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[Solved] need to get an alternative tapres.dll to work in WM6

Hi, I need some help here:
I have tried extracting tapres.dll from several WM6 releases.
However, they never seem to be correctly rebuild after dumping the ROMs.
Does anyone know a way to get hold of a Working tapres.dll (from WM6 !!!) ?
I have tried dumping rom's with itsme tools (viewimgfsf, rebuild module etc..), but the resources from the file are VERY strange..
I need this file because I am writing a new program to build dailerskins, But I want to resize the dailerbuttons.
Solved:
Raceit pointed me to the resource file:
tapres.dll.0409.mui
This one needs to be edited!!
Am working on it.
Thanks Raceit !!!
The problem now is in how to make WM6 to use the new tapres2.dll (and MUI file)
edit
Had to write a new dll, but succeeded:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297530

I got this with viewimgfs.exe as well so I'm not sure it will be of any help to you. This is from the Orwells ROM.

Thanks, too bad I got the same results:
There are no dialogs to be edited..
So it's not (yet) possible to have a big button dailer.

I understand this is about the dialer, but for some reason my WM6 dialer wokrs fine, i can change the background and button graphics, however when i am prompted to enter my SIM pin code the number pad has the nasty white background and pink buttons etc... (as if there is no skin).
What .dll controls the dialpad and sim pin pad?! Could i be missing some graphics files?!?

mrvanx said:
I understand this is about the dialer, but for some reason my WM6 dialer wokrs fine, i can change the background and button graphics, however when i am prompted to enter my SIM pin code the number pad has the nasty white background and pink buttons etc... (as if there is no skin).
What .dll controls the dialpad and sim pin pad?! Could i be missing some graphics files?!?
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Been a while since I messed with sim-pin pad..
Out of memory I believe that:
The background is created by cmdpad_land.gif cmdpad_port.gif (and square, but this is not used on wizard).
And the buttons are the NmBtnDn_Land.bmp and other nmbtb**etc** bmps.
[ for convenience I attached those ]

thanks sir, i added the graphics to the \windows folder but still no joy (im running on the hermes btw). could my .dll that refers to it have been corrupted?!

mrvanx said:
thanks sir, i added the graphics to the \windows folder but still no joy (im running on the hermes btw). could my .dll that refers to it have been corrupted?!
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It sounds like an image problem. I'd uninstall any dialer skin you have running to get the default stuff back if you can. If that doesn't work try this. It's the same as the-equinoxe posted, but there are a few more files. (No offense the-equinoxe) Just trying to help. This should get all the dialer buttons and images back to normal.

LOL! i REALLY appreciate the help people but still no luck! :s could i have corrupted a .dll or registry value when the ROM was cooked?

Raceit said:
It sounds like an image problem. I'd uninstall any dialer skin you have running to get the default stuff back if you can. If that doesn't work try this. It's the same as the-equinoxe posted, but there are a few more files. (No offense the-equinoxe) Just trying to help. This should get all the dialer buttons and images back to normal.
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None taken
I only posted the pin-pad images (out of memory, didn't find my notes), and left the dailerpad images out.
LOL! i REALLY appreciate the help people but still no luck! :s could i have corrupted a .dll or registry value when the ROM was cooked?
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Could be, what changes have you performed while cooking the ROM?
Did you edit the grafics for the dailerpad while cooking of afterwards?

mrvanx said:
I understand this is about the dialer, but for some reason my WM6 dialer wokrs fine, i can change the background and button graphics, however when i am prompted to enter my SIM pin code the number pad has the nasty white background and pink buttons etc... (as if there is no skin).
What .dll controls the dialpad and sim pin pad?! Could i be missing some graphics files?!?
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I've got same problem. I think that's a sort of TMobile skin and not a file missing problem.
All began after i installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34670&d=1172649654

SpH1nX said:
I've got same problem. I think that's a sort of TMobile skin and not a file missing problem.
All began after i installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34670&d=1172649654
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The file you refer to is the smart dialer, and installing it without a skin gives the same result as my sim-pin pad has. but LOL yer it does look like a T-mobile skin. Just install a skin and it will work ok.

the-equinoxe said:
None taken
I only posted the pin-pad images (out of memory, didn't find my notes), and left the dailerpad images out.
Could be, what changes have you performed while cooking the ROM?
Did you edit the grafics for the dailerpad while cooking of afterwards?
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Well the first ROM worked fine, the black WM6 dialer and pin-pad looked the same, by copying the files from this post into the windows folder the colours and graphics for both the dialer and pin-pad were changed?!? (as desired)
But after the ROM change the pin-pad is white with no buttons. adding the files again to windows only changes the dialer. :s
AFAIK nothing has been done to the dialer skin, however it may have been changed by accident!? Which is why Im wondering which .dlls and reg values effect these?!

SOLVED
Raceit pointed me to the resource file:
tapres.dll.0409.mui
This one needs to be edited!!
Thanks Raceit !!!

Could you explain how to fix that skinning problem?

SpH1nX said:
Could you explain how to fix that skinning problem?
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I am testing/working on it @ this moment..
All looks promissing but please be patient, don't want to rush out a release.
Only difference with the eten/paulyA skins is you edit another file, some regkeys are differrent, and the smartdail is build into the same resource.
Will build a test-skin (based on the Eten-grey Light I build for WM5), and do some test.
I will also build my findings in the WM6 dailerskin-builder program I am working on.
This one is still in the early development fase, and not all screens have been skinned.
Status:
-editing NEW resource Had to write my own dll, Done
-Dailer portrait Done
-Dailer landscape Done
-Call in progress portrait In progress
-Call in progress landscape In progress
-Button templates In progress
This program will be WM6 WWE QVGA only, but I will probably add some other languages once those are released.
Attached:
-a screenshot from the skinbuilder (although I am thinking to change the layout, because the troubles I have with switching to landscape and control-placement)..
Clicking on the screen will let you select the background picture
You can choose the buttonset (here used "test" ) with the dropdown menu.
You can change the transparancy of the buttonset with the slider.
And build a cab by clicking a button..

Sorry i didn't wanna bother you. I'll wait. Absolutely no probs...

Still having troubles applying the new tapres.dll
Replacing the XIP based tapres.dll crashes the dailer..
Then I tried to use the tapres.dll (plus MUI) as skin
So I renamed the dll and Mui to tapres2
and edited the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone]
"IcoFil"="tapres2.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
"ext"="tapres2.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"RESDLL"="tapres2.dll"
To no avail, still the old tapres.dll takes over
What am I missing??
EDIT:
OK I had to build a new dll.
Started from scratch, but now I have Big Buttons and Smartdailing Working
New thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297530

Classic Reading.
I think MrVanx would also like to see this one back someday.
I even remember myself finding out that there needed to be a phcanXXXETC.dll and a specific registry key to get a skinned unluck screen.
I'm closing the thread, but will never remove this.

change the dialped.

is it possible to change the default dialped to the one that i show in the attachment ?
thanks
ori

ori_lavee said:
is it possible to change the default dialped to the one that i show in the attachment ?
thanks
ori
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Hi Ori,
I dont have the kaiser yet to tell you for sure, but I think this will work for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321605

as long as you install the SDKCERTS.cab should be fine but why would you want to take a step back the dail pad is amazing that comes with the Kaiser

austinsnyc said:
as long as you install the SDKCERTS.cab should be fine but why would you want to take a step back the dail pad is amazing that comes with the Kaiser
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He is using EZdial on his diaer, and it dosent fit on the Kaiser dialer.

hi shay and austinsnyc
thanks for trying to help
shay is right it is not possible to use EZDail on the default dialped.
since the default dialped that comes with the original ROM on the Kaiser is also a SKIN
it is not possible to disable it by editing the registry and install a different skin because the original skin always have preference
i need to find a way to disable the default dialped deeper than only editing the following registry velue :
HLM > Security > Phone > Skin > Enabled to 0 from 1
Ori

someone ?
ideas ?

nobody have a clue for me how can i do it

I'll post here instead of making new thread.
I also want to change my current dial pad on vario III. I already have whats presented in first post and want to have something I had on my wizard with WM6 which looked like this. Any ideas how to change to that dialpad?

very god!!!

Predo
I managed to get this dialpad by mistake !
I tried to use the program "Realvga". It has an option to remove dialpad which I selected, It then gave me this dialpad that you are talking about. Obviously the rest of the programs fatures didnt work. But i find this defualt dialpad to be faster then the default Kaisers pad.
Lemme know if this is what you are after.

dalewinterstein said:
Predo
I managed to get this dialpad by mistake !
I tried to use the program "Realvga". It has an option to remove dialpad which I selected, It then gave me this dialpad that you are talking about. Obviously the rest of the programs fatures didnt work. But i find this defualt dialpad to be faster then the default Kaisers pad.
Lemme know if this is what you are after.
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spot on my friend! much appreciated! i do agree that without skin it is faster and what's more important for me it is so much more usable!
thanks!

The registry key posted above by ori_lavee and a soft reset are enough to get back to the original dialpad, which i like better than htc's dialer, but..... 3g video call doesn't work. it's not on the dial pad, it's in the menu, but it doesn't work

RPG0 said:
The registry key posted above by ori_lavee and a soft reset are enough to get back to the original dialpad, which i like better than htc's dialer, but..... 3g video call doesn't work. it's not on the dial pad, it's in the menu, but it doesn't work
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yes that is the problem

well not for me as I'm not using video calling but i can imagine it is a serious limitation nevertheless

I was just checking in to see if there was a new dialer perhaps that looks like the one on the touch - like the one in the attached jpg in the first photo?
Thanks

Dutty's newest ROM for the Tilt has almost that exact dialer.

Thank you very much! I don't use speed dial but the person who asked me if I could find one complained that speed dial disn't work afterwards - do you know if I just wasn't doing something right.

predo said:
I'll post here instead of making new thread.
I also want to change my current dial pad on vario III. I already have whats presented in first post and want to have something I had on my wizard with WM6 which looked like this. Any ideas how to change to that dialpad?
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If you want to revert to the standard (and nicer IMHO) WM6 dialpad, just edit the following key :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\phone\skin]
Enabled = 0

sebbes said:
If you want to revert to the standard (and nicer IMHO) WM6 dialpad, just edit the following key :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\phone\skin]
Enabled = 0
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Thank you, it works. Now I have a DialPAD I like. After custom ROM I got a Touch DialPAD which somehow missing the Speed Dial key pad.

Was the same for me, and I didnt like the blue background for reading the smartdialer's matching entries

"Perfect Setup"

Hi everyone
I would just like to pose the question, what your idea of the "perfect" setup for the Palm Treo 750?
As for myself I have:
S2U2.99c
S2V.32
PCM.19
PCM Keyboard.13
Weather To Go 4.2
Zombienexus Black Reptile skin dial pad
PointUI 1.02b with Update Manager
I would just like to see what other have so I can possibly improve my experience with my Treo 750.
Thanks to all who post!!

Does your sms work through PCM .19? Does your dialpad skin actually work and change the look of it? Can you post links to all of these programs you have or cabs?

My sms does not work through pcm but I hope someone knows how to fix this problem.
As for the dial pad, when I am in PointUi I can press the green phone button to go directly to the new dial pad. When I am not in PointUI i have to be on a call first then press the phone icon thats by the reception bars in order to see it. Also it seems to take away my sound if Ichange my ringtones but I have found one dial pad that does not remove my sound. The Zombienexus has many themes in the .zip pack but the one that always works is a simple black dial pad.
Also in order to make PCM your default keyboard you need to use the DefaultIM file I included.
S2U2.99c is at http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/s2u2.shtml
Zombie dial pads are at http://www.zombienexus.net/portal/gl_subdirectory.asp?srt=3&ord=1&sec=3&catid=89
Weather to go is at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-weather-to-go-v4-2.html
Simple black phone pad is at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-iphone-phone-pad.html

changing the default wm6 unbranded rom dial pad skin

as in the topic, anybody knows how to change the dial pad skin? it's just ugly and since the treo doesn't have the 'phone' application as such, all the nice skins just don't work :/

mikebem said:
as in the topic, anybody knows how to change the dial pad skin? it's just ugly and since the treo doesn't have the 'phone' application as such, all the nice skins just don't work :/
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I tried asking a question very similar to this a little while back and got no responses. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379320

Search more. There was a thread about that (disabling activecall plugin, changing registry) and it IS possible.

miloszz said:
Search more. There was a thread about that (disabling activecall plugin, changing registry) and it IS possible.
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I see. So it is tied into the activecall plugin then? That thing is handy, but they made it way too integrated with everything else (i.e. carrier name on today screen, dial from today screen). They should have separated it into different plugins.

that is so true, i mean - i could live without the today screen dialing as i the htc home speed dial thingie bob altho, the red cnl call button screen off feature is a must in order to squeeze a half-decent battery life out of the stock treo battery pack;
i have to admit i just got my treo (read: after years and years of being a faithfull fan i forced myself to replace my nokia with a wm phone) a week ago and didn't upgrade to wm6.1 yet; this is planned and will happen as soon as i get a chance to; the question is, do the wm6.1 images come with this plugin or not?

mikebem said:
the question is, do the wm6.1 images come with this plugin or not?
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I am not using 6.1 yet, but ask that question in the ROM forum for better answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=322

WM6.1 roms have dial lookup and active call plugins.

Dialer - Slide2Answer as HTC

Hi,
is it possible to change the acer dialer by a S2A style dialer?
if yes i would appreciate a cab file plz !!
if not, is it possible that the phone switches to the WM6.5 lockscreen dialer when i have an incoming call ??
thanks for your help.
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give S2U2 a try, i love it!

i prefer to keep the WM6.5 screenlock.
and the real problem for me is when the screen is not locked, i want a slide to answer (so s2u2 wil not change anything about this?)
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nogit said:
Hi,
if not, is it possible that the phone switches to the WM6.5 lockscreen dialer when i have an incoming call ??
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Use "SmartLock" . Is the best way to do what you want.

sorry but smartlock is not the solution to my problem...
even if i ask to smartlock to lock with an incoming call, it's the Acer dialer that appears firts and not the WM slide to answer.

There is a simple solution to deactivate Acer Dialer and to use WM Dialer.
Download Advanced Config Go to Phone / Dialer / Disabled
This solved my problem.... Im using resco's contact manager for "slide 2 answer" and acer's call handling was dominant, thats why i had to disable this dialer...
i hope i could help you

riotman said:
There is a simple solution to deactivate Acer Dialer and to use WM Dialer.
Download Advanced Config Go to Phone / Dialer / Disabled
This solved my problem.... Im using resco's contact manager for "slide 2 answer" and acer's call handling was dominant, thats why i had to disable this dialer...
i hope i could help you
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thanks man,
your method works great, however the resco manager S2A is quite awfull...
has i did not found any skins i would not keep this slider
no way to have a htc dialer cab????????
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Hi!!
Thanks for the info, but can you post a link to the program?
Thank you!

its a shareware proggie, which can be bought at resco.net
another slide 2 answer proggie which is for free is s2u2, its freeware just google it. many skins can be found on this forums too

Hi!
Thanks for the answer but I was talking about the other program, the one to disable the Acer's dialer Any ideas?
Thank you again!!!

arroba3 said:
Hi!
Thanks for the answer but I was talking about the other program, the one to disable the Acer's dialer Any ideas?
Thank you again!!!
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here it is:
http://www.touchxperience.com/applications/advanced-configuration-tool/downloads.html
@Riotman
when the phone is not locked with S2U2 and if you have an incoming call, is it the slide to answer of s2u2 or the Acer dialer that appears ??

Oh yeah!!! It works!! I've been searching for ages for a solution to use s2u2's dialer and now it works perfectly!!
Thank you very much!

i think acers call management wont appear anymore if you disable acers dialer via ad config tool. im using phonex atm and acers phone management doesnt appear anymore

have you guys tried stopping the acer dialer from installing in the first place? it is still in the extrom right? so it means that it installs after you set up your device (calibrate screen, input time and date...)
which means if it was not installed in the first place, you can use any dialer you want... i might be wrong though, i have used several acer and eten phones and all of them uses the "push camera button" while the system tries to instal oem cabs to stop it.

try to use Inesoft Dialer