Database Info

Why is this forum just HTC?

This forum is called XDA developers so why are all the phones HTC. I love my XDA's and i will be getting the XDA Zinc when it comes out, how come there is no section for it?

You already said it:
"When it comes out" - the device is not available yet, so I think a proper forum will be created by our admins when it's time for it.

The forums are always created well in advace of the phone actally being released.

XDA history
Whilst the original xda (Wallaby) was an HTC device, the name xda was an O2 name and continues to apply to O2 branded pda's even though manufacturers have changed. If this is, more accurately, an htc-developers forum I can understand them sticking to their guns, but if it is a pda-developers forum I can't.
The Asus MarsII design has been around for a while as the leaked FCC threads have shown. If a MarsII/Zinc folder was going to appear it would have done by now.
Personally, I'd like to see non-HTC folders on here as I like the forum, but it ain't my call. If they don't appear on here, they'll spring up somewhere else as soon as people start buying Zinc's/MarsII's/MDA-whatevers/etc.

i'd post it in the
About xda-developers.com
or request the adm if i were you
my exp is that forum changes comes in bursts and not often
but one problem could be giving the misconception of owners of other devices like LOOX and ipaq and the likes that they could use HTC roms tools and developers exp to fix issues and port roms to their devices because there were forums on the site for their devices
but then that is the case now too
so by giving them their own forum would isolate posts about those devices in their own forums rather then in general
that is ofcause untill ppl got lonely and fustrated from lack of response in their device forum and double posted their "can i unlock my nokia and flash it with WM6 rom" posts

Adding the i780?

Hi all, just as a matter of curiosity, why hasnt the samsung sgh i780 been added to the forums (i know there are people who have added stuff for the i780 here - there just isnt a link from the main page to a forum specifically for the i789)?
I know the forums are generally htc/treo targeted but the i780 is a windows mobile based device which out weighs the tytan 2 in many respects and performs well as a pda/ppc, surely it would be of interest to many to see what rom updates etc you guys could come up with for this great device from the first page?
I am a wizard owner and am upgrading to the i780 - hence the "mandatory" blowing of its horn. I would love to see what you guys come up with as i never make a move on my wizard without first reading up on it here, it would be a pity to start tinckering with the i780 without first cross referencing here on XDA

This is a forum for htc devices only, people have asked for i780 forum before also, but as i said this forum is just for htc devices. You have to look somewhere else for samsung i780 forum (check my signature).

Hmmm... i always thought it was more for windows mobile devices as opposed to focusing on a single brand of phone, cant complain though - everything here is still awesome.
Thanks Sammy, i think this is the first reply i have ever gotten on xda, hence mu low post count . Im checking out your sig now. Thanks again

hmmm, windows mobile is becoming a standard on alot of devices now. maybe they should consider adding a section for other brands since everyone ends up here on this site anyway.
Not to mention at the moment other brands have posts and threads all over the show making it all very messy.
They can simply add a section and call it : Non HTC brands ... will certainly keep the forum neater.
Maybe someone should make a poll and put some pressure on the guys to do it ?

Well, even though i had given up the query i am still inclined to feel that there isnt any reason phones like the i780 arent a featured device.
Sammy said:
This is a forum for htc devices only
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fair enough, but no explanation as to why XDA describes itself as
XDA said:
Community of XDA developers for programming and modding of PDA Cellphone hybrids
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesnt make much sense, it almost implies that htc, palm and treo are the "only" true hybrids... Dont know about anyone else but my i780 whips most of em and makes for a pretty realistic hybrid of phone and pda.
Such as it is though, i am still very appreciative of the people on xda, a lot of time and effort goes into their work - for htc's and whatever else the mobile world pumps out. So essentially if they dont want to waver from pure htc then who am i to argue. Hence i suggested and dropped it.
- by the by, any admins reading this... how do i change my screen name?

yes i would agree with a general samsung phone as there are a few of us here among the HTC user. btw HTC made the hardware for the Palm treo 750 that is why there is a forum for it here.

Along the same lines, Samsung is responsible for the processors in most htc devices.
Im glad someone agrees with me though, even a general "click here for samsung stuff" would be great.

I have a htc like you but I would not be against the idea of a section for other brands

If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.

moneytoo said:
If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol... yeah, i have checked out modaco a few times but the reality of it is that they are just adding links through to xda. Doesn't really help the cause. The thing that makes a forum like this so great is that there are so many dedicated developers "HERE" - why would they want to go somewhere else It is weird however that the developers are obviously interested in developing for other hybrids, so why haven't any of them posed the question? surely its disappointing to see your hard work disappear under tons of "i need a great headset" and "my phone got wet" posts?

Well, i made a poll on weither or not we should have a non HTC section, please go cast your vote there. this way Admin can actually see how many of us there are that use other brands and might change their minds ...
go vote here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417812

We have been trying for ages to get them to do this, it is not going to happen. Trust me.
Thanks for trying though.
Rob

I guess we should be happy they dont delete the thousands of posts in Samsung/HP/Dell/Acer/... cooked ROM threads.

HTC Max 4G Forum?

Hey guys,
Could one of the moderators add a forum for the new HTC Max 4G? I know it's a lot of forums to add, but I think this device looks really promising
thanks

mbarvian said:
Hey guys,
Could one of the moderators add a forum for the new HTC Max 4G? I know it's a lot of forums to add, but I think this device looks really promising
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i second that. i hope it will work on the att network!

I am assuming that because of this models limited release, it won't be getting a dedicated forum.
Could someone please confirm or deny that Blackstone mods and software are compatible with the Max? If so, then the lack of it's own forum won't be as missed considering the ample community surrounding the HD.
Thank you.

Guys
In About XDA-Devs there is a thread called petitions form users to mods
I think this asking should go there, so you´ll have more chances to get their atention
Just a suggestion.

Looks like a great device, but in order to have a forum, you have to actually have people contributing to it. In all the HTC forums that I read regularly , I have only read one post from someone in Russia, who actually has one.
Any others?

Cool device...I've only seen 2 prior threads on it in the HD section & Networking section.

orb3000 said:
Guys
In About XDA-Devs there is a thread called petitions form users to mods
I think this asking should go there, so you´ll have more chances to get their atention
Just a suggestion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first two posts are rather old, the individuals probably weren't aware the device was only being released in Russia. I doubt there are any people actually expecting the Quartz to get a forum of its own at this point.
I simply didn't want to start a new thread for my question, so bumped this one instead. I see where I should have been more clear. Denco7 and Galaxys are correct in their observations that there will likely be little activity directed toward this handset directly. I was just hoping to get some clarification on whether Quartz owners can play with contributions for the HD or not.
In retrospect, starting a new thread in the Blackstone forums would have been more effective.

Consciousness said:
I was just hoping to get some clarification on whether Quartz owners can play with contributions for the HD or not.
In retrospect, starting a new thread in the Blackstone forums would have been more effective.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the original max4g thread that may have some info or you can ask questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461922&highlight=max4g

Two facts.
1. HardSPL available (by cmonex).
2. First cooked ROMs have been tested by 4pda users.
Hope these would be enough for hosting new forum for Quartz users as their activity will definitely boost.

first of all mods can't make new forums only admin can do that
2ed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
this is the forum specific made for such requests

Oh if with gonna have a review this gonan be nice, its a great device.

XDA open for non HTC devices? what you think?

With the posibility on the air of opening XDA for non HTC devices, what is your opinion?
Should this go ahead?
Or should we stay only with HTC?
This poll will help Admin & Owners to see what is members opinions, which are very important!
So please vote
See what´s happening here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5335158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206

I'm quite interested about this (of course there aren't too many votes yet, but we'll see)...what do people have against non-XDA phones? If we can maintain the same set of quality ROMs and information, what's the objective?
The XDA admins are beginning to experiment with some non-XDA sections (of course sticking with WinMo and Android), so I hope everything continues to move in that direction.

We should stay HTC. There are a ton of users as it is, and while more would be great, xda is slow now, think of it later. I would love to have other manufacturers, but it works about the same if they are all grouped into the general forum. Or everyone could just have HTC manufacture their device and be done with it.

I would like XDA-Devs to open to also non-HTC-devices. There are several non HTC-devices that are also very interesting, like for instance Xperia X2, Samsung, Toshiba, etc..

Why not? .. unless the traffic could be compromised, otherwise i dont see why not having other WinMo devices sections, like Samsung , Toshiba, and Other windows mobile devices

Besides my HTC phone, I also have a WM Samsung device, and it`s great I can find good info for it here too. So if you can handle the extra users, why not? There are many great smartphone devices from other manufacturers, let`s give them a chance. Competition makes the world evolve.

Of course , yes. I don't have anything against HTC, as 5 of my six WM phones have been HTC but I feel we are more a user community which does not need to be distinguished and divided based on manufacturers.
Also, I feel it will lead to better phones from HTC. Reason, simple - if other brands are allowed here, more people will buy those brands owing to better support leading to increased competition for HTC. Eventually, as users we will get more technology for less

no point of having this post or poll as xda is already a open forum for windows mobile all the while
the name 'xda' came from O2 Xda product line on touchscreen & powered by windows.
when xda atom came along from O2 asia, its already known that its not a htc product but its still listed here.

Not yet...
Not yet. To this date we are still an HTC devices forum, the discussion is open for including non HTC devices and this poll was created to help Owners and Admin to feel the pulse of the members, so it´s important to know what is members opinion

orb3000 said:
Not yet. To this date we are still an HTC devices forum, the discussion is open for including non HTC devices and this poll was created to help Owners and Admin to feel the pulse of the members, so it´s important to know what is members opinion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its is only u who always bring this up

Tabbe said:
its is only u who always bring this up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Somebody has to do it
If I´m doing something wrong take for sure Mods will let me know

Keep it to WM & Android. Maybe try one other than HTC device forum first before adding others. Then phase them in slowly. To make sure it doesn't get over crowded or unproductive!

Tabbe said:
no point of having this post or poll as xda is already a open forum for windows mobile all the while
the name 'xda' came from O2 Xda product line on touchscreen & powered by windows.
when xda atom came along from O2 asia, its already known that its not a htc product but its still listed here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was actually a mistake made by the admins, and they deemed it unfair to remove the forum after they realized their error. If you notice, other O2 XDA models not made by HTC don't have forums here.

I hope they do decide to go for it. Sure, there are other forums for other manufacturers devices, but NONE of them are even remotely as good as this one.
Take the Acer M900 device as an example. On the ETEN users forum, some ROMS came out for that device, one of which had been built blind, but the chef didn't tell anyone that little tidbit. Now, anyone that burned that ROM is hosed with burning official ROMS as you just get a "ROM Incompatible" error. The only way now is to edit the "magic byte" to burn a ROM, any ROM. Still no fix for it.
If that had happened here, a fix would have been around by now...

It shouldn't even be a question. Who cares which company made the device? If people need help and this forum can do that, then I fail to see why it shouldn't. While I personally prefer HTC devices, I'm open to other being helped in any way possible.
In my opinion, XDA's first non-HTC device should be the Droid.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
That was actually a mistake made by the admins, and they deemed it unfair to remove the forum after they realized their error. If you notice, other O2 XDA models not made by HTC don't have forums here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and thats my point, why restrict since by using "xda" and not 'htc'

I hope so
Cuz I am in the mood for a samsung B7620. Not because it is so beautiful, it is completely ugly and I hate Armani, but I realy like the specs on that device. The biggest problem however is the lak of a community like XDA. As HTC is not bringing out any high end devices with qwerty and winmo, TP2 was just a makeover, I feel forced into other directions.

I say stick with HTC. Because once this forum becomes something like Howard Forums, I'm going to leave it forever.
I believe now that forums should be specific to manufacturer, or else chaos and confusion will ensue.

poetryrocksalot said:
I say stick with HTC. Because once this forum becomes something like Howard Forums, I'm going to leave it forever.
I believe now that forums should be specific to manufacturer, or else chaos and confusion will ensue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
by adding sub forum, what confusion & chaos will it cause to you to leave this forum?
anyway the poll result has the answer

I agree that this forum should include sections for non-HTC WM (and maybe android) devices.
I currently own a samsung jack and it, along with its predecessors - the blackjacks, are probably the most popular non-touchscreen WM phones. Yet they have no dedicated section.
Sever less popular phones on the other hand do have their own sections.
I see very little distinction between any WM phone manufacturers - the software is mostly what matters right?
And I would love it if my Jack had the kind of support my old Gene had around here.

New to the Forum. I Have A Couple of Questions

Hello,
I am brand new to smart phones, Android and this particular forum. I have two questions. Fist question is why are all of the sub-forums listed in a seemingly random manner on the front page? I like a good read as much as the next guy, but holy cow! Isn't there some reasonably simple means to at least shuffle them into alphabetical order or group them by manufacturer or something?
Second question: My phone is a LG L34C (Fuel) and my carrier is TracFone. I have seen this same phone identified as a LG Optimus Zone 2 and yet I find neither of these smart phones referenced anywhere on this forum. Is there another smart phone manufactured by LG which is supported on this forum, or should I simply seek assistance elsewhere?

LordDarkStar said:
Hello,
I am brand new to smart phones, Android and this particular forum. I have two questions. Fist question is why are all of the sub-forums listed in a seemingly random manner on the front page? I like a good read as much as the next guy, but holy cow! Isn't there some reasonably simple means to at least shuffle them into alphabetical order or group them by manufacturer or something?
Second question: My phone is a LG L34C (Fuel) and my carrier is TracFone. I have seen this same phone identified as a LG Optimus Zone 2 and yet I find neither of these smart phones referenced anywhere on this forum. Is there another smart phone manufactured by LG which is supported on this forum, or should I simply seek assistance elsewhere?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, and welcome to XDA! :victory:
Please have a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3160484
Hopefully, that will help you find what you're looking for.
After a quick search, I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lg-l34c-fuel-proper-root-care-t3121876
And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/driver-files-lg-l34c-fuel-windows-t3121936
Also this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791871
The information is available, you just have to search.

Well, thank you for at least replying. I DID read the directions on how to use this precious search engine, so please do NOT insult my intelligence! I honestly found every one of the posts on all 10 pages of results returned about as useful as teats on a boar hog. The one thread that was of ANY interest was a fellow who last year requested that a sub-forum specific to the LG L34C be developed. Obviously no one here felt it was worth their time to even reply to this chap in any meaningful way.
Given the overall lackadaisical appearance of this forum and the fact that few, if any, of the seniors on this site want to do anything about it, one wonders how this forum continues to exist at all.
Evolution_Tech said:
Hi, and welcome to XDA! :victory:
Please have a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3160484
Hopefully, that will help you find what you're looking for.
After a quick search, I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lg-l34c-fuel-proper-root-care-t3121876
And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/driver-files-lg-l34c-fuel-windows-t3121936
Also this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791871
The information is available, you just have to search.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

LordDarkStar said:
Given the overall lackadaisical appearance of this forum and the fact that few, if any, of the seniors on this site want to do anything about it, one wonders how this forum continues to exist at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the best forum iv'e ever saw, don't get frustrated when i started (less than a year ago) it was also very confusing and i felt lost, with the time everything changed, now XDA is my second home!
I love this community will never give it up!!
And you gotta learn something, when someone tells you to use the search button, just carry on! Don't make any issues..
Enjoy it!

LordDarkStar said:
Well, thank you for at least replying. I DID read the directions on how to use this precious search engine, so please do NOT insult my intelligence! I honestly found every one of the posts on all 10 pages of results returned about as useful as teats on a boar hog. The one thread that was of ANY interest was a fellow who last year requested that a sub-forum specific to the LG L34C be developed. Obviously no one here felt it was worth their time to even reply to this chap in any meaningful way.
Given the overall lackadaisical appearance of this forum and the fact that few, if any, of the seniors on this site want to do anything about it, one wonders how this forum continues to exist at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A member helps you with not one, but a few links, and you repay them with insults? Good luck finding anyone to help you with an attitude like that.
And this forum will keep going strong long after you've left the site. I suggest if you don't like it, you log off and find another one. :good:
Thread closed. And more treatment like this towards helpful members ....and we will log you out, so you don't need to.
Darth
Forum Moderator