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I've got a dead bootloader. My device doesn't upgrade thru SD and not with USB. can somebody please help me because i realy don't know what to do. My device is dead for almost 3 weeks now
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Even my backup on SD doesn't load. And this happend after i downgrade the radio version of the well know greek rom
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nobody?
Is there a solution to flash only the bootloader?

I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?
The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.

HBK said:
I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?
The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.
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You are totaly right.
I have update my frvice with the wrong greek rom and now i have the 15 sec reboot thing.
When I startup my device he ends up the bootloader and the only way to get the device booting to windows is remove the battery cover. But the her reboots again after the 15 seconds.
In the bootloader i tried to load my backup with the SD card but nothing happens. I also tried to load a ROM with MaUpgradeUt_NoID but nothing happens. I only get empty version thing.
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If i use the regular MaUpgradeUt and change the file change.bat for the xda3nbftool I get a error "error 201: get device data error".
I also tried to backup my device with the wrong ROM on it, to look at the header but nothing happens (romupdate.exe).
So my conclusion is that my bootloader is dead. Please correct me when i'm wrong but if this is the case how can i correct my bootloader.

When you unplug your Magician from the USB cable, what do you see?
If you see (with the backlight OFF) "Serial v1.00" or similar, thats a WORKING bootloader.
Make sure you have Active Sync DISABLED (right click the taskbar icon, click "Connection Settings..." the uncheck "Available by USB".
You should then plug in the USB cable and it should change to "USB v1.00" or similar.
Your PC may detect the connection as new hardware - that is a good sign that you have Active Sync disabled.
Let the New Hardware Wizard do it's thing, then re-run the upgrade setup and it should work.
If not, you've got BIG problems.

guess I'm in big trouble
The only thing i can do, is trying a different pc without ASync. On the current pc i'm working on, USB in activesync is disabled.
Are there any posibilties to reload (rebuilt, update) Bootloader.
Can somebody please help me.

The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.

KevinL said:
The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.
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:shock:
But isn't it strange that if you can't destroy it, it doesn't work anymore? And isn't there somebody who had the same problem?

Before you give up, try this:
Try using another USB cable.
I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.

I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.
Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...

Talents said:
Before you give up, try this:
Try using another USB cable.
I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.
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I'm using the cable that came with my device so that can't be wrong. But i could give it a try.
HBK said:
I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.
Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...
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There isn't a orignal rom fot the dutch T-mobile MDA. And if you use a original installer, it uses ActiveSync. And i can't boot windows because it restarts after 15 seconds so I can't use ActiveSync.

Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...

HBK said:
Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...
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I really tried everything but without any results. I realy don't know why i can't use the original ROM updater.

I have the similar problem, but mine one doesnt even start windows. It always go into the bootloader mode and stays there. I try upgrading it, but it gives me communication errors.

Do this
This is what you do.
Disconnect your JAm from USB
Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > remove the check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER
Now connect your JAM to your PC again via USB, this time active sync should not start since you have disabled USB
Now double click on the installer file of the original ROM and you should be good to go
After Reset , enable USB ,
Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > Put a check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER

MDA dead
I have tried.... it's not responsing as it should be.

OMNIA bricked or not?

Guys I need some help with bringing my omnia to live state. I tried flashing it with a ROM flashing my BOOT to 1.37 (even though I already had it pre-flashed to my phone before) and the PDA . The BOOT flashed fine, but the PDA got stuck on 37%. I disconnected my phone from the PC and restarted my omnia and when it switched on it started showing the image that is in the attach. I hope somebody will help me in finding a way out of this situation
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Removing the battery, restarting PC and Hard Reset do not help. The PC refuses to detect my device
ps. I've flashed my omnia for many times, but this time something went wrong. I guess something has happened to my PC

Hy!
I had a Omnia for a long time and i think i can help you....the chance is 50/50......
You need a PC with Windows XP first...do you have it?

Yes, I do have XP.
ps mb u can tell what time aproximately u r going to be on this forum next time, so that we "meet" here and try to fix my problem

Lets do this.....
Hy!
Okay lets do this.....this Torturial helps me before because i had the same problems.....
Thanks to Littlebuger......
At first you need to do this:
1.Device off
2.Batterie out
3.Wait one minute
4.Batterie in
5.dont switch your Phone on.....
6.Charge your Batterie (Over Night)......
If you had use an Modem-Driver bevor to flash your Phone you had to Uninstall it (Better uninstall all your Flash-tools)........
Next Download this files and unzipp it to your Computer:
http://rapidshare.com/files/178220179/Samsung_Modemtreiber.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/182053365/i900_1.6.4_XP_und_VISTA.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/178198057/pda.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/178199323/customer.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/178199730/phone.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/183897879/eboot.nb0
Ready?Old stuff Unimstalled,Charged and all Downloaded and Unzipped!
-Okay than install the new Modem-Driver from first Link to your Computer....
-Install Crand Prix
-Do not Stat your Phone!
-Connect your Phone to a USB-Port an your Mainboard,dont use the front-USB or an USB-Hub......(and maybe you should Cook a Coffee )
Okay now its getting Hot......
1.Start CrandPrix
2.Press the PDA-Button
3.Locate the "pda.bin" you Downloaded bevor
4.Remove the Chop (Deutsch:Hacken) from Phone Bootloader Update
5.Press the Detect-button
6.Start your Phone
7.Wait until Flashing (If its done the Window said "Job Done"
8.Close CrandPrix
9.Open CrandPrix
10.Switch off your Phone
11.Press the CSC-Button
12.Locate the "customer.csc" you Downloaded bevor
13.Remove the Chop (Deutsch:Hacken) from Phone Bootloader Update
14.Press the Detect-button
15.Start your Phone
16.Wait until Flashing (If its done the Window said "Job Done"
17.Close CrandPrix
18.Open GrandPrix
19.Switch off your Phone
20.Press the Phone-Button at CrandPrix
21.Locate the "Phone.bin" you Downloaded bevor
22.Remove the Chop (Deutsch:Hacken) from Phone Bootloader Update
23.Press the Detect-button
24.Start your Phone
25.Wait until Flashing (If its done the Window said "Job Done"
26.Close CrandPrix
If now all runs great and the Phone starts normaly than "Thats It".....if not than...here we go......
27.Open GrandPrix
28.Switch off your Phone
29.Press the Loader-Button
30.Locate the "eboot.nb0" you Downloaded bevor
31.If not...SET THE CHOP from Phone Bootloader Update !!!!
32.Press the Detect-button
33.Start your Phone
34.Wait until Flashing
35.If the Phone restarts and CrandPrix Said "Job Done" and the Phone is alive than THATS IT
If you can not do this torturial because you Phone can not be found than Uninstall the Modem-Driver and Download and install this Driver:​http://rapidshare.com/files/178832564/ppc_usb10.rar
....and try again from Point 1 of this torturial!​
So best wishes and Leave an Replay Please.......
Ps:Sorry for the English i´m from Germany.....
MFG

Don't worry about ur English. Its not my first language either I'm from Russia and I'm only 17.
I'll do that first thing tomorrow morning because now rapidshare does not have free slots, so I'll just have to wait

Okay!Great....i wish you good Luck......

It did not help/ I was told that the problem is most probably with my data cable so I'll have to look for one. I'll post as soon as I'll bring my omnia to life

Help me please

hello friends I have a question
my htc s710 flashed everything perfect
but because when I put it to charge my battery
show with color screen and I can not turn it off
my screen
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You have to flash new ROM. It should be Shipped ROM, if your phone is CID locked.
Don't worry ActiveSync isn't connested. Just power off device, press Camera button and plug-in usb cable until three collor screen. Then run ROM upgrade utillity.
It's important to use correct ROM version (the same language ver.), otherwise it will show you an error message.

tell me I should install some file?
or just do the procedures outlined in the post
Shipped ROM file, I can not download

You just have to run ROM Update Utility. That's all. Here you can find some Vox shipped ROMs. If you can't find your language version, I can upload it for you
What is writen on red box? 1.34.???

for the moment I have my htc near me
and can not remember informaction
Only I remember this
vox Hitachi
1.34
cpdl .1.31.00000
to the end
show me
USB
I'm using the rom
HTC S710 WM 6.5 "Official" v1.0 [XIP/SYS 21854]
is very beautifull
SURE you can upload more files for me roms kitchen v0x htc s710
windows 5.6 please

You used SSPL, I think... This number, I asked, could choose you right version.
Anyway, that link let you find somethink for you All available shipped ROMs I found...

yes now using SSPL
you know I'm new at this and some days ago
I decided to flash my htc install the first thing I
and was the rom that I show up windows 6.5
for me is pretty far
can you tell me what is the best cooked rom for now?
can you tell me any rom to use?

HTC S710 WM 6.5 "Official" v1.0 [XIP/SYS 21854] is very good ROM. I used it You can use Lite version too. I'm using HTC Typhoon now, Vox has an accident

he he
I have it installed this rom and is very good now
I see you know more than htc phones
and so wonder if you have any other cooked rom
to use
you are the expert on this
what is the version lite?

1. I'm not an expert, I only know a little more than you
2. I can't cook ROMs. There are people who really can do it...
3. Lite version has more storage and uses less RAM. It also has less programs inside the ROM. For more info look here

Very refreshing to see members helping each other....good jobs mates

Have you tried a Hard Reset already? IF the flashing (or some procedures to prepare it) did not succeed then you get back to the bootloader screen. Nothing lost yet, but you must get back to the OS level to continue.
Suspecting that the flash went ok (did you ever use the custom ROM on this device?) - then probably the imgfs is corrupted which prevents a clean boot into the OS. A hard-reset will fix this. It requires a little finger juggling though:
1.) remove battery to switch off device
2.) reinsert battery
3.) press and hold (!) L+R (both) softkeys
4.) switch on device (briefly press power button), but keep 3.) pressed
5.) wait until a white screen comes up and asks about the hard reset
6.) confirm with the green/call button

@ gutek85
yeah I know
I can see now than you know more hehe is great..
I have my htc 710 now
now go to flash the shiped rom
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the instalation is finished
but when finished the instalation
my htc 710 is againg to screen colors
i must be press key off and now press key on
is strange
@ tobbie:
I must say that I did the hard reset many times
but my phone still displays the same problem
when I turn it off and start to charge the battery
screen is placed in three colors
is very strange for me

So does the device work when the USB cable is not connected?
- what when the the charger is connected?
- what when the PC is connected?
- what when you take another USB cable?
It could be that the USB socket has a HW problem that triggers the fallback to the boot.

Did you use any program to CID or SIM unlock your Vox device? If not, tobbbie can be right...

@ gutek85
@ tobbie
I think this must be the problem
when I connect my htc to give the battery charge
lights and pulls the color screen
From that point I can not charge the battery
I have to turn to see that the battery is charging
Also my battery is damaged only lasts 15 minutes and discharged
you think this will be the problem?
and forget this
I have a htc s621 too
yesterday I flash a rom files
but now not show nothing signal

Try to replace the battery first, and see what changes
What ROM did you flash S621? Shipped or cooked?

@ gutek85
I using this rom now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523718
[Release 3.50 3-30-2010]
but my htc s621 not have nothign signal
and when go to insert the Sim card show
sim unregistrer is strange for me because is sim original
can help me ?

But it's HTC Excalibur ROM Try using any VOX ROM i.e. WM 6.5 "Official" v1.0 [XIP/SYS 21854]
Or any shipped...

@gutek85: He has two devices - a Vox and an Excalibur.
@chinitopex: You should discuss the problems in either forum separately.
Please tell in each thread then more about the background of the devices, especially if they have ever proven to operate normally (with shipped ROM). If you did not check the original behavior first and miss to describe the exact circumstances under which the problem appeared, a suitable advice is hard to give.
It it is impossible (for me at least) to read your mind and base good advice on missing information, speculation and guess work.

Bootloader and startup problem

Hello guys,
I've bought myself a secondhand I-mate Jam with a French Rom on it which I offcourse want to change.
After trying many many I just don't seem to work. I think I never got in the Bootloader mode (hold Camera button + power button and then press the reset button) but when I do this my screen just turns black and nothing happens.
If I try to start up everytime I get the startup wizard with pen calibration. Then he goes to windows and starts with the customization untill the screen goes black again and I can't do anything. If I want to powerup again I need to slide the battery cover back and forth and then I can powerup again. Only just to get the startup wizard again.
Please help me with this. I'm going crazy with trying and trying.
Cheers,
Veek

After more searching and trying I finally got the HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O3 from Cotulla installed. Only my radio isn't the good version.
So trying to go back to older rom with good radio and then install HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O3 again.
And I think with I-mate the bootloader is just a black screen. I still keep getting a black screen when I try to acces bootloader mode.
Cheers,
Veek

bootloader mode on htc magician marked with a black screen and there are writings SERIAL or USB (if connected with USBSync) at the top center of the screen, while the bottom of the screen are made V1.xx (bootloader version)...

I think i have your same problem! it keeps rebooting and everytime i try to install a new radio version it turns to boot mode (or almost that should be usb + 1.0 ) and nothin happens... i want to give him life back! =(

Geko90 said:
I think i have your same problem! it keeps rebooting and everytime i try to install a new radio version it turns to boot mode (or almost that should be usb + 1.0 ) and nothin happens... i want to give him life back! =(
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try reflash Radio Rom again ! for smooth and successful flashing process should remove the SIM card from your device
Installation:
- Extract files Radio Rom
- Enter bootloader mode on device (Press POWER + CAMERA + RESET, you will see Serial/USB at top and 1.0X at bottom)
- Connect via USB to PC
- Run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
- Follow instructions in Update program.
- At the end you should see at device screen: "100% Upgrade Radio Image Complete".
- After flashing press reset.

Hakim Rahman said:
try reflash Radio Rom again ! for smooth and successful flashing process should remove the SIM card from your device
Installation:
- Extract files Radio Rom
- Enter bootloader mode on device (Press POWER + CAMERA + RESET, you will see Serial/USB at top and 1.0X at bottom)
- Connect via USB to PC
- Run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
- Follow instructions in Update program.
- At the end you should see at device screen: "100% Upgrade Radio Image Complete".
- After flashing press reset.
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I'm trying to do this, but something's wrong... when I run maupgradeut_noID.exe the window says the ppc has to be connected via usb and synced with active sync... issues start after clicking on "Upgrade", because the phone goes in boot mode and nothing more happens... only that less than a minute later the pc loses connection of the phone =(

Geko90 said:
I'm trying to do this, but something's wrong... when I run maupgradeut_noID.exe the window says the ppc has to be connected via usb and synced with active sync... issues start after clicking on "Upgrade", because the phone goes in boot mode and nothing more happens... only that less than a minute later the pc loses connection of the phone =(
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if so, then try to disable connections Ms. ActiveSync on your PC
open Ms ActiveSync --> File --> Connection Settings --> do not check column Allow USB connections

Hakim Rahman said:
if so, then try to disable connections Ms. ActiveSync on your PC
open Ms ActiveSync --> File --> Connection Settings --> do not check column Allow USB connections
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I'm going to try it! Finger crossed for me xD
tryed... if I uncheck "usb connection", the pc doesn't recognize the ppc at all =(
that's what I get when trying to upgrade radio or rom
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If I sync it it shows me the pocketpc disk in "computer" and I can explore it... is it someway useful? also, when synced, I get this window (trying to update):
now... do you think there is still some possibility for my magician to wake up from this long sleep?
THANKS

Geko90 said:
I'm going to try it! Finger crossed for me xD
tryed... if I uncheck "usb connection", the pc doesn't recognize the ppc at all =(
that's what I get when trying to upgrade radio or rom
If I sync it it shows me the pocketpc disk in "computer" and I can explore it... is it someway useful? also, when synced, I get this window (trying to update):
now... do you think there is still some possibility for my magician to wake up from this long sleep?
THANKS
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even if you uncheck the " usb connection " and the pc does not recognize the device, however the upgrade process is still running

Hakim Rahman said:
even if you uncheck the " usb connection " and the pc does not recognize the device, however the upgrade process is still running
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Hi,
i'm experiencing the same problem. I have never been able to access the bootloader by pressing those 3 buttons. The device just freezes and i need to remove the battery in order to reset it. Others also have experienced the same problem. Why won't the bootloader show up?

Please help me with "Error! Func NO:12 (FUNC_LOAD_IOM3) Error NO:1"

Hi guys
sorry for my bad English ! but its emergency please help me
my phone is mate7 MT7-L09
after upgrading from 5.1.1 to 6.0 my phone get bricked ! and always display this error :
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i just have access to bootloader (UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER)
please help me , tnx.

If you don't have any important files in your phone, then download firmware 5.1.1 SD card dload folder and press 3 buttons to hard reset
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twlawrenceko said:
If you don't have any important files in your phone, then download firmware 5.1.1 SD card dload folder and press 3 buttons to hard reset
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i did this ! but my phone wont able to do that because phone dont get charge !
when i connect the charge cable it wont do any act ... i think my phone cant charge ...

pooya2ir said:
i did this ! but my phone wont able to do that because phone dont get charge !
when i connect the charge cable it wont do any act ... i think my phone cant charge ...
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I had exactly the same experience when attempting to update to 6.0, however my device (TL-10) could charge. You have to get it into fastboot mode. The screen looks very similar to that one (I can't remember the exact button combination, but I think it was Vol+ and power. Then you need to flash stock recovery (if you don't have it already) through ADB commands on your PC.
After that it's merely downloading the correct (full) package and installing it with the aforementioned three-button reset.
Hope this helps!

Scruffykid said:
I had exactly the same experience when attempting to update to 6.0, however my device (TL-10) could charge. You have to get it into fastboot mode. The screen looks very similar to that one (I can't remember the exact button combination, but I think it was Vol+ and power. Then you need to flash stock recovery (if you don't have it already) through ADB commands on your PC.
After that it's merely downloading the correct (full) package and installing it with the aforementioned three-button reset.
Hope this helps!
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thanks for replay , but my phone cant even charge (
what i must to do ?

pooya2ir said:
thanks for replay , but my phone cant even charge (
what i must to do ?
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It's a difficult question to ask. If your device still had a decent charge remaining before it crashed and burned you might still want to try to push the wipe / update, regardless of whether it's charging or not.
By the way, there won't be any charging indicators whilst in fastboot / rescue mode, the device will simply just stay on (and warm up a bit).

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