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Whilst I am requesting new forums i just wanted to throw this out there as an idea. I am sure it has been asked before.
Why do we only have HTC phones on these forums.
I am busy in loads of these forums as i have a
Blueangel
Alpine
Magician
Universal
Hermes
Trinity
Typhoon
Tornado
Vox
but i also have a Samsung I320 and a Samsung I600
There is stuff in the Dash forum about the I600 so i feel there is a demand, maybe we should have the option to poll for new phones or something.
I mean lets face it there arent that many windows phones that are not made by HTC and all windows phones whatever make are relevant to each other.
Cant we have some of these as well.
Pretty please.

... motorola mpx series

i also having a htc pda phone but samsung smartphone....

If you'll read the Welcome message on the home page, you'll see why this site is only for the HTC phones. While there are threads and posts concerning other phones, the developers of this site develop exclusively for the HTC phones.
There are other forums for other phone manufacturers on the web. You just need to look for them. Google is good. . .

Modaco pimps for every phone under the sun. However, if you're duly surreptitious you can usually slip a non HTC post or thread under our radar. But yes, we are pretty much tied to HTC phones.
I think that if it's general WM issues, post and we'll see.
But as HTC phones have so many specific issues, some of your queries may fall on deaf ears.
V

adding more support for more devices dont mean one get more
knowlage about those devices
sure add support for all wm devices ever made
but that dont mean developers will always pop up
worst case is forums for eten, hp, dell, toshiba
forums with only threads with people asking questions
and nobody answring and thats really not much help

Look, this forum supports monopoly. Specifically Windows Mobile and HTC, if you're not down with that, then you can just take your free market free thought views elsewhere!
Im joking above, and whilst its unlikely a website thinks too far into the future as HTC looses its market share and more windows mobile devices roll out, perhaps even this year, I belive we may see the beginnings of a more diversified forum.
The imate ultimate series, Gigabyte devices and O2s latest non-HTC offerings will all be popular WM6 devices, that to exclude will most likely just generate a plethora of postings in the general sub-forum.
Actually why not use the Xda developers brand to develop a sister forum that caters for these specifically non-HTC phones, but pumps some ads on the site owing to the relative ad-free forum experience we have here. [Im not a fan of web ads, but I use HTC devices for now and the forseeable future so doesnt affect me ]

Adding the i780?

Hi all, just as a matter of curiosity, why hasnt the samsung sgh i780 been added to the forums (i know there are people who have added stuff for the i780 here - there just isnt a link from the main page to a forum specifically for the i789)?
I know the forums are generally htc/treo targeted but the i780 is a windows mobile based device which out weighs the tytan 2 in many respects and performs well as a pda/ppc, surely it would be of interest to many to see what rom updates etc you guys could come up with for this great device from the first page?
I am a wizard owner and am upgrading to the i780 - hence the "mandatory" blowing of its horn. I would love to see what you guys come up with as i never make a move on my wizard without first reading up on it here, it would be a pity to start tinckering with the i780 without first cross referencing here on XDA

This is a forum for htc devices only, people have asked for i780 forum before also, but as i said this forum is just for htc devices. You have to look somewhere else for samsung i780 forum (check my signature).

Hmmm... i always thought it was more for windows mobile devices as opposed to focusing on a single brand of phone, cant complain though - everything here is still awesome.
Thanks Sammy, i think this is the first reply i have ever gotten on xda, hence mu low post count . Im checking out your sig now. Thanks again

hmmm, windows mobile is becoming a standard on alot of devices now. maybe they should consider adding a section for other brands since everyone ends up here on this site anyway.
Not to mention at the moment other brands have posts and threads all over the show making it all very messy.
They can simply add a section and call it : Non HTC brands ... will certainly keep the forum neater.
Maybe someone should make a poll and put some pressure on the guys to do it ?

Well, even though i had given up the query i am still inclined to feel that there isnt any reason phones like the i780 arent a featured device.
Sammy said:
This is a forum for htc devices only
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Fair enough, but no explanation as to why XDA describes itself as
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Community of XDA developers for programming and modding of PDA Cellphone hybrids
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Doesnt make much sense, it almost implies that htc, palm and treo are the "only" true hybrids... Dont know about anyone else but my i780 whips most of em and makes for a pretty realistic hybrid of phone and pda.
Such as it is though, i am still very appreciative of the people on xda, a lot of time and effort goes into their work - for htc's and whatever else the mobile world pumps out. So essentially if they dont want to waver from pure htc then who am i to argue. Hence i suggested and dropped it.
- by the by, any admins reading this... how do i change my screen name?

yes i would agree with a general samsung phone as there are a few of us here among the HTC user. btw HTC made the hardware for the Palm treo 750 that is why there is a forum for it here.

Along the same lines, Samsung is responsible for the processors in most htc devices.
Im glad someone agrees with me though, even a general "click here for samsung stuff" would be great.

I have a htc like you but I would not be against the idea of a section for other brands

If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.

moneytoo said:
If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.
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Lol... yeah, i have checked out modaco a few times but the reality of it is that they are just adding links through to xda. Doesn't really help the cause. The thing that makes a forum like this so great is that there are so many dedicated developers "HERE" - why would they want to go somewhere else It is weird however that the developers are obviously interested in developing for other hybrids, so why haven't any of them posed the question? surely its disappointing to see your hard work disappear under tons of "i need a great headset" and "my phone got wet" posts?

Well, i made a poll on weither or not we should have a non HTC section, please go cast your vote there. this way Admin can actually see how many of us there are that use other brands and might change their minds ...
go vote here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417812

We have been trying for ages to get them to do this, it is not going to happen. Trust me.
Thanks for trying though.
Rob

I guess we should be happy they dont delete the thousands of posts in Samsung/HP/Dell/Acer/... cooked ROM threads.

Dedicated forums area for the Zest?

Hello:
I now have a zest - courtest of my wife on my Birthday. I know it is made by ASUS, does anyone know the model? Data on it seems a bit sparse....
Is there likey to be a dedicated area for this PDA on the fornt page of XDA-dev's (like the ones for the wallaby, blue angel etc)? If not, is there any area in particular on the site, where post about this model can be found?
Thanks

I will like to know it also.

only htc made devices get their own forum rules of the site i'm afraid

Rudegar said:
only htc made devices get their own forum rules of the site i'm afraid
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Out of interest: I know historically it has been HTC units that get threads, however, the site is called 'XDA-developers' (not 'HTC-developers') and the zest, even though made by ASUS, is being sold badged as an XDA.....

xda atom is currently the only non htc made device that have it's own forum
why it got it and other o2 devices called xda don't i can't tell you
i don't make the rules
but this forum get money from donations to get server power and space
and the more spec forums and hits from owners it gets the more of a problem
because donations is not really that big an income ask the common beggar
as it is the forum is already often struggling to keep up with the nr of users at rush hour as it is
mind you i say this as my take on it not anything official as i'm just a mod not really
mixed up in such things

flar say the atom got a forum got a because they made it before they realised they were non htc.
as for the zest if you can pm me with the full name (not ythe xda name then ill create a space for it on my forum in my sig

icarusbop said:
Out of interest: I know historically it has been HTC units that get threads, however, the site is called 'XDA-developers' (not 'HTC-developers') and the zest, even though made by ASUS, is being sold badged as an XDA.....
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Historicly all XDAs where from HTC (their own line was called qtek back in the days).
This board was created back in '03 due to dismay from the lack of service HTC gave, there where lots of bugs in the ROMs (some things never change ) and some smart people found out how to get rid of some bugs, and even how to flash the phones.
(no kitchen tools, no packages, just perl scripts and a lot of time..)
XDA-developers grew (in devices and in members), and the XDA brand-name also got popular (due to T-mobile), nowadays a multitude of devices are called XDA, even non HTC produced devices, but that doesn't change the fact that we always have been an HTC only forum.
The one exception: the xda atom was sort of an mistake (initial misinformation), but it was never corrected.
However, look @ HTC which is releasing a massive ammount of devices. It's allmost impossible to also keep up with other devices (just take a look at the quantity of devices allready on this board).
Also check the current active users, and then imagine what that would be if we allow other brands to have their own forum.
The bandwidth would be enormous, and since nobody wants to pay or to donate to this board it would simply die: death by success..
Regards,
EquinoXe

Hi,
I've just got a XDA Zest too. Shame there isn't a section here...
Does anybody know if there is a site for the XDA zest ?
If there are any rom updates or cooked roms about?
Thanks
Gibbo

Why no Palm Pre Section?

I personally would like to see a Pre forum on XDA.
Is anyone with me?

The reason there is not, nor will there ever be a Palm pre section, is because this site simply does not have the resources. It is an HTC only forum because this site cannot afford to support devices from other manufacturers, and every device on here, regardless of brand, was manufactured by HTC (Ericsson X1 and Palm Treo are examples).
There is a thread a couple down from this one, called "iphone-developers.com?" and the last few posts go more in-depth to what I'm saying here. However, if you google "Palm Pre Forum," you will find that there are many possible forums to choose from. Good luck to you,
Dave

Ghost114 said:
I personally would like to see a Pre forum on XDA.
Is anyone with me?
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first post and you are already unhappy with this forum? oh snap.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
The reason there is not, nor will there ever be a Palm pre section, is because this site simply does not have the resources. It is an HTC only forum because this site cannot afford to support devices from other manufacturers, and every device on here, regardless of brand, was manufactured by HTC (Ericsson X1 and Palm Treo are examples).
There is a thread a couple down from this one, called "iphone-developers.com?" and the last few posts go more in-depth to what I'm saying here. However, if you google "Palm Pre Forum," you will find that there are many possible forums to choose from. Good luck to you,
Dave
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A clear, concise and friendly answer - and I even learnt something from it - nicely done
Now why cant we all answer a civil question with a civil answer this way?
I'd suggest a HOWTO thread for xdeviquette but I suspect the "spoon-feeding" may be getting to "chewing-it-for-you" so I'll keep mum

XDA open for non HTC devices? what you think?

With the posibility on the air of opening XDA for non HTC devices, what is your opinion?
Should this go ahead?
Or should we stay only with HTC?
This poll will help Admin & Owners to see what is members opinions, which are very important!
So please vote
See what´s happening here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5335158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206

I'm quite interested about this (of course there aren't too many votes yet, but we'll see)...what do people have against non-XDA phones? If we can maintain the same set of quality ROMs and information, what's the objective?
The XDA admins are beginning to experiment with some non-XDA sections (of course sticking with WinMo and Android), so I hope everything continues to move in that direction.

We should stay HTC. There are a ton of users as it is, and while more would be great, xda is slow now, think of it later. I would love to have other manufacturers, but it works about the same if they are all grouped into the general forum. Or everyone could just have HTC manufacture their device and be done with it.

I would like XDA-Devs to open to also non-HTC-devices. There are several non HTC-devices that are also very interesting, like for instance Xperia X2, Samsung, Toshiba, etc..

Why not? .. unless the traffic could be compromised, otherwise i dont see why not having other WinMo devices sections, like Samsung , Toshiba, and Other windows mobile devices

Besides my HTC phone, I also have a WM Samsung device, and it`s great I can find good info for it here too. So if you can handle the extra users, why not? There are many great smartphone devices from other manufacturers, let`s give them a chance. Competition makes the world evolve.

Of course , yes. I don't have anything against HTC, as 5 of my six WM phones have been HTC but I feel we are more a user community which does not need to be distinguished and divided based on manufacturers.
Also, I feel it will lead to better phones from HTC. Reason, simple - if other brands are allowed here, more people will buy those brands owing to better support leading to increased competition for HTC. Eventually, as users we will get more technology for less

no point of having this post or poll as xda is already a open forum for windows mobile all the while
the name 'xda' came from O2 Xda product line on touchscreen & powered by windows.
when xda atom came along from O2 asia, its already known that its not a htc product but its still listed here.

Not yet...
Not yet. To this date we are still an HTC devices forum, the discussion is open for including non HTC devices and this poll was created to help Owners and Admin to feel the pulse of the members, so it´s important to know what is members opinion

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Not yet. To this date we are still an HTC devices forum, the discussion is open for including non HTC devices and this poll was created to help Owners and Admin to feel the pulse of the members, so it´s important to know what is members opinion
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its is only u who always bring this up

Tabbe said:
its is only u who always bring this up
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Somebody has to do it
If I´m doing something wrong take for sure Mods will let me know

Keep it to WM & Android. Maybe try one other than HTC device forum first before adding others. Then phase them in slowly. To make sure it doesn't get over crowded or unproductive!

Tabbe said:
no point of having this post or poll as xda is already a open forum for windows mobile all the while
the name 'xda' came from O2 Xda product line on touchscreen & powered by windows.
when xda atom came along from O2 asia, its already known that its not a htc product but its still listed here.
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That was actually a mistake made by the admins, and they deemed it unfair to remove the forum after they realized their error. If you notice, other O2 XDA models not made by HTC don't have forums here.

I hope they do decide to go for it. Sure, there are other forums for other manufacturers devices, but NONE of them are even remotely as good as this one.
Take the Acer M900 device as an example. On the ETEN users forum, some ROMS came out for that device, one of which had been built blind, but the chef didn't tell anyone that little tidbit. Now, anyone that burned that ROM is hosed with burning official ROMS as you just get a "ROM Incompatible" error. The only way now is to edit the "magic byte" to burn a ROM, any ROM. Still no fix for it.
If that had happened here, a fix would have been around by now...

It shouldn't even be a question. Who cares which company made the device? If people need help and this forum can do that, then I fail to see why it shouldn't. While I personally prefer HTC devices, I'm open to other being helped in any way possible.
In my opinion, XDA's first non-HTC device should be the Droid.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
That was actually a mistake made by the admins, and they deemed it unfair to remove the forum after they realized their error. If you notice, other O2 XDA models not made by HTC don't have forums here.
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and thats my point, why restrict since by using "xda" and not 'htc'

I hope so
Cuz I am in the mood for a samsung B7620. Not because it is so beautiful, it is completely ugly and I hate Armani, but I realy like the specs on that device. The biggest problem however is the lak of a community like XDA. As HTC is not bringing out any high end devices with qwerty and winmo, TP2 was just a makeover, I feel forced into other directions.

I say stick with HTC. Because once this forum becomes something like Howard Forums, I'm going to leave it forever.
I believe now that forums should be specific to manufacturer, or else chaos and confusion will ensue.

poetryrocksalot said:
I say stick with HTC. Because once this forum becomes something like Howard Forums, I'm going to leave it forever.
I believe now that forums should be specific to manufacturer, or else chaos and confusion will ensue.
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by adding sub forum, what confusion & chaos will it cause to you to leave this forum?
anyway the poll result has the answer

I agree that this forum should include sections for non-HTC WM (and maybe android) devices.
I currently own a samsung jack and it, along with its predecessors - the blackjacks, are probably the most popular non-touchscreen WM phones. Yet they have no dedicated section.
Sever less popular phones on the other hand do have their own sections.
I see very little distinction between any WM phone manufacturers - the software is mostly what matters right?
And I would love it if my Jack had the kind of support my old Gene had around here.