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Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forums, but after running into you guys every time I try and google something related to my Treo 750, I wanted to share my two cents.
I've been looking for a way to stop the "automatic activesync" thing that everyone seems to be complaining about. I have a new Treo 750 running WM6out of the box. Everything I've seen has not worked, short of totally killing activesync entirely.
Now, I can't guarantee that it works, or that it's safe and has no other side effects! Use your own judgement, I'm by no means a Treo or WM6 expert.
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1) Install RegEdit on the Treo
I found the tool on another thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273693
You put it on the treo itself, and run from the treo too.
You can't use Mobile Registry Editor for this. You get "Access Denied" errors on the key. You have to run this prog directly from the Treo.
2) Edit registry entry on treo:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ActiveSync\Engines\{guid}\Settings\SyncAfterTimeWhenCradled
The original value is 5 (5 minutes? Like how often ActiveSync seems to run? hmmm!). If you change it to 0, it will revert back to 5. Instead, change it to something like 300.
Then SOFT RESET THE TREO! Changes don't take effect until you restart windows, remember the old days?
3) Edit this registry entry on your COMPUTER:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Partners\#####\Services\Synchronization\Continuously Update
Set it to 0. This is the fix that didn't work anymore, I dunno if it has anything to do with anything but I set it and it didn't destroy anything
So, now what will happen is you'll plug in your Treo. It will sync ONCE. Then it should shut up and not sync anymore until you click the Sync button. I think the "automatic syncing" was the activesync on the TREO's doing, not the activesync in windows. It's that WM6 registry entry that controls how often it goes. I presume now, the Treo WILL sync five hours from now since I set my setting to 300, but I'm sure you can set it to 999 or something and get a sufficiently long time that it really doesn't matter.
As we speak, my Treo has been plugged into the USB charger for a good 15 minutes while I wrote this post, and it hasn't woken up or done anything!
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Here's one other thing. If you go into the registry on your COMPUTER:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Partners\#####\Services\Synchronization\Enable Sync
And set that to 0, when you plug in the Treo it will pop up an error saying that it couldn't sync the device and see the windows troubleshooter for more info. Then it signs you on as a "guest" on the Treo. I imagine you could make a REG file or something that turns this on or off.
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Oh, an update, it appears when I go into the sync options in ActiveSync on the computer and enable syncing "Media", e.g. windows media player library... it syncs continuously all the time forever. The "Media" part of the sync progress seems to behave differently on its own.
I guess syncing media is different? I dunno. Try it with it turned off.
Thanks a lot.
Can we have at least one week. So 300 = 5 hours. 24 hours = 1,440 while one week is 10,080. Is this gonna work or not ?
Have you tried setting up an exchange server account?
What I have done was to go into...
Programs>Active Sync>Menu>Configure Server.
At which point it will ask you for Server Info...\Type in...
"fake" then next
User Name & Password can also be "fake">next
then uncheck all the boxes.
Once you do this the "Schedule" & "Options" menus should be available.
Click on Schedule & change the settings to "Manually"
& check off "Use above settings when roaming"
This will have your treo only open active sync when starting EVDO, Soft Resetting, Connecting to your computer directly or when you start Active Sync ONLY.
Try it & let me know...
via startup folder and reg file
Hi all,
I've triend the above-mentioned fake server trick and it did not work for me (HTC Touch Cruise 2009 running Windows Mobile 6.1). ActiveSync kept coming on after a soft restart (the 'reboot, if you will) - it was driving me crazy. (In all honesty, it should be mentioned that I do not think AS chews up much battery power, memory and/or processor clock cycles, but I just absolutely, positively hate it when programs start themselves up on my (P)PC. I like to be in control!
As mentioned, I've triend the fake server trick to no avail, and I've tried disabling the notification in the notification queue as well - no permanent result, since the entries there seem to be regenerated by some other application. I ended up with several duplicate entries (which were easily removed, but nonetheless, this doesn't seem to be the best way of going about).
Anyway, it seems I've finally found a synthesis of all kinds of help available here on XDADEV (I've been lurking in here for a while) that actually seems to kill off ActiveSync's automatic starting. I am posting this from work in the hospital, so it's a quickie, but bear with me and I'll give proper credit when I can finally attribute at (while at home).
Usual disclaimer: registry editing is bliss, but when you ***** up, it may be that you have to do a hard reset and several hours of work
All revolves around the entry in the registry at:
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/ActiveSync
which has an entry called "KeepAlive" (which is valued 1 for 'yes'). Now, if I change this to 0 (for 'no'), ActiveSync doesn't start itself any longer. However, this registry entry resets itself again upon starting ActiveSync(sigh). So, I made a reg file that writes the 'correct' value for KeepAlive and pu a link to it in the /Windows/Startup folder on my device. The reg file is very simple, it only contains:
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync]
"KeepAlive"="0"
which makes it perfect for me: less risks for typos and stuff
You can put the reg file in the /Windows/Startup folder (or 'Opstarten' as it called on my device since I have a Dutch ROM) or put it in the Programs folder and drop a link to it in /Windows/Startup. That way, it runs every time you boot and in my case, this seems to hold off AS for a while. As said before, the registry key resets itself upon starting AS. I'll research a bit more and the above works in combination with the reg file, and that should put AS out of business. (Maybe the above works even on its own?)
Have fun, take care.
Marty
MartyHulskemper said:
Hi all,
I've triend the above-mentioned fake server trick and it did not work for me (HTC Touch Cruise 2009 running Windows Mobile 6.1). ActiveSync kept coming on after a soft restart (the 'reboot, if you will) - it was driving me crazy. (In all honesty, it should be mentioned that I do not think AS chews up much battery power, memory and/or processor clock cycles, but I just absolutely, positively hate it when programs start themselves up on my (P)PC. I like to be in control!
As mentioned, I've triend the fake server trick to no avail, and I've tried disabling the notification in the notification queue as well - no permanent result, since the entries there seem to be regenerated by some other application. I ended up with several duplicate entries (which were easily removed, but nonetheless, this doesn't seem to be the best way of going about).
Anyway, it seems I've finally found a synthesis of all kinds of help available here on XDADEV (I've been lurking in here for a while) that actually seems to kill off ActiveSync's automatic starting. I am posting this from work in the hospital, so it's a quickie, but bear with me and I'll give proper credit when I can finally attribute at (while at home).
Usual disclaimer: registry editing is bliss, but when you ***** up, it may be that you have to do a hard reset and several hours of work
All revolves around the entry in the registry at:
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/ActiveSync
which has an entry called "KeepAlive" (which is valued 1 for 'yes'). Now, if I change this to 0 (for 'no'), ActiveSync doesn't start itself any longer. However, this registry entry resets itself again upon starting ActiveSync(sigh). So, I made a reg file that writes the 'correct' value for KeepAlive and pu a link to it in the /Windows/Startup folder on my device. The reg file is very simple, it only contains:
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync]
"KeepAlive"="0"
which makes it perfect for me: less risks for typos and stuff
You can put the reg file in the /Windows/Startup folder (or 'Opstarten' as it called on my device since I have a Dutch ROM) or put it in the Programs folder and drop a link to it in /Windows/Startup. That way, it runs every time you boot and in my case, this seems to hold off AS for a while. As said before, the registry key resets itself upon starting AS. I'll research a bit more and the above works in combination with the reg file, and that should put AS out of business. (Maybe the above works even on its own?)
Have fun, take care.
Marty
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Can you tell me what program to make the REG file? because I tried Notes but it make the *.PWI format?
TIA
The ultimate solution.
Ok here's what you do. The fake exchange server solution never worked for me.
First of all you need FdcSoft's Task Manager program. It is the best and a must have.
Use the Notifications editor to disable the repllog.exe for RunAfterTimeChange.
Use the registry editor to go to [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync] Change the KeepAlive value to 0. Tap and hold "KeepAlive" (or go to file menu) and select "Export...". (not Export All) Save this .reg file in the \\Windows\StartUp folder or save it somewhere else and copy it there.
Now you will need Ghisler's Total Commander.
Using Total Commander, browse to \\Windows\Startup folder or wherever you saved .reg file. (Windows mobile doesn't automaticaly know that .reg file should be opened with TaskMgr so you have to associate it.)
Tap and hold your .reg file and select Properties. Select "Associate" tab. Tap gray box that says "Associate..."
In "Command:" box browse to the folder where TaskMgr.exe is. (\Program Files\FdcSoft\TaskMgr\TaskMgr.exe)
In "Parameter:" box leave the "%1" there, and type "/silent" right after. ("%1/silent") This will keep a dialog box from poping up on start up.
"Ok" everything and you're done! Enjoy.
Hey
I've got this ASUS smartphone I'm giving away (its got a cracked screen) - and because its ASUS I cant flash it.
Is there a way to wipe the Messages, Contacts and email settings through activesync, I can see program files windows dirs etc...?
Thanksn
you can hard reset it. just search for the combination of how to hard reset your asus and you'll be ok.
The only way for this phone is through the phone interface of which I cannot access (http://www.hardreset.eu/asus_p750_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html)
Doesn't make sense. there's always a way to hard reset using the Hardware buttons only since a Hardreset is supposed to solve the issue of having problems using your touchscreen or the Interface in general. find it .. and you're ok
Are you saying theres nothing I can do with remote filesystem access through activesync.
if you go to active sync and uncheck the sync options for contacts, callender and emails, doesnt this wipe them off the device?
The other option in to rename the pim file on the device to something else, soft reset, then you can delete the pim file. worked for me when i lent out my prophet to a mate for a while (although i didnt delete the file, just hid it out of prying eyes
yup, these are good options as well.
when you sync with nothing it erases everything. messages and call history won't be wiped.. for messages you can rename cemail.vol and pim.vol and then delete them.
tho if your screen is cracked.. i see no reason why not to save yourself the trouble and just hard reset
yh thats true
there should be a way to hard reset using clear storage in software, unless the screen is dead dead and cant be used... (or is that just wm6? its been a while since i used wm5 lol)
you can hard reset using software in WM5 to my knowledge.. but he can't since his screen can't be used (as far as i understand).
if he can still sync, might be able to use my mobiler to access the functions on the device whilst synced via the computer, goto clear stoarge and activate it... should work... long winded yes lol, but short of knowing how to hardware reset i dont know.
So I'm using the native PPC calendar (WM 6.1), mostly because I really do not need anything more fancy. I like it's simplicity and the today plugin is a must for me.
There are two things that annoy me though:
1. When I have an upcoming even alert, there is a snooze option. However, I can only snooze it: 5 minutes, 10 mintes, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 1 day. Is there any way to modify these selection. Ie. if I wan to snooze 4 hours there is no other way but to snooze 1 hour, and repeat 4 times after the hour have passed. Really annoying.
2. Any way to disable alerts during calls?
3. Is there any app that would work in mass storage device mode NOT IN ACTIVE SYNC MODE, that would allow me to modify the calendar entries from my PC.
What I mean is that I would like to connect the phone as mass storage and somehow open calendar entries file (of course it would have to be somehow moved first from the main drive to the storage card first, of course), and modify entries on with PC keyboard.
I do not want any syncing programs. I've had enough with them. Entering the file directly on the phone would be the best option for me. I do it like this with my to do lists created with Listpro program and all my syncing problems disappeared. If I want to do some major to do list editing I stick my phone into the cradle in mass storage mode, open Listpro app on my PC (listpro has PC and PPC app) and edit the list directly on the phone.
P.S. I hope I am not duplicating subject ... had some problems with connection
Anyone???????????
Is this forum dead?
Hi, I have a huge problem with my Touch Pro atm.
Ok, today my Touch Pro with TAEL 23683 started doing strange things. First Sence got some how bugged, it wasn't able to start, but I also wasn't able to turn it off, all I was able to see was "Tap to load HTC Sence" and when I tap, it blinks 3-5 times "Loading HTC Sence..." and again the Tap to load line. I made hard-reset and here's where the big problem comes. I copied back pim.vol (I backed-up just before making hard-reset, I was able to load Resco Explorer to do that) but my contacts aren't shown in the list in "All Contacts" on Sence. the Windows build in Contact manager was crashing w/o message. I managed with deleting and copying the pim.vol to open and see the contacts in the build in manager, but Sence still shows nothing. On top of that I can't add/delete/open contact in the build in manager, if I try, the manager crashes, and after restart I can't open it anymore. I can't make ActiveSync connection, it says "Error", I tried making back-up of the contacts with PIM Backup but it gave error that it can't connect to the Outlook Database. What can I do, I don't have older back-up or if I do it's 5+ months old which isn't good option (but I think I deleted them from my PC). Any suggestions are welcome, I want to be able to use my device normally again
Have a look at these threads;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310152
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281421
You could also try using the PIM.vol on windows 6.5 emulator.
About time we had a PIM viewing/editing PC app !
The problem is that it seems pim.vol is corrupted, ROM is the same, I tried by reflashing it again (the same image I used before) and still nothing. PIM editing tool would be nice, eventually it may rewrite the data and fix the issue.
I haven't used manila in a long time, but as I recall, you need to shut manila down before over-writing pim.vol. Otherwise, you end up in re-boot cycles like that. I remember it happening once to me where the device would be fine until I went to the contact tab and tried to access a contact. Then it would crash, and be impossible to use.
So, you have three choices:
1. Don't use Sense. It's total crap, anyway.
2. Try turning Sense off, then restore pim.vol. Do a soft reset. Then re-load Sense, and watch all your ram and processor power disappear.
3. Use a different backup utility. I've found that SK Tools does a very good job with restoring pim info. It's better than pimbackup, imo.
use task 29 before flashing the rom. Did you sync with outlook on the PC? So you should have a copy of your data ...
Task 29's not going to help. The problem is that Sense/Manila throws a hissy fit any time you sneeze in its direction. It can't handle having pim.vol over-written while it is running. I guess if effs up the contact tab. But as I recall, the only way to restore your contact photos was to restore pim.vol directly. Pimbackup doesn't restore the favorite contact photos (I think sk tools might, though). You just have to get the process down correctly, in order to avoid the hissy fit.
You're better off just disabling that sense crap permanently, though. It's just a giant band-aid, anyway.
Ok
1) I don't have Outlook installed (not even Outlook Express)
2) With overwritten pim.vol I can't make ActiveSync connection
3) I make back-up by copy pim.vol for 2-3 years already
4) I only have PIMBackup but it doesn't connect to the corrupted pim.vol so I can't make back-up with it
5) I flash ROMs from SD card, and I do format with RAPHDIAG.nbh before flashing new ROM with RAPHIMG.nbh
6) I only have the corrupted pim.vol so I can't make new back-up from it, I can only make attempts to fix the one I have.
Are you sure that it's corrupted? Can you copy it to another location (like on your sd card) w/o getting an error? It shouldn't have a problem if you can copy it.
Try scanning your sd card. You can also try to export the data from it with a database editor. If you have SK Tools, you may be able to open the database using the database tool and the 'mount volume' command. Or, you can try Phatware's Pocket Database Editor and see if you can open it up (I've opened copies of pim.vol on my sd card with each in the past, but sometimes it doesn't work).
Edit: Phatware opens it up fine, and you can copy things out to another database. SK Tools will open it if you rename it (like to pim2.vol).
I had no problem copying it using Resco, I also copied it on 2 different SD cards, both copies act the same. I found the problem after I made hard-reset and copied back in root folder, where phone should start using it. I actually use command in SDConfig.txt to copy it, it always worked before, and worked last time I flashed that ROM, now I only made hard-reset (first, then made re-flash of same ROM). I'll try with the tools you said.
I wouldn't do it with sdconfig.txt; if Sense is already loaded, you'll run into major problems. You really need to disable Sense in the Home Items settings, then do the over-write with Resco, soft-reset, and then re-activate Sense.
Restoring pim.vol is weird. I don't use manila, and I use a mortscript that restores pim.vol and a bunch of other files during customization. For a while, it worked great, and I would have all my contacts restored after first boot. But it hasn't worked in ~6 months for me. I have no idea why. I have also found that it's important to reset immediately after doing the over-write. Sometimes, if I wait a while, the over-write won't 'stick' after the soft reset, and I'll have blank contacts, or worse, when I try to open the contacts, the device will freeze for 15-20 seconds. So now, after customization runs, I do the restore manually and then soft reset immediately, and it's always worked fine. It's a faster process than using a backup utility, so I prefer doing it this way.
I also keep other types of backups. I have a few pimbackup copies (never use them, but keep them just in case), and nightly I have a script that runs sk tools pim backup. Every once in a while, I'll also load myphone and backup my pim info there. You need to have more than one backup just in case something happens, like your sd card fails.
Well, Mortscript is executed later than SDConfig, and actually I think the one I use makes the customizations before Sence run for the first time. Anyway, for more than an year that copy method works, and it worked on that ROM 3 times just fine, just till now there wasn't corrupted DB file to copy (problem caused before backing it up, not after copy back). I found 2 bad records in my Contacts database with PhatWare, looking for ideas how to delete them, Phatware DB Explorer crashes when I select them and I can't delete them.
Well, at least you're getting somewhere. You should maybe just trying to copy all the databases into an empty pim.vol except for the two that are bad. I've never really copied stuff out from one database to another with that tool, but it might work.
Unf I can't, thought about that too but no such option, I have only for full table, but it crashes because of the 2 bad records.
Any ideas about PC DB tool that can open them, I hope it won't crash on bad records and have a bit more options (I think I'll need one for DBs, not related to PPC that much)
I don't know about a pc-side editor.
You could just try exporting each of the databases to csv files, and then see if you ca re-import them to a clean pim.vol.
I can't export them, it stops while it get to the records with errors and the file size is 0 bytes.
Guess no one has more ideas :/
I had to RMA my previous phone, so after I got my new phone I set it up. My old phone worked just fine, just the headphone jack didn't work.
However, my new phone cannot open any office files. If I go to the office app, it doesn't load any notebooks...it just says it is finding notebooks but nothing happens. It does load word and excel files though...however, I can't open up those files when I click on them. The phone downloads the file, but nothing happens afterwards. Blank screen.
Now, if I perform a soft reset and use SkyDrive, I can navigate and open up my files from there. However, if I try to open up a file using office first, fail, and then try to open up the file with SkyDrive then it will then fail.
I have tried resetting office multiple times, and renamed personal (web) , and even moved that file to another location. Still the same problem. Weirdly enough, even if I rename or move personal (web), the office app does not recreate the notebook.
Short version: Office refuses to load files and sync properly on new phone even with soft resets of phone and office.
Listerine said:
I had to RMA my previous phone, so after I got my new phone I set it up. My old phone worked just fine, just the headphone jack didn't work.
However, my new phone cannot open any office files. If I go to the office app, it doesn't load any notebooks...it just says it is finding notebooks but nothing happens. It does load word and excel files though...however, I can't open up those files when I click on them. The phone downloads the file, but nothing happens afterwards. Blank screen.
Now, if I perform a soft reset and use SkyDrive, I can navigate and open up my files from there. However, if I try to open up a file using office first, fail, and then try to open up the file with SkyDrive then it will then fail.
I have tried resetting office multiple times, and renamed personal (web) , and even moved that file to another location. Still the same problem. Weirdly enough, even if I rename or move personal (web), the office app does not recreate the notebook.
Short version: Office refuses to load files and sync properly on new phone even with soft resets of phone and office.
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You just need to reset Office in Configuration->Applications->Office->Reset. I had to restart the phone before it did let me to reset Office.
After that it was just simply a matter of synchronize the files.