Xda Zinc Delay!!! - General Topics

O2 are so bad at doing this. They always seem to push the phones back. Every XDA I have wanted seems to keep on getting pushed back.
I have a friend who works for O2 and he said he went into a meeting last week and was told they needed a new software revision for the phone before it was launched, and this usually takes a month.
If I call up O2 though they still say March 26th, but he (my friend) says that i should take a bet on it with them because he is sure it won’t.
Does anyone know any differently?

i would like to know the same. the zinc has disapeared from the 'Coming Soon' section on the O2 site.

churchwa said:
If I call up O2 though they still say March 26th, but he (my friend) says that i should take a bet on it with them because he is sure it won’t.
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Well 26th March has just gone and no sign of it yet. I hope you made a large bet!
Anyone got any updates on availability?

ill look on the internal Excel spread of phone we are due soon when im next in, as a rule of thumb I always tell people, this is when it is supposed to be arriving and show them the sheet, then say, push that date back by about 2-3 weeks and it should be with us by then.
reading on another thread in here, it seems people are being told they have dropped the zinc and are going to replace it with the Trion (HTC Hermes) due the 16th of April !?!?

http://blogs.conchango.com/kenibarw...re_2E002E002E00_-o2-Trion-is-alive_2100_.aspx
Yep looks the trion is on its way, no more zinc.

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MDA Vario II / HTC Hermes / TyTN

Does anybody know a release date for this yet? Some sites that ive been looking on say that its going to be in May other say as late as November
Re: MDA Vario II / HTC Hermes
jaso2005 said:
Does anybody know a release date for this yet? Some sites that ive been looking on say that its going to be in May other say as late as November
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Q3 2006 I've heard, Autumn on other sites, Summer on others.... it's a Pain in the Ass.
I'm hoping for June.
Just, coz.
it best hurry up! its so annoying though because its been released in germany so what are they waiting for?!
jaso2005 said:
it best hurry up! its so annoying though because its been released in germany so what are they waiting for?!
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Its actually released there??
apparently so yeh, i rang T-Mobile and they said i dont know a release date for the uk but it has been released in germany so i wouldn't have thought it would be much longer over here.
But then again he could be lying because i have been on the t mobile germany site and its not listed on there anywhere.
i want one to get the flext wnw tariff grrrr
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belfast-biker said:
I'm hoping for June.
Just, coz.
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Ive just got some good news for you buddy.
Ive rang t-mob today and they said that they were told a release time of around the end of may, so within the first few weeks of June it should be here - Words from the lovely lady of T-Mobile Business Customer Support FINALLY
It is NOT released here in Germany yet. (There was only a "beta" device on the CeBit 2006.) In a german pdf of the specs of the device is the release date Q3 2006.
Any ideas on when it'll be released in the SouthEast Asian region?
Re: MDA Vario II / HTC Hermes
jaso2005 said:
Ive rang t-mob today and they said that they were told a release time of around the end of may, so within the first few weeks of June it should be here - Words from the lovely lady of T-Mobile Business Customer Support FINALLY
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I think she just may make me touch myself inappropriately. Damn T-Mobile girl, I love you!!!
EDIT: How the heck did that work, it replied in a different thread??!?!
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belfast-biker said:
I think she just may make me touch myself inappropriately. Damn T-Mobile girl, I love you!!!
EDIT: How the heck did that work, it replied in a different thread??!?!
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LMAO! so in some random thread, you just said you want too touch your self! :lol: :lol: :lol:
EDIT - Ill add you too msn because the forum seems to have come to a stop :roll:
I dont know if this is news, but the T-Mobile website has now taken the MDA Vario off......Maybe because the Vario II is on its way?
EDIT - Just been told its going to be at least October now To say im gutted is an under statement.
Someone in another forum was told late may is planned, but june was likely. this makes no sense. if o2 germny is advertising its prices, why would tmob wait a further half a year?
i know mate, it seems so strange. I just dont know who to believe anymore
if you look on the CPW site under the Vario 1 it lists it as discontinued...
maybe a call to CPW wouldnt go a miss?
Just spoke to t-mobile .. very helpful...
Asked on the release date.. and the reply was...
"ma....... June"
These things are never set in stone - might have to wait for it then - but no official date yet.
Device could already be in shops but first they had to make a branding that makes it realy useless :lol:
Well i dunno what to think lads and lasses, each time i call i get a different answer, and it looks like you guys do too. Ive found T-Mobile Small business number to be the best, and by that i mean they actually know the the vario II exsists! lol.
Ill give them another call now and see what response i get :lol:
EDIT - Answer i got was - Its doesnt exsist :roll: But the business line was closed so i had to ring the personal customers line.
Spoke to o2...
they have no idea whats going on - as usual....
Buzbe said:
Spoke to o2...
they have no idea whats going on - as usual....
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This and the previous post highlight the fact that the front line jobs in these places always seem to be filled with muppets who have no clue about the devices.
It's so sad. I was in O2 sales, and the product knowledge was shockingly bad. How we made sales was beyond me.
They are all real n00bs - the guys in the local stores too - normaly they sell mobile phones, they don't even know what a pocket pc is. For those people, a MDA is only a big phone with a big display and no buttons.

XDA Zinc, anyone had any luck?

Supposed to be out today, but O2 tell me they are not in stock. Has anyone else had any luck?
o2 are always behind the times, partly due to them always making pointless rubbish like o2 active for their phones. however as this forum is for htc devices only, i doubt there will be a forum
"Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names..."
from the xda portal, there used to be a section which said something like this-
"the only things not wrong about the site name/address are the dash and the dot..."
it should really be called something like
www.devices-manfactured-specifically-by-htc-developers.com
says v in this thread
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
benjdc said:
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
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Absolutely - I rang them on Friday and they said they were still all on for the Zinc. However, someone on one of the Universal forums said there were real problems with it.
The imate ultimate looks a better bet. Shame O2 won't have the taste to go for it.
churchwa said:
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
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I looked at your other posts, including why is this forum just htc? and because this is your second thread about the xda zinc, i just thought it would be like asking about a nokia or blackberry release (which generally doesn't happen). That said, I really hope you or someone else gets one because unless o2 make another horribly slow rom, I want one. And this is the only place where people are likely to talk specifically about it, and I/we can find out if it's any good...
I guess that clears it up, or not
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
hdubli said:
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
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Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
apd said:
Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
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REALLY??? I've been hassleing o2 for the trion for ages. Was told its only out in Germany, the UK gets the Zinc. I really hope you're right!!
EDIT: Just called o2 myself. Indeed the Xda ZINC has officially been pulled "We are no longer going to release this phone". Instead we have the Trion (Hermes) out on 16th April, together with the o2 Argon (whatever that is...I've never heard of it and nor had the o2 guy).
Looks like I'll finally get my Hermes (although I really want the HTC Kaiser which has integrated GPS)
The Trion will be out week starting 2nd of April (yeah right, i will believe that when i see it)
And they dont have a clue what the Argon is which i find quite funny. I will ask my friend at O2 what the Argon is when he gets back from holiday.
although im going to have to wait yet another month, i guess its good news. atleast they are going to release something to replace my mini s. we'l wait and see.
I'm led to believe that the Argon is an HTC device with inbuilt GPS - go search the HTC site? Not sure the model.
Strange, as the only one with GPS on their site is already out as the Orbit.
I have heard it is a full sized business device designed to replace the XDA II/IIs. I guess all the firms using them want to upgrade?
I'm wondering if the O2 XDA Argon is actually the long-rumoured Universal replacement, the HTC Omni?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=245564

Justed ordered an Orbit 2 on O2

I've just got off the phone from O2 after ordering my XDA Orbit 2 on their new tariff. I am a little sceptical however. I called them yesterday and they said that the phone was released today, the guy I spoke to was adamant about this. So I called up this morning and spoke to a nice lady. She told me that the screen said the phone was not released until the end of February but thought that was wrong and was sure it was today and went to check with someone.
She came back and told me it was available and the original Orbit was not being sold and all orders would be dispatched as the Orbit 2. I was given a choice of whether I wanted it with or without co-pilot, I went without and was told the cost was £19.99 on an Online 35 18 month contract or free with the Online 45 18 month contract. Still dubious whether I would get the original Orbit, she said she's go and check with a manager and call me back. Got a call back 5 minutes later to confirm it will definitely be the Orbit 2 so I placed my order.
Still wonder which I'll get, anyone else placed an order?
ohh a big mistake.....!!!!
I just got told to call back on Monday.
Apparently Mine's on its way too.
I made sure they said it was the Orbit 2, so should be with me on Monday/Tuesday!
gareh said:
Apparently Mine's on its way too.
I made sure they said it was the Orbit 2, so should be with me on Monday/Tuesday!
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whats the number you people are calling? I was SAID on monday
vijayvasa said:
whats the number you people are calling? I was SAID on monday
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O2 Upgrades... 08706003009 Option2, Option2, Option2.
Ive just been told its out on the 31st February . Seems as though no-one really knows whats going on but thats just ridiculous. at least pick a date that exhists
woohoo!
Just ordered mine (by dialing 202 on my existing o2 phone) - will be delivered by DHL in 1-2 working days (so Monday or Tuesday next week)
I triple checked it was the Orbit 2 (rather than Orbit 1)
Just for info the deal I managed to get was:
Free phone
18 month contract
600 x-network minutes
500 texts
unlimited internet
without the satnav software (not sure how much extra that would have been)
£25/month (is the £35 tariff but went through the retentions team who knocked it down).
this is the best by far... does it mean, we newer gona get it?!
wow
how did you manage that?!
25/month with the new tariff??
sounds amazing
rTyler said:
how did you manage that?!
25/month with the new tariff??
sounds amazing
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Phoned up a few weeks ago asking for a PAC code. They offered me £15 off my current tariff (£35) if I also took the £7.50 data bolt-on taking it to £27.50. I said yes but wanted to wait for the Orbit 2 and he made a note on the system. So when I called again today they offered me the £35 tariff which now includes a free bolt-on. Told them about the previous offer which was still on their system so they offered my £10 off the new tarrif.
Might just have been lucky, but means they are willing/able to go down that much if you push them.
I spoke to Martin Peers ex 70682 in the retentions team initially. Not sure if dropping names and mentioning offers that other people have got helps but it might be worth a try.
just rang to order. there in stock, but the upgrade "shop" isnt working, need to call back later.
I N S T O C K ! ! !
i can confirm; they have it, just push them.
first i been told, it`s coming out on the 31 feb. i was laughing... quick recheck and i got the same tariff as nick666, but 35pm. i am a select customer, but couldn`t get any better
waiting for monday waiting for monday waiting for monday
thanks nick666
Guys!!! Please tell me what you said!!!! I called them 3 times. Here are my experiences;
1. Called upgrades. Not out till end of Feb sorry, can't help.
2. Called new buyers. Out on Monday (this was reconnaissance work to see if they had it). As it happens I want good upgrade offers!
3. Called the retentaion dept and said I wanted to leave. I said the I know for a fact that other people have bought the Orbit 2 and I had been denied. The guy sounded bemused and said, well let me check....end of Feb. I said but it's on your website under the business dept. He said ohhhh yes I'm afraid that's a diff. dept and only available for business users because it's a business phone. He did say they would knock £20 off my existing £30p/m tarriff however! But no phone!!!! How can I blag it? Normally it's 3rd time lucky!
jonboyuk said:
Guys!!! Please tell me what you said!!!! I called them 3 times. Here are my experiences;
1. Called upgrades. Not out till end of Feb sorry, can't help.
2. Called new buyers. Out on Monday (this was reconnaissance work to see if they had it). As it happens I want good upgrade offers!
3. Called the retentaion dept and said I wanted to leave. I said the I know for a fact that other people have bought the Orbit 2 and I had been denied. The guy sounded bemused and said, well let me check....end of Feb. I said but it's on your website under the business dept. He said ohhhh yes I'm afraid that's a diff. dept and only available for business users because it's a business phone. He did say they would knock £20 off my existing £30p/m tarriff however! But no phone!!!! How can I blag it? Normally it's 3rd time lucky!
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Sounds like the message hasn't trickled through to all the departments yet - so sounds like you've just been unlucky!!
When I ordered today, it was through the upgrade number, but because I mentioned that I'd already spoken to the retention team they put me through to them. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the girl I spoke to, but was definitely the retention team. She did take a while when checking if they were available so might not be on the screens yet?
Damn O2, why does it have to be so difficult?! I did speak to the retention team and I was on hold for 3 mins while he went to find out! Should I try again - what if I get the same guy? How embarrasing!!
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ohh a big mistake.....!!!!
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One more member for the petition. Hurray!!!!!!!
I called them back, systems are still down.
She first said they dont have them in stock, end of feb is release date. I told her no, its out today and they do have stock. she said "erm...hold on.....*types*....oh yes its out later today" lololool.
Systems still down though, have to call back again
Sounds like a lot of angst. I think I'll just wait until the 31st of Feb
just called upgrades told it was in stock but i wasn't eligible till 6th so i wanted the cancel that contract and take out a new one, he put me through to sales, was told not in stock till 31st feb, told him i was told by two people(including a manager) it was out today, started shouting at me saying if they had it why would they want stop people from buying it or something, wouldn't let me speak and then the w****r hung up on me . all i said was i was told it was out today, that was the last thing i said. Gonna ring upgrades back on the 6th because so far all the representatives there have been excellent. was offered £35pm, 400mins, 1000txts, 12 Month Contract and the phone for £39.99 and that was without haggling.

O2 XDA Serra - Released!

The wait is finally over:
O2 Shop
My-XDA
I say the wait is over, what I actually mean is that as a result of O2's 3 separate systems, you either need to (pretend to) be a business customer or be a new customer. Either way it's out, you just need to be lucky to speak to the 'right' advisor .
Post away any deals you receive.
ps. The phone was in fact released on the 6th of this month as originally forecast, they simply chose not to make it available .
Must be soon
I am an O2 exec customer (fool - big bills) and I got a call from O2 couple of weeks ago confirming that it was coming out on the 3rd of November and offered to send me one as soon as it was available. I still have not received it but will keep you posted. It must be soon now
i just called the customer service and the lovely lady said it will be released some time next week. The other lady told me it will be released on next tuesday
Ooh, now I'm not normally a fan of operators putting their own branding/colours into the interfacem but that blue TF3D looks reeeaaal purdy
O2 Forums all say it's out. Many have already ordered and are awaiting delivery .
Nope just called them and it is not out yet The release date they have on their system is 10th November but none have become available. I have been promised a handset as soon as it becomes available so I will let you know when I have more news.

HTC HD2 on O2.........

Hi all,
Release date for the HD2 on O2 was yesterday, I have been trying my utmost to get hold of one of these. Does anyone know any insider information?
I seem to be getting different info from different O2 reps.
I WANT ONE NOW!
Nobody knows - but the best guess at the moment is next week at the earliest. O2 just can't seem to answer a straight question different representatives giving different answers. It could come out this afternoon but nobody knows
looks like its been delayed until november now
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looks like its been delayed until november now
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based on what?
Gonna phone them again. They are all saying its due this week but can't tell me when. They say only once it shows on the system can they price it etc.
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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i know it's terrible waiting! i am so DESPERATE for this phone lol
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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The HD2 was supposed to be "in the final stages of acceptance testing" last week.
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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How they expected the Pre to sell as well as their marketing implies that they expected it to, is a mystery to me - the Pre offers very little new or exciting, with the OS being the only real exception (and I've heard a wide range of opinions on the OS). The problem is, if they hold back the HD2, they're going to end up not selling many of those as most people who want one will have moved to a different network or got one unlocked (O2 is one of the worse networks now IMHO - presumably they spent all of their money on iPhone exclusivity and subsidisation rather than improving their network and offering good deals).
Why doesn't the BBC interview O2 about the HD2 instead of wasting time interviewing them about the Pre?
I agree
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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I think you might jus be right on that one my friend hopefully that wil teach them next time not be greedy and try to stock every handset under the sun
Yes, been pushed back to 3rd week November. However none of the reps I have spoken to are absolutely sure when it will be out, nor what the final pricing structure will be.
I am assuming they will definitely be out by December to catch the Xmas traffic.
WB
Lol,
they will be selling it on estonia at late october on early november.
T-mobile is also selling them on 6 Nov according to them. I guess O2 thinks they are special and people will wait for them
Keep an eye on this thread guys.
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
ianmason said:
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
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You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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Blimey!!
Just eager to get hold of it as soon as I can.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
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Thing is, they were originally planning to launch the HD2 on 12th October, so that blows your theory out of the water. See here:
http://www.redmondpie.com/o2-uk-launching-htc-hd2-on-october-12-lkj621/
and various other news reports.
ianmason said:
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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Of course he didn't have to ask a supervisor. He was just telling you what you wanted to hear so he could get you off the line and move on to the next customer with a genuine need of assistance.
I'm not trying to be nasty, but there's no way the HD2 will be on sale from O2 on Monday, when none of the e-tailers are getting it until 11th November at the earliest. So for the next month or so, why don't you be patient, leave the poor call centre staff alone and get on with enjoying your life. It's only a phone.

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