Hi, I have a huge problem with my Touch Pro atm.
Ok, today my Touch Pro with TAEL 23683 started doing strange things. First Sence got some how bugged, it wasn't able to start, but I also wasn't able to turn it off, all I was able to see was "Tap to load HTC Sence" and when I tap, it blinks 3-5 times "Loading HTC Sence..." and again the Tap to load line. I made hard-reset and here's where the big problem comes. I copied back pim.vol (I backed-up just before making hard-reset, I was able to load Resco Explorer to do that) but my contacts aren't shown in the list in "All Contacts" on Sence. the Windows build in Contact manager was crashing w/o message. I managed with deleting and copying the pim.vol to open and see the contacts in the build in manager, but Sence still shows nothing. On top of that I can't add/delete/open contact in the build in manager, if I try, the manager crashes, and after restart I can't open it anymore. I can't make ActiveSync connection, it says "Error", I tried making back-up of the contacts with PIM Backup but it gave error that it can't connect to the Outlook Database. What can I do, I don't have older back-up or if I do it's 5+ months old which isn't good option (but I think I deleted them from my PC). Any suggestions are welcome, I want to be able to use my device normally again
Have a look at these threads;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310152
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281421
You could also try using the PIM.vol on windows 6.5 emulator.
About time we had a PIM viewing/editing PC app !
The problem is that it seems pim.vol is corrupted, ROM is the same, I tried by reflashing it again (the same image I used before) and still nothing. PIM editing tool would be nice, eventually it may rewrite the data and fix the issue.
I haven't used manila in a long time, but as I recall, you need to shut manila down before over-writing pim.vol. Otherwise, you end up in re-boot cycles like that. I remember it happening once to me where the device would be fine until I went to the contact tab and tried to access a contact. Then it would crash, and be impossible to use.
So, you have three choices:
1. Don't use Sense. It's total crap, anyway.
2. Try turning Sense off, then restore pim.vol. Do a soft reset. Then re-load Sense, and watch all your ram and processor power disappear.
3. Use a different backup utility. I've found that SK Tools does a very good job with restoring pim info. It's better than pimbackup, imo.
use task 29 before flashing the rom. Did you sync with outlook on the PC? So you should have a copy of your data ...
Task 29's not going to help. The problem is that Sense/Manila throws a hissy fit any time you sneeze in its direction. It can't handle having pim.vol over-written while it is running. I guess if effs up the contact tab. But as I recall, the only way to restore your contact photos was to restore pim.vol directly. Pimbackup doesn't restore the favorite contact photos (I think sk tools might, though). You just have to get the process down correctly, in order to avoid the hissy fit.
You're better off just disabling that sense crap permanently, though. It's just a giant band-aid, anyway.
Ok
1) I don't have Outlook installed (not even Outlook Express)
2) With overwritten pim.vol I can't make ActiveSync connection
3) I make back-up by copy pim.vol for 2-3 years already
4) I only have PIMBackup but it doesn't connect to the corrupted pim.vol so I can't make back-up with it
5) I flash ROMs from SD card, and I do format with RAPHDIAG.nbh before flashing new ROM with RAPHIMG.nbh
6) I only have the corrupted pim.vol so I can't make new back-up from it, I can only make attempts to fix the one I have.
Are you sure that it's corrupted? Can you copy it to another location (like on your sd card) w/o getting an error? It shouldn't have a problem if you can copy it.
Try scanning your sd card. You can also try to export the data from it with a database editor. If you have SK Tools, you may be able to open the database using the database tool and the 'mount volume' command. Or, you can try Phatware's Pocket Database Editor and see if you can open it up (I've opened copies of pim.vol on my sd card with each in the past, but sometimes it doesn't work).
Edit: Phatware opens it up fine, and you can copy things out to another database. SK Tools will open it if you rename it (like to pim2.vol).
I had no problem copying it using Resco, I also copied it on 2 different SD cards, both copies act the same. I found the problem after I made hard-reset and copied back in root folder, where phone should start using it. I actually use command in SDConfig.txt to copy it, it always worked before, and worked last time I flashed that ROM, now I only made hard-reset (first, then made re-flash of same ROM). I'll try with the tools you said.
I wouldn't do it with sdconfig.txt; if Sense is already loaded, you'll run into major problems. You really need to disable Sense in the Home Items settings, then do the over-write with Resco, soft-reset, and then re-activate Sense.
Restoring pim.vol is weird. I don't use manila, and I use a mortscript that restores pim.vol and a bunch of other files during customization. For a while, it worked great, and I would have all my contacts restored after first boot. But it hasn't worked in ~6 months for me. I have no idea why. I have also found that it's important to reset immediately after doing the over-write. Sometimes, if I wait a while, the over-write won't 'stick' after the soft reset, and I'll have blank contacts, or worse, when I try to open the contacts, the device will freeze for 15-20 seconds. So now, after customization runs, I do the restore manually and then soft reset immediately, and it's always worked fine. It's a faster process than using a backup utility, so I prefer doing it this way.
I also keep other types of backups. I have a few pimbackup copies (never use them, but keep them just in case), and nightly I have a script that runs sk tools pim backup. Every once in a while, I'll also load myphone and backup my pim info there. You need to have more than one backup just in case something happens, like your sd card fails.
Well, Mortscript is executed later than SDConfig, and actually I think the one I use makes the customizations before Sence run for the first time. Anyway, for more than an year that copy method works, and it worked on that ROM 3 times just fine, just till now there wasn't corrupted DB file to copy (problem caused before backing it up, not after copy back). I found 2 bad records in my Contacts database with PhatWare, looking for ideas how to delete them, Phatware DB Explorer crashes when I select them and I can't delete them.
Well, at least you're getting somewhere. You should maybe just trying to copy all the databases into an empty pim.vol except for the two that are bad. I've never really copied stuff out from one database to another with that tool, but it might work.
Unf I can't, thought about that too but no such option, I have only for full table, but it crashes because of the 2 bad records.
Any ideas about PC DB tool that can open them, I hope it won't crash on bad records and have a bit more options (I think I'll need one for DBs, not related to PPC that much)
I don't know about a pc-side editor.
You could just try exporting each of the databases to csv files, and then see if you ca re-import them to a clean pim.vol.
I can't export them, it stops while it get to the records with errors and the file size is 0 bytes.
Guess no one has more ideas :/
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Need help. I`m going crazy for last 3 months!!! Needed to send my S100 for repair and did a backup. when got it back and tried to restore backup.stg file goes almost until the end, but.... then does not load 4 dll and some databases that I think are from from the outlook. I have set the Regional Settings as previously, but does not work. The fact is that I have everything back except all my telephone numbers and outlook contacts that I have collected for the last 3 years!!!
NEED HELP!!! Thank anybody!! :idea: ??
I think I had the same problem months ago. I assume you get some error about files/databases being in in use/locked.
My suggestion is you get a copy of SPB Pocket Plus (trial will do) & activate the safemode option. This means that if your device softresets twice within 30 secs. it will offer to boot in safemode & that's what you want in this case. So softreset your device twice within those 30 secs & go into safemode. Now restore your PIM data etc. Shouldn't be a problem now.
Pls respond if this works cause I didn't try (just didn't knew then) & I did loose my data at that time. Now I use Sprite Backup which is much much better.
Succes, M
Thanks oltp for the reply. I am afraid but that did not work!! when I try to restore the backup.stg file from the S100 using the xBackup option the start button doesn`t even come activ! If I try to restore from ActiveSync>Tools>Backup/Restore and then I click "Restore Now" it comes with a message like this: "the selected backup file is not valid. Please select another storage file".
Can you help me?
I'm very afraid I can't help you then with xBackup. Did you ever synced all contacts & appointments with Outlook, so you can sync. them back to your device?
Don't delete your file right now, maybe I can experiment a little with xBackup today & work something out. No promises though.
Best advice, too late of course, use Sprite Backup next time.
Regards, M
Once again thanks for your effort oltp. I`d appreciate you could work out something as I also lost the backup file that I had fm the outlook. I rely completely on you. :idea:
My BlueAngel [WM5] after several months since last hard reset slows down. Clearing notification queue - no effects.
Very slow: phone (especially connect, disconnect, ring after several seconds), and today screen.
If you have the same, try this:
rename \pim.vol into something else (for example pim_org.vol) and restart.
If everything works ok - probably your pim.vol (contacts, appointments etc) is corrupted.
To restore pim.vol: rename newly created pim.vol into something else, rename pim_org.vol into pim.vol and restart.
Don't delete pim.vol - it contains all important data.
Use software reset (for example psShutXP).
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To rebuild I will try (later, now I have no PC):
Make copy of all contacts, appointments and calendar into desktop outlook (full synchronization)
Rename pim.vol into something else
restart (it will create new, empty pim.vol)
synchronize again (it should transfer contacts etc back into pocketPC)
Hello,
I'm a long time browser of this site (for the past few years), and this is my first time posting. Great site - I love it!
I've just upgraded to a o2 Orbit 2 (HTC Touch Cruise).
I love this device, I've been using Pocket PCs since PPC2000 but never a PDA/Phone hybrid before, this is my first, it's amazing!
I'm using an 8gb MicroSD card to store as much as I can, rather that storing apps on ther main memory (the only apps installed there are Resco file explorer, and any today plug-ins etc).
I am having a slight issue with Sprite Backup, included with this device.
Everytime I try and backup my device state to the SD card, the program freezes about 32 seconds into the backup operation, the status in the app says "building self restoring header". I've left this for well over an hour, just incase it's working, but when i've returned to the device it's still stuck in this stage, and I have to soft-reset the device.
I've hard-reset a few times now, but to no avail, the program still freezes.
Currently I'm using the default stock o2-branded rom:
ROM Version: 1.25.206.3 WWE
ROM [email protected] 01/03/08
Radio Version: 1.58.25.14
Protocol version: 25.69.30.05H
Anyone else experience a problem like this? If so, how did you get around it?
Thanks in advance, Keep up the good work,
Chris.
never had this problem
hi there!
I got the same device, and it works (almost) perfect.
I can perform a Backup, no lacks, no critical errors, but everytime one file is skipped(a tmp file). It realy doesn't matter for me, i tried to restore a backup yesterday and it worked fine. The only thing which wasn't restored was the "photo dial cube", i had to add my friends again.. i think you know what i mean, ah and i had to set up the vpn connection again.
Everything else was restored fine. All contacs, all of my messages, pix, software... even the trial period of mochavnc keeps running, and wasn't reseted(doh).
I think a reinstallation could solve your problem. On the CD's which were delivered by O2 there is a Insaller for Sprite Backup. Try this.
Have a nice Day!
Greetings
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Hi there, thanks for the reply.
I've reinstalled again. It was one of my apps (S2U2, or CallFirewall) that was causing the problem.
Some files were locked and couldnt be unlocked when Sprite Backup kills the processes.
I've found an alternative backup application, Resco Backup, that works flawlessly.
I've even performed a hard reset and restored from the backup, so all is good!!
So you don't use sprite anymore?
I'm fighting with my phone for three days now.
everytime I reboot after a restore, (sprite reboots it first after which all comes up well adn my phone is my old one) but as said after any reboot I do hereafter all my microsoft applications can't find their initiation files sych as :mssyncapp, :mspoutlook :mscprog, :msexplore
I've tried many times and many things and discovered that probably sprite is doing a background task. And it is.
As it resets to the wrong time and date, when set in the right time and date it has missed tasks and it will start these tasks imediately.
Uninstalling sprite helped me out!
But sprite is not easy to uninstall so many files will stay onboard and again after a reboot: crash.
Since the only sollution is factory reset (t-mobile screen), install sprite, restore phone, uninstall sprite, reboot and hope it will not fail the microsoft apps again; it is very time consuming to find out what the *** sprite is doing / has done to my phone.
Hard reset and reinstall every single application I had already installed seems the best way and like my predecessor; do not use the software that came free with your phone. It kills and also sels; a premium version, now why would I need that?
I have WM6 running on a HTC Trinity (the Orange SPV M700 variant) has been wonderful for over a month now, last night I reset it cause I hadn't in ages and it was getting all bunged up and slow, when it came back everything just stopped working.
Touchflo, HTCHome, all the stuff i had running on startup instantly blasted errors at me, and all the applications i have installed wont run, including .cab installers..
The error is:
"The File [File name] cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring the file."
I'm not one of these idiots who just panicks and complains about a problem, i've searched google a lot, found that its probably the 'security configuration' and found a program that should be able to change it, only, it can't connect to it properly through activesync, i assume because of the same thing. I would just wipe it clean, even re-flash the ROM if i had too, but I want to back everything up first with something like PPCPimBackup which has worked wonders in the past, only, I can't run the executable...
If it really comes down to it i will just manually backup my contacts list and suffer the other losses, but i'm sure there is some genious on these forums who has a magic sollution..
Always keep in mind, it's called a Pocket PC, because it's just like a PC. So from here on out, be sure to reset daily, it's quick and can help over a long run. As far as it not running now (don't know if you have fixed it yet) but try another reset, sometimes when there are too many startup apps, it can cause some chaos and certain apps won't run. Or try uninstalling the apps not working and reinstalling after a reset, after the uninstall.
Also, always a great idea to backup.
I would like to think i'm pretty good with computers, if this happened on my laptop or desktop I'd be able to find the registry values or find a program to change them for me to stop it blocking the apps from running.
Trouble is, I can't run the PPC version of RegEdit because it is blocking EVERY .exe, If it wasn't PPC i'd boot it up in safe mode, using all the default values, but there isn't on in WM6 by default (to my knowledge anyway)
I've reset many times and nothing changes, turned it off, even taken the battery out just in case it made a difference.
I think i'm going to have to do a hard reset and suffer the losses..
Sometimes a hard reset is the only solution.
Saw this in a signautre from NiteStalker, both hilarious and true, "If knowledge is counted in Hard Resets, I must be a genious!"
I have a htc diamond and use the phone for many purposes, as pc modem sync, musicplayer, gps etc. When using the phone intensly it sometimes gives errors. and only a hard reset will fix the phone. Not really a problem since i get used to it and have all software reinstalled in 30 minutes.
The only problem is that all voicetags (dutch version so no voice recognition) need to be set again, which is pretty annoying.
So my question is in which folder are the voicetags stored or is there another simple way to backup them?
doublepost (IE error) can be deleted