and another based on WM6 ROM's.
I'm personally gathering data on all the popular WM6.1 ROM's and putting the 'installed applications' in a list, a side by side Excel spreadsheet comparing the difference software and their versions that each Cook has chosen to use. This way I get a 'birds eye view' a simple comparison table, showing me which ROM has what and what versions. I'm also taking note on the base they chose. I to don't like the Vodaphone base, I've tried L26's ROM and Dutty's ROM, both are solid, but I could tell that the base was a cause of a lot of my issues (both Vodaphone based). Sleuths 3.02 base rocks, although not the latest WM6.1 build, it's solid and quick.
I think I may end up throwing in the towel and learning how to cook myself. There's bits and pieces out of each ROM I like and dislike, I'd love to combine them all into a personal ROM that's perfect for my needs, everything I like, nothing I don't. Anyways,if anybodys interested in my Excel comparison or the things I like and dislike about each ROM, just PM me. If anybody knows of a list already, PLEASE IM me so I don't waste 2 hours comparing and making notes
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
Same here
I have experienced the same mate. I have tried God knows how many 6.1s and besides, they are looking great and neat (thanks to our brilliant chefs here), i didn't see any improvement on my tilt, just opposite. I have experienced annoying non responsive display, very slow response time, and there was a time when I had to press display several times before I was able to run anything on the phone... let alone the GPS.
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11 and I have to say that my Tilt has never been faster and more stabile. Moreover, GPS signal is much better and even works when I put kaiser near the window. It is cloudy and rainy here in Bosnia now, yet it took only 15sec before it received signal.
So, I have to say that this one works better for me.
Lately I too have had more issues that I wish to have. Just seems there is no perfect, or even close mix of ROM/Software that is good enough to be a daily use type. Not sure if the chefs are just over-doing or we just have a bad mix of software at this time. I do hope the chefs continue to work on a better ROM, I do know they try hard and should be commended for their efforts, but right now I may move back to an older version that just worked better. Maybe 6.0, but not quite sure yet.
This is nothing new..many have reverted back to 6.0. But for what its worth, I never have to wait longer than 45 seconds in the U.S. using the emo radio inside my car rain or shine.
After receiving a warranty replacement for my Kaiser, I'm now using the stock T-mobile UK rom, and it's far better than any WM6.1 cooked rom + radio that I've tried when it comes to GPS.
However, the battery life is probably not quite as good. The unit is just as fast as with any of the cooked roms I've tried.
I can't really think of any tangible benefits from using cooked roms, as this stock WM6 rom works well, and I can add any functionality I need by installing the right programs.
I use PointUI, so I would not benefit from the significant improvements to the WM gui that the cooks have produced.
However, I enjoy trying out new roms and seeing what the cooks come up with, so I may still do it anyway, just for the fun of it!
you are absolutely right and now i am going to downgrade to 6.0
GPS is nice to have on my phone but if I truly needed GPS I would have bought a truly more reliable (read: GPS Specific) device.
If I need directions I can still use Google Maps to plot the turns, on my own - like in the old days. *snicker*
TasoM said:
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11
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BTW: What version of HardSPL are you using?
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Sorry, duh, I guess we aren't talking about the development of ROMS, eh?
why
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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... perhaps because it considers WM6.1 ROM development in the context of the WM6 platform for the Kaiser.
@tabashir --> Threaded SMS use PocketCM. I would be interested in a free replacement to the WM6.1 threaded SMS but http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php does not contain any details of this. Can you throw some light on this. Thx
[Edit - OK found threaded SMS using pocket CM thanks - will check it out thanks]
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
How's the video playback and game/ui performance on the stock 6.0?
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on, another one is that when some major changes come in 6.1 i will not have major issues with upgrading my apps mms/sms etc... to the new ROM and not have to worry about radio's and hardspl as i would be already running it..
besides you guys forget, your running windows... i always reboot my phone and a good reason is because i change batteries so every 1-3days it will be rebooted, it mixes most of the small issues.
As far as GPS its always been the same, i havent ever bothered with GPS to be there for me, its just to aid me, i do use google maps which helps i never have used GPS to tell me were to drive i think that is insane, nor will i ever do it, i like to know exactly were to go and what my options are
tabashir said:
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
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Try the newer rom(s) with manilla 2D (hyperdragon III is currently the only one publicly available). Newer is better.
I too switched to 6.0
tabashir said:
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
To be honest, 6.0 is much stable and less problematic so far compare to 6.1.
Most of the 6.1 problems (e.g. cleartype landscape) have some workaround solutions. But problem like the famous Activesync 86000107 still doesn't have any solution yet.
For me, the only advantage of 6.1 is much faster startup time, and overall system performance.
drutort said:
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on
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The 2D drivers could be a real benefit, but there's no advantage for me or most people having the 3D drivers installed at the moment.
I'll probably give Hyperdragon with TouchFlo 2D a go, but I would not be suprised if I end up sticking pointUI on it and have the exact same functionality and aesthetics as the stock rom. I hope I'm wrong!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
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I am done with problem 86000107, I want to go back to WM 6.0, Where did you find the official WM 6.0 ROM World wide English, and did you need to install a HardSPL or not ????
Thanks
Danny K.
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Now we're talking little bout religion here, LoL.
There was times at beginning of WM6.1 issuance that with so many problems came with it i sometimes convert back to stock HTC WM6, or Schaps 4.30 (most good looking and well done cooked WM6 i tried). I remember it was only before July i keep converting back. Yett most of the time i did it only to get the feeling of what's right before and try to 'port' (find solution) the great feelings to the newer WM6.1.
Nowadays, WM6.1 already much familiarized by the chefs here and gained much tweaks. On a proper hand, it does make big difference in performance. My Kaiser is now running full fledged without any issues, it even have landscape cleartype enabled now for my liking (yet i don't do threaded sms). Faster, more stable, less power hungry, quicker gps fix, more instant screen rotation, than before.
Wow, what happened? It's because the wonder of this community, that's why. AFAIK, i have used several PDA and the conclusion is still the same: left to itself, Microsoft's (MS) product does sux big time. Without this community it will dragging its own feet to its graveyard. I think HTC at least a bit better than MS in adapting to market's demand (i truly belief many HTC engineers are member of this forum, much more than MS's). Cuz I saw some pattern in behaviour here.
Bottomline, WM6.1 is indeed much more problematic than WM6. Yet WM6 was also much more problematic than WM5, or 2003SE!
That's the way MS works, man, everytime they issue newer OS they try to include more functionalities, features, etc, while at the same time introducing more bugs than before. For example, who use windows vista here, care to share your experience with it? Cuz I don't. I even use winXP only after SP2 issued.
Never trust Micro$oft product! Just trust the power of users and communities who expanding it! Now my religion is not WM6.1, but rather, XDA-Devs. So in case next time XDA-Devs decided they have enough with WM,then i may join the convert to Android. Amen.