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Just wanted to let everyone know NOT to buy these screen protectors... I bought one for my XDA II about two weeks ago and it's real crap.
The visual quality is awesome, sylus is smooth; HOWEVER, the touch screen becomes really hard. You need to tap the screen hard before anything will happen. Also, if you get one spec of dust under the screen, that section of the protector will not stick to the screen and you'll get a big bubble.
Save your $15US
It is probably the placement of the protector thats causing the problem, I suggest you see how close to the edges it is sitting, even a tiny part of the protector tucked under the edge can stop the screen working completely, I have heard nothing but good about this brand.
It's on there perfectly...
I had a G2 lying around for the Siemens SX56 and thought I would give that a try and see if it's any better. I installed it and it was a little too small (tuck wise), so it would move around slightly if you are playing games. I just put a drop of Super Glue in two corners (clean job) and it's perfect.
Awesome considering I only paid $14US for 2!
I have had no problems with the martin fields screen protector. I've tried to order a G2 screen protector a long time ago - waited two weeks and order never came, so I went with the martin fields. To get a real clean job, its good to have a piece of tape lying around - or use one of those Post it flags to remove the dust on the screen or the screen protector.
And putting superglue on your XDA II is insane. I highly recommend not to if you lack great hand dexterity. *imagines self* :roll:
I think it totally depends which you get... G2 doesn't "really" support the XDA II.
haha, yes yes... I used a small needle and everything. YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH GLUE, JUST A DROP TO HOLD IT DOWN. remember, you want to remove it later!
Superglue on your touchscreen??? :shock:
I bought MF and I don't have too much problem - other than my clumsy hands.
The tapping hard is not experienced as said here, but compared to without the screen protector (any one, not necessary MF), you need to tap harder & write harder. :roll:
As for taking the protector out and the dust, I learned the hard way -- use scotchtape to stick up the protector, use the scotchtape to stick off the dust, & don't use water or thinner to clean the sticky side -- use the scotchtape and gently peck on the sticky side. :wink:
cheers
I had the WRITEShield before the MFO's, and although they were great, the MFO's are heaps better. I have to say, I find the required touch to be much lighter than the WS's.
Many of the forum users over at MTekk love them too, infact this is the first complaint.
Hope you get your problems sorted...
Dave
I've no problems so far with MF.
No hard touch screen problem...infact its same as before putting on the protector.
The MF is cool....only minor comment is it will get scratch after a while of intense gaming or writing. Comparable with G2s.
The PDA shop recommend me to change it after 6~8 months....depending on the scratch surface.
So far I've not encountered a clear type Screen protector that doesn't scratch.
The ones from Brando Brand are Matt finished but will last forever without a scratch on it.
I let the shop assistant (actually, he is the boss!) fixed the thing for me and it looked like a tedious task to get a perfect job. The screen need to be cleaned, apply it slowly from the top side and if there is a dust spot, remove with cellotape. I couldn't have done a better job than him!
hmm, that's really weird. I have to tap it at least twice as hard on the edges and three times in the center.
At first I thought my LCD was dead, but I removed the protector and the touch does work awesome.
No problems here either. I've been using MF on all my phones, SE P800/900 and now my Qtek 2020. Also tried Brando's protector but it's not too bright, so prefere the MF.
Don't get me wrong, I love the visual quality, but can't stand the touch of it.
Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.
I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?
Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.
I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!
I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?
I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good
Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.
Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.
i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !
ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.
I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.
Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.
I have an old Wallaby that has a scratched screen at the right margin; a protector was never used and apparently, someone used the scrollbar a LOT, violently so.
If it was just a little scuff, I'd just apply a protector to keep it from getting scratched any more (the screen is still reasonably responsive), but this time, there's a single "bump" in the middle of the scratch that would still make the sensitivity be off.
There's quite a few products out there promising to rejuvenate scratched screens, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips or user experiences to share;
Does Displex or any other such product live up to its claims? Is it worth it to try to rub-a-dub-dub with an abrasive agent, or does it merely lead to more damage in the end?
Enquiring minds want to know!
Erm, I wouldn't recommend it
Ok
I've never used Displex on my mobile...cos I don't dare. Reason? I used it on my ipod...was so eager, I even used it on the clickwheel. Clickwheel became so cool and shiny...but lost sensitivity. (stop laughing)
So basically, if its a device which uses a touch interface, don't use Displex or any such cleaner (which although they claim are not abrasive basically are, cos they literally work down the plastic like a really weak acid). Of course, if your touch interface isn't imbeded on the actual screen itself but underneath it (hold to light, check for tiny dots...u see dots, its imbedded).
HTH
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I have an old Wallaby that has a scratched screen at the right margin; a protector was never used and apparently, someone used the scrollbar a LOT, violently so.
If it was just a little scuff, I'd just apply a protector to keep it from getting scratched any more (the screen is still reasonably responsive), but this time, there's a single "bump" in the middle of the scratch that would still make the sensitivity be off.
There's quite a few products out there promising to rejuvenate scratched screens, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips or user experiences to share;
Does Displex or any other such product live up to its claims? Is it worth it to try to rub-a-dub-dub with an abrasive agent, or does it merely lead to more damage in the end?
Enquiring minds want to know!
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don't worry the screen is not messed up you just scratched the digitizer thats a thinfilm that sits ontop of the screen that makes it into a touch screen. they are not that much money 20-25 dollars pick up a new one
I'm currently waiting for some new screen protectors to arrive BUT
I have an Invisible Shield Screen Protector sat here..
If I fit this is it easy enough to remove when the others arrive ?
Will it leave any marks or residue ?
Are they any good ?
Thanks
Well if you already have it you might as well use it. I find them a little difficult to fit, rather grippy for touch screen use and frankly they do mark up permanently, they are FAR from invisible or indestructible.
I didnt like mine, i actually removed it and fitted a cheap screen protector i got from eBay (6 for 1.99), and much prefer those.
So no issues removing it ? nor residue, gunk or mess ?
thanks
I would say no.
And no i had mine on for a week, no issue at all removing it, if anything it left my screen sparking clean.
I removed mine in favor of this one by FoneM8:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676449
My invisibleShield had a lot of dust under it.
Removing it was painless and left no trace on the screen. I thought it would had been harder to get off but it was quite easy.
You just pull a corner and peel it back slowly.. Not any different from other screen protectors I guess.
I guess it depends on how careful that you are when you apply it. I took my time and used PLENTY of the supplied application fluid and it is great. Yes it is a little grippy, but grippy is better than slippery....?
I have also put a gel case on over my Desire (i have a proven record of putting my phone in the same pocket as my keys), and to date.....not a mark on the phone / screen.
Take your time applying it and use plenty of fluid is my advise
Thanks.
I'm waiting on my order from FoneM8 !
If they don't arrive today I use the Invisible shield and see how I get on.
As long as it won't mark or leave marks on the screen I may as well use it !
Thanks
i had the invisible Sheila, i removed and returned it for a full refund. it was just to restive for my liking but apart from that it was good.
my desire is now rocking the brando ultra clear, couldn't be happier
Currently go a cheap 5 for £2.90 from Amazon.. seems OK !
I had invisible shield fitted for about two weeks.
Removed it finally as I got too frustrated with it.
Fitting it wasn't exactly a doddle, even using plenty solution.
To get shot of bubbles I ended up marking the skin which didn't self heal as we've heard. That's not why I removed it though.
The skin is too sticky to use for touchscreen use.
I can see how it might be good for a laptop or something, but for smart touch screen phone? Nah - bad idea. I reckon it hot sticky climates, it will be even worse, as sweaty hands/fingers don't get on well with the invisible shield.
Personally I want to get my hands on a hard-ish type protector that has only slight give, so that the touch screen experience isn't flawed...
I said no!
I have a cheap 5 for 2.50 off eBay - after wasting 2 the third went on a treat, you'd never know it was there and no change to touchscreen at all
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no don't use it.. i've had my on for bout 2 weeks now and its sucking alot of dust near the edges and what not so i'll be removing them when i'm back from holidays..
yes and no
From my experience of using on various devices and claiming multiple lifetime warranty and countless application, i feel that it's not great for the screen.
It feels "grippy" after applying which is not good when you try to slide your finger on the screen. On the hand on the back of devices it is perfect. It increases grip and prevent fall off from your hand when using one hand(especially people with smaller hands).
For screen, it impacts the clarity but not as bad as anti-glare(matte) screen protector, which I personally hate it. I only applied on the back, sides and button area.
The downside is it takes a lot of patience and time to apply the skin. I took 45 mins. But in the end the effect is simply stunning(if done correctly).
If you don't need the lifetime warranty then you can opt for http://www.bestskinsever.com/htc-desire-skin, USD 8. It's the same sans warranty.
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For me it has to be a no, i prefer the HTC screen protector and leather case, i dont go throwing my phone around etc so it suits me fine. I rather than this than an invis shield around my phone but then again i do change my phone a few times each year.
The invis shield is really good but not for me.
Easy to remove, doesnt leave any mess on phone and nope i wouldnt recommend it i just think its stupid and doesnt feel right on the phone
Thanks for the comments.
I decided to wait until my cheap screen protectors arrived.
now fitted and feel good
Cheers
What have you found to be a good screen protector for the Blaze? I have been looking for something that will last. I just got some "C. Skins" that have a two year warranty off of fleabay for a whole $1.99 so I figured I would give them a try. I'm not expecting much for the price, but figured I would give it a shot. My initial report is that it won't stay down around the edges. I might trim a little off the edges and give it another try. (there were 6 in the package so I can experiment on a couple)
What other brands out have a good reputation and work on the Blaze? Thanks for any and all input.
My reply is not specifically what you're looking for, but is another viewpoint.
For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
It's true I used a silicone style case for the back of the phone, mostly because the N1 is freaking slippery....but the screen was immaculate.
A friend of mine has a similar story with his Iphone 3gs, or whatever it's called. The materials that the phones have been made from for the last few years is pretty durable. I remember watching youtube videos of N1's users taking their brand new phones and marring them with keys, pressing really hard, and they wouldn't scratch.
I have no idea if the screen on this model phone is made of anything similar in a material, but I would certainly assume so, I'm sure most if not all of full screen phones are just as durable.
I didn't even buy a back cover this time, and it's been great.
Anyways, consider going "naked" with your phone. It "feels better".
I've used invisibleShields by Zagg on my past four phones, plus various devices such as digital camera screens and such. They're worth the price.
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My reply is not specifically what you're looking for, but is another viewpoint.
For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
It's true I used a silicone style case for the back of the phone, mostly because the N1 is freaking slippery....but the screen was immaculate.
A friend of mine has a similar story with his Iphone 3gs, or whatever it's called. The materials that the phones have been made from for the last few years is pretty durable. I remember watching youtube videos of N1's users taking their brand new phones and marring them with keys, pressing really hard, and they wouldn't scratch.
I have no idea if the screen on this model phone is made of anything similar in a material, but I would certainly assume so, I'm sure most if not all of full screen phones are just as durable.
I didn't even buy a back cover this time, and it's been great.
Anyways, consider going "naked" with your phone. It "feels better".
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Thank you for the insight on the screens, I always carry my phone in my front pocket also and I'm worried about cracking the screen if I bend over against something and put pressure on the phone. I might just be overreacting on this but this is my first full screen smarty phone and I don't want to kill it.
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I've used invisibleShields by Zagg on my past four phones, plus various devices such as digital camera screens and such. They're worth the price.
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Thanks, that is one that I was looking into also.
Anyone else have a recomendation on other brands?
Those screen protector films won't protect against the screen being cracked. Minor scratches, sure.
Having said that, it takes a *LOT* to crack the screens. Sure, it can be done easily, but I've seen iphones and htc incredibles lobbed across the room (not thrown like a baseball mind you, but tossed as if you were intending someone to catch it) and the person mis-threw and the phones were fine.
As far as scratches go......even if the phone does get scratched, (which is really hard to do and it needs to either be an extreme freak accident or something done intentionally, seriously I just took a fork to my nexus one tried to scratch it with the fork) the phone will still work. In order to scratch the screen I think you'd need to have something sharp and very hard, like a roofing nail or the tip of a steak knife.
The fork bent, and the screen is still not scratched.
I really understand where you are coming from on wanting to keep your phone in tip top shape, especially since the phones are expensive nowadays, but what I'm trying to say is don't worry about it so much.
The best thing you can do to not damage your phone is to not let them get wet. Don't be that guy at the bar with your phone sitting on the counter just waiting for some drunk guy to accidentally spill his beer on it.
Put that phone in your front pocket, even if you are wearing tight jeans, and have to crouch over, don't worry, your phone will be fine. I've been telling this over and over to a friend of mine who just recently got his first real phone (blah, an iphone 4s) and he treats the phone like it's an infant.
It's so funny. I'm not saying you should use your phone as a hammer to fix your roof, I'm just saying that the phones are rugged. Seriously, think about how many get sold, if they were so fragile, people would be up in arms every 2 weeks when their phone fell off the table.
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Those screen protector films won't protect against the screen being cracked. Minor scratches, sure.
Having said that, it takes a *LOT* to crack the screens. Sure, it can be done easily, but I've seen iphones and htc incredibles lobbed across the room (not thrown like a baseball mind you, but tossed as if you were intending someone to catch it) and the person mis-threw and the phones were fine.
As far as scratches go......even if the phone does get scratched, (which is really hard to do and it needs to either be an extreme freak accident or something done intentionally, seriously I just took a fork to my nexus one tried to scratch it with the fork) the phone will still work. In order to scratch the screen I think you'd need to have something sharp and very hard, like a roofing nail or the tip of a steak knife.
The fork bent, and the screen is still not scratched.
I really understand where you are coming from on wanting to keep your phone in tip top shape, especially since the phones are expensive nowadays, but what I'm trying to say is don't worry about it so much.
The best thing you can do to not damage your phone is to not let them get wet. Don't be that guy at the bar with your phone sitting on the counter just waiting for some drunk guy to accidentally spill his beer on it.
Put that phone in your front pocket, even if you are wearing tight jeans, and have to crouch over, don't worry, your phone will be fine. I've been telling this over and over to a friend of mine who just recently got his first real phone (blah, an iphone 4s) and he treats the phone like it's an infant.
It's so funny. I'm not saying you should use your phone as a hammer to fix your roof, I'm just saying that the phones are rugged. Seriously, think about how many get sold, if they were so fragile, people would be up in arms every 2 weeks when their phone fell off the table.
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normally I keep my phone in my front pocket with change and a lighter. I'm glad to hear that these phones are durable enough not to worry about them too much. Thanks for the insight on this.
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For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
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I must be one unlucky guy then. I have always put screen protectors on my phone and kept them in cases. I always assume I'll resell the phone and a case offers me comfort in that sense.
With my N1, I needed to change the screen protector and took it off for a day. A DAY... I was careful with it, didn't put it anywhere crazy, nothing on it, etc. Somehow it managed to go from pristine to "big gash luckily not directly over the LCD".
The one time I dropped that phone (again, going "naked") during a change, I incurred a huge indentation on one of the corners. Anyone who's handled an N1 should realize how big a deal that is because the metalic parts of the body were thick aluminum. I really don't know how I managed that dent cuz it also happened from seat level.
From then on I've had the case and screen protectors for new phones BEFORE even having the phones in my hand. I'll agree with the fact that it takes a ton of force to crack the screen, but it also takes just the right angle just that 1 time to create the tortional force to crack the screen.
I've done Zagg as well as many of the glossy static based protectors. My issues with the static based glossy ones (and the Zagg) was with the corners coming up. My bad Zagg experience may simply have been on the N1 due to the screen being practically "above" the edge of the phone.
I've taken a major liking to the Stealth Shieldz offered on Amazon. The Zagg is just plain skin and I found a little difficult to apply. The Stealth Shieldz product is also a wet application (like the Zagg), but there's a hard plastic under the skin that helps it keep it's shape better, and for that I find it easier to apply. I also found it just lasted longer.
I wish the case options were better. Like a red/black version of the Incipio silicrylic... but the phone's still new, so i imagine the cases will come
I love this phone.
I figured I would post a update. I got the Zagg screen protector and love it. Well worth the $15. So far it's holding up great. I've had it on for about 3 weeks and no problems like the el cheap o protectors that would scratch from just sliding my fingers over the screen. And it has a lifetime warranty so if there is any problems I can send it back.
thanks again everyone for your input on this.
I just went with a case no screen protector. My phone is always in a safe place so I always come out with no scratches etc. When I do go with screen protector I often go with zagg or xtremeguard for my other phones.
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Has anyone ever used an anti glare screen protector? I've been trying to find one but dont know what brands are any good
I got the invisible shield and as far as I can see it's pretty perfect. Very happy with it.
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Some of those protectors have a treatment on that that acts like polarization. I wear polarized lenses and if I turn the phone one way I can see everything, and if I turn it another, poof....it's gone.
I'd go to a store and try several out if this is a concern for you.
Ballistic case. So well made and feels so solid you want to drop it off your roof.
I personally have also always bought Skinomi screen protectors/full phone protectors on amazon. I NEVER get the dry screen protectors - I just suck at putting them on. Spraying a solution on the screen protector to install it also allows you to adjust where the protector is before it cures to the screen. Just make sure you do it quickly or you will be looking at the same bits of dust for a very long time!
I have always been huge at keeping screen protectors and cases on my phones. I have tried everything from the Matted protectors, to the really cheap ones, and I have tried the Invisible Shield by Zagg, and recently I bought a Ghost Armor protector for my phone. Apparently its supposed to be fingerprint resistant and grease and oil repellent, but it seems like it attracts oil and grease more than anything. The one thing that I hate about the Invisible Shield and the Ghost Armor is the material used. I know its supposed to be scratch resistant, but I hate the feeling of it. The whole rubbery material does not go well with a touchscreen phone, and your fingers stick alot. On top of that it has these weird ripples on it that make the screen look kinda weird. I am actually thinking of removing Ghost Armor and just going to the cheap ones that cost about $5
I am always the type of person who gets a screen protector within the first few hours of owning a phone, but I went about a week without one when I first got the Blaze because I couldn't find one, and have found that the screen is extremely scratch resistant and haven't bothered with one since.
3 months of typical use and so far not a single scratch on the screen, even after sharing the same pocket with some coins and keys.
I just ordered the Skinomi Drytech screen protector. Will update with pics and a brief review once it arrives.