I'm sorry for being so loud, but I've seen a few "progress pages" in Wikis and I still can't get a clear picture of who (if anyone) is actually working on linux for the HTC Magician (Qtek s100, iMate Jam, Dopod xxx, etc.).
I found this project:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README
and it appears to be very very promising; it already delivers some small functionality on the magician (I've tried it). But there is much much work to do before it can be released to the general public.
In general, I don't think there are many people working to get the Magician on Linux...
So I am asking here: are you working on this? do you know who is working on this?
I am a SW developer by trade, but I have no time at home to code.
However, I would like to give whatever little time I can find to:
- act as a beta tester;
- develop one or two patches (kernel mostly);
so we can get Linux running on the Magician.
Thank you.
Hi,
This doese indeed look promising.
I have no qualifications in software etc, but i do like fiddling with linux -).
I too would be a beta tester.
So is anyone working on this?
Hi. As vnevoa found out, I am working on the Magician when I find the time.
Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there is no-one else currently working on this. So developers are needed!
For people interested in kernel hacking, there is the [email protected] mailing list and the #htc-linux IRC channel on freenode.net
The biggest missing parts currently are battery control, sound and the phone.
For everyone else, any improvements to the Magician wiki pages would be more than welcome. To build a proper userspace image for the Magician, support for this machine in OpenEmbedded has to be improved.
Wow!
That haret thingy is wonderfull.
What is the current state of the version for the Magician? Does it boot to GPE?
This is a great thing, really. No need to flash a new firmware, and boot linux! Amazing. I'm using Linux on ipaq and it is very nice. But I would miss phone operation. With haret we can have both things running.
Good work. Has anyone tested USB host on magician under linux?
futaris said:
Good work. Has anyone tested USB host on magician under linux?
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USB host works, but it is not connected to the usb plug.
The bluetooth chipset is a CSR usb chip.
pH5 said:
USB host works, but it is not connected to the usb plug.
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does that mean, usbnet is not possible? in my case, nothing happens if i connect the magician to my computer. dmesg and lsusb say nothing about a new device. insmodding usbnet doesnt help either. tried the same with a htc universal, usbnet works fine on my machine.
[edit]works for now, if connected via external-powered usb-hub. maybe a driver problem? activesync in windows-mobile is possible without using the hub.[/edit]
And if you check the website you can see all teh file you need to download if anyone know a programm for make call/sms/mms or ONLY calls and run on this linux please give information about
ok i try this one in a few and i edit my post when i have test all
ok today the : 28.12.2006
mmmm i have some trouble with extracting the gpe archive it's seem to be corrupted soooo bad.
BUT the first problem it's this famous default.txt the script to run haret if anyone have a working script please copy information here of the .txt file that's can be helpfull.
the error of my default.txt is: Failed to load kernel \carte de stockage\zimage
must i need to rename the zimage file???
and i have a question ... it's possible to make a "bootable" SD? if yes i can try to run another handled linux perhaps???
OK i have found i must rename the magician-zimage-2.6.XXXX to : "zimage"
so i have downlaod latest version of haret and take the default.txt WITHOUT changing
harte start but of course i haven't the gpe file so it's say error BUT it's launch now i must really found a good archive i have try under linux but the archive still in read only i can't change it to read AND write so all i uncompress are still not working under linux it's better on windows don't know why .....
(mmm risk to brick my magician if i try another gpe file .......)
and of course: sorry for my bad english
now i edit the post when i have MORE important news
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Upgraded XDA2 running 2003 to an XDA Mini S running 2005. Programmes that I previously had running on 2003 (Amirsys/Elsevier -Pocket Radiologist series). Despite many suggestions and help from Elseviers techies in St Louis they now think it's an incompatibility that cannot be overcome. Has anyone any experience of patches etc or are these programmes now completely useless.
Having said that, I find the functionality of 2005 good with calls made and taken whilst running TomTom 5.21 - which is a vast improvement!
I think the only way is to watch out for a new version which is WM 5 compatible.
But I don't understand how u can make an XDA 2 to an XDA mini s with an rom upgrade? I think u mean something different.
cu
No. I've changed my XDA2 to an XDA Mini S (wizard) which is why I'm now using WM5. Kind of wish I'd stuck with WM3.
Looked in profiles but no option for newer phones
No. I've changed my XDA2 to an XDA Mini S (wizard) which is why I'm now using WM5. Kind of wish I'd stuck with WM3.
Looked in profiles but no option for newer phones
Hello k.griffin (& anyone else who is trying to get the Amirsys soft running under WM5),
I have some "older" programs that won't run on my new Wizard as well (including your example of Amirsys Pocket Radiologist, and, e.g. a PPC dictation program). I think this is an issue for everyone trying to migrate software to WM5 devices, and it is primarily associated with the new flash architecture of WM5.
I posted some questions regarding the Pocket Radiologist software to Elsevier, too. They said a WM5 version is being prepared but nothing has happend for quite a while now.
Interestingly, I have read forum posts that claim that by chance some people had discovered this software (and several other programs that usually can't cope with the WM5 flash architecture) will run after installing the "Arabizer" suite. This is said to be associated with changes in flash memory handling when this peculiar package is installed.
So my question to everyone who is familiar with WM5 and its memory structure: how plausible is that (at the moment I am thinking of ~1% ) ? I am rather unwilling to check it out blindly, because I am not fond of getting into long hours of installing and uninstalling tools for arabic character sets [that I don't need..] in vain..
Can anybody provide some statements on that ?
there is a hack for pocketradiologist so it work with wm5,
let me search it in my harddisk and will post it,but its seem its illegal
Arabizer
I installed Arabizer, but it doesn't makes a difference !
Who has the magical hack or can fix it in the registry ?
IPAQ RW6815
help
pdafre4k said:
there is a hack for pocketradiologist so it work with wm5,
let me search it in my harddisk and will post it,but its seem its illegal
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Can you say me if i can use pocketradiologist with wm5 and how ?
I'm in france but I love USA.
Tnx ([email protected])
Hey guys!
Send me that fix too please!!!
My email is [email protected]
See ya all
thank you all !
http://www.4shared.com/file/4123375/41e3e80e/pocketradiologist.html?s=1
at last found wm5 working version by ifalleni !
thanx for all the support folks.
When I try to install ADOCEforMIMSonPDA in the device or in the sd card says: "Failed to load resource DLL MSDAERES.DLL"
What can I do?
Tnhxs
jumanji1212 said:
When I try to install ADOCEforMIMSonPDA in the device or in the sd card says: "Failed to load resource DLL MSDAERES.DLL"
What can I do?
Tnhxs
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AFAIK the file "MSDAERES.DLL" is part of M$ VB runtime for PPC.
I will try to install it on my PDA this afternoon and let you know.
cheers.
I was able to install pocket radiologist without any problem.
First I installed ADOCE.WM5.CAB, then READER APPLICATION.PPC_2577.CAB and CHEST 100.PPC_2577.CAB.
It's quite good except the radiographs are quite small on PDA screen.
What operating system is on your PDA?
cheers.
ttangcho said:
I was able to install pocket radiologist without any problem.
First I installed ADOCE.WM5.CAB, then READER APPLICATION.PPC_2577.CAB and CHEST 100.PPC_2577.CAB.
It's quite good except the radiographs are quite small on PDA screen.
What operating system is on your PDA?
cheers.
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Hi ttangcho,
thanks for replying. My operating system is WM5. My pda is a qtek 9000 with Spanish Rom. I tried making a soft reset before installing it, and later I tried a hard reset getting the same message in both actions.
I first tried to install ADOCEforMIMSonPDA from WM5 file but i got that message. So couldn´t keep on going.
What would you recomend me?
Thanks in advance buddy
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Hi ttangcho,
What would you recomend me?
Thanks in advance buddy
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I'm using WM5 WWE and I installed it after hard reset.
Try to install Ms VB Runtime on your device first. This VB runtime includes "MSDAERES.DLL". I hope this work. By the way, I installed it successfully without VB runtime.
cheers,
ttangcho said:
I'm using WM5 WWE and I installed it after hard reset.
Try to install Ms VB Runtime on your device first. This VB runtime includes "MSDAERES.DLL". I hope this work. By the way, I installed it successfully without VB runtime.
cheers,
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I´ve got an error message when i install th Vb runtime too.
This is amazing!!! DOn´t know what to do
Any idea?
ok, now vb runtime is installed on my device in the main memory without any problem. I have also installed adoce without any problem on my sd card, but i cannot find the adoce files as a program or even in the file explorer.
do i need to install any of the modules first and then substitute by the crack file?
thanks for all your help guys
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ok, now vb runtime is installed on my device in the main memory without any problem. I have also installed adoce without any problem on my sd card, but i cannot find the adoce files as a program or even in the file explorer.
do i need to install any of the modules first and then substitute by the crack file?
thanks for all your help guys
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Good to hear that you were able to install the program. VB runtime is way too big to put in the main memory. If you want to install VB runtime on the RAMdisk or SD card, do the followings.
1. Create "\RAMdisk\Windows" directory
2. Open your reg edit program and add \RAMdisk\Windows\ in the SystemPath
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Loader]
"SystemPath"=\RAMdisk\Windows\ \Windows\..............
(Note. this is Multi_SZ)
or you can cut and paste the following and add to your registry.
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REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Loader]
"SystemPath"=hex(7):5c,5c,52,41,4d,64,69,73,6b,5c,5c,57,69,6e,64,6f,77,73,5c,\
5c,00,5c,5c,77,69,6e,64,6f,77,73,5c,5c,6f,65,6d,5c,5c,00,5c,5c,52,65,6c,65,\
61,73,65,5c,5c,00,00,00,00
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3. Soft Reset using SOFTWARE or power off and on couple of times and soft reset using your stylus.
4. Install VB run time on your RAMdisk.
This is how I did in order to install VB Runtime (3MB) and M$ .NET Compact platform 2.0 SP1(2.2MB) on the RAMdisk.
Cheers!
TTangCHo
thanks you all buddies, it worked, at the end, but worked!!!
now i can go with all pocket radiologist on my handheld device, it´s really amazing!!!
see ya in another life brother
lipe said:
http://www.4shared.com/file/4123375/41e3e80e/pocketradiologist.html?s=1
at last found wm5 working version by ifalleni !
thanx for all the support folks.
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Hi, the link is not working any more,.
any one who can upload it again please, or another link to download it,,???
Hello people,
I am trying to understand which linux edition can work on the magician.
as seen on http://linuxtogo.org/ , there are 3 versions:
Xanadux - http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/
GPE2 - http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org/
angstrom - http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
also, as i understand , the xanadux version is NOT fully finished.
has anyone tried them yet?
Roy
Yes, I tried http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ and it was nice!!
But some work still to do, like the bootloader part (for autoboot), suspend/resume and GSM.
GSM may have been fixed if it has been updated since (based on Linux PXA Mailing list)
You still need haret to boot on it, but a custom bootloader is possible, as it was done on ipaqs.
Works still to have be done before a full "usable" distribution, but it's on the way! I hope to help some weeks later (when my toolchain will be fully ready)...
PS: I had problems copying the filesystem to SDCARD because of USB2. Using USB1 it was working slow enough to copy all files to SDCard... Maybe it was a computer-only problem, but if you have same problem, try copying SLOWLY
I was looking ages for linux on my magician , but are there any tutorials for using those above linux roms ? I dont want to brick my magician , i dont have any other backup phone to use currently
It will just hard-reset your device after use.
You will load the Linux OS from the SDCard. Your device won't be damaged. It's safe!
What do I download ?
Hi,
I m on this forum after a long time. Sounds pretty good. Even I was hunting for linux for my Magician from ages. I checked out linuxtogo.org but didnt find which version to download and also the procedure. And also about booting from the SD card. Please halp me out...
question! can I install linux on my magician under windows XP? or I need a linux distro?
and second of all, how do I make to paritations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!
Read the installation instructions for the Universal
im new to this world and wanted to if it was better runnin linux or windows mobile?? can you run wm apps on da linux system and would it run properly?
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and second of all, how do I make to partations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!
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http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
It can now be done without a linux pc
i've tried it today. It a bit slow (on my pda) but it 's ok.
Give it try but do not forget to backup your data!
Has anyone ever tried to flash a rom or develop a rom that can be flashed by a Mac? I have Missing sync to sync my Tilt and to download .cabs and .exe's.
Works great by the way. I have flashed several roms from Windows XP on the " other side " of my Intel chip, so no problem there. Just wondering can it be done from the Mac side? And has anyone done it?
I have been using Macs and Apples for over 25 years ( started with Apple IIc) and never once had the urge to switch so comments from the "Apple Bashers" will mean nothing to me
Just curious.
no i'm not going bash apple but i haven't come across anything for mac and i believe the kaisercustomruu.exe can only be run only on windows
I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...
NotATreoFan said:
I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...
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I have flashed several roms using both Parallels and Bootcamp on the other side of my Intel/Mac chip and .exe file will not run on OS X but is it possible to create a rom using say a .dmg package instead of an .exe package?
The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only
I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
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The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only
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Obviously you can't just re-package under a different file extension. What " tools " are you refering to? Kitchen tools? Again just re-packaging. Leopard can run on an intel chip. Word, Excel, etc, can run natively on a Mac. Can you put together a rom or write one from scratch that can be downloaded natively to a Mac and then flashed to a Kaiser? Even theoretically?
You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!
Rayan said:
You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!
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It wasn't a "how do I flash a rom question " , I press a button and my screen twirls from OS X Leopard to Windows XP , I flash a new rom, press another button and my screen twirls back to Leopard and all my Mac apps. ( new Intel Chip for Mac)
The question was " what do the knowledgeable people here think? " Are there limitations of computer science that would prevent this or just limitations of available ground work that I could create?
Edit: I re-read this post and it sound kind of terse, I didn't meanit that way.
Thanks for your input Rayan
I see no reason why it would not be possible to flash a ROM natively inside Mac OS. But in order to do so, the flashing application written by HTC would need to be recoded to run on Mac.
If you extract the .exe file that is inside the rar file posted by the chefs here, you will see 5-10 files, one of which is the OS.nbh file. If you can write a program for Mac OS that can communicate with the Kaiser and call that file, then it would be possible. (DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a programmer, so it is a definite possibility that I could be talking out of my ass.)
Since flashing is not yet available to Linux users, then Mac is probably still a bit off.
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I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
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best option all around
Well, ever since I discovered the SD Card method I don't flash it through the PC anymore... No more fears of freezing up, power failures and such!
In fact, I carry several "test" ROMS in my card just to install them on the go whenever I'm bored! LOL...
Here's an answer from someone who is paid to write software....
You're correct there is no technical reason that you can't flash your phone from a Mac OS.
Basically the whole process is a few commands & responses sent across the USB port and then the nbh image streamed via the port to the waiting device.
Here's the bind: Microsoft is well known for not working well with others. Why would they be motivated to provide non-MS OS the ability to flash "Windows Mobile"? It's kind of like iTunes being able to integrate with non-iPod MP3 players as well as it works with iPods (or so I've heard).
Thanks all , it looks like I have my next project. Thanks for all your input. peterfnet and Rayan thanks when HTC comes out with their new rom update and new driver package at the end of the month I'm going the card method for a change.
Any one know if there exists tools to connect and burn roms from a linux box, instead of a windows? I'm not interested in burning a linux rom on to my tilt (not yet, anyway). Just using a linux desktop instead of windows. I have tried using windows from a vm, but had problems with the usb connection.
If you can point me to the source of the tools, I can, probably, help port them to linux. however, I'm guessing the tool that establishes the communication (handshaking) with the kaiser would be the bulk of the requirement.
Erol
If you mean flash ROMs, then use the sdcard method. Hope this helps.
You can also use WINE to run the app.
Kraize
if you actually searched you'd see there is already a tool, search for htcflasher. and its called flashing, not burning.
I flash off the card almost exclusively. I use the office computer for hardspl if there is an update, but a simple card reader and mepis is more than happy to help me swap roms.
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if you actually searched you'd see there is already a tool, search for htcflasher. and its called flashing, not burning.
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While "flashing" is the term that correctly describes the process that loads software into the phone, "burning" has for a very long time been a verb that describes writing to ROM. It's actually the use of "ROM" that is incorrect because the phone's memory is not really read-only.
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You can also use WINE to run the app.
Kraize
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Are you sure about that?
Just use Nero to burn ROM . LoL..
i think pof has released linux rom flasher..
HTC Flasher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762
you need to compile and insert the ipaq kernel module for it to work.
Personally, i still haven't got it working on gentoo (compiled from source) but im gonna try again later.
Havent had *any* luck using wine/vmware/virtualbox or any emulation as it messes with the USB. Active sync definitely doesn't work through wine.
theres a thread that explains how to root TVpad2 OS but also installing android but unfortunately Im still confused to where to begin...
Since I can't post outside links, I'll post the replies here:
this seems to indicate tvpad has onboard storage of ~4G which runs the applications, though i'm not sure about the function of each partiton. it doesn't seem to be easy to put a custom os such as 'openelec' into the storage through telnet. i think in order to do that, one needs to tether the box with linux machine first...
here's the guide that i'm trying to follow:
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^You are correct. Not going to be easy. At least I had many sleepless nights trying to find a way to put Android on TVPad1/2/3. Probably not going to help you with your Openelec project, but for Android I found an interesting article which is mostly related to TVPad2/3 (tcc8925 chipset): REMOVED . Never got much further with it since I never figured out how to put the TVPad2 into FWDN mode (bricked a perfectly working unit trying to figure that out). So I called it quits. I am a Windows guy though, so maybe for some Linux wizard it's a piece of cake.
^thanks for the info, it's good to know.
now i realized that putting 'openelec' won't be possible because onboard rom would require the firmware be loaded first since it contains drivers specific to the tvpad. however, it's unclear to me how one tethers tvpad2 to computer for editing and transferring firmware, since tvpad2 only has one standard usb port( a host usb?). and the linked guide utilizes a miniUSB to usb cable to link the CX-01 mini PC to computer for updating the firmware. anyway, these procedures seem too complicated to go through for what tvpad is worth.
this is a link i found that contains some info on flash fwdn image with pc to devices with TCC8902/TCC8803 chipset:
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Could anyone give me some insight? Thanks