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Cingular 8125 / MDA ? Thinking about buying it but have ?'s

I have been a Treo 650 user with cingular for 18 months now and have been happy with it. I have experimented with lots of the software available for download and enjoyed that a lot to. I have been looking for another phone and I just found a post by treonaut on the treo web site all about the MDA. The post was very good and has my attention but still I am very new to this MDA phone and am looking for some info. On the Cingular web site i found the model 8125 and am very interested in that cell. I think the 8125 is an MDA type cell, not sure if the MDA is a particular model or a catagory type cell. Next, as with the Treo 650 there is tons of software downloads to play with and experiment. Is there any software out to do the same with for these MDA cells? In particular the 8125? If so, ware do I find it all? I have been useing the xWeather program for my Treo and would hate to have to give it up along with many other programs that I use on my Treo. Next, are the sim cards the same? Can i use one from my 650 in the 8125 type MDA cell? OK, no more questions for now, I will stop here. I would really like to buy the 8125 after reading what treonaut had to say but will not jump. Thanks for any help offered ...

To answer your questions:
1. Cingular 8125=Tmobile MDA=HTC Wizard with each having very minor modifications.
2. Tons of software are also available for download for the 8125. All that stuff you saw in my review I did with built-in software or with freebies. I also have a program that puts the weather data on my Today page. To date, I have not bought a single WM5 program. Search xda-developers in the Wizard section. Also read the very good MDA and 8125 faqs over at howardforums.com. In general any program designed for Windows Mobile 5 (WM5) and the ARM processor should work with this series of devices. So do a google search for goodies.
3. Sims remain the same. I sometimes swap sims between the MDA and the 650 without a problem.
4. Check out Amazon.com for better pricing on the 8125/MDA.

Thanks very much for the info. I will check it out and most likely get the 8125 soon.. I want to make sure I know ware to get all the extra programs and understand how to install them. I have no clue about what cables i will need to hook it to my notebook and what software i will need to use to install things. The Treo is easy to install things with the Palm one quick install program so I need to find out what to use to do these things yet. Thanks again.

Wait and buy the 8525. It is coming in few weeks
400MHz processor
HSDPA
Etc..

Just made a deal with Cingular for a new 8125 with my corporate discount for 200 bucks. I will have same number and my 450 roll over plan with the unlimited data package for the same 53 bucks a month. It was a good deal so I took it. Now to find all the tricks and goodies

T-mobile MDA vario or Cingular 8125???

1-) I've been using T-mobile MDA vario for 4 months. I love it. Now, I want to buy the same phone for my sister. However, I am not sure which one to buy. Cingular 8125 or T-Mobile Mda vario. As far as I know they are pretty much the same phones, however, there might be some littlie difference that I don't know. If anyone know what the differences are please help me to choose. (differences not including the appearences of the phones)
2-) I am also not sure why Mda costs a little bit more than the 8125.(compared prices at ebay) I would appreciate if someone could explain me this point too.

ok, the reason the 8125 cost less then the MDA is because theres the 8525 out now for cingular, therefore people dont want the old stuff, they want the new stuff...whereas the MDA's successor hasnt come out in the US so MDA is the only one of its kind...now as for the differences besides the body, the device is CID and SIM locked to Cingular, but you can change that buy unlocking it...umm no other differences, besides that MDA and 8125 come in G3 and G4...

Malik05 said:
ok, the reason the 8125 cost less then the MDA is because theres the 8525 out now for cingular, therefore people dont want the old stuff, they want the new stuff...whereas the MDA's successor hasnt come out in the US so MDA is the only one of its kind...now as for the differences besides the body, the device is CID and SIM locked to Cingular, but you can change that buy unlocking it...umm no other differences, besides that MDA and 8125 come in G3 and G4...
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Thanks for the reply. I am not sure about the last thing you said. DO you say that MDA always comes in G3 and the 8125 comes with G4?
If not, then is there any way to determine if the phone is G3 or G4 when buying it? I mean I can find out if it is G3 or G4 if I use and see the phone, however, when buying it online I don't have an opportunity to look at IPL and SPL.
I personally would like G3, since there much less problems with it when flashing a ROM.

im saying that both devices can come in both G4 or G3...a G4 device will show an IPL/SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 will show something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!) and u can see this when u do a softreset on the device, the numbers will show up in the top left in red....

Malik05 said:
im saying that both devices can come in both G4 or G3...a G4 device will show an IPL/SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 will show something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!) and u can see this when u do a softreset on the device, the numbers will show up in the top left in red....
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Yes, but if I am buying the device online, I can't check if it is G3 or G4 before I buy it, right?

im afraid not, unless you are getting it from eBay or something, you can ask the seller to check for you

danik_iceman said:
1-) I've been using T-mobile MDA vario for 4 months. I love it. Now, I want to buy the same phone for my sister. However, I am not sure which one to buy. Cingular 8125 or T-Mobile Mda vario. As far as I know they are pretty much the same phones, however, there might be some littlie difference that I don't know. If anyone know what the differences are please help me to choose. (differences not including the appearences of the phones)
2-) I am also not sure why Mda costs a little bit more than the 8125.(compared prices at ebay) I would appreciate if someone could explain me this point too.
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Why do we have two threads started by you on this? grrr. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1197867#post1197867
--M

I don't know if you would call my opinion more of looks as it is "functionality". But you have a MDA, so i think you could relate:
The keyboard on the MDA is by far more efficient to use than the 8125 (sorry 8125 owners). The buttons are separated and aren't merged together. The tactile buttons on the face of the device are more convenient, because they are easily accessible with the fingers. Unlike the 8125 which are small and on the four corners, the MDA has larger buttons, great for those who have small or big fingers
However, software/roms will operate the same on both devices, as roms are built for either devices.
I owned the MDA before, and I recently purchased the NEW 8525. The 8525 very much reminds me of the 8125 keyboard, as all the keyboard buttons are touching (really annoying). Also, there is no quotation key (") on the keyboard which i use during text messages when i'm quoting someone. Personally, if they could hyrbidize the MDA keyboard with the speed of the 8525 I would be one happy guy!
(please read above carefully, do not mix my comments about the 8125 with 8525)

Cingular Refurbish G3
fyi... i just got a cingular 8125 (refurbished version) off the website. it is the G3 version. not sure if they are all that way though....

T-Moble to update WM6 for the DASH

I hope this mean there is more to come form T-Mobile for us Wizard users.

I hope so too

The Dash Wm6 rom was leaked awhile ago.

T-Mobile no longer cares about the MDA, now that they have the "Wing" coming soon which should have WM6 from the start. They even removed the MDA from their website, kinda leaving all us MDA users to cope for ourselves.

Wow this is so old...

There are WM6 upgrade for Wizard in T-mobile on May 4, anyone tested it yet? please upload it

rookery said:
There are WM6 upgrade for Wizard in T-mobile on May 4, anyone tested it yet? please upload it
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I downloaded it last night. but as I dont have a dash, no idea if it works or not. I will try and upload it tonight

rookery said:
There are WM6 upgrade for Wizard in T-mobile on May 4, anyone tested it yet? please upload it
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If you have an T-Mobile acct, you should be able to login and change your phone, then go to support and it should allow you to download it.

is it for wizard or for Dash, The wizard isn't even on the t-mobile website anymore.

Can you install this in a wizard or is that stupid. Cingular also released a rom for an 8525 the other day. The 8525 was an upgrade to the 8125 right, so does anyone know if that rom may work on the wizard????
NBD 10.2.0.8
2.19 radio rom
ipl/spl 2.26

8525 (hermes) and 8125 (wizard) are very different when it comes to roms, you couldn't just try to use that rom on a wiz..
someone could possible use a hermes rom to make a wm6 rom for the wizard.... but thats about it

killerkhatiby009 said:
is it for wizard or for Dash, The wizard isn't even on the t-mobile website anymore.
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Read topic... I Would say Dash....
They are trying to get the release for the dash to work on wiard.

I dont know if anyone has seen this but T-mobile has posted WM6 upgrades for both the Dash and Wizard http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Does anyone know whether or not this will work on the Cingular 8125?

catalystic said:
I dont know if anyone has seen this but T-mobile has posted WM6 upgrades for both the Dash and Wizard http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Does anyone know whether or not this will work on the Cingular 8125?
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Update for MDA has the date of 2006, so it's not a new update.
The new update is only for Dash.

KarmaNP said:
Update for MDA has the date of 2006, so it's not a new update.
The new update is only for Dash.
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Thats really sucks, does anyone know if T-Mobile will ever come out with an update to the Wizard?

catalystic said:
I dont know if anyone has seen this but T-mobile has posted WM6 upgrades for both the Dash and Wizard http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Does anyone know whether or not this will work on the Cingular 8125?
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The dash upgrade is wm6, the MDA is wm5 IPL/SPL 2.26.
But yes you can use mda version on the 8125. I have used it to flash back to wm5 after trying some wm6 cooked versions.
rom 10.2.0.8 wwe by nbd
radio 2.19.11

MDA upgrade
yeah, the upgrade is called the " Wing ".

or the XDA terra - because it is an HTC p4350 aka HTC herald
and
nearly all is similar to wizard:
registry
apps
button
etc.
omap 850
You even can use Batterystatus.
And it has WM6 on it but in german.

When will the stable WM6 US T-mobile Rom be out?

When will the WM6 US T-mobile Rom be out? All of the WM6 Roms now have the miss call issue. Even with Radio:2.19, It works ok if I stay at one place. But if I was driving my car, I missed some incoming call. I hope someone will release a WM6 Rom which can work with the:
IPL:2.26 or higher
SPL:2.26 or higher
Radio:2.25 or higher.

When I spoke to a T-Mobile Rep they told me that I would have to upgrade to a phone that has WM6 existing on it in order to update. Hence that is the reason I CID and SIM unlocked my phone. I'm not going to buy a WING when my MDA does everything it will do, that is a pointless upgrade, not to mention I like my keyboard better and the WING doesn't have flash. So the upgrade is pointless.

It will be out never
you will have to buy a n model. I would also debate whether or not a providers rom is actually stable.

It all depends on were you live and what radio will work like i use 2.69 and i don't get missed calls while i do with 2.19

Yeah when I was at the tmobile store today changing my plan around they told me that they would not be releasing WM6 for the MDA and I'd have to buy a wing if I wanted wm6

Having a little experience trying to port the Wing OEM modules to the Wizard, I can assure you that the official T-Mobile ROM is as bloated as any dead, African hippo that ever graced the pages of Nat. Geo. and it's not too stable either.

jwzg said:
Having a little experience trying to port the Wing OEM modules to the Wizard, I can assure you that the official T-Mobile ROM is as bloated as any dead, African hippo that ever graced the pages of Nat. Geo. and it's not too stable either.
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half the roms here are bloated

I agree ANTC, but that one is even more so.

Windows Mobile 6.1 for a Q9c from Centennial in PR

Hi.
This is my first post on the forum.
Does any any one of you know how to upgrade to WM6.1. I check in the Motorola webpage, but the for the company they don't has any upgrade yet.
I try with the upgrade for Verizon and T-Mobile, but the program said that there's any upgrade for the moment.
I apprecite you're help.
I'm new to the Q9c.
Regards

My Q9c came with WM6.1; how old is yours?
I'm just looking to make mini-weather or something like it work for me. I'm on Sprint. And I too am on my first "smart" phone, although it doesn't seem too smart yet...

I buy the phone on January 9. The company is Centennial in Puerto Rico.
Now they sell the phone with WM6.1 and they said to check on the web page of Motorola. They don't work with any upgrade.
What a wonderfull customer service department. They don't know nothing.

1st time poster looking for a solution to get tcpmp to work on wm6.1 moto q9c...
Try going to http://www.mobile-files.com and search the cdma/motorola forum for the firmware you need. I upgraded my VRZ Q9c from that site.