When you lose your phone, is it possible for networks to track down and disable the phone?
Why, whose phone have you stolen?
But anyway yeah it is possible to track it down but i think they generally disable the phone by you giving them the IMEI number of it.
can i get yours? hehe just kidding..
nah i know someone who lost his phone. Thing is, do they have IMEI number on their database? cause he only knows his phone number, not the IMEI
the IMEI would be somewhere on the box of the phone
or maybe even the cellphone operator knows it
once reported stolen the cellphone operators ban the IMEI
rendering the phone useless
Is anyone aware of something like this, or what would be involved?
Before I am assaulted for asking this question, the reason it is of interest of me is not because I have a stolen phone, but T-Mobile US is now blocking certain data plans by identifying handsets by IMEI number.
I recently bought a unlocked HTC Magic and inserted my SIM card which worked just fine on a T-Mobile Shadow (HTC Juno). The data plan worked for a few hours, and then was blocked because the T-Mobile network recognizes these phones IMEI as a G1. The data plan I actually had (per the recommendation of a T-Mobile rep), was a Blackberry plan with an International E-Mail Roaming package (as I travel frequently internationally). After many hours on the phone with them trying to find a solution, T-Mobile determined there was not a solution and I could not use the HTC Magic with my plans.
Given these changes on the T-Mobile US network are relatively new, and the imminent growth of Android handsets, I believe there could be a market for such an application.
Lastly, according to my research, in the United States, there are no laws that exist which bar changing of an IMEI number. So, to all of you vigilantes out there, please leave law enforcement up to the police.
Anyone have insight into this?
from what i understand, every time the phone is booted up, it connects to the carrier to let it know what your IMEI is, then associates your account(your number, sms, email, etc) to that imei. if you change it, you could run the risk of picking someone else's imei and start receiving some of their things(from what i understand, although i could be a bit off.) but from the bit of info i have read online about it, its similar to MAC address Spoofing on a pc, in respects to what need to be done and how and what it works for.
Just a quick one guys. I am trying to resolve some issues for my wife right now with her new Motorola CLIQ 2.
Her phone was recently stolen from a party, and she is pretty sure that she just saw one of her ex-friends using a phone with the same case and exact same dents and whatnot (she's clumsy!).
I have the box with the IMEI number, we have locked her number so that it can't be used. TMOUS is giving us hell and saying they can't do anything to lock by IMEI or anything. She is trying to get in contact with the guy she thinks has her phone but surprisingly there is no word from him.
I was wondering, don't all GSM phones have to authenticate IMEI numbers whenever they jump on/off a tower? By that logic I feel that TMOUS could track this phone to a position between the towers. Or they could at least tell me if that IMEI is in use! I'm not asking for them to tell me WHO is using it, I understand privacy, but I am just asking if it is in use at the moment.
Thanks for any help.
Matt
For TMO to even check for that the IMEI would have to be reported as stolen and there'd have to be a legal document giving authorization to do a full trace. My dad's phone got taken and I went through the exact same BS, luckilly I could trace it the same night by using my phone to find the BT signal from his and i just yelled "this would be a lot smoother if they'd just turn it in,then the cops wouldn't have to get involved because I know where the phone is",the next morning it was "mysteriously" in the mailbox but yeah, if you have the IMEI and Serial numbers you should report it to the cops and HOUND them to get it tracked, if you have that info there's no reason they shouldn't be able to find it, but most police forces are too lazy to do so and just wait for the person to stop asking. If/when you get the phone back you'll need to call the cops and tell them you have it back in your possession so they can remove the numbers from the blacklist and the phone will be operable LEGALLY again.
different nations
in italy is more different
if forget / stoled your phone
you call your operator and tell him your IMEI and operator block the phone
but the real is if the "thief" change IMEI is possible use phone with onother SIM
the police, is not tracking the phone because is a hight cost
hi, I got a bad esn tp2 from ebay. has anybody success in scan for the ESN or MEID in the sprint tp2 with CDMA workshop? I used memory scan and it only return 1 section of readable memory, and i scan that section but nothing found. please help. thankyou
click tools at the very top left and then click security calculator. Enter one of the numbers and it should give you at least one of the other numbers. When I entered the meid Hex it gave me all of them. Look on the barcode on the phone under the battery. You can also report it to ebay and file a complaint with paypal, but good luck with that, lots of horror stories on the net.
no, thats not what i need, i need scan for the esn/meid in the memory so i can change it.
satuday said:
no, thats not what i need, i need scan for the esn/meid in the memory so i can change it.
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ESN changing is not something you do lightly. First of all you have to at the very least -And I am not even sure this will work to begin with- Change to an ESN from a completely brand new never activated phone to be able to use it on another network. The reason you have to do this is because the ESN's are uploaded into a database and a lot of times there is no other way to get one added to certain networks like sprint (but you can with some networks will add an esn and "flash" to their service like cricket or metropcs) so the reason you have to use a COMPLETELY BRAND NEW or never activated phone is because all modems/phones transmit signals called RF or radio frequencies that have a kind of electronic fingerprint that the network can detect and if they detect that you are using an "electronic fingerprint" from another phone then they will get your ass! What they will do to you I have no idea but I certainly would not want to find out and I would be sure to cover your ass really well dude! Also, is this the paid version you are using? Because it won't work with the free version and all many/most of those supposed "free versions" or "cracked versions" are actually backdoor trojans that turn your computer into a zombie... so yea. wouldn't try it if I were you unless you wanna do a hell of a lot more reading up on it first so you can cover all your bases.
But otherwise it should not be considered illegal in certain regards but is illegal in other regards. Such as: you cannot use two phones on the same ESN. What you can do is what I said however and that is perfectly legal as long as you only use one of the phones: buy a phone for the ESN number then use the *Never activated* esn on the phone to be transferred to the phone you want to use. Like I said though, this is not by any means an easy thing to do.
Anyone know how to find cell phone stolen, please!
HTC HD7
IMEI:
Nº DE SERIE: HT0BGRG01671
With Live is not possible because the thief has changed the sim card.
Thanks
Did not know it used the sim card to find the phone?
you could try this?
http://www.traceamobile.co.uk/how.php
note this is about the same as windows live in other words it will get you down to the street...
o0MattE0o said:
Did not know it used the sim card to find the phone?
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Doesn't it use text messages to pinpoint the phone's location if using live? I read that somewhere...
(sorry if this doesn't help op... hope you find it!)
Call your provider and police. Don't spend money for "find-it-yourself" services... (btw, if you be able to locate your phone with couple of blocks accuracy what you will do? )
Maniakmp said:
Anyone know how to find cell phone stolen, please!
HTC HD7
IMEI:
Nº DE SERIE: HT0BGRG01671
With Live is not possible because the thief has changed the sim card.
Thanks
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why don't you just call your provider and report is stolen? You shouldn't post your IMEI on public forums
No, it uses the internet connection of the device. It is unrelated to the SIM card.
If you check on the site regularly you may see an update to the location which would have happened if the phone had internet access (through WiFi or something).
Have you tried remotely locking your phone?
I do believe Windows Live can find your phone even the thief has changed the simcard.
I hope you have already registered it with Windows Live Service and have something like this:
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Strike_Eagle said:
I do believe Windows Live can find your phone even the thief has changed the simcard.
I hope you have already registered it with Windows Live Service and have something like this:
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Any of these services work by sending an SMS to the device. This will of course only work if you know the correct number. Which won't be the case if the thiev replaced the SIM card.
The only legitimate answer is to go to the authorities, but there's a 99% chance they will tell you there is nothing they can do. Do you know how many cell phones are lost/stolen every day?
Go to your operator and lock that IMEI... if you can't use it, neither will they.
Avandor said:
Go to your operator and lock that IMEI... if you can't use it, neither will they.
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Unfortunately blocking the IMEI is not implemented in all country's most stolen phones probably end up in a non blocked country.
Its a shame the phone could not be wiped using the IMEI number as well.
I knew straight away I was not getting my phone back as the scumbag that took mine switched it off when I called, The phone number was never live again.
agp64 said:
Unfortunately blocking the IMEI is not implemented in all country's most stolen phones probably end up in a non blocked country.
Its a shame the phone could not be wiped using the IMEI number as well.
I knew straight away I was not getting my phone back as the scumbag that took mine switched it off when I called, The phone number was never live again.
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so what cool phone r u getting next ?
In Europe you may be able to get the IMEI locked. If they sell it on ebay to someone in the USA or elsewhere, they'd just be able to put a SIM Card in the phone and use it.
Part of what sucks about GSM is that if you get a phone stolen, it isn't your phone anymore - it seriously isn't, becasue everythign is tied to the SIM card.
Becasue of the way Live Services work on WP7, it basically forces whoever stole the phone to factory reset it.
And no one who steals a phone will keep the old SIM in it unless they're retarded.
The only place the phone should ever be, that is not your hand, is in your pocket. It's pretty simple.
Sorry for your loss, but no one here can help you adn the authorities won't waste time on a smartphone. The best you can hope for is to get the IMEI blocked in Europe, but that won't matter if the phone is sold to someone this side of the pond.
And anyways, WP7 devices make nice Zune HDs so it's a big win for the theif whether or not it can be used as a phone, IMO...
Also, posting the IMEI on a public forum is beyond dumb... A mod or something shoult remove that from the OP and quotes, or just delete the thread since it serves no purpose...
Hope you had insurance on your phone, though... Lots of people think it's a waste of money until they lose a phone, drop it, or have it stolen...
N8ter said:
In Europe you may be able to get the IMEI locked. If they sell it on ebay to someone in the USA or elsewhere, they'd just be able to put a SIM Card in the phone and use it.
Part of what sucks about GSM is that if you get a phone stolen, it isn't your phone anymore - it seriously isn't, becasue everythign is tied to the SIM card.
Becasue of the way Live Services work on WP7, it basically forces whoever stole the phone to factory reset it.
And no one who steals a phone will keep the old SIM in it unless they're retarded.
The only place the phone should ever be, that is not your hand, is in your pocket. It's pretty simple.
Sorry for your loss, but no one here can help you adn the authorities won't waste time on a smartphone. The best you can hope for is to get the IMEI blocked in Europe, but that won't matter if the phone is sold to someone this side of the pond.
And anyways, WP7 devices make nice Zune HDs so it's a big win for the theif whether or not it can be used as a phone, IMO...
Also, posting the IMEI on a public forum is beyond dumb... A mod or something shoult remove that from the OP and quotes, or just delete the thread since it serves no purpose...
Hope you had insurance on your phone, though... Lots of people think it's a waste of money until they lose a phone, drop it, or have it stolen...
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you are talking nonsense bro
The blacklist is published in the europe official
Whosoever person that can look
you can not find the phone if SIM changed, I know
I put in all forums I know because the phone is not my more
is stolen man!
forums offered for sale, no?
in this way I can warn people, you or another buyer checks the IMEI
is clear, if the phone is my I will not publish IMEI
stolen is stolen man
I posted in many forums but only in this have removed IMEI
publish IMEI official is a protection for buyers man
the phone is locked in my country, now I'm trying to publish in the European blacklist
and this list is official helping people to not buy a stolen cell phone
Thanks to everyone for the tips
if the admin see this post not considered it gets deleted please
Maniakmp said:
you are talking nonsense bro
The blacklist is published in the europe official
Whosoever person that can look
you can not find the phone if SIM changed, I know
I put in all forums I know because the phone is not my more
is stolen man!
forums offered for sale, no?
in this way I can warn people, you or another buyer checks the IMEI
is clear, if the phone is my I will not publish IMEI
stolen is stolen man
I posted in many forums but only in this have removed IMEI
publish IMEI official is a protection for buyers man
the phone is locked in my country, now I'm trying to publish in the European blacklist
and this list is official helping people to not buy a stolen cell phone
Thanks to everyone for the tips
if the admin see this post not considered it gets deleted please
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If you don't know why that's a bad idea, then I dunno what to say.
And you say I'm talking nonsense because you disagree with one statement in my rather comprehensive post.
In the end, it doesn't matter. The OP isn't getting the phone back, and no one who buys this phone on eBay or any other site will be dumb enough to throw their money down the drain and send it back to him.
I sure wouldn't.
Posting the ESN of a CDMA phone makes sense (if you report it stolen, the phone is blocked and cannot be used, anyways). Posting the IMEI can be dangerous. People can use it to commit insurance fraud, among other things... HTC checks your warranty (date of manufacture, etc.) by asking for your IMEI number (I had to get an HD2 repaired, so I know). They don't pair it up with a name (i.e. if you registered on their site) because phones can be sold easily and often multiple times...
@N8ter
Maybe you're right...
But I'm the one who has lost this phone
And I'm pretty pissed...
I need time to forget, especially the pictures of my daughter don´t synchronized with PC
THX
Hey mate, keep trying with windowsphone.live.
It almost definitely doesn't work with JUST text messages. I was messing around with mapping/locking the other day and got the error message "We are having a problem sending Push Notifications to your windows phone, we will attempt to map the phone by sending a text message instead".
So it uses Push Notifications over data first, Text messages if that doesn't work.
The reason why it probably isn't working is because the phone is off or not connected to any 3G/Wifi. I would recommend you keep trying just incase the phone is sold and someone else starts using the phone and/or the thief turns it on himself with his own sim card.
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Hey mate, keep trying with windowsphone.live.
It almost definitely doesn't work with JUST text messages. I was messing around with mapping/locking the other day and got the error message "We are having a problem sending Push Notifications to your windows phone, we will attempt to map the phone by sending a text message instead".
So it uses Push Notifications over data first, Text messages if that doesn't work.
The reason why it probably isn't working is because the phone is off or not connected to any 3G/Wifi. I would recommend you keep trying just incase the phone is sold and someone else starts using the phone and/or the thief turns it on himself with his own sim card.
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thanks for the advice
but this does not work if the thief changes the SIM card
there is no possibility of finding by IMEI or serial number
all messages coming to a duplicate of this card that I have in my new phone
a possibility to find any phone by a serial number would be wonderful
but this should never happen
things of privacy rights in the world
I know perfectly well that the mobile network providers if they need
can find my phone by IMEI, but no one will do
if the phone is not a evidence of a crime nobody will do anything
as one user said above
Daily thousands of phones is stolen in the world
for now I'll stick with my iPhone and Android Cell
I think the admin can close this post because they do not bring anything
Thanks for All and monitor your phone because thieves never sleep…
Maniakmp said:
thanks for the advice
but this does not work if the thief changes the SIM card
there is no possibility of finding by IMEI or serial number
all messages coming to a duplicate of this card that I have in my new phone
a possibility to find any phone by a serial number would be wonderful
but this should never happen
things of privacy rights in the world
I know perfectly well that the mobile network providers if they need
can find my phone by IMEI, but no one will do
if the phone is not a evidence of a crime nobody will do anything
as one user said above
Daily thousands of phones is stolen in the world
for now I'll stick with my iPhone and Android Cell
I think the admin can close this post because they do not bring anything
Thanks for All and monitor your phone because thieves never sleep…
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i have tried with and without SIM card to find my phone and for me work pretty good just lock it and push in code without Sim card work perfect it wil send one email to your live account..
People need to stop blurting out BS like "you can't do anything once the SIM's been replaced". Whoever came up with this crap is lucky that the people he told this to are ridiculously gullible.
It's the most retarded statement I've heard in a long time. What use would phone mapping services like the Live services be if they didn't work once you did something as simple as replace the SIM? There's various other ID's that are unique to each phone (IMEI for eg) that these types of services use instead of a bloody phone number!