Any one know if there exists tools to connect and burn roms from a linux box, instead of a windows? I'm not interested in burning a linux rom on to my tilt (not yet, anyway). Just using a linux desktop instead of windows. I have tried using windows from a vm, but had problems with the usb connection.
If you can point me to the source of the tools, I can, probably, help port them to linux. however, I'm guessing the tool that establishes the communication (handshaking) with the kaiser would be the bulk of the requirement.
Erol
If you mean flash ROMs, then use the sdcard method. Hope this helps.
You can also use WINE to run the app.
Kraize
if you actually searched you'd see there is already a tool, search for htcflasher. and its called flashing, not burning.
I flash off the card almost exclusively. I use the office computer for hardspl if there is an update, but a simple card reader and mepis is more than happy to help me swap roms.
vcysion said:
if you actually searched you'd see there is already a tool, search for htcflasher. and its called flashing, not burning.
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While "flashing" is the term that correctly describes the process that loads software into the phone, "burning" has for a very long time been a verb that describes writing to ROM. It's actually the use of "ROM" that is incorrect because the phone's memory is not really read-only.
Kraize92 said:
You can also use WINE to run the app.
Kraize
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Are you sure about that?
Just use Nero to burn ROM . LoL..
i think pof has released linux rom flasher..
HTC Flasher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762
you need to compile and insert the ipaq kernel module for it to work.
Personally, i still haven't got it working on gentoo (compiled from source) but im gonna try again later.
Havent had *any* luck using wine/vmware/virtualbox or any emulation as it messes with the USB. Active sync definitely doesn't work through wine.
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Hello people,
I am trying to understand which linux edition can work on the magician.
as seen on http://linuxtogo.org/ , there are 3 versions:
Xanadux - http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/
GPE2 - http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org/
angstrom - http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
also, as i understand , the xanadux version is NOT fully finished.
has anyone tried them yet?
Roy
Yes, I tried http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ and it was nice!!
But some work still to do, like the bootloader part (for autoboot), suspend/resume and GSM.
GSM may have been fixed if it has been updated since (based on Linux PXA Mailing list)
You still need haret to boot on it, but a custom bootloader is possible, as it was done on ipaqs.
Works still to have be done before a full "usable" distribution, but it's on the way! I hope to help some weeks later (when my toolchain will be fully ready)...
PS: I had problems copying the filesystem to SDCARD because of USB2. Using USB1 it was working slow enough to copy all files to SDCard... Maybe it was a computer-only problem, but if you have same problem, try copying SLOWLY
I was looking ages for linux on my magician , but are there any tutorials for using those above linux roms ? I dont want to brick my magician , i dont have any other backup phone to use currently
It will just hard-reset your device after use.
You will load the Linux OS from the SDCard. Your device won't be damaged. It's safe!
What do I download ?
Hi,
I m on this forum after a long time. Sounds pretty good. Even I was hunting for linux for my Magician from ages. I checked out linuxtogo.org but didnt find which version to download and also the procedure. And also about booting from the SD card. Please halp me out...
question! can I install linux on my magician under windows XP? or I need a linux distro?
and second of all, how do I make to paritations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!
Read the installation instructions for the Universal
im new to this world and wanted to if it was better runnin linux or windows mobile?? can you run wm apps on da linux system and would it run properly?
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and second of all, how do I make to partations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!
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http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
It can now be done without a linux pc
i've tried it today. It a bit slow (on my pda) but it 's ok.
Give it try but do not forget to backup your data!
Hello there,
This is probably a stupid question but.. here it goes! Is there anyway to do a ROM Upgrade using mac osx?
All the best,
Joao Oliveira.
sure! Just install Windows in either parallels or bootcamp!
Heh, only joking! It's possible to upgrade the ROM using the SD card, see the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
I've done this before on my TyTn 1 and it worked a treat, easier than using windows in some ways!
hi jcwacky, is it riskier flashing ROM using SD Card then through windows?
i know that i won't take risk using MAC though
just a question, how to instal file .exe using MAC? someone said i need to take the cab files out of the .exe but how? care to show? thanks mate.....
I use vmware to flash new roms. It has worked great for me and I've never had a problem. I'm not sure if this reason alone is good enough to justify installing parallels or vmware, but it does work.
As for installing .exe files, I use this program to extract the cabs:
http://echoone.com/filejuicer/
There is a free demo. It works forever, but watermarks images found in the .exe files. So you can get the cabs out just fine without registering.
thank you sooo much gthing!
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I use vmware to flash new roms. It has worked great for me and I've never had a problem. I'm not sure if this reason alone is good enough to justify installing parallels or vmware, but it does work.
As for installing .exe files, I use this program to extract the cabs:
http://echoone.com/filejuicer/
There is a free demo. It works forever, but watermarks images found in the .exe files. So you can get the cabs out just fine without registering.
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I've tried using parallels desktop but it did not work,if you are using paralles desktop too,what version you use
cheers
rock4mayo said:
I've tried using parallels desktop but it did not work,if you are using paralles desktop too,what version you use
cheers
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I don't use parallels anymore, I use vmware fusion. But the key to either solution is to make sure you map the usb port into the virtual machine. I believe OS X sees it as "generic RNIDS" or something like that. Just make sure that port gets routed to the virtual machine and you're fine.
hi gthing,
do u use microSD to flash your ROM? is it save? or through XP is more preferrable?
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hi gthing,
do u use microSD to flash your ROM? is it save? or through XP is more preferrable?
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I've never tried it through the MicroSD card. I prefer to use Windows XP for flashing.
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Just make sure whatever you do that you have HardSPL and you should be fine - windows or MicroSD.
I do ROM flashes using my gaming box. But FileJuicer is just what I need for doing day-to-day app installs. Thanks for the link!
Has anyone ever tried to flash a rom or develop a rom that can be flashed by a Mac? I have Missing sync to sync my Tilt and to download .cabs and .exe's.
Works great by the way. I have flashed several roms from Windows XP on the " other side " of my Intel chip, so no problem there. Just wondering can it be done from the Mac side? And has anyone done it?
I have been using Macs and Apples for over 25 years ( started with Apple IIc) and never once had the urge to switch so comments from the "Apple Bashers" will mean nothing to me
Just curious.
no i'm not going bash apple but i haven't come across anything for mac and i believe the kaisercustomruu.exe can only be run only on windows
I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...
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I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...
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I have flashed several roms using both Parallels and Bootcamp on the other side of my Intel/Mac chip and .exe file will not run on OS X but is it possible to create a rom using say a .dmg package instead of an .exe package?
The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only
I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
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The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only
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Obviously you can't just re-package under a different file extension. What " tools " are you refering to? Kitchen tools? Again just re-packaging. Leopard can run on an intel chip. Word, Excel, etc, can run natively on a Mac. Can you put together a rom or write one from scratch that can be downloaded natively to a Mac and then flashed to a Kaiser? Even theoretically?
You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!
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You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!
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It wasn't a "how do I flash a rom question " , I press a button and my screen twirls from OS X Leopard to Windows XP , I flash a new rom, press another button and my screen twirls back to Leopard and all my Mac apps. ( new Intel Chip for Mac)
The question was " what do the knowledgeable people here think? " Are there limitations of computer science that would prevent this or just limitations of available ground work that I could create?
Edit: I re-read this post and it sound kind of terse, I didn't meanit that way.
Thanks for your input Rayan
I see no reason why it would not be possible to flash a ROM natively inside Mac OS. But in order to do so, the flashing application written by HTC would need to be recoded to run on Mac.
If you extract the .exe file that is inside the rar file posted by the chefs here, you will see 5-10 files, one of which is the OS.nbh file. If you can write a program for Mac OS that can communicate with the Kaiser and call that file, then it would be possible. (DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a programmer, so it is a definite possibility that I could be talking out of my ass.)
Since flashing is not yet available to Linux users, then Mac is probably still a bit off.
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I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
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best option all around
Well, ever since I discovered the SD Card method I don't flash it through the PC anymore... No more fears of freezing up, power failures and such!
In fact, I carry several "test" ROMS in my card just to install them on the go whenever I'm bored! LOL...
Here's an answer from someone who is paid to write software....
You're correct there is no technical reason that you can't flash your phone from a Mac OS.
Basically the whole process is a few commands & responses sent across the USB port and then the nbh image streamed via the port to the waiting device.
Here's the bind: Microsoft is well known for not working well with others. Why would they be motivated to provide non-MS OS the ability to flash "Windows Mobile"? It's kind of like iTunes being able to integrate with non-iPod MP3 players as well as it works with iPods (or so I've heard).
Thanks all , it looks like I have my next project. Thanks for all your input. peterfnet and Rayan thanks when HTC comes out with their new rom update and new driver package at the end of the month I'm going the card method for a change.
hey guys im trying to use virtualBox on my Ubuntu machine. Im trying to run windows 7. Got it all set up and loaded with no problems. Heres where I cant get passed.
Im trying to get VB to utilize the entire screen space. Ive read through all the articles about installing the additions iso. I cant seem to find a good copy. Also I cant get Odin to recognize my phone either. I have USB set up in VB and can access the files on phone but cant get Odin to recognize it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You can install guest additions from within VirtualBox. It shows up as a mounted CD drive. Open it, & run the appropriate script.
If your ultimate goal is to use Odin, though, I don't think it will work through VirtualBox. Maybe it's possible, but I think it needs direct access to the USB. You could just dual-boot Windows & do it directly.
Thanks for the info
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You can install guest additions from within VirtualBox. It shows up as a mounted CD drive. Open it, & run the appropriate script.
If your ultimate goal is to use Odin, though, I don't think it will work through VirtualBox. Maybe it's possible, but I think it needs direct access to the USB. You could just dual-boot Windows & do it directly.
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thanx for the info dude. I guess i just assumed i could get it to work in a virtual machine. Could have swore Ive seen Adam doing it...mind u he is MUCH MUCH more educated than me. That is my goal. I have a linux machine and wanna use odin to flash Adams Odin root file for the Note 2. No problem running his CASUAL program, but need to root it first and as far as I can tell it needs to be done in Windows. I guess I can always turn a spare computer back into a windows machine...just didnt wanna have to go through the headache,.
Well, you can boot off a Ubuntu install disk (or make a GParted Live USB), then use gparted to resize your Ubuntu. Set a few GB aside for a new partition, then install Windows there, instead of installing Windows in the VM. It ends up being the same thing, just a few more steps to get it running.
Just make sure you back up your grub config and mbr. I don't think Windows would make your Ubuntu install vanish, but ya never know...
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Im trying to get VB to utilize the entire screen space.
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Oh, yeah. The default command to switch to fullscreen mode is Host+F, where the default Host key is Right Ctrl (so, RightCtrl+F).
Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?
zq6559636 said:
Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?
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you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)
darth_nihar said:
you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)
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the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.
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the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.
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Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....
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You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....
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I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim
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I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim
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True but as you said they removed the ubuntu scripts after the 2.3.6 roms so integration into ics cant be done unless we actually sit and write the code for it or say port it from the earlier versions emulators work pretty fine but i was thinking why not make a standalone version which can be run on bmm as another rom that would make it better in the performance perspective as the base android rom would not be using the cpu resources.... give a thought on that concept or even porting ubuntu touch to atrix 2 would be gr8 but the locked bootloader could be a issue
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Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.
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Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.
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With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".
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With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".
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Jim is there anyone trying to port the Ubuntu touch to the Atix 2
why not try to bring this new thing over .........
Because you need an unlocked bootloader. Ubuntu touch uses its own bootloader, just like the full Ubuntu desktop uses lilo. Besides it is still really alpha. Things still do not fully work. Music and video playback is still broken.
If you must give it a try you MUST have a phone with a fully unlocked bootloader. Any nexus phone or the sgs3/4 or one of the note phones, etc.
I wish we could port it, but without the bootloader it is impossible at this point. Kexec will not boot the kernel, yet.. I say yet, because I am sure we can crack that eventually.
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