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Xda Zinc Delay!!!

O2 are so bad at doing this. They always seem to push the phones back. Every XDA I have wanted seems to keep on getting pushed back.
I have a friend who works for O2 and he said he went into a meeting last week and was told they needed a new software revision for the phone before it was launched, and this usually takes a month.
If I call up O2 though they still say March 26th, but he (my friend) says that i should take a bet on it with them because he is sure it won’t.
Does anyone know any differently?

i would like to know the same. the zinc has disapeared from the 'Coming Soon' section on the O2 site.

churchwa said:
If I call up O2 though they still say March 26th, but he (my friend) says that i should take a bet on it with them because he is sure it won’t.
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Well 26th March has just gone and no sign of it yet. I hope you made a large bet!
Anyone got any updates on availability?

ill look on the internal Excel spread of phone we are due soon when im next in, as a rule of thumb I always tell people, this is when it is supposed to be arriving and show them the sheet, then say, push that date back by about 2-3 weeks and it should be with us by then.
reading on another thread in here, it seems people are being told they have dropped the zinc and are going to replace it with the Trion (HTC Hermes) due the 16th of April !?!?

http://blogs.conchango.com/kenibarw...re_2E002E002E00_-o2-Trion-is-alive_2100_.aspx
Yep looks the trion is on its way, no more zinc.

XDA Zinc, anyone had any luck?

Supposed to be out today, but O2 tell me they are not in stock. Has anyone else had any luck?

o2 are always behind the times, partly due to them always making pointless rubbish like o2 active for their phones. however as this forum is for htc devices only, i doubt there will be a forum
"Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names..."
from the xda portal, there used to be a section which said something like this-
"the only things not wrong about the site name/address are the dash and the dot..."
it should really be called something like
www.devices-manfactured-specifically-by-htc-developers.com
says v in this thread

I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?

I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.

benjdc said:
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
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Absolutely - I rang them on Friday and they said they were still all on for the Zinc. However, someone on one of the Universal forums said there were real problems with it.
The imate ultimate looks a better bet. Shame O2 won't have the taste to go for it.

churchwa said:
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
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I looked at your other posts, including why is this forum just htc? and because this is your second thread about the xda zinc, i just thought it would be like asking about a nokia or blackberry release (which generally doesn't happen). That said, I really hope you or someone else gets one because unless o2 make another horribly slow rom, I want one. And this is the only place where people are likely to talk specifically about it, and I/we can find out if it's any good...
I guess that clears it up, or not

It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..

hdubli said:
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
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Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.

apd said:
Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
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REALLY??? I've been hassleing o2 for the trion for ages. Was told its only out in Germany, the UK gets the Zinc. I really hope you're right!!
EDIT: Just called o2 myself. Indeed the Xda ZINC has officially been pulled "We are no longer going to release this phone". Instead we have the Trion (Hermes) out on 16th April, together with the o2 Argon (whatever that is...I've never heard of it and nor had the o2 guy).
Looks like I'll finally get my Hermes (although I really want the HTC Kaiser which has integrated GPS)

The Trion will be out week starting 2nd of April (yeah right, i will believe that when i see it)
And they dont have a clue what the Argon is which i find quite funny. I will ask my friend at O2 what the Argon is when he gets back from holiday.

although im going to have to wait yet another month, i guess its good news. atleast they are going to release something to replace my mini s. we'l wait and see.

I'm led to believe that the Argon is an HTC device with inbuilt GPS - go search the HTC site? Not sure the model.

Strange, as the only one with GPS on their site is already out as the Orbit.
I have heard it is a full sized business device designed to replace the XDA II/IIs. I guess all the firms using them want to upgrade?

I'm wondering if the O2 XDA Argon is actually the long-rumoured Universal replacement, the HTC Omni?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=245564

Angry against HTC

HTC Touch cruise had to be commercialized since 29th november.
In France, Only Surcouf had 10 pieces at the end of december.
So, where is it ?
I start to ask myself if I will study to buy other pda because i can't wait now more than 15 days.
HTC, are you thinking you can take customers as idiots ?
I was hoping having TC for christmas then for the new year and now, i have phoned to the big french store and none of them have order this model.
And no way to know which store will be selling the phone. I can't contact HTC.
Please, HTC, don't sell phone you don't have in stock and don't be surprised your sells was bad in december !
Ziggy

You can find HTC cruise on pixmania or materiel.net sur expansys.fr sur ldlc.com but not before the 16/01.
ps:si tu le trouves ailleur avant dit le moi

I am searching the HTC TC with illimythic SFR subscription but illimythic will end the 22 of january, argghh and it's less expensive to buy the HTC TC with a subscription (about 150 € less i think, maybe more)
PS : d'accord
Ziggy

Ziggy95 said:
I am searching the HTC TC with illimythic SFR subscription but illimythic will end the 22 of january, argghh and it's less expensive to buy the HTC TC with a subscription (about 150 € less i think, maybe more)
PS : d'accord
Ziggy
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You can subscrite to illymythic with a good phone (like Nokia N95 8Go) unlock the phone and sell it on ebay, and with the money you buy a HTC CRUISE...

scott512 said:
You can subscrite to illymythic with a good phone (like Nokia N95 8Go) unlock the phone and sell it on ebay, and with the money you buy a HTC CRUISE...
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nice mate!

Energy ti ho mandato mp + email mi potresti rispondere grazie

There seems to be a problem with the HTC TC. HTC stopped delivering the TC. They will restart distributing the phone in week 9.
Source: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1257544/36

some people get angry when products are delayd
some get angry when the product is released before a propper driver for it's cpu's video playback and gaming is there
guess htc cant win

You can subscrite to illymythic with a good phone (like Nokia N95 8Go) unlock the phone and sell it on ebay, and with the money you buy a HTC CRUISE...
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Nice idea. I keep it in mine.
For the delay week 9, i did'nt understand the language on the link.
Any information about this will be nice
Bye
Ziggy

Ziggy95 said:
Nice idea. I keep it in mine.
For the delay week 9, i did'nt understand the language on the link.
Any information about this will be nice
Bye
Ziggy
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It's Dutch. The posting says that HTC is expected to start shipping TCs in week 9, so orders will be shipped in week 10. At the moment, it is unclear why HTC can't/won't ship TCs.

Rudegar said:
some people get angry when products are delayd
some get angry when the product is released before a propper driver for it's cpu's video playback and gaming is there
guess htc cant win
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But don't you think that your second option meets the HTC Kaiser/Cruise production too....??
I hope HTC can managed all this....!!!

Ziggy95 said:
Nice idea. I keep it in mine.
For the delay week 9, i did'nt understand the language on the link.
Any information about this will be nice
Bye
Ziggy
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Me too!

Muyz said:
It's Dutch. The posting says that HTC is expected to start shipping TCs in week 9, so orders will be shipped in week 10. At the moment, it is unclear why HTC can't/won't ship TCs.
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Is the timing of this and the court decision against Qualcomm just a coincidence?

True, I have just e-mailed the HTC company to ask for some more info about this... I just can't wait 2 weeks, and I'm getting crazy by the idea of waiting another 8 weeks:
Dear sir/madam,
Today I have received the message that you have postponed the HTC Touch Cruise (the NL and UK version) to week 9.
I wonder if this message is true and what the reason was for this drastic method. I call it drastic, since I have been waiting for this phone since half November (from the press release) and the fact that you already have postponed it before, in the beginning of December.
So could you tell me what the major issues where, and why you need to postpone it? The only complaints I have heard was that the video playback was shocking and that the camera was slow, but that this was a problem with the Qualcomm chip. Will that be fixed with the new generation of HTC Touch Cruises? Or shall I try to buy one of the UK models which are on the market right now? What's your advice on this point, is it worth waiting for?
Thanks in advance, I'm looking forward to your reply.
Regards,
Bart van den Hengel
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I'll keep ya up to date, when I get a reply!

I've checked with my supplier (Belgium - http://www.sergevandermaesen.be/) and he confirmed me that my order will be on its way to arrrive Wednesday. So obviously not all suppliers have this issue?

"But don't you think that your second option meets the HTC Kaiser/Cruise production too....??"
yeah thats the irony of it that they are being blamed for both not getting them fast enough to the users and for releasing a product which people feel is not compleat

HTC S**kZ! They don't answered to my e-mail! I'm waiting for 3 weeks.

SoberGuy said:
Is the timing of this and the court decision against Qualcomm just a coincidence?
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Ho hum ... I was flamed for this all last week, but I stand by what I said: until the thing is actually in the retailers with known (demonstrated) specs and price, I will put out NO $$$

If my copy gets in Wednesday, I'll be sure to test it in the afternoon/night and let you know, price was € 530, about $ 778.

Maybe the new delay is because of the Qualcomm issue, maybe it's not. First batch of Cruises was/is already out and is being sold in the retail (I got one 2 weeks ago).
Surely interesting to see there is yet another delay, even though it's already being sold. It seems that the shops that are selling the Cruise already are running out of stock quite fast.
Anyway, let's hope the delay is for the good. Maybe an upgraded firmware (dare I say:"Video driver"? .. nahhhh ) or perhaps something else that has to do with Qualcomm and their adventures. Let's just hope it's the last of the delays and more of you people can start and enjoy this new device.

Raphael Sighted Vodafone UK

http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4184.html

my friend who works in vodafone upgrades said the shipment date on his system says the 31st of this month, i meant to post that weeks ago but couldnt be bothered as i forgot my password lol.
hope its released on orange around the same time.

m4k said:
http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4184.html
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oh im getting all excited
watch this it will cost £200 on a £35 a month contract

bagg1234bagg said:
my friend who works in vodafone upgrades said the shipment date on his system says the 31st of this month, i meant to post that weeks ago but couldnt be bothered as i forgot my password lol.
hope its released on orange around the same time.
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Anyone have any news on whether Orange are releasing at the same time ?

OregonAird said:
Anyone have any news on whether Orange are releasing at the same time ?
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sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk

goodstone said:
sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk
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How do you know this ????
If it true it's a shame , i'd like to stay on orange

Jonny_doe said:
How do you know this ????
If it true it's a shame , i'd like to stay on orange
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Been on orange for 4 years wasnt really happy to change, but after speaking to upgrades 2 weeks ago they said that they were not doing this phone in the very near future. The guy on upgrades was surprised at this also. had to migrate to t-mobile through expansys. Very happy though since iv got the HTC handset unlocked to al networks with no network label on handset.

goodstone said:
sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk
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Thats terrible news, I been with Orange for like 8 years.. I'm classed as a band 5 customer and always get the newest phones for free... I have loads of magic numbers. N!O!N!O !
When they say near furture. i'm hoping they mean it might be available next month!
I might have to stick it out and wait for the Sony X1, but not even sure if that will be available, not sure I can draw myself to the lows for the Diamond, there was just to much going for the pro...

According to the vodafone forum, the touch pro will only be available on business contracts. The reason they give is becuase the touch pro browser can not support vodafone live.

Scheduled Vodafone Touch Pro Release Date
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
Vodafone UK

Dazz_Vodafone said:
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
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Thanks Daz, can you confirm the availability limited only to Business Contracts due to the Vodafone Live problem on the Touch Browser? If this indeed is a problem, but bear in mind the Touch Browser browser is Opera, but of course Internet Explorer is still installed on it and therefore should be ok.

OregonAird said:
Thats terrible news, I been with Orange for like 8 years.. I'm classed as a band 5 customer and always get the newest phones for free... I have loads of magic numbers. N!O!N!O !
When they say near furture. i'm hoping they mean it might be available next month!
I might have to stick it out and wait for the Sony X1, but not even sure if that will be available, not sure I can draw myself to the lows for the Diamond, there was just to much going for the pro...
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Orange says they will be doing the sony x1. He did try to make me stay with them and wait for the X1. I think you will be waiting a long time for the PRO on Orange.

Dazz_Vodafone said:
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
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Daz, do you have to be a business to get one, provide your VAT number etc?

^^ I would also like to know that, i take it that means it wont be available on normal contract ?

modd1uk said:
^^ I would also like to know that, i take it that means it wont be available on normal contract ?
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If Voda are like Dell then they don't care if you use the business channels as they get the money anyway, however if their only objective is to push vodalive in everyone's face then maybe not

The touch pro is going to be people most obvious upgrade from the kaiser, which was available on a consumer contract, so why are they only offering it on a buisiness contract, if people are willing to pay on a normal consumer contract then why not take the money?

Best place to get information is from the vodafone forum.
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4669&st=100&start=100
Some quotes from vodafone staff below
Vintagewhino - I'm afraid there's been no change on this device being classified as business only, although if we hear anything regarding this you'll be amongst the first to find out. Was there a particular reason you wanted to go for the Touch Pro as opposed to the Diamond?
Its not that the HTC have hardware issues, its just that they have the business firmware loaded and as such are not compatible with the consumer services
Hi intertree
I wouldn’t be able to go into the technical details of this because there aren’t any technical reasons. This is purely a Vodafone decision.
This phone is only available for business users, so if you are not a business user, unfortunately you wouldn’t be able to get this phone. You could give our sales team a call and see if there is any way around it or see if there are any other devices that are available on consumer plans that would suit your needs.

Probably because the administrative overheads from a support point of view are higher for a device like this. They may have decided this based on a high number of support calls received for the Kaiser and took the decision to offer it to a smaller but, arguably, more competent sector of their user base.

HTC HD2 on O2.........

Hi all,
Release date for the HD2 on O2 was yesterday, I have been trying my utmost to get hold of one of these. Does anyone know any insider information?
I seem to be getting different info from different O2 reps.
I WANT ONE NOW!

Nobody knows - but the best guess at the moment is next week at the earliest. O2 just can't seem to answer a straight question different representatives giving different answers. It could come out this afternoon but nobody knows

looks like its been delayed until november now

loomx said:
looks like its been delayed until november now
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based on what?

Gonna phone them again. They are all saying its due this week but can't tell me when. They say only once it shows on the system can they price it etc.

Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!

ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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i know it's terrible waiting! i am so DESPERATE for this phone lol

Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).

ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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The HD2 was supposed to be "in the final stages of acceptance testing" last week.
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Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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How they expected the Pre to sell as well as their marketing implies that they expected it to, is a mystery to me - the Pre offers very little new or exciting, with the OS being the only real exception (and I've heard a wide range of opinions on the OS). The problem is, if they hold back the HD2, they're going to end up not selling many of those as most people who want one will have moved to a different network or got one unlocked (O2 is one of the worse networks now IMHO - presumably they spent all of their money on iPhone exclusivity and subsidisation rather than improving their network and offering good deals).
Why doesn't the BBC interview O2 about the HD2 instead of wasting time interviewing them about the Pre?

I agree
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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I think you might jus be right on that one my friend hopefully that wil teach them next time not be greedy and try to stock every handset under the sun

Yes, been pushed back to 3rd week November. However none of the reps I have spoken to are absolutely sure when it will be out, nor what the final pricing structure will be.
I am assuming they will definitely be out by December to catch the Xmas traffic.
WB

Lol,
they will be selling it on estonia at late october on early november.

T-mobile is also selling them on 6 Nov according to them. I guess O2 thinks they are special and people will wait for them

Keep an eye on this thread guys.

Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?

ianmason said:
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
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You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.

Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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Blimey!!
Just eager to get hold of it as soon as I can.

Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.

Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!

Dark Fire said:
How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
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Thing is, they were originally planning to launch the HD2 on 12th October, so that blows your theory out of the water. See here:
http://www.redmondpie.com/o2-uk-launching-htc-hd2-on-october-12-lkj621/
and various other news reports.
ianmason said:
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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Of course he didn't have to ask a supervisor. He was just telling you what you wanted to hear so he could get you off the line and move on to the next customer with a genuine need of assistance.
I'm not trying to be nasty, but there's no way the HD2 will be on sale from O2 on Monday, when none of the e-tailers are getting it until 11th November at the earliest. So for the next month or so, why don't you be patient, leave the poor call centre staff alone and get on with enjoying your life. It's only a phone.