I posted in another thread, but it seems to have been overlooked as it was more of a question regarding another reply and didn't fit, so I'll make a new thread.
While my MDA seems to be functioning fine with very little lag and no hanging, I am still interested in trying to overclock it.
What I'm wondering is what is the best program to do it and where can I get it? I've seen several threads that refer to a program that allows you to tell the program which things to speed up, which things to run at native speed, and which things to even slow down (why you would want to slow it more than native I don't know).
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I knew of one program from a LONG time ago that overclocked the omap processor, but I'm guessing there must be better things out there by now.
Try this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
research batterystatus, OMAP, SmartKey, and XCPU Scaler.
Crossbow reloaded has an overclocker included.
It also features variable clocking - increasing or decreasing the speed based on the percentage of current processor usage.
Mine is charging so I cannot say exactly - but it is something like....
Standard = 195
Max = 240
Boost = 265
Minimum = 69
I dropped the minimum speed as I figure it stretches the battery life - and why spin the processor to do almost nothing - ie wait for a call or text.
In reality the lowest it goes is 99 i think.
Thanks guys. I thought the battery status thing was just a more cool way to tell how much juice was left (as opposed to the original bar-based indicator)
Looks pretty interesting. I just hope I don't fry my phone now... LOL
hi guys.
i'll want know a good program for overclock my trinity.
it's possiblehave 500mhz rock solid?
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324781&highlight=overclock
Some people report Pocket Hack Master worked for them.
Able to actually change the CPU speed, and noticed some obvious changes in their device behaviour.
It's worth a try
well i was experiencing very slow speeds and it seemed too sluggish for a 400mhz cpu. well i install xcpuscalar(3.03) and it was showing my cpu was set at 200mhz. this is a fresh flash of htc official wm5 rom so i found that odd. well i set it to 500mhz and ive been running it stable and smooth no problems. much faster, very obvious, will have to test more to see effect on battery but it does have settings to scale the cpu according to load. ymmv
cecrops said:
well i was experiencing very slow speeds and it seemed too sluggish for a 400mhz cpu. well i install xcpuscalar(3.03) and it was showing my cpu was set at 200mhz. this is a fresh flash of htc official wm5 rom so i found that odd. well i set it to 500mhz and ive been running it stable and smooth no problems. much faster, very obvious, will have to test more to see effect on battery but it does have settings to scale the cpu according to load. ymmv
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That might be a new release of xcpuscalar that does support the samsung cpu effectively.
Some people has tested that soft one year ago, but it appeared to be, even once set to 500 mhz only placebo effect. When check with other softs, the cpu speed remained the same.
Nevertheless, it's very odd that on a fresh bought device, you have only a 200mhz speed, half the normal one...
The Trinity run very slow sometimes, but this is a matter of optimisation of the ROM you are using, not necessarilly a problem with the cpu speed itself.
Another good and simple way to check your cpu speed is TCPMP. In any case, it's always better to double-check with another soft, rather than believe everything your overclocking soft says.
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That might be a new release of xcpuscalar that does support the samsung cpu effectively.
Some people has tested that soft one year ago, but it appeared to be, even once set to 500 mhz only placebo effect. When check with other softs, the cpu speed remained the same.
Nevertheless, it's very odd that on a fresh bought device, you have only a 200mhz speed, half the normal one...
The Trinity run very slow sometimes, but this is a matter of optimisation of the ROM you are using, not necessarilly a problem with the cpu speed itself.
Another good and simple way to check your cpu speed is TCPMP. In any case, it's always better to double-check with another soft, rather than believe everything your overclocking soft says.
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after more usage i uninstalled xcpu. when you first run the program it is set to default 200mhz which is why i thought thats what i was really at. TCPMP says im at 390-400 no matter what. better not to have too many programs running and loading at boot. also i tried pocket hack master but that didnt work either. ill stick to sktools and trinityhack, those registry tweaks are what i think i really needed.
Anyone else go from a Kaiser to a Raphael?
Raphael is due to hit my area in a day or two, want to know if i'll be happy swapping from the kaiser to the Raphael..
My big issues with the Kaiser I'm hoping the Raphael might solve:
1) Lack of video drivers & the overall slowness in response
2) keyboard missing keystrokes when typing faster then it can handle
Anyone have any feedback on those 2 areas? Will I see an improvement from the upgrade?
I've just made the move from a Kaiser and I've found the Raph's keyboard to be much more responsive and less laggy - it keeps up even when I type fast and the buttons are much more responsive.
With a lot of tweaking, I managed to get fairly decent video playback on my Kaiser using CorePlayer, and the Raph equals or betters this. It plays H.264 video files natively in Windows Media Player very smoothly, and high quality 3GP files are handled well too. If you want to play unoptimised Xvids or something like that, you'll need CorePlayer with QTV mode and the Kaiser compatibility option switched on to get best performance.
So to answer your question - yes you will notice an improvement on those two issues, and many more besides. Once you've used the VGA screen for an hour or so, you'll wonder how you ever managed with such a low res on your Kaiser
I would say go for it..... speed is better, keyboard better (although keys are smaller), screen (VGA), ram/rom (plenty of it), light sensor (not really that sensitive), g-sensor (nice toy so far, can be useful), stylus sensor (can be useful as well)..... plus the size is smaller not bulky like the kaiser....... conclusion : Im happy with the swap....
got 1 minus point to add..batt life sucks compared to kaiser. and man i thought my kaiser batt was bad.
kaiser normal usage=12 hours
tp normal usage 6-9hours
Omareo said:
... screen (VGA), ram/rom (plenty of it), light sensor (not really that sensitive), ... Im happy with the swap....
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ROLF.
How's about the same aplication on VGA eat up from 250% to 300% value spaces compare to QVGA? Are you happy with batt. life, too?
i wasn't happy with battery life on the kaiser........seem to have the same problem on the raph... if you are using it heavily it has to be charged twice a day, other wise you would still have 35% at the end of the day (9:00pm).....
Battery life obviously depends on usage, network conditions etc and therefore difficult to compare with other users. Ive found battery life on the raph to be better than the kaiser.
I charge mine once a week, but I turn it off during nights.
Hello,
Is there a possebilty to speed up my X7510 ?
Verry good device but bit slowly...
Same processor, the argument was discussed in ATHENA (X7500) forum. You can overclock it, but wait for a newest ROM and the speed and usage will be greatly improved!
Earlier advice was to use the XPUScaler app. to maintain the 624 Mhz speed. I did see someone report that they were successful in maintaining a regular higher speed, but I am also waiting to see what might happen on the ROM development side now that cmonex has helped the community yet again by producing Hard-SPL for our devices.
I can maintain mine at 663 and it is indeed very fast, but at 663 it is not fully compatible with certain applications such as pbar and Real VGA and I am not willing to give up those 2. So I run mine at constant 624 with NO PROBLEMS.
I have an overclocked Samsung Epic and it the improvement in speed in everyday use is significant. Because the processor voltage is set lower than stock there is no sacrifice in battery life. With the Asus Transformer do you get a definite and significant benefit from overclocking? I am not talking about test bench scores but real world noticeable responsiveness. When I skim through the forums it is difficult for me to tell? Some people swear by sticking with stock. I would appreciate others perspectives.
Thanks
The improvements from overclocking vary on the application.
Home screen switching is choppy regardless of overclocking simply because the launcher lacks optimization. Browser performance is improved a little bit, but mainly remains unchanged as well. Games run noticeably smoother, especially Fpse. Task switching gets a small boost, as some applications will be able to load faster.
If you're a big gamer, overclocking is definitely worth it. For everything else, it won't make much of a difference.
I haven't played too many games (mostly Stardunk and Stupid Zombies) on my TF, but I haven't noticed any issues with them. I have also played high profile 720p video with absolutely no stuttering or artefacts.
In other words, I haven't felt the need to overclock yet. But if you are doing heavy gaming and/or video processing of some kind, it might be worthwhile.
For me, there's hardly any need to OC. It all depends on what you wanna do. To many people who play a lot of games on their TF, they report increases in performance (especially with emulators) but on other things I never really noticed any difference. I'm currently underclocking my TF, and have been for about a week, with no noticable stutters or performance issues and have great battery life.
And it's not really an "effort" to flash a new kernel... the hardest thing is waiting for your device to boot up again...
I have a transformer, galaxy tab 10.1, and a xoom. I've used just about every kernel that can be overclocked for each one of them, and to be honest I haven't really seen any improvements from them. I don't really play many games on my tablets though, so maybe there really is some benefit in that area.
Galaxy's screen
How do you rate the screen of the Galaxy Tab 10.1? Is it as good as the Super AmoLED (+)'s from Samsung mobiles?
droidx1978z4 said:
I have a transformer, galaxy tab 10.1, and a xoom. I've used just about every kernel that can be overclocked for each one of them, and to be honest I haven't really seen any improvements from them. I don't really play many games on my tablets though, so maybe there really is some benefit in that area.
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This seems so counter-intuitive to me. If you overclock a PC CPU there is a very direct correlation with performance. There are always limiting factors such HD acess, etc., but there is a definite and noticeable difference across applications. What is even more surprising is that we are talking about very large % increases vs what people can do in the PC world. People are overclocking these CPUs by 50% plus...You would think you would see a very noticeable improvement but that doesn't seem to be the case.
My main interest is in browser performance. For example, XDA forum pages load extremely slow in all browsers I have tried (stock, Opera, Dolfin) with 5-6s to refresh vs instant on desktop browser. Also flash video tends to freeze and stutter some times. My internet connection is over 20Mb/s down and 5Mb/s up. I was hoping that I would find overclocking safe and provide a noticeable improvement.
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The improvements from overclocking vary on the application.
Home screen switching is choppy regardless of overclocking simply because the launcher lacks optimization. Browser performance is improved a little bit, but mainly remains unchanged as well. Games run noticeably smoother, especially Fpse. Task switching gets a small boost, as some applications will be able to load faster.
If you're a big gamer, overclocking is definitely worth it. For everything else, it won't make much of a difference.
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So for web page loading you haven't noticed much of a difference? How about flash video?
Thanks.
Overclocking can be a bit like collecting .. 'string' , because it is mostly done for the sake of itself, kind of like the many Ham Radio fans who talk about their "rigs", etc etc.
Yeah, of course if you can get, like in the old old days, a celeron 300 that overclocks to 450, and is dead stable, it was noticeable, and if you had a droid 1, which overclocked (many did) with ease from 500 to 1000+ , then it was again, noticeable, just not a staggeringly 2 times increase, because there are too many other factors.
The number of bus errors, and retries and slowness of the original bus speeds, and other components makes for a not-quite-as-expected by the numbers 'increase'. I would still mess with it, but not for the obvious reasons. I like under-volting more, and over-clocking only the slightest bit where nothing ever crashes or FCs. The moment you overclock, you really shouldn't be asking questions about 'Why does blah blah netflix crash?' because it crashes because you overclocked, and nothing else matters until you stick a kernel back at stock in there.
The other thing I love about alternate kernels is that you've got control of what modules you either compile in or compile and load as .ko files. cifs, tun, ntfs, whatever, it is all very useful, so there are lots of good and not-as-good things about it.
One thing I hate is when a dev insists on creating a kernel that has a 'default' speed greater than stock so that you've instantly got an ordeal if you've got one of the many gizmos that will not overclock to his default (like 1.6 to pick a number out of a hat).. Just make them all start at default, then allow us , the users, to setup overclocking via testing with setcpu or some such thing. Much easier than basically bricking things right off.
I sometimes look at those guys that overclock 'seriously' (by 3-4 times) using a container of liquid nitrogen that lasts for ~5 minutes and it is all for bragging rights, setting records , etc and think they're insane, but that is also part of it. Some are happy if they can just post here that they got 9,000 mF on some test despite not being able to do anything else reliably.
hachamacha said:
Overclocking can be a bit like collecting .. 'string' , because it is mostly done for the sake of itself, kind of like the many Ham Radio fans who talk about their "rigs", etc etc.
Yeah, of course if you can get, like in the old old days, a celeron 300 that overclocks to 450, and is dead stable, it was noticeable, and if you had a droid 1, which overclocked (many did) with ease from 500 to 1000+ , then it was again, noticeable, just not a staggeringly 2 times increase, because there are too many other factors.
The number of bus errors, and retries and slowness of the original bus speeds, and other components makes for a not-quite-as-expected by the numbers 'increase'. I would still mess with it, but not for the obvious reasons. I like under-volting more, and over-clocking only the slightest bit where nothing ever crashes or FCs. The moment you overclock, you really shouldn't be asking questions about 'Why does blah blah netflix crash?' because it crashes because you overclocked, and nothing else matters until you stick a kernel back at stock in there.
The other thing I love about alternate kernels is that you've got control of what modules you either compile in or compile and load as .ko files. cifs, tun, ntfs, whatever, it is all very useful, so there are lots of good and not-as-good things about it.
One thing I hate is when a dev insists on creating a kernel that has a 'default' speed greater than stock so that you've instantly got an ordeal if you've got one of the many gizmos that will not overclock to his default (like 1.6 to pick a number out of a hat).. Just make them all start at default, then allow us , the users, to setup overclocking via testing with setcpu or some such thing. Much easier than basically bricking things right off.
I sometimes look at those guys that overclock 'seriously' (by 3-4 times) using a container of liquid nitrogen that lasts for ~5 minutes and it is all for bragging rights, setting records , etc and think they're insane, but that is also part of it. Some are happy if they can just post here that they got 9,000 mF on some test despite not being able to do anything else reliably.
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Great post!
+1
Very philosophical ! ;-)
I guess what I am getting at is if you overclock to 1.2Ghz-1.3Ghz on the Transformer can you have a stable system that shows an appreciable improvement in responsiveness? Moving from hypothetical to actual...have you done this? Any specific kernel?
The engineer in me is looking for a definitive answer. ;-)
Thanks.
sstea said:
Very philosophical ! ;-)
I guess what I am getting at is if you overclock to 1.2Ghz-1.3Ghz on the Transformer can you have a stable system that shows an appreciable improvement in responsiveness? Moving from hypothetical to actual...have you done this? Any specific kernel?
The engineer in me is looking for a definitive answer. ;-)
Thanks.
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Yeah, I've done this, just not on the TF yet. I'm working on a kernel right now that doesn't have OC built-in and activated at boot, so that we can use setcpu to screw around with it and find that 'sweet spot' that works for us, also under-over-volting. What I'd really like is to build in all the modules I like, setup over/under-clocking-volting and have it boot at 1 G. I mean, a dual-core 1G is nothing to sneeze at, and then try to ramp it up without screwing with over-volting immediately. I never like other peoples ROMs or Kernels because they have made their own crazy judgement calls. I like my own crazy judgement calls
Here's what I've noticed: When you have 'up-to-date' technology , as we do, in the TF, then overclocking that is totally stable makes a difference and it is noticeable. For me it's the FC's that kill the deal, but this chip and box appear to have plenty of headroom so I'm guessing that 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 are all good possibilities.
Example: My HTC Incredible phone has been overclocked to 1.1 from 1.0G for ~a year or so, and it doesn't FC, and it is faster, noticeably than at 1. It's only a 10% increase and yet it feels much quicker, so go figure. Those things are also subjective, so grain of salt... Example2: A stock droid1 is one I took to a double overclock, 550 to 1000, and yes it was faster at some things, but the underlying infrastructure didn't really support the faster CPU so I really never noticed a 100% increase that matched the clock speed. I left it that way for a year without any damages and it still boots up fine at 1 G.
In another post I started, I was asking what keys were required to boot 'safe mode' which exists in android OSs, and if I knew that, I'd try one of the OC'd kernels right now. IF not, I don't feel like unbricking again.
If you're interested, here's a good link for building your own: (generic android, not TF really:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/rescue-squad-guides/31452-how-compile-your-own-kernel.html
Thanks for the response. With such a large community of Transformer users I am hoping to find a solid, conservative kernel that I can overclock with. Creating one myself is beyond my current technical capabilities.