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New Radio version: 02.47.11

I just finish to download the new radio version for our devices. I can not tell you my impressions about the new radio version, but you can download in Wiki, placed on a folder.

couple of questions on the Radio ROM
1. It looks like it is a G4 Radio ROM. Will it work on the G3 version? If not, where can I find the latest Radio ROM for the G3 version?
2. Does it enable Blackberry Connect support on the Prophet by any chance?
Thanks.

Isn't this the Radio ROM from the Wizard? There is a topic in the Prophet part of the forum that discusses this..
I thought the latest original Radio version for the Prophet was 2.30.21.
I also tried the 2.47.11 on my Prophet. Reception was better, but battery life was drammatic

Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.

Yes I noticed that the reception is much better but at cost of the battery duration. Let me still making more tests about these new Radio.

my radio rom is 2.19.21 how and and how I would get the newst stable?q

The cost is very expensive, at least for me. Just one night, without calls, or touch the Prophet full charge and in the morning the batery meter is almost 26 % less !!!!!!!! Guauuuuu! is to much, you don't think so?
Let me still testing.

Yeah, I already tried this radio rom on my S200 and it drains a lot of batt. I don't recommend it to anyone...
I revert to the other radio rom that is floating around here, but I think that also drains a little more that the official ones....

so which radio rom version we/I should use? And where can I download?

I foud something is not right. When I like to turn the device on, (right button) to make a call phone or make a consult or whatever, the device is dead, so I have to make a soft reset. That's pass me very often, so I decide to revert to other radio version, I mean, to 02.30.21.
My impression about this Radio Version:
Pros: Better signal in all aspect.
Contra: Battery duration, inestable.
So, end of my private testing.

ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.

SecureGSM said:
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
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Hello,
I use a prophet whith an older radio 02.30.11.
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?

I tested this radio ROM long time ago when it was first posted here. But I changed back to 02.30.21 after one day.
It was a terrible experience, the device automatically reset during conversations very often. One day, I had to reset the prophet for more than 10 times!!!!!
So, I went back to 02.30.21 right away. And I also warned others not to install this radio ROM in this forum, too. I can not believe you guys are still so brave to take the risk.

@andrew_sh
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
Yes, that is correct. this bug present in 02.47.xx radio and is fixed in later radios.
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
Good! I have same result on all my test devices.
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I have not meassured it myself. Information in bold is per ... technical documentation

SecureGSM said:
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
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What about the 2.67.90 rom?
Has anyone installed it on a prophet?
Any results?

@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx

SecureGSM said:
@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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Can it be downloaded from somewhere ?
Cheers
hrb

I'm back to radio version 2.30.21 and everything going like a charm, fantastic.

were can I download for my prophet 2.30.21?Mine is still running:
2.19.21

You can find that Radio ROM on the FTP Or use the search...

Radio Rom Poll

Hello guys.I thought that,it would be nice to have a poll,about radio roms.Please choose your Radio Rom,and tell if you had problems with the other ones...

2.69.21 is the best radio rom so far... 2.21.xx or lower was good... but anyting between 2.21.xx and 2.69.21 did not work fine on my Qtek S200 G3... with those roms, I got "phone not ready" problem

I didn't notice any differences beween radio roms
so I left 2.47 - the last radio shipped for prophet

the last Radio shipped 2.61
I';m using now 2.69 it it offical? please some one answer where did you get it
I had some broadcast problems in 2.69 but it was from the net work casue I go back to 2.61 and still have them
the problems I didn't recieve any messages from the channels
2.69 is good one as I'm recieving broadcast

Prophet Radio roms & battery leakage WM6 rom--TEST
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.69. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
WM6 roms used: PDAviet.v.4.0003, TrueNeytral.v.1.4 (Widcomm bluetooth stack+camera4), & TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS (Microsoft Bluetooth stack, without camera4)
WM5 rom used: I-Mate last official WWE release.
Protocol: Same setup for every test. After each flash to new radio, ck to verify correct ver installed, 1 more soft reset, in comm manager verify speaker & phone the only ones turned on, others with X, no running phone or connection as shown by icon on top screen. Screen backlight set on 2nd mark from left. (lowest setting with light)
Used latest BatteryStatus Ext.v.1.04 beta3 release.
Results:
1. PDAviet- leakage remained about 87-92 mA for ALL radios.
2. TrueNeytral.v.1.4- leakage remained about 127-132 mA for ALL radios.
3. The above tests used the standard 1200 mAh battery (batteries used charged no less that 85%). Using High Capacity battery, 1800 mAh, all values were increased at least 50-70 mA, sometimes 120 mA or more! (Battery change protocol same for all, unit turned OFF by long press method. After battery switch, 2 soft resets before testing.)
4. Control- last Imate WM5 rom & radio ( Rom version 2.13.9.23, Radio version 02.20.21.) Leakage about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
5. TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS- leakage remained about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
Conclusion/Comments:
Leakage is probably NOT related to radio roms. Largest contributing factors to leakage I could find were backlight setting & battery mAh used, when Prophet in normal resting state. (Of course, running certain progies will drain battery rapidly.)
The smallest mAh value battery drains (in resting state) I've experienced in PPC/Phone, come from the test WM6 roms of Custel for Hermes.
One trick by mUn rom developer, is to turn off phone, turn phone back on, in Comm Manager, AFTER each GPRS session. It seems to work with mUn WM6 roms for Trinity & the drain is indeed less. However, this does not work for the Prophet WM6 roms I've tried so far.
Finally, beware of the higher leak values produced by High Capacity batteries. In effect, you get longer use time between charges, but the battery drain is disproportional to stock batteries. If you find a HC battery with same leak values as stock, grab it!
The latest WM6 rom I'm testing: TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS

That's cool! very nice information. You're doing like the myth-busters do on Discovery Ch! I thought radio was an important thing cencerning to batt life!
THANKS BRO

DeviLduck said:
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.67. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
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where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical

paradis_pal said:
where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
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Sorry about that, paradis_pal, a typo on my part. I used the 2.69, downloaded from prophet wiki. Thanks for pointing that out.

I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones

paradis_pal said:
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
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Looks like an official radio rom contained in the German T-Mobile release for MDA Vario product. The 2.69 version we're using must be a radio rom extract of this.
Also, the 3.08 radio mentioned in xda forums is from a T-Mobile UK product rom. However, there are so many problems with the 3.08 install on G3 or G4, I'd strongly advise against messing with that one. In addition, the download package is contaminated with a worm/virus according to Avast.
It's very likely, that the 2.47 radio is the best & most stable, in an overall sense. Many people are having problems with the 2.69, but it's hard to know how many of those are using WM6.
Versions:
Rom-Version: 3.8.2.2
Rom-Date: 11/10/06
Radio-Version: 02.69.11
Protcol-Version: 4.1.13.30
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1206215

Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???

tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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That's your download problem I guess. 'Cos the radio rom is actually 2.19 MB to 2.20 MB

tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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the exact size of the nb radio rom is 2621440 bytes = 2.5 MB, a little more bytes in the NBF file usualy 2622464
the defferent size becasue of the compression that is all, look at the uncomressed size

so what's the shipped radio at this moment? is 2.61? right?

Which WM6 has the best battery life?

I have flashed various wm6 and love them all. I am currently running a Tnt buld with touchflo without the cube. I love the rom but it eats up my battery life. I have reflashed it to make sure it was not a corrupt ext rom with no change.
What wm6 rom do you think offers the best battery life. I am tired of charing my phone half way through the day.

What radio are you using? and did you flash a base rom before flashing tnt.
2.19 uses less power then persay radio 2.69

Yes I did flash back to the carrier rom. I am using radio 2.19 as it is suggested for best overall call reception.

best ROM for best battery life?

Whats the best rom to use on my tilt to get the best battery life?

1911luver said:
Whats the best rom to use on my tilt to get the best battery life?
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In my opinion any ROM that has the build 19199.

AllTheWay said:
In my opinion any ROM that has the build 19199.
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In my opinion: not Rom, it's radio version which you use.

of all roms i have try in my kaiser the best one is this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379411

For me I am back for the 5th time to Sleuth V3 for baterry life

hi,
in terms of battery life, the best build is 19199, in my case with niki radio .1.58.16.27...
cheers

For me build 19199 - dutty's.
Radio also affects battery life greatly, but using the same radio with different roms in the last few days 19199 gives the best battery life.
But i have not tested with Dutty's new Hybrid rom launched last night - will be installing that later today.

Does that mean we should flash to old ROM from dutty's Build 19716 to get best battery life ?

dwijadas said:
Does that mean we should flash to old ROM from dutty's Build 19716 to get best battery life ?
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Try it out a see what you think. I just know for me that ROM gave me the best battery life
giangp1 said:
In my opinion: not Rom, it's radio version which you use.
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Yes, but the ROM also has a lot do with it.

I concur - 19199 gave me an IMPRESSIVE increase in battery life, to the point that I stopped downloading other ROMs...

i suggest: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368330
upgraded today...lifetime battery is the best that i've ever seen...(in R0 release, i mean )

This thread has just proven its self to be useless. There are way to many variables, such as rom, radio, location, apps running/installed for someone to give an answer. THis is just a personal preference question. Figure it out for yourself like everyone else has done.
I have a suggestion, flash away until you find one that fits your needs and for the love of GOD, quit making new threads that ask questions that everyone will give answers to based on personal preferences.
Why oh why?

P1Tater said:
This thread has just proven its self to be useless. There are way to many variables, such as rom, radio, location, apps running/installed for someone to give an answer. THis is just a personal preference question. Figure it out for yourself like everyone else has done.
I have a suggestion, flash away until you find one that fits your needs and for the love of GOD, quit making new threads that ask questions that everyone will give answers to based on personal preferences.
Why oh why?
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I think this thread is helpful for newbies like me...

I´m testing the battery lifetime with the help of a tool called BattBench.
First of all, I put the device into flight mode, turn all lights down an then I test rom by rom to see which has the best battery performance, independent from radio, apps etc. (no apps are installed).
I got the best result with Duttys Hybrid rom, right now I´m testing his updated version, if it has the same result as his previous one, I will test this rom by changing radio rom by radio rom.

Dutty's new Hybrid Rom has especially good battery life.

yesterday loaded 19199 Full. the navigation isnt smooth as 19716. is there anything I am missing ?
When I want to scroll thru contacts 19716. I can scroll using my finger itself but 19199 doesnt respond, need to tap every time. I really want to use 19199 but with out the touch sensitivity i think its really hard to take out the stylus everytime to tap.
Any idea how to make the touch screen more responsive ?

Rom for best battery life

im using Crossbow Reloaded because i read that it was good in battery life which i need
but i also read that Core 2.0n is also good in battery life
WHAT IS THE BEST ROM FOR BATTERY LIFE????

Avoidt using GSM 3.xxx & above

Basically WM 6.1 has good battery life btw u can try these rom's having verygood battery life
TNT the .19XXXX series and .20XXX series by ITS RIGHT
AMP v2 by CHARACTER
xda2haseeb's wm 6.1 roms also has good battery life
Also you can enable power management by advanced config tool which improves battery life and some rom's comes with all the power management enabled by default.

Battery life depends on what ROM and applications you are running with it! Mostly it is user dependent, and location too! So just keep trying different ROM until you find the one it matches your needs.

I have Final Final Angel by RoryB/SVI
I just loaded Final Final Angel by SVI/RoryB. - OS (no IPL/SPL) and have radio rom 2.71.11
Is it a good one?

squidrocks said:
I just loaded Final Final Angel by SVI/RoryB. - OS (no IPL/SPL) and have radio rom 2.71.11
Is it a good one?
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I have the same device and so far this RADIO has least missed calls and good battery life. I'm using WM 6.5
Good luck!

radichev said:
I have the same device and so far this RADIO has least missed calls and good battery life. I'm using WM 6.5
Good luck!
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Thanks for the info Radichev. Can you tell me if the OS that you are using is good and fast? So far the one I have 6.1 pro is fast and good.

im using the rom called FINAL FINAL ANGEL
its really good

squidrocks said:
Thanks for the info Radichev. Can you tell me if the OS that you are using is good and fast? So far the one I have 6.1 pro is fast and good.
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It's fast but hasn't got much extras. However, it has around 30Mb free RAM so it's useful for web browsing and other "memory eaters". I recommend you to try Cracing or XDA2 roms, both good, on my device the Cracing was faster, but it also depends on the build. Try any of them, you can easily change it if you don't like it.
P.S. I've never tried WM 6.1 so I can't say anything about it. It may be better in some way but I don't know.
Good luck!