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USING STORAGE CARD AS MEMORY

Hey. I'm really new to this forum.. and please excuse me if i'm being ignorant at any time. Just bought a new XDAii Mini and realised that the memory is very less which makes the phone work very slow at time specially if multiple programs are running. So since the memory is only around 60mb or so... can't we utilize the space from our storage memory to work as memory ... basically.. can't the phone use storage memory to work faster... pls advice.
tried searching this forum for answers.. but i gave up.. any help would be appriciated. thanks.

if you've already installed programs i advise a soft reset.
-optionally install the big rom hack to get an extra 20mb of "storage" memory.
-then find a program called cabinstl to re-install all your programs to storage card.
-optionally use a program called memmaid to relocate various large dlls (support files) to storage or storage card.
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After vijay advise, read this thread and I gurantee U could get at least 35mb free memory space on startup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16785

using MM to move the dll files to storage card, how much memory will that get you and also if hard reset, the dll will be back to main memory, correct?. Thanks :lol:
vijay555 said:
if you've already installed programs i advise a soft reset.
-optionally install the big rom hack to get an extra 20mb of "storage" memory.
-then find a program called cabinstl to re-install all your programs to storage card.
-optionally use a program called memmaid to relocate various large dlls (support files) to storage or storage card.
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Confused... not enough space to install apps with Tofclock's AKU3.2 3.35a

Ok I'm totally confused so I hope someone can help me!....
Yesterday I finally decided to upgrade to WM2005. I tested a couple of different
ROMs and finally settled on Tofclock's AKU3.2 3.35a which was configured with :
64 MB RAM - 32 MB Page pool - 32 MB Ramdisk
My memory configuration appears as :
Storage Total: 14.54MB
Program Total: 61.23MB
Everything was working fine until I try to install a large app like Tomtom which
insists on installing some bits on the device and my 14.5MB of storage disappears and the installer hangs due to running out of space.
What I'm confused about is where this 14.54MB resides and why it isn't bigger.
I don't really understand the need for this Ramdisk stuff. Can I not just ditch the Ramdisk and install important apps to the device when they won't install to my SD card?
If I had no ramdisk wouldn't the applications I install to the device be persistent anyways?
So far I have installed Wizbar 2 and TomTom to the Ramdisk and I have already run out of space in the device storage memory.
Many thanks,
Laxity.

win2005 dont use ram for storage or programs or anything
it use flash
on 2003 it only used ram for storage and programs and application mem
and you had a slider to deside how much was for mem and how much for programs/data
so a basic 2005 rom give you all the 128MB as application mem
and only the 32MB in \Storage for everything else
ramdisk mean that the program make fake storage out of application mem
and let you install programs and data on it

I have installed the TofClock's ROM(exactly likethe one you installed too). I didnt have speed and storage problems because i installed ALL the applications to the "\RAMdisk".
your storage memory is for the \device directory like some \windows files and \My Documents.
install all your progs in the RAMdisk.
this is so far on of the coolest ROMs, i've been running on this for 4 days now.
BUT i have a big problem with this ROM: it shuts down at 24% level battery.
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about «ALL-IN-ONE Guide» by toomuchdogfur

Hi!
I've read this «ALL-IN-ONE Guide» by toomuchdogfur
(here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273911&highlight=upgrading+magician).
Is important the Active-sync version for the rom upgrade?
I use 4.2.0 build 4876: I need to use another version?
I need to turn off Antivirus and firewall?
The sim card can be plugged in?
The guide tells «sd card 128mb preferred»: someone try to do the upgrade using bigger card?
Thanks!
w_s

The ActiveSync version doesn't matter, namely because ActiveSync isn't used in the upgrade.
You shouldn't need to turn off your antivirus or firewall as the upgrade doesn't use any applications that need to access the internet or any protected system resources.
The SIM card can be left in or taken out - the upgrade process doesn't touch it.
The recommended SD size is 128MB as ROMs are typically 64MB, though I like to keep the extra storage space there as a safeguard. However the larger the card, the longer the process will take as your Magician will, during backup, attempt to fill the entire SD card regardless of how big the actual ROM is. Also this will give you a bloated file size if you decide to copy your ROM to your computer (eg. If you backed up your ROM on a 256MB card, then it will be 256MB in size if you copy it to your computer). Having said that, you should be fine with SD cards up to 1GB as long as you don't mind the extra time and space required.

i foiund it was strange. i can't upgrade the rom in vista which had installed the mobile center.and i works very well when i copy files pc to ppc.but it still can't upgrade the rom.so i change to xp.Then setup the ActiveSync.at last i can upgrade the rom.. hehe to find a friend to train my poor english.my e-mail:[email protected] thanks

I will found a 128mb sd card for the occasion!
Thank you very much for your guide and your help,
w_s

Cooked Version without Flashdisk or Storage

Hi!
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
Anybody can guide on this or can help on how to cook a ROM without a Flash Disk / Storage area.
Regards,
Haque

It's already been done.
Try Cotulla ROM.
And please read the first post by Cotulla VERY carefully.

kalya said:
Try Cotulla ROM.
And please read the first post by Cotulla VERY carefully.
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Hi, It's for a G3 device whereas I have O2 Xda Exec G4 device. I'll appreciate if anybody can guide me on to what can be deleted from an available kitchen like Tomal's or any other's to achieve a bare minimum state to run the mobile without the Flashdisk or Storage area.
Looking forward to be helped on this.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
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Just to qualify that you don't loose any of your program memory to storage or flash disk. i.e., if you get a ROM without storage/flashdisk, you won't have more program memory. The most you can expect on 64MB device is around 30MB free program. By getting vanilla version, this would only increase available space on flash disk (if you have one) - which is determined by the ROM builder. The xtra storage space is also only available as just that.
Best that I can see is luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla with 33.28MB free program memory.

JonMorgan said:
Just to qualify that you don't loose any of your program memory to storage or flash disk. i.e., if you get a ROM without storage/flashdisk, you won't have more program memory. The most you can expect on 64MB device is around 30MB free program. By getting vanilla version, this would only increase available space on flash disk (if you have one) - which is determined by the ROM builder. The xtra storage space is also only available as just that.
Best that I can see is luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla with 33.28MB free program memory.
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Thanx! But the problem with the Luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla is that upon closing the programs it actually does not close the programs and these are visible in Task Manager. I have to manually close the programs from Task Manager. Second, the flash disk size is 22MB approximately, whereas I wanted a version without Flash Disk or Storage and the free available memory should be available for Programs or a portion of that for the Storage. See if you or anybody can guide me on this.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Hi!
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
Anybody can guide on this or can help on how to cook a ROM without a Flash Disk / Storage area.
Regards,
Haque
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Stay tuned on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487384&page=10

Haque said:
upon closing the programs it actually does not close the programs and these are visible in Task Manager. I have to manually close the programs from Task Manager
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WM6 will minimise programs by default. Install WkTask. This is what is used in other ROMs to close programs and give the functionality you are looking for.
Haque said:
I wanted a version without Flash Disk or Storage and the free available memory should be available for Programs or a portion of that for the Storage
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As I said this is incorrect. The 'free memory' will not be available for Programs. If you don't have a Flash Disk or Storage, that memory is simply then not used and not available. Both the Flash Disk and Storage make use of memory that you cannot normally access.

orb3000 said:
Stay tuned on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487384&page=10
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Hi!, I flashed my O2 XDA EXEC with the WM5 shipped ROM and then upgraded to WM6 Shipped version. I got a Storage area with around 10-12MB space. Upon flashing it to Tomal's WM61, my O2 Xda Exec start showing Flash Disk along with the Storage area. Thus I had around 22MB storage area in the phone apart from the main storage and Program Memory. I don't know if some of this space can be freed to make more room for Memory than the mere storage space. I have gone through the post you pointed out and I had a feeling that the freed space can only be utilized for the storage area and not for the Program Memory.
I am planning to get me O2 Xda Exec's RAM upgraded and hope that will resolve the memory issue.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Hi!, ..... I have gone through the post you pointed out and I had a feeling that the freed space can only be utilized for the storage area and not for the Program Memory.
I am planning to get me O2 Xda Exec's RAM upgraded and hope that will resolve the memory issue.
Regards,
Haque
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you're right, it cannot be used as program memory but as mere storage, at least for now. upgrading your ram will do the trick... . regards

phezthie said:
you're right, it cannot be used as program memory but as mere storage, at least for now. upgrading your ram will do the trick... . regards
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Hi! I was lucky to get hold of a friend, who actually runs a mobile repair workshop, to upgrade the RAM of my O2 Xda Exec by harvesting the RAM from Blue Angel. Now my mobile is with 128MB RAM. The process was hardly a 30 minutes job - removing the two 64MB Memory chips from Blue Angel and replacing the 32MB Memory chips on O2 Xda Exec and then shorting the pins as stated in Uni Memory Upgrade article.
I just wanted to know how much of the storage can be freed from the cooked vanilla or regular version and how?
Regards,
Haque

Application installed in device instead of storage card

Hi there, i am not sure if anyone has experienced this problem, i tried to install these games ( Xtrat and Experiment 13 ) onto the storage card, but even though i clicked storage card, there were somehow being installed in the main memory of the device. I tried twice already and it is still the same. Any suggestion?

there's file path built-in in the cab...
if the files are hard coded.... I guess the only way is to rebuild the cab file....

that's what i was thinking. The built in memory for HD2 is quite limited. wish there is more....
thanks anyway