my contract is almost up and im thinking of changing my phone. I currently have an HTC S710 Vox and I can honestly say its been the best phone ive ever owned by a long way. Now im thinking of replacing and I wondered what people thought of the new handsets coming onto the market.
What I Like :
Its a smartphone, before anything else this is a phone and does what a phone should do. I like having a front keyboard and I like being able to text onhanded when im on the move. If im honest i never use the slideout keyboard. Windows mobile 6.1 is excellent and with the newer faster ROMS works smoothly - push email syncing to exchange make this a killer device.
what it lacks :
The camera is poor -ideally a 3.2megpixel with autofocus should be the minimum
3g support
Its a tad bulky
GPS is a nice to have but not essential
So what i want is a smartphone that adds the missing functionality (mainly a good camera) and possibly removes the qwerty keyboard to reduce bulk.
The new Sony X1 and Samsung Omnia seem to tick many boxes - but I lose the front keyboard which for me keeps it a real phone and not a pda hybrid.
What are your thoughts - what are my options ?
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The Samsung I780 it a PPC With SP Look and The Camera on Samsung Devices Always Look Good.
im thinking HP oak or HP silver may fit the bill
ironically all I really want is an HTC S710 with 3g added, the qwerty keyboard removed and a good camera.
then my life would be sorted
my contract is almost up and im thinking of changing my phone. I currently have an HTC S710 Vox and I can honestly say its been the best phone ive ever owned by a long way. Now im thinking of replacing and I wondered what people thought of the new handsets coming onto the market.
What I Like :
Its a smartphone, before anything else this is a phone and does what a phone should do. I like having a front keyboard and I like being able to text onhanded when im on the move. If im honest i never use the slideout keyboard. Windows mobile 6.1 is excellent and with the newer faster ROMS works smoothly - push email syncing to exchange make this a killer device.
what it lacks :
The camera is poor -ideally a 3.2megpixel with autofocus should be the minimum
3g support
Its a tad bulky
GPS is a nice to have but not essential
So what i want is a smartphone that adds the missing functionality (mainly a good camera) and possibly removes the qwerty keyboard to reduce bulk.
The new Sony X1 and Samsung Omnia seem to tick many boxes - but I lose the front keyboard which for me keeps it a real phone and not a pda hybrid.
What are your thoughts - what are my options ?
(i crossposted this in the main smartphone thread because I thought it was relevant discussion in both places - sorry if you have seen it twice)
I'm looking forward to the HP Oak, same form factor as the Vox but with a flush front touch screen.
If not that, then the E71 or HTC Touch Pro will be my next device.
I'm almost due for a new phone as well and my biggest options are TYTNII or Touch Pro.
Recently been looking at the Samsung i570 or i620. Too bad they are only tri-band, what is up with that. The i570 would be a buy for me since it has WiFi, but not being quad is a real damper.
Hi all!
Time to part with my old (but still very good phone!) Motorola V6 maxx.
Now i need something more advanced. Features i desire most are:
1. Personal manager (organizer, calendar, appointments, contacts etc.)
2. GPS (yes, i need it in same device - i am riding a motorcycle thus i cant get with me tons of hardware. One device is more than i can take sometimes!)
3. Phone with at least UMTS (3G). HSDPA not required. (reason - read 2).
4. WiFi (not a must-have, but good to have).
5. Some camera (2MPix is more than enough).
6. Possibility of customization - i like it to work the way i want, not what manufacturer intended to do.
I'v had Siemens SX1 some time ago - but Symbian isnt for me. I prefere Win Mobile My wife got recently HTC Touch Dual - beside lack of GPS it is awesome. Has everything what i need. Beside GPS...
I have one favorite - HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris). But i am not sure if i wont find something better. I like TouchFLO - no need for stylus in most cases. I also considered Eten X800, but i'v read many bad things about Etens in general (even bad things about SirfStar III in it - but i think it is a little better than Qualcomm or w/e is in HTC). I want you to post some pros/cons for different devices. 800-900$ tops. Just point me some device and write some pros (you like most in it) and cons (you hate something in it). I dont care if it will be VGA or lower res. I want functionality and speed (some old 100MHz with 32MB ram is rather not too fast ;P )...
Cheers!
I think HP 614c is the perfect one for you. It has everything ;]
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/e...48-64929-3352590-3352590-3544358-3544385.html
Looks nice, but GPS... Assisted GPS requires my provider to have some special A-GPS Servers. I have aGPS in my current motorola - no success to use it in Poland... No provider offers here AGPS servers :/ Beside it requires patment for data transfer So lets talk about SirfStar, Qualcom or other real, hardware GPS receiver built in.
Also i prefere touch-only or sliders. I dont like the look of whole keyboard all the time.
What you think about this one?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
It seems to cover all your needed points.
Or if you want to spend more money this is the best!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_advantage_x7510-2267.php
Cheers
Touch Pro - looks cool. But not for me. I just dont like (or even hate) look of this shiny thing. For woman - ok. But for me - nah Beside it costs 30% more than mentioned polaris. Now i am also considering Kaiser - it is much cheaper in Poland If Touch Pro would cost same $$$ as polaris (or less) - then ok. But i dont want to pay for look and fancy 3D TouchFlo... I prefer usability over design and fireworks (and those can lower overall speed of device, altho Pro has quiet a bunch of RAM and ROM!).
Advantage - rather impossible to take it on motorcycle and use it as GPS Too big! And too pricy - i dont need it. For pure PC stuff i have my thrustworthy notebook
If no other suggestions - i am now considering Polaris (a bit pricy tho), Kaiser (nice "brick" - i like it) or some Eten (X800 preferably - cheaper than both mentioned above)... But Eten doesnt sound good to me...
polaris is allmost as shiny though
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images/stories/Polaris/compare1.jpg
Yeah, but it looks like metal. Diamond is plain black thus looks like plastic toy for me.
I think i will go for Kaiser. If only P3470 had better CPU... :/ Matte plastic looks better than shiny one! Or Artemis... But lack of RAM and CPU power can slow it down a bit.
misioooo,
Just wait a few days for the Palm Treo Pro:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419354
It's a WM6.1 device with all of your wished specs and a nice "iphone design"
Looks nice but not for me. I mentioned earlier that i dont like open keyboard. Beside flat surface (like iPhone) looks odd to me. And price... I doubt i will get it for ~400$ (price of new imported Kaiser in Poland). If price were good for this Pro i could buy it - but not with keyboard visible all the time.
BTW - why you are so eager to advise me something different from Kaiser? I know about it flaws (lack of proper chipset drivers, battery drain after using GPS bug and few others). And it has everything i need + some extra. And i believe that HTC will solve "drivers problem" for all their phones someday... For now i cant say anything bad about Nike performance (didnt tested GPS obviously). And lack of proper drivers for me is minor flaw (using phone more for business and contacts than multimedia).
Maybe there is something more to it that noone suggests me Kaiser? Is it bad or something?
And is it really needed to have 128MB RAM memory onboard? I se lot of devices nowadays (new ones) that have 64 RAM. Is the difference in performance visible between 128 and 64MB? CPU of course makes the difference - no discussion here (200 vs 400MHz, even without drivers prolly).
Or maybe i should get older Wizard?
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I meant Hermes of course. But it has GPS or not? From what i read it has build-in GPS receiver but some PINs are disconnected physicaly and stock ROM also has it disabled (who cares about stock ROM?). Also 400MHz CPU is enough. But is 128ROM/64RAM enough?
Also if 64RAM is enough Trinity looks awesome, costs less than Kaiser and has all the functions i want (including built-in, working GPS receiver).
Since I got my first Universal (JasJar) some 2 years back, I have tried several other alternatives, including TyTN 2, HTC Touch Pro, and even Toshiba G910. I have always come back to the Universal. In fact, when I broke my JasJar, I replaced it with Vodafone V1640. I have come to conclude that the Uni is the closest to my ideal PDA/phone for a business user.
But I regret one or two things about the Universal, and I honestly wish we would have a Universal 2 to address these snags. My short wish list for Universal 2 are is follows:
1) Retain the present format - don't change the form factor; it is simply great as it is. Forget those who say it is too heavy or bulky - they don't know what they want. (If weight is your problem, then don't ask for a comfortable keyboard and a large screen as you have in the Uni.)
2) Give it 256MB RAM. This is by far the biggest issue with the current Uni with 64MB RAM. Often when I run something like TextMaker (SoftOffice), the device runs out of memory.
3) Make the stylus holder more secure. Either let it click into place or have a magnetic slot to secure it, like the HTC Touch Pro.
4) Make the SD card slot more secure - perhaps with a cover. As it is, it pops out rather easily.
5) Have a built-in GPS
Any further ideas for Universal 2?
We can fantasize all we want but we aint going to get it! There wont ever be a Uni 2 for sure....atleast i'm pretty convinced about it.
I just broke my uni a few weeks ago and couldnt help but buying another one...(was quite a struggle to find a seller!). I too love the form factor and ergonomics of the uni - simply brilliant.
Anyway, I guess I'll just wait up for a while until there is something like the TyTN 2 where you can tilt the display on the Touch pro and I might just buy one of them! Or the Touch HD Pro - if there will ever be one!
Cheers!
San
Anyway, for the "wishlist" I'd basically want a built in GPS, a better 3D accelerated graphics card, MORE RAM & storage, and an outside smaller display if possible!
Video out would be essential for me, & with that hardware run GFX.
Sadly I dont think there will be a Universal 2, although I wish they would. The line between laptop, PDA and mobile phone has blurred so much, all I really wish is that the mobile industry in general stops limiting the capabilitys of hand held devices (e.g. Iphone) with closed platforms, limiting hardware capabilities and add expansion ports.
Dear rsawoseyin,
You have a Grate Idea about Universal. I also love Universal very much.
If the Universal is made according to the Specs given by you and some other features, like Multitouch Display, Accelerometer, etc., like in iPhone, then it would become Deam Machine!!!!!!!!
So, you request the iMate or HTC to create such type of Universal.
Regards,
Shakeel Ahmed,
Datacom Engineer,
HUAWEI Technologies (Pvt.) Ltd.
I agree with you,
I have had Jasjar and Vodafone V1640. Now I've a Toshiba G900, I'm happy with it and I've started to cook roms for it, then G900 is really important for me.
But I've loved my UNI, perfect size for me, perfect display, perfect keyboard...
To have it today with its features plus a lot ram, storage and GPS, it'll be really a dream. Yes, today we have many devices like Xperia, HD, Touch pro... BUT, apart storage, ram and gps, no one offers all the things the UNI has!
And, if I had to add a thing on a new UNI, I would put the host usb function. I have it on G900 and it can be really usefull!
rsawoseyin said:
Since I got my first Universal (JasJar) some 2 years back, I have tried several other alternatives, including TyTN 2, HTC Touch Pro, and even Toshiba G910. I have always come back to the Universal. In fact, when I broke my JasJar, I replaced it with Vodafone V1640. I have come to conclude that the Uni is the closest to my ideal PDA/phone for a business user.
But I regret one or two things about the Universal, and I honestly wish we would have a Universal 2 to address these snags. My short wish list for Universal 2 are is follows:
1) Retain the present format - don't change the form factor; it is simply great as it is. Forget those who say it is too heavy or bulky - they don't know what they want. (If weight is your problem, then don't ask for a comfortable keyboard and a large screen as you have in the Uni.)
2) Give it 256MB RAM. This is by far the biggest issue with the current Uni with 64MB RAM. Often when I run something like TextMaker (SoftOffice), the device runs out of memory.
3) Make the stylus holder more secure. Either let it click into place or have a magnetic slot to secure it, like the HTC Touch Pro.
4) Make the SD card slot more secure - perhaps with a cover. As it is, it pops out rather easily.
5) Have a built-in GPS
Any further ideas for Universal 2?
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You pretty much stated the main shortfalls of the Uni.
The only thing I can think of that you left out was EDGE compatibility....
I only been a Imate JasJar owner for 6 months however I love the device. I have a Wizard (T-Mobile MDA)...had it for almost 2 years but for work, I exclusively use my Uni. I send/receive A lot of emails at work and the Uni is perfect for that. Plus I like having an unique PDA.....I live in the US so many Americans never seen a Universal so most of my coworkers, friends, or people that happen to see me use the Uni look at it like WHAT IS THAT? lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443421
I love the from factor "Micro laptop" but I have not seen anything for the future.....
davideuck said:
I agree with you,
I have had Jasjar and Vodafone V1640. Now I've a Toshiba G900, I'm happy with it and I've started to cook roms for it, then G900 is really important for me.
But I've loved my UNI, perfect size for me, perfect display, perfect keyboard...
To have it today with its features plus a lot ram, storage and GPS, it'll be really a dream. Yes, today we have many devices like Xperia, HD, Touch pro... BUT, apart storage, ram and gps, no one offers all the things the UNI has!
And, if I had to add a thing on a new UNI, I would put the host usb function. I have it on G900 and it can be really usefull!
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Glad to see you're a Uni user too.
Even tho we both have the G900 and love the 800x480, hackibility/cookibility wise the Uni is just so reliable.
It's very hard to make a perfect ROM for G900 due to the GF5500's lack of proper driver while the Uni is just a plain PXA27x device with drivers readily available.
IMO the perfect Uni2 should have the following:
-PXA32x 800Mhz+ (CorePlayer makes great use of the newer SIMD - WMMX2)
-800x480 WVGA 3.8"
-KB
-Slightly less than 20mm thick
-Same folding/twisting style
-aGPS (from MSM6281)
-Tri-band HSDPA 3.5G (from MSM6281)
-256MB+ RAM
-512MB ROM
-SDHC (or even two! )
Or that concept Touch HD Pro, but with PXA32x 800Mhz instead plus MSM6281 for aGPS+HSDPA. Qualcomm's QTv isn't powerful enough for WVGA H.264 playback.
Too bad HTC haven't made a replacement for the Uni. The closest contender is the Blackstone.
My Imate JasJar's camera doesn't work so I just bought a O2 exec in mint condition off ebay for an excellent price. The O2 should last for a another year...when the price of the Blackstone goes down a bit.... $700+ for a new Blackstone is a bit steep right now for me...lol
even tho i never seen it, on paper Touch Pro looks like ideal replacement.
Nevertheless, here's my wish list for Uni 2
GOOD CAMERA. (For ****'s sake HTC, if after all these years u still cant make a good one, LICENSE technology from sharp or sony!!!!)
fast CPU (900Mhz +)
and 2D drawing acceleration chip
GOBS of internal flash memory (storage), 8+ GB
dump SD card slot, in favour of USB 2.0 access to the internal 8.0GB+ flash
lots of RAM memory, ie 512MB+
ipod/touch pro UI
QUAD band
reduce weight/thickness
higher capacity battery
GPS that works with TOMTOM
scratch/shock resistant case
Actually, I think that HTC meant Touch Pro to be Universals successor. While it is better only in some respects, it is the only device with at least comparable keyboard. You may say that display is too small. But should not need to tap display too often when you have a good keaybord.
I need a new phone, I hope someone can help me decide. Currently using a Nokia E71x, but I need a WM device so I can run Communicator Mobile to IM with my colleagues. I will need a touch screen device (WM Pro), preferably candy bar with qwerty keyboard (non-slider) however I'm willing to try a slider again, if I can easily one-hand type on it (drive-n-type). Also willing to try one without qwerty like iPhone or Blackstone. It absolutely must be responsive, if I cant make a call immediately without waiting for my device to "do it's thing" it the most irratating thing in the world...!
Here are some phones I've recently owned:
E71x - A good phone. It is crippled compared to the E71, but it's stable and does the job, also has fast GPS lock, and overall minimal lag on this device.
E75 - Lot's of lag, build quality not as good as E71 (keys were flimsy) and it seemed buggy, maybe I had a bad one.
Treo Pro - Great form factor, very laggy OS (not enough RAM in this thing?), poor build quality (case crack), poor battery life.
E71 - Awesome phone, was only missing touch screen, otherwise perfect, work made me ditch it.
Touch Pro - Seemed a bit laggy to me, not very durable (plastic feeling).
Tilt - Seemed laggy, wasn't liking the keyboard.
Treo 750 - No comment.
Yeah, I'm pretty picky.. I'm liking the Blackstone T8285 but I think it's out of my price range. What about the Xperia X1, is that a pretty responsive device? I recall seeing a review (phonedog I think) and he was suprised it was quite laggy. Are there any phone with like 600mhz-1000mhz proc and 512MB that are afforable?
Thanks for all/any help!
Rezilient
You can buy a samsung i780, it isn't an htc but there are cooked roms for it even in this forum
ilMessia said:
You can buy a samsung i780, it isn't an htc but there are cooked roms for it even in this forum
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Hmm that a really old phone though, I bet it's as slow or slower than my Treo 750 was.
How is the Xperia? Anyone?
Edit: Oh I see why you suggested it, it has 600mhz proc. Hmmmm... Anyone have this device??
Go for the HTC TP2 now, then trade up to a used Leo later