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Quick Memory Question

I am looking for a new XDA phone and I noticed that most have 64 Ram, but 128 Rom. On my xda I the rom had to be flashed and the ram was used for storage and running programs. Is this not the case anymore? Thanks.
-Ross

ROM in WM2005 is used for programs and storage, while the RAM is plainly program memory for the programs to run into.

Well then in that case, do you not lose your data when your battery dies. Or is there a seperate rom for OS?

That's right...no more data loss.. ...this is called persistent memory in wm2005...(a hard reset or even a normal flash won't delete ur data,u will have to choose an additional option in bootscreen to delete them..)
RAGO :lol:

Upgrading ... is it really Necessary.

Guyz, i've been using my imate JAM for about 3 weeks now. havent had any problems with it. Running preety smooth it is. but i occasionally had to soft reset it because it got hung up on something (maybe it was processing something or ..) Anyways, i've read loads about this Upgrading of ROMS. tell me if it is really necessary. And if it really helps to upgrade, WHICH ROM VERSION is the best and STABLE. Please Help me.

Well it's not necessary to update the rom, don't know your version but it can't be very old, isn't it?
Check your memory to see whether it is running low on ram, start -> settings -> system -> memory -> main (1st tab). The right side shows the ram occupied by files on your device, the left side shows the ram occupied by running programs. A magician only got 64MB of ram shared by running programs & installed programs. & installing apps. to the default location decreases that amout rapidly. Also take a look on the 3rd tab (running programs), pushing the x button doesn't close programs it minimizes them. You can free up ram by closing them manually or by installing app like vjokbut (very small), spb pocket plus, battry bar & others.
If your system is constantly running low on memory & you got a lot of apps. installed in the default location, consider doing a hard-reset & start all over again installing apps to either SD or internal Storage folder. To choose where cab-files should install you can use cabinstl very handy small tool. & don't forget to delete the Internet Explorer once in a while by hand in \windows\temporary internet files or have eg memmaid do it & You can even store the cache on SD if you like with this pogram.
If this all doesn't help you can try BIG Storage. With this you enlarge the internal Storage folder from 7 to 27MB. Howto's on the board & in the wiki.
Regards, M

Is it not the other way around, the right side (Program) shows the running programs and the left side (Storage) is for installed programs? I usually check my memory after starting a newly installed program just to see how much ram it consumes and it's the right side that decreases in value.

Yes you're correct I messed up. The right side (Program) shows the RAM consumed by running programs and the left side (Storage) is for installed programs & other features in the \Windows folder.
Excuse me pls,
M

no problem man. nobody is perfect.

oltp said:
Well it's not necessary to update the rom, don't know your version but it can't be very old, isn't it?
Check your memory to see whether it is running low on ram, start -> settings -> system -> memory -> main (1st tab). The right side shows the ram occupied by files on your device, the left side shows the ram occupied by running programs. A magician only got 64MB of ram shared by running programs & installed programs. & installing apps. to the default location decreases that amout rapidly. Also take a look on the 3rd tab (running programs), pushing the x button doesn't close programs it minimizes them. You can free up ram by closing them manually or by installing app like vjokbut (very small), spb pocket plus, battry bar & others.
If your system is constantly running low on memory & you got a lot of apps. installed in the default location, consider doing a hard-reset & start all over again installing apps to either SD or internal Storage folder. To choose where cab-files should install you can use cabinstl very handy small tool. & don't forget to delete the Internet Explorer once in a while by hand in \windows\temporary internet files or have eg memmaid do it & You can even store the cache on SD if you like with this pogram.
If this all doesn't help you can try BIG Storage. With this you enlarge the internal Storage folder from 7 to 27MB. Howto's on the board & in the wiki.
Regards, M
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Ok,
First: ov all my phone specs are:
imate JAM
ROM ver - 1.12 WWE
RADIO ver - 1.12.10
PROTOCOL ver - 1337.42
EXT Rom ver - 1.12.167 WWE
Secondly: DO i need an UPGRADE ??
And: hmmm, BIG STORAGE.. well it increases my Interernal Storage to 27 MB .. and it helps to do ....... what ???

Your rom is OK & upgrade really NOT necessary. BS is nice to install apps on, no need. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Out of main memory....help please

Although I have all photos, music, apps etc pointed to 'external' memory I am now getting low memory (<2MB) warnings. I have manaully purged (as much as I feel confident with) main memory and even uninstalled and re-installed programs to ensure that they reside in external memory. However when I search for files >64KB there are no files reported in main. This is driving me crazy and I need help before I microwave my HTC Diamond. Please, please point me in the right direction

The messages are probably not for storage memory but for either RAM or virtual memory. Close applications instead of minimizing them (the usual default). Get a task manager and see what's going on.

I hoped that that was the case however I have a RAM cleaner tool and even after running that and killing all processes I still have low memory. Is there any way I can determine what is taking up main memory?

you know one of my friends has the same problem with his samsung omni and i can't for the life of me find what is taking up so much room. he is pretty back to stock and we have tried everything. i tell him to return his phone as defective but he hasn't. is this a winmo problem that could be a bad code or is it just dumb luck that this has happened to an htc and samsung?

Calendar items, phone logs, messages reside in main memory too -- have you cleared those?

I do use the calendar and maybe clearing some of the old entries will help. However I do not use the handset as a voice phone, only data, and have no call logs or texts taking up space. I do use it for email so will check that too. That said it's currently using 83.36MB out of 84.56MB and doubt if the odd deletions will make a great difference. Is there a way of partitioning some of the storage card space over to extend the main storage area?

You can relocate \My Documents pretty easily with a registry change. You can also move your PIE cache (sk tools will help with this). These things might help. I thought the diamond had 4G of internal memory? Does it have a small main memory and then a large internal storage memory? I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with it.
You may want to install ClearTemp or something similar to clean out your temp and volatile folders. And you're sure it's not a ram issue? Do you have the problem immediately after a soft reset, or does it take a while?

I may have been leading you down the garden path. When I run the memory app' in Settings there are two totals: Storage and Program. In storage 82.7MB out of 84.5MB is in use and in program 78MB out of 111MB is in use. The Diamond complains of being almost out of memory shortly after it is turned on. Without a guide to follow I'm a little ill at ease attempting registry changes even though I have advanced config and PHM RegEdit installed. I will try ClearTemp if I can install it! Thanks for the help to date.

Does anyone know how to clear out the 'storage' area of the HTC as Opera is now refusing to run (not enough cache space...?) I'm facing the prospect of reloading the firmware (again) with no confidence I won't be back in this situation again in a couple of months

The out-of-memory warning message is activated after the ram memory is lower than a desired value .
The activation pattern and the threshold value are controlled by a set of registry entries under \HKCU\Software\Htc\TaskManager\
Can Play With It By Changing The Threshold Value In Registry.

Thanks for that, however at < 1-2MB of storage area remaining my problem is how do I recover storage capacity? I used ClearTemp and I now have around 7MB free which is much better though not ideal. Surely there must be a way of tweaking the storage / program balance through one of the toolkits?

I had the same prob few month back. The best way is to Hard reset > reinstall programs your REALLY NEED to internal storage except .net C Framework or Smart Protect etc... [install those types of programs to main memory]
The other way is
Buy SkTools if you dont have it
move things ie. programs to internal storage!

I select internal memory every time I install an app which further mystifies me. Now I can't get Opera to run.... it's just a year of break downs for me

Touch Diamond - Free Up Some Space?

Hi,
I flashed my HTC Touch Diamond yesterday with this ROM. Suffice to say Im pretty pleased with it, however my Diamond doesnt have a lot of storage space left (on the device, i.e. not the 4GB internal storage or RAM) and as a result I keep getting nasty messages telling me to free up some space etc...
I appreciate that its a beefy ROM with Sense 2.5 but I dont understand what is happening. When i flashed the phone I had about 8MB free. I put a 6MB ringtone into the ringtones folder before noticing how little space that left me with (2MB) and then deleted it. Now a couple of days later I notice that I have less than 1MB of space, yet I havent installed any apps to the device storage so what has been filling the space up? This morning I attempted to install Facebook and Google Maps to the storage card via Marketplace as these were already on the device storage but it doesnt seem to have freed up any space.
Does anyone know how I can free up some space please? None of the apps cooked into the ROM appear in the "Remove Programs" app.
Cheers.

Hi,
Things like e-mail import, text messages, temporary files just take a lot of space of the memory.
AthenaROM is not very good, I suggest you flash for example Gen Y D2X.
Hard-resetting is the only way to clean it up, most of the files are system files that will return after deletion.

Hi thanks for your reply.
I'll check out that other ROM; for the moment I've simply copied some non-Marketplace apps to the storage card and placed shortcuts into the /Windows/Start Menu folder on the device memory. Only thing is the icons dont show, anyone have any ideas please?
Thanks.

HTC HD2 Low Memory Issue

Hi.....I am new to HTC, I have HD2 which is an amazing device,the issue I am facing now is very annoying.
I am getting this message regarding memory space too low and i need to delete unused files....etc.
Can someone guide me how to direct the temporary files of IE to the memory card, i mean automatically the temp files are stored on the memory card and at the same time i want for the email and the pictures/videos to be stored on the memory card instantly.
I have an external memory of 8GB and it is frustrating to see this issue still.
Please help me out.

ROM and RAM could be different things...
Would you like to tell, which ROM version you are using? or What apps you running?

I have the same problem
My ROM version is 2.10.531.7 Artemis 8.0 WWE
I have NO idea what I am doing wrong ?
I am not using IE but Opera, please advice =(

shahidms said:
Hi.....I am new to HTC, I have HD2 which is an amazing device,the issue I am facing now is very annoying.
I am getting this message regarding memory space too low and i need to delete unused files....etc.
Can someone guide me how to direct the temporary files of IE to the memory card, i mean automatically the temp files are stored on the memory card and at the same time i want for the email and the pictures/videos to be stored on the memory card instantly.
I have an external memory of 8GB and it is frustrating to see this issue still.
Please help me out.
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Welcome to forums
It´s the 1st time I hear about low memory on Leo
I would recommend you to do a hard reset, perhaps some app is making problems.
Go to Leo section and to Wiki to learn all how to´s
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
rgblaq said:
I have the same problem
My ROM version is 2.10.531.7 Artemis 8.0 WWE
I have NO idea what I am doing wrong ?
I am not using IE but Opera, please advice =(
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Welcome aboard too,
I would recommend the same as above, just enter to your proper section here
Good luck,

Same problem here have rom 166 end my memory is gone after using you toube
find 33mb have to delete them manuelt

It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phones 'device memory', but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them to: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there, it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage .
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.

Every Youtube Video you view is stored on the phones memory. I was having the same issue on my HTC HD2 until I went into the File Explore, my device and then Windows. Click on the youtube folder and delete all of the videos found in this folder. I had over 500 videos stored here and my phone constantly displayed the low space warning and acted sluggish.....now it's fine...Give it a shot!

Memory diamond htc
Hello so far the only easy way to solve this, I found is a little program called clear temp.
Can´t post links but if you google you will find it . its free as well
See what you guys think.

Thanks Tony for that tip. I own an HD2 myself and have experienced that same issue. I do know that you have to do the same with messages and emails as well.once you delete you still have to go tio the deleted folder and permanently delete the messages from your device.txt messages alters and take up lots of space.
Have an hd 7 now and hope not too have the same problems as with the hd 2.
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