anyone made the jump? how do you rate them?
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The treo lacks Wifi and HSDPA. A little slow compared to the Tytn (300MHz)
It is more sexy though!!
looks too much like an old blackbarry device imho
not a design after my taste but each to their own i guess
Treos or anything with a qwerty keyboard with easy access (like under the screen) is great. I would use the Treo 700w or 750, but I don't like the screen dimension. The keyboard works great for contact search and one handed data entry.
Treo vs TyTn, I would get tytn. (I got a tytn, no good enough device for how much I spent on it. My camera die on me)
Bottom line, the great for one handed use. I miss their form factor, but the square screen is horrible.
I would go for the Tytn without a doubt.
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Ive been using a HTC Wizard with PI. and I especially prefer the week view (7days).
I was wondering what the week view looks like on the Treo's square screen. How much information is visible?
can anybody post a screenshot?
I have PI running on my treo and it looks the same like on a regular Qvga screen, Only it looks a bit smaller. It shows the same amount of information.
I don't have any screenshot soft at the moment on my device, but will try this weekend to make a screenshot.
I used PI on my tytn and now on the treo and for me theres no difference in the way it looks.
Here is a sample of the Week view from PI
Just an FYI... PI has a built-in screenshot capturing tool.
In PI, go... Menu > Tools & Settings > Utilities > Screenshot
It saves it in your My Documents folder.
Hope this helps.
Sealos
thanks, looks pretty small.
Im looking for a new device and still doubting between the treo 750v and the HTC TyTn (Or MDA VarioII).
I used to have a MDA Vario, but it got stolen.
I like the larger screen, but I also like the front facing keyboard. I found myself getting annoyed with sliding out the keyboard all the time.
Is there anyone who went from a 'large' screen device to the treo 750? Do you miss the extra screen space?
I sold my tytn for a treo 750. I still don't regret it. the form factor of the treo is much better to me.
The tytn is a pretty good device, it got it all, except the simplicity of the treo.
My treo is also much faster then my tytn.
About the screen, indeed you have less space. It is smaller.
I noticed that i need less plugins for my today screen because the software from the treo is using the small screen very well.
So, no i don't miss the large screen from the tytn, i get more usability instead from the treo.
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I sold my tytn for a treo 750. I still don't regret it. the form factor of the treo is much better to me.
The tytn is a pretty good device, it got it all, except the simplicity of the treo.
My treo is also much faster then my tytn.
About the screen, indeed you have less space. It is smaller.
I noticed that i need less plugins for my today screen because the software from the treo is using the small screen very well.
So, no i don't miss the large screen from the tytn, i get more usability instead from the treo.
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1 agree with luminus. I never regretted selling my Tytn. The 750v is much more stable and is a pleasure to use. you get used to the screen size - really!
I guess my next PDA will be one of those. Up to now I was convinced it would be the P3600i, but TyTN II show muscles too. What do you people think?
What is important for me is that the device is:
1) Solid. I remember my HTC Wizard sliding in my pocket, very annoying.
2) Small (and especially thin). I want (and I guess everybody else ) the smallest device will the most features. I haven't missed much the keyboard of my Wizard since I've switched to Prophet, but it's handy nevertheless. Can someone compare the thickness of both?
3) Fast! My XDA Neo (HTC Prophet) drives me crazy sometimes with its slow CPU.
3.1) Can you compare the CPUs of both - 400Mhz vs 500 Mhz Samsung?
3.2) Can you compare the 64MB P3600i with the 128MB Kaiser?
4) Overall impression. Anyone?
if i wanted keyboard i would get kaiser
if not i would get polaris not 3600i
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if i wanted keyboard i would get kaiser
if not i would get polaris not 3600i
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Have you tried the navigation with the scrolling wheel? It's just awful No way I can prefer the wheel over the D-Pad..
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Have you tried the navigation with the scrolling wheel? It's just awful No way I can prefer the wheel over the D-Pad..
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I agree with Rudegar's choice. Only thing needs to be mentioned: Polaris seem to be VGA 3.5" screen so it might be to big for your expectation.
I have a HTC universal and as it is to heavy for some occasions I just last week bought a HTC Hermes .
After 2 days usage I given it to my wife. it is good as a phone but when it comes to PDA it is to small.
My opinion! HTC has really missed to produce and improve such devices like the HTC Himalaya (3.5" screen)
Damn I would love to have the Polaris with keyboard.
Hi all,
My wife's Treo 650 (PalmOS) is dying and she's considering an upgrade to the Treo750. I was very happy to find out that the Treo750 is a HTC device as I began to research on the 750. I have owned an SMT5600 and imate JAM (HTC Magician) before, and now am a proud owner of HTC Touch. I have had very good experience with HTC phones, and honestly I don't think I'll be using another brand ever again in my life
Anyways, even though it will be my wife's phone, I will be the one installing programs, setting it up and tweaking it for her. That's fine, cos I really enjoy it and is the reason why I like PDA-phones. She liked the 650 because it used a Palm OS, which was simpler than WM. But that's fine, as I plan to install launchers that keep things simple and easy for her.
My biggest concern of the 750 though, is it uses a 240x240 screen. I just don't know if I can install regular PPC softwares that are designed for QVGA resolution on it.
She isn't a 'power user' but does require softwares like MSN Messenger, email applications (I use Flexmail), internet browser (Opera Mini is what I use now) as well as the regular PIM applications. I wonder if these software work well in 240x240 resolution.
What's your experience with installing softwares on the Treo750? Is the odd-ball screen size a concern most of the times?
And what's your overall experience with the Treo750?
Thanks in advance,
Go for it and don't look back. I had an HTC Wizard and the Treo 750 is MUCH easier to use. Not as many roms but the day to day use more than makes up for it. I like to try a lot of software and I've only run into one issue with task switching program, otherwise no issues at all. Good luck.
I too have an HTC 8525. I bought a Palm 750 off eBay relatively cheap and popped my SIM card in it so I could see if I wanted to use a 750 more than my 8525.
What I like about the 750 is the keyboard in the front, and the one-handedness use of it vs. my 8525 slide out keyboard and thus requires the use of both hands.
What I like about the 8525 is the fact that it DOES have a slide out keyboard and the keys are bigger than the 750. I also like the larger 240 x 320 screen. I REALLY would love that on the 750.
The other thing that was already mentioned is the ROM's. I put vp3G 3.62.3 on my 8525 and it's terrific. I put the WM6.1 ROM on the Treo (HardSPL required) and that is nice too but it could use more features.
All in all, if screen size isn't a show stopper for you, go with the Treo. I would highly recommend loading MagicButton on it so when you close apps, they truly close instead of staying resident in memory and causing you to bring up task manager to end them all. On the 8525 I use HTC X-Button for this. And it includes an awesome task manager on the home screen in the top right corner.
If you do choose an 8525, I don't think you can go wrong. It's a great solid phone.
I too went through several smartphones before i landed on a Treo 750. Had the Moto MPX220, the 8125, then finally the Treo 750. I have to be hoenst. The 750 wasn't my first choice, but was forced to due to availablility and the need for the 3G connectivity and for a better QWERTY keyboard. Not that the 8125 keyboard was bad, but was looking for something I could type one handed. However, for the 8 months i had this, it was a very good experience. Now with the upgrade to WM6, it is even better.
I would agree that the screen being the square 240 x 240. It may leave you wanting more screen space, but you or your wife will get used to it. It is still functional, if not with alittle more scrolling in some apps.
The keyboard maybe small, but will get used to it very fast. It's very functional, and being a Treo user already, not much of a transition.
I do want to say that the battery life is not great, barely lasts a day...even with minimal useage. From what I read, it's because the of 3G signal, which is famous for sucking the life out of 3G phones from AT&T, but an extended battery will help greatly. But that will make the phone alittle fatter, but worth it. Not saying that the OEM battery is that bad, but you may want to consider a car charger or take a power plug around.
Other than that, being a WM phone...that opens up alot of free apps that would do nothing by enchance the 750. Would I recommend it now....oh heck yes.
Hope that this helps, and good luck
Thanks for all the feedbacks guys ... let's keep them coming!
The screensize isn't a problem. She is using the Treo 650 right now, so it's the same screen size. I am more concerned about software compatibility. As long as (most) PPC / WM programs can be installed on the Treo 750 like regular PDA's, I don't mind the smaller screen.
I suggested the TyTn to her, but her problem is she has a bad habit of dropping the phone ... with her current Treo 650, she puts a hard cover on it and it protects it well from falling. With the TyTn's slide out keyboard, there's no cover of any sort available, and a pouch is too much hassle. Without a cover, she's worried the phone will be badly scratched and dented, if not broken within a month.
Her requirement for the next phone is touchscreen (that eliminates all blackberry's and smartphones), hard button QWERTY keyboard and no slide out keyboard (so you can put hard cover on). I thought hard and long about this and the only phone that meet all 3 requirements is the Treo 750.
The 3G doesn't do a lot for her ... she doesn't use the phone as a modem, and her internet use from the phone is limited to emails, MSN Messenger, and occasionally some light surfing. The fact Treo 750 doesn't even have a camera on the front for video calling makes the 3G even more useless for her.
She'd gladly trade 3G for wifi actually, too bad that's not how it comes in. Speaking of wifi, I understand the Treo supports the Spectrum wifi miniSDIO card. My concern is the Spectec mini SDIO card is a little longer than regular SD card from what I know, because of the antenna. Doesn't that prevent the SD card cover from closing?
Wifi is not a must but a nice to have. Other than that, it sounds like Treo is the most likely candidate at this point. Given her 3 requirements, doesn't seem like there are a lot of choices neither.
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Thanks for all the feedbacks guys ... let's keep them coming!
The screensize isn't a problem. She is using the Treo 650 right now, so it's the same screen size. I am more concerned about software compatibility. As long as (most) PPC / WM programs can be installed on the Treo 750 like regular PDA's, I don't mind the smaller screen.
I suggested the TyTn to her, but her problem is she has a bad habit of dropping the phone ... with her current Treo 650, she puts a hard cover on it and it protects it well from falling. With the TyTn's slide out keyboard, there's no cover of any sort available, and a pouch is too much hassle. Without a cover, she's worried the phone will be badly scratched and dented, if not broken within a month.
Her requirement for the next phone is touchscreen (that eliminates all blackberry's and smartphones), hard button QWERTY keyboard and no slide out keyboard (so you can put hard cover on). I thought hard and long about this and the only phone that meet all 3 requirements is the Treo 750.
The 3G doesn't do a lot for her ... she doesn't use the phone as a modem, and her internet use from the phone is limited to emails, MSN Messenger, and occasionally some light surfing. The fact Treo 750 doesn't even have a camera on the front for video calling makes the 3G even more useless for her.
She'd gladly trade 3G for wifi actually, too bad that's not how it comes in. Speaking of wifi, I understand the Treo supports the Spectrum wifi miniSDIO card. My concern is the Spectec mini SDIO card is a little longer than regular SD card from what I know, because of the antenna. Doesn't that prevent the SD card cover from closing?
Wifi is not a must but a nice to have. Other than that, it sounds like Treo is the most likely candidate at this point. Given her 3 requirements, doesn't seem like there are a lot of choices neither.
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Hi there,
My love affair with PDAs,
1. Palm Zire 72 -> Great PDA till screen crack
2. Palm Treo 650 -> So fast, so easy, damn good phone, now my wife is using it and she fell in love with it too
3. HTC Universal -> Major dissapointment, but love the big screen though, nice for Wifi browsing, messaging and video playback, but sucks big time for a phone
5. Palm Treo 750 -> half of what Palm Treo 650 was.... except for 3G functionality and slightly better camera, Treo 650 will top this anytime of the day
My recommendation to you, stick with Palm OS, 300% faster and stable and more sensible, dont worry about applications, the one built in is good enough, but you may want to get ZLauncher, TCPMP apps in.. the Toysoft Lightwav Pro is an excellent piece of call management software for the Palm OS.... There are new Palm OS devices just launched.. can check out those...
Just my 2 cents...
I have been using a TyTN/Hermes with WM6 for a year now. As my warranty is ending, I'm thinking about switching to another device and letting this one on eBay while it's in good condition.
I liked the TyTN but if I have to cope with a slide out keyboard I'd rather have no keyboard at all. I'd love to have a frontal keyboard for quickly typing stuff (something I loved on my Treo 650), but no keyboard is fine, too.
I do a lot of web browsing using Opera 8.65 and 9.5 and my TyTN is a bit slow so I'm looking for a device with more RAM than this one.
Here's some stuff I need:
-Wi-Fi
-Frontal keyboard or no keyboard (no sliding mechanism)
-128mb of RAM for Opera
And some stuff I'd like:
-GPS
-VGA
As for data speeds, I don't care. Same goes for bluetooth and battery life.
My current interests are the upcoming Treo Pro (probably too expensive) and the HTC Touch Enhanced but I don't really know what's on the market right now. The Treo 750 was perfect except it has no Wi-Fi and I don't pay for data right now.
I'd like something I could get for under 250$ on eBay, if possible.
i was gonna say the diamond till i saw the price range.... i would have to say that the htc touch is my recommendation, but no wifi in CDMA, and less memory with GSM but with wifi
Well, if you want a fast, I mean fast, device, get the Touch. Will do everything you need, except it has no WiFi and is QVGA. Judging by what you want, you'll have to cope with something your not looking for.
You might actually want to look at some smartphones. The s740 is HTC newest one, based on diamond design scheme, 256mb ram is totally monster (and maybe even overkill) and has dual keyboards.
no other smartphones from HTC seem to match your specifications, and the s740 definitely wont meet your price range. Actually, very few phones do, unless they're carrier-subsidized, which may be a better option than ebay.
if you have alot of money, id say get a samsung omnia
I like the touch for the price, but if I have to go for higher prices, I will ask for GPS, frontal keyboard and horribly fast hardware.
The Treo Pro might be just that, but it's not out yet...
EDIT: The Rogers HTC Touch has Wi-Fi, 256mb of ROM and 128mb of RAM, suits me pretty well and I'm still trying to get one on eBay. They are almost getting rare! There's the Asus Galaxy too but they are nowhere to be found.
EDIT2: If I can find the Touch, I'll go for it, but did anyone switch from a TyTN to a Touch Enhanced?
EDIT3: Little did I know about the existence of the Touch Cruise!
I need a new phone, I hope someone can help me decide. Currently using a Nokia E71x, but I need a WM device so I can run Communicator Mobile to IM with my colleagues. I will need a touch screen device (WM Pro), preferably candy bar with qwerty keyboard (non-slider) however I'm willing to try a slider again, if I can easily one-hand type on it (drive-n-type). Also willing to try one without qwerty like iPhone or Blackstone. It absolutely must be responsive, if I cant make a call immediately without waiting for my device to "do it's thing" it the most irratating thing in the world...!
Here are some phones I've recently owned:
E71x - A good phone. It is crippled compared to the E71, but it's stable and does the job, also has fast GPS lock, and overall minimal lag on this device.
E75 - Lot's of lag, build quality not as good as E71 (keys were flimsy) and it seemed buggy, maybe I had a bad one.
Treo Pro - Great form factor, very laggy OS (not enough RAM in this thing?), poor build quality (case crack), poor battery life.
E71 - Awesome phone, was only missing touch screen, otherwise perfect, work made me ditch it.
Touch Pro - Seemed a bit laggy to me, not very durable (plastic feeling).
Tilt - Seemed laggy, wasn't liking the keyboard.
Treo 750 - No comment.
Yeah, I'm pretty picky.. I'm liking the Blackstone T8285 but I think it's out of my price range. What about the Xperia X1, is that a pretty responsive device? I recall seeing a review (phonedog I think) and he was suprised it was quite laggy. Are there any phone with like 600mhz-1000mhz proc and 512MB that are afforable?
Thanks for all/any help!
Rezilient
You can buy a samsung i780, it isn't an htc but there are cooked roms for it even in this forum
ilMessia said:
You can buy a samsung i780, it isn't an htc but there are cooked roms for it even in this forum
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Hmm that a really old phone though, I bet it's as slow or slower than my Treo 750 was.
How is the Xperia? Anyone?
Edit: Oh I see why you suggested it, it has 600mhz proc. Hmmmm... Anyone have this device??
Go for the HTC TP2 now, then trade up to a used Leo later