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JABRA BT200/XDAII Reconnect/Bonding problems

I have been using a JABRA BT200 Headset with my XDAII and have always had the same problem, once the BT200 has been paired with the XDAII it works fine but once I put the headset into it's charging cradle and then remove it and try to use it again it always loses it's bond, the only way I can get it to communicate with the XDAII again is to pair it again.
I don't know whether the problem lies with the BT200 or the XDAII
Does anyone else have this problem ???
Thanks
Ian Goulding

hey ian,
it was just recently that i was able to figure out the bt-xda2 bonding; thanks to some helpful chaps in the forum. in the process; i did some research within several topics and read something which may answer your query. when the headset is back in it's cradle; i believe it's "turned off" or is put into inactive mode. the forum message i read indicated that the bonding is lost once the headset is turned off; thus you have to bond again. yes, i have had similar experiences while figuring out the bonding issue. i just keep the bt200 i have out of the cradle; when the time comes to charge it i then holster it and repeat the bonding process once it's charged. i don't think it's a problem with neither devices; it's the default setting i believe. with luck probably the xda-developer guys will come up with a bug fix for this item. which could also include using bt for other than the phone function...like mp3....hint! hint!
cheers
robson

Ian_Goulding said:
I have been using a JABRA BT200 Headset with my XDAII and have always had the same problem, once the BT200 has been paired with the XDAII it works fine but once I put the headset into it's charging cradle and then remove it and try to use it again it always loses it's bond, the only way I can get it to communicate with the XDAII again is to pair it again.
I don't know whether the problem lies with the BT200 or the XDAII
Does anyone else have this problem ???
Thanks
Ian Goulding
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I've installed Towa's GPS BT patch and the Jabra works perfect.

hey redbull,
what's the Towa's GPS BT patch and where can i find a link?
cheers mate
robson

Towa's gps patch has nothing to do with this...
I'm not sure what you are talking about, but Towa's patch will not solve the Jabra BT200 issue. The more important question to look at here is what version of BT200 you have. If you look on your Jabra BT200 right next to the microphone, there is a combination of letters and numbers, what does yours say? I think the problem has to do with issues in the firmware in the Jabra that were fixed in later versions.
It's usually 2 numbers and a letter on the boom to the Microphone.
I have a 47A and it does not work at all. Also tested a 48A and it doesn't work either.

mine's a 48b. works fine.

Cool, just so we are talking about the same thing, you can turn off the Jabra BT200, and turn it back on, and it still works with the phone? You can charge the headset in it's charger and pull it out and it still works? You can go out of range and then back in range and it still works? You can press the answer phone button on the headset when no call is in progress and then try to make a call and things still work?
Please try these various things and let me know.
I know that the A models are from 2002, and the B models are 2003. So it is possible if yours works with all these scenarios that they fixes or changed something in the 2003 models that allow them to work.
Thanks for your time,
LouisK

I recently purchased a BT 250 with nr. 44B and indeed it works with all the tests you described. (Don't need the BT GPS patch for that)
If only the advanced Headset Profile features would work with the MDA II I would be in heaven...........

Ok, it seems based on feedback I've gotten from several people that any Jabra Freespeak that has a "B" as the last part of it's version number will work correctly, but the "A" models do not. The "B" models according to Jabra are the most recent, and thought they don't admit it, there must have been a change in the firmware that allows the "B" units to work correctly with an XDA2/MDA2/i-Mate that the "A" units don't support.
LouisK

I have a "B" on mine and the same problem of rebonding when Jabra is shut off. I experimented by turning off bluetooth on the i-mate and it still worked. Anyone have ideas of a good headset that will not need rebonding?

I have problems with mine too and its a 16B. Turn the BT headset off and its rebond time again.....

48B works fine for me... can't everyone else just use TOWA's patch... that fixed the problem for others

stryker said:
I have problems with mine too and its a 16B. Turn the BT headset off and its rebond time again.....
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16B is no good. I've been told that minumum needed is 19B. Below 19B is bluetooth 'handsfree' not 'headset'.

Towa's patch has nothing to do with this. It will not help in this situation. It only applies to Bluetooth Serial Profile, of which the Jabra has none. I have talked to Towa via email to confirm this. For those that installed Towa's patch and said it works, more than likely they didn't have the problem anyway because of the version of Jabra they had.

BT jabra 200/plantronic M3000
Jabra is model 45B, - no nead to repair, Plantronics M3000, no need to repair, but sometimes fails to answer call properly.

Hi 2U all,
I have just purchased a BT200 off Ebay, the number on the boom is 20B. No problems works well , no rebonding problems. Just one wish, it would work with voice. But I will keep praying!
StayLucky Jim :wink:

EMAIL FROM JABRA RE-Bonding Problems with XDA-II
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Dear Ian,
Thank you for your e-mail and please accept our apologies for the delay in reply.
We are sorry to hear you are experiencing problems using your JABRA BT200 headset in conjunction with your O2 XDA II.
However, having tested the JABRA BT200 headset with the XDA II, we have encountered the following problems.
When completed charging the headset you will need to synchronise the Headset and the Audio Gateway in your XDA II.
Please follow the steps below:
Select Bluetooth menu> Select Off> Select OK (BT is now disconnected)
Return to desktop (Today view)> Disable BT HS mode> Enable BT HS mode (User
to be prompted to turn On BT radio)>Select OK
Enter BT menu> Select On> Select OK (The XDA II returns to the "Today" view
and will try to synchronise with the HS again.
Check connection by establishing an outgoing call. If no sync - you will need
to re-pair the two devices)
We hope this will solve your problem for you. If you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Thank you for contacting JABRA Customer Service, Europe
Camilla Vang
Customer Service Representative
GN Netcom, Mobile Division (Copenhagen, Denmark)
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Seems to me that without actually saying it, JABRA think that the fault lies with the XDA-II!
Regards
Ian Goulding

question?? does the bt200 2.5 work with the imate and a i95c at the same time??
i have two devises an I95cl for nextel not blue tooth and the imate pc phone. i would like if possible to use one headset ?? the bt 2002.5 says it will work for bt phones also?? but will it work at the same time ?? hope iam clear...iam a baby here can you tell

15B, can it be upgraded?

Hello everyone...
I have an MDAII and a Plantronics M3000 BT headset and I have the same pairing problem.
I always have to repair the two divices for them to work...
Any ideas?
Best regards,
Rayan

MDA2 Carkit is silent after upgrading ROM

Hi,
I've got a problem with my carkit (O2 XDA-Carkit) after I upgrade to the new ROM-Version of T-Mobile (1.60).
With the old Rom-Version, the carkit works as a loadspeaker for all kind of sound. The voice-instructions from tomtom for example, came out of the carkit-speaker loud and clearly. Each kind of sound, the device made, came out of the speaker of the carkit.
Now, after upgrading to the new ROM, only the telephone works with the speaker of the carkit. With Incoming or outgoing calls I can use the carkit as usual...the speaker works and the mikro works also. But every other sound (e.g. tomtom voice-instructions) came direktly out of the speaker of the mda2 in a poor quality.
Some hints, how I could use my carkit again as a speaker for all kind of sound without goinig back to the old ROM ?
Any other kind of hints...maybe to use a bluetooth headset therefor (so that all kind of sound came out of the headset....not only telephone...I've got a Plantronics Headset...but also only the telephone works)
thx for help
best regards
rob.

Yep.......I have the same problem here.......don't know why they changed settings on the handsfree profile here.
Another thing you will find out is that the charging is very slow on the XDA carkit with the XDA II. If you run TomTom, Yeti and a bright screen the xda II will not charge, but drain!!
It has something to do with the wiring of the interface, but unless someone will come up with a solution I will go for a new carkit or a BT solution. (It's a bloody shame though it doesn't work properly with the XDA carkit! :evil: )

Hi,
the charging-problem is also a mess.
I think, the problem is only the GPS-driver from tomtom. In my tests, only when the GPS-driver is loaded, the battery-power goes down. With stopping the GPS-driver, the battery will charge again, but only, if the battery-power is more than about 75 - 80%.
If the battery is less than 75%, it will not charge at all, even if, there is no App runnung and the screen is off.
You said, you will go for a new carkit or bluetooth-solution. Do you know a carkit or bluetooth-solution, wich offers the feature, that all sounds (tomtom instuctions...etc.) came out of a loadspeaker or thru a headset (without connecting the wired headphone ;-)
As far as I know, at the moment all devices works only with the telephone-funktion....
best regards
rob.

Same here,
i have build my own carkit, and have put ground to pin 19,
sound was normally going though the connector to my car stereo
now it doenst anymore :evil:
I am sure this isnt a hardware thing it is software
could be the settings on the handsfree profile. on the xda2...
this is very very frustrating. just being finished with my carkit and now i cant use it anymore
also you cant set the phone to speakermode anymore..

I am sure this isnt a hardware thing it is software
could be the settings on the handsfree profile. on the xda2...
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Does anybody know how to change this back?

I found that the registry points to a certain file in your windows directory: HandsFree_Dll.dll
(I found this here: HKLM\Services\Handsfree)
Can someone with the old 1.03 ROM please upload this file so i can try if this solves the problem...
TIA,
Max

Akira, Max :
I am building my own car kit, and have no success.
I do not obtain audio out with or without grounding pin 19.
I'm running Rom 1.60.00WWE.
Did you solve your problem ??

I must correct my last update.
I obtain audio when in phone mode, but not during playing waves or TomTom directions. Even Ring Tones do not go out trough the bottom connector.
So is it a software problem ?
Can it be corrected ?

Headset problems.. plz help

Hi, the headphones that came with my Cingular 2125 (HTC Faraday) doesn't work in my phone, but works in everyone elses phone that i try, and that A2DP program doesn't work either with my bluetooth handsfree set either... any help on either one of them is much appreciated. (bought my phone off ebay and they may not be the same headphones that come with it, but it fits and works in any other phone i try...)
Thanks a lot.

jman030 said:
Hi, the headphones that came with my Cingular 2125 (HTC Faraday) doesn't work in my phone, but works in everyone elses phone that i try, and that A2DP program doesn't work either with my bluetooth handsfree set either... any help on either one of them is much appreciated. (bought my phone off ebay and they may not be the same headphones that come with it, but it fits and works in any other phone i try...)
Thanks a lot.
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Did you install the a2dp patch?

no, i didn't know their was one. im going to look for it now and see if it solves my problems. but it may be my bluetooth. i have a Motorola H3 bluetooth headset
edit i installed the fix and when i go to settings >connection> bluetooth> Menu>Devices>Motorola H3 i get the option of headset but i cant hear music through it. do i need a different media player?
or is there any way to get my phone to recognize the orignal headphones it came with.

The motorola h3 isn't an a2dp headset. I'd suggest the motorola s9, which is absolutely the best I've ever tried (and I've tried alot), but expensive. with an a2dp headset, you'll get an options for "headset" and "wireless stereo".
You can get music to go a non-a2dp headset, but it somewhat of a pain, and sounds like crap anyway.
But it is wierd that your wired headset doesn't work w/ your phone. when you plug it in, does it automatically switch to 'headset' profile?

@ dm251z, nope it doesnt automatically say headset or switch into the headset profile nor does it allow me to select it.

I suspect that there is hardware problem, but of course I have no way of knowing. normally, you can stick just about anything into the headphone jack, and the phone will automatically switch to headset profile (I just tried sticking in an adapter w/o headphones, and that switched it). I don't think that that profile can be switched manually, only hardware controlled. So maybe the headphone jack is shot.
sorry I can't be of more help. I guess I'd suggest trying stereo bluetooth. You can't go wrong with a decent bluetooth headset...even if the phone is shot, you can still use the headset with your next phone. Also for the a2dp patch to work, make sure that your phone has the latest ROM installed, or at least some version of aku 2.x
good luck.

ok. thanx alot for all your help. i even tried a friend of mines adaptor and it didnt work either so i guess ur right. o well. thanx again.

S710 (vox) bluetooth carkit probs

I received my shiny new S710 today (replacing my imate sp5) i am having terrible problems with bluetooth and my car kit (Parrot Ck3100 with latest sortware) The phone connects and syncs ok but disconnects after a few mins and refuses to connect again.
I have an old motorola h605 headset that shows similar problems of not connecting or dropping the connection.
The Ck3100 kit has worked faultlessly with my imate sp5 for the last year.
Has anyone else had any problems with headsets or car kits?!
I have done a hard reset on the S710 and have nothing installed, and also disconnected the power to the CK3100 for 1/2 an hour before attempting to re setup the pairing
iain

Nokia CK7W
On a similar note, while my Vodafone V1415 works with my Nokia CK7W, I cannot end a call by pressing the button. Last number redial (two presses) and Hold or something like it (press and hold) are OK. To be fair, the CK7W is a little dated, but has proven to be fine with both Blue Angel and Hermes.
On the plus side the audio is good, without any echo for the remote caller.

Nokia CK-7W and S710
As with the Qtek 9100, the S710 seems not to operate soomthly with the NOKIA carkit CK-7w. I have to turn volume up to 100% and the sound from the speaker is still rather quite. The person i am calling is complaining that the line is not perfect. So for me it is back to the standard corded earpiece.
So any tips using the CK-7W and vox succesfully together are welcome!

@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.

further to this i managed to borrow a e650 (vox) from work and it worked 100% with my car kit and tomtom and laptop!
I spoke to htc who said they had tested with the parrot ck3100 and said it worked 100%, as my phone was struggling to be detected by several devices and also struggling to detect other things that they recomended getting it replaced.
Spoke to handtech who said they would replace asap

jbn said:
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
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@jbn
KPN
OS: 5.2.1235 (Build 17740.0.2.0)
ROM: 1.15.405.2
Radio: 4.1.12.37_02.83.90

I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck

Had the same problem. Qtek8310 was working fine, S710 not. After a reset of the Parrot also the S710 is working fine.

aage said:
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
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Unfortenately deleting the settings introduces echo and noise (voice sounds like robot). I think S710 and Nokis Ck-7w are not made for eachother.
I will try using the Parrot 3100 as on alternative BT solution..

Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT
I have the Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT and no problems at all with my S710, works a dream

Parrot
Hi,
You should visit http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
and get the latest software for your Parrot. You will need a bluetooth enabled laptop or to get your bluetooth enabled PC near your car!
Flash your parrot, then connect choosing a windows CE device. It will fully sync your phonebook too.
I use the Orange E650 and connect to my Holux GPS receiver and Parrot 3100 at the same time with no problems at all.
cheers
Sinet2020

JETware
See this thread for a possible solution for the Nokia CK7W!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331096

Problem with headset socket --- HELP NEED

Hello guys !
I have a problem with my Spv m600 . Problem is about headset socket. Sometime after I disconnect earphones plug (not all the time - strange) there is no switch to pda speaker. When I plug-in earphones, - sound is in there. After a while of struggling it switch back . I don’t now what to do . I try deferent’s rom but the problem still exists. Strange thing with it is that not always plugin earphones do this sound crash.
When I bought this pda I didn’t have this problem Is this possible that changing of Radio IPL SPL could cause it ?
IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.64.4PDA
GSM: 02.30.21
OS: 7.0.0.7
About Radio rom I don’t know how to check but it was changed on 100% .

birchof said:
Hello guys !
I have a problem with my Spv m600 . Problem is about headset socket. Sometime after I disconnect earphones plug (not all the time - strange) there is no switch to pda speaker. When I plug-in earphones, - sound is in there. After a while of struggling it switch back . I don’t now what to do . I try deferent’s rom but the problem still exists. Strange thing with it is that not always plugin earphones do this sound crash.
When I bought this pda I didn’t have this problem Is this possible that changing of Radio IPL SPL could cause it ?
IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.64.4PDA
GSM: 02.30.21
OS: 7.0.0.7
About Radio rom I don’t know how to check but it was changed on 100% .
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It's a hardware problem.
Try reinserting the headset a few times when you unplug it...

Yes I do this every time.
When I ride a bike and listen music and after a while unplug headphones ... sound is still swith to headset ---> perhaps I wont to make a call and boooom (frustration) .
Now I take the head phones in pda and out and it's ok . if its hardware problem I need to get in to this socket and look closer what is going on ?

birchof said:
Yes I do this every time.
When I ride a bike and listen music and after a while unplug headphones ... sound is still swith to headset ---> perhaps I wont to make a call and boooom (frustration) .
Now I take the head phones in pda and out and it's ok . if its hardware problem I need to get in to this socket and look closer what is going on ?
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The issue is caused by the fact that the headphone socket ages, and the spring back of the switch used to detect the headphone insertion is weaker and tends not to work, so the headphones are detected as being in when they're not...

Thanks for Your feedback .... could I somehow replace it ? (socket)

birchof said:
Thanks for Your feedback .... could I somehow replace it ? (socket)
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I'd guess so, although it may need soldering...

Hi. I have the same problem and have tried to repair the internals of the socket but still no joy. Anyone any recommendation of where to purchase a replacement / experience of fitting ? Thanks

i use a pin
i take a pin to reactivate the speaker - so bad - a good phone and so bad interface - is there anybody to change the interface or have an manual to fix it ?