hi, I got a bad esn tp2 from ebay. has anybody success in scan for the ESN or MEID in the sprint tp2 with CDMA workshop? I used memory scan and it only return 1 section of readable memory, and i scan that section but nothing found. please help. thankyou
click tools at the very top left and then click security calculator. Enter one of the numbers and it should give you at least one of the other numbers. When I entered the meid Hex it gave me all of them. Look on the barcode on the phone under the battery. You can also report it to ebay and file a complaint with paypal, but good luck with that, lots of horror stories on the net.
no, thats not what i need, i need scan for the esn/meid in the memory so i can change it.
satuday said:
no, thats not what i need, i need scan for the esn/meid in the memory so i can change it.
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ESN changing is not something you do lightly. First of all you have to at the very least -And I am not even sure this will work to begin with- Change to an ESN from a completely brand new never activated phone to be able to use it on another network. The reason you have to do this is because the ESN's are uploaded into a database and a lot of times there is no other way to get one added to certain networks like sprint (but you can with some networks will add an esn and "flash" to their service like cricket or metropcs) so the reason you have to use a COMPLETELY BRAND NEW or never activated phone is because all modems/phones transmit signals called RF or radio frequencies that have a kind of electronic fingerprint that the network can detect and if they detect that you are using an "electronic fingerprint" from another phone then they will get your ass! What they will do to you I have no idea but I certainly would not want to find out and I would be sure to cover your ass really well dude! Also, is this the paid version you are using? Because it won't work with the free version and all many/most of those supposed "free versions" or "cracked versions" are actually backdoor trojans that turn your computer into a zombie... so yea. wouldn't try it if I were you unless you wanna do a hell of a lot more reading up on it first so you can cover all your bases.
But otherwise it should not be considered illegal in certain regards but is illegal in other regards. Such as: you cannot use two phones on the same ESN. What you can do is what I said however and that is perfectly legal as long as you only use one of the phones: buy a phone for the ESN number then use the *Never activated* esn on the phone to be transferred to the phone you want to use. Like I said though, this is not by any means an easy thing to do.
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Hi all,
I have a SPV3000 from my work and I lost it for a while so I mentionned it to my manager who is going to state it to Orange to get it blacklisted.
The thing is, after a couple of weeks, I have just found my phone again!
I am not feeling I should mention it again to my boss as it sounds really ridiculous and he was kind enough not to argue on the loss. But well, now I have a phone fully working which IMEI code will soon be blacklisted by the 3 main operators in France running a common database on the subject (in case of phones stolen). I may send my phone to a friend abroad who will certainly be able to use it there but is there any tricky solution to be able to use it in France?
What is this IMEI code exactly and how does it work?
BE SURE I AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF BLACK LISTS TO AVOID SO COMMON AGGRESSIONS JUST FOR PHONES...
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Hi marcel06!
IMEI is kind of like a serial number which your cell company sees.
If you haven't noticed, there is a wiki link under the word for details.
There are no tricks when it comes to IMEI. There are ways of changing it, but that is illegal in most countries.
Because IMEI identifies your phone, thieves could change their phone IMEI to match yours so you would pay for calls made from other phone.
If you really want to use the phone again, you should report that it was found so they won't blacklist you.
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Because IMEI identifies your phone, thieves could change their phone IMEI to match yours so you would pay for calls made from other phone.
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Oh.. no. I'm not sure about those pre-SIM period phone. But I'm definately sure that now, for phones that are using SIM cards, you are not able to charge to others account using IMEI. The controlling mech is the SIM card, the billing information is in the card, not the phone. But the operator will have the power (as I've heard) to disable/track phone by IMEI.
is "tdwaop" ,
use qmat or cdmaworkshop send
"41 74 64 77 61 6F 70"
after ,you can read or change digit SPC
test 6700, 6800, 6900, 6850, 6950, tp2 cdma IS OK.
huh? I am confused. Thanks
Can any of the delevopers clue us in to what this might mean?
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Can any of the delevopers clue us in to what this might mean?
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LOL, I'm with you man.
Thats when you take hose a 6205 thru outlet b9100 coupled with flange d14 thru the interloop exterior housing which creates the flux capacator which makes time travel possible.
i think..
I may be wrong on that flange...
Yeah it's an o-ring not a flange.
I can't test out his info, but basically this would allow you to grab your SPC (service programming code) aka MSL. With that and with some additional files you can change the programming info on your phone, like ESN, NAM, MEID, etc.
P.S. Don't make this into an ESN cloaning thread. That would be very naughty (and not allowed).
Ok so it is nothing that I would need. That's all the OP needed to state. LOL.
Well to be fair this is the equivalent of GSM Unlocking your phone - with your SPC on a CDMA device you can unlock it and switch to a different carrier and change your phone number.
Usually the SPC does not allow you to program in the ESN - at least from what I remember when I worked with programming CDMA modems. The ESN can only be set once, after that you need to do a full internal memory wipe and reload the firmware in the modem before you can set it again - and with the Wavecom modules we had you needed a breakout board for that (impossible in-situ).
Telek said:
Well to be fair this is the equivalent of GSM Unlocking your phone - with your SPC on a CDMA device you can unlock it and switch to a different carrier and change your phone number.
Usually the SPC does not allow you to change the ESN - at least from what I remember when I worked with programming CDMA modems. The ESN can only be set once, after that you need to do a full internal memory wipe and reload the firmware in the modem before you can set it again - and with the Wavecom and Qualcomm modules we had you needed a breakout board for that (impossible in-situ).
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you can change the esn as many times as you want, its not hard. But ive heard its illegal.
ESN
Wow. If you can just change your ESN whenever you want on this phone it will attract some serious hate real quick. I hear that what the terrorizers do.
So can this be used to use a Verizon phone on Sprint and vice versa ?
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So can this be used to use a Verizon phone on Sprint and vice versa ?
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If you don't change the esn or meid in the tp2 case, you won't be able to use the phone from sprint on verizon and vice versa. The reason is that those companies does not allow foreign esns on their database. But there is another companies thar does allow foreign esns with a small fees, like MetroPCS and Cricket.
Anyway, changin esns is illegal. Most of the people change their phones to companies like metro and cricket, and use the spc to been able to change the prl and phone and min number in order to program the phone to the new company
Have you noticed thed OP hasn't even responded back to his own thread.... and he/she only has 1 post total........ whadaya think... quick spam? shrugs..
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The ESN is like the Social Security Number of the phone world. It's illegal to change because that specific number identifies that phone, and where it has been. It's so unique that no other phone in the world has the same number. Changing the number is like changing your identity. (phones ID in that case).
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It's illegal to change because that specific number identifies that phone, and where it has been. It's so unique that no other phone in the world has the same number. Changing the number is like changing your identity. (phones ID in that case).
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Really? Illegal? There's a law that you'd break? What law? Is it a federal law?I'm not bashing, I'm just really curious. Is it illegal to change the ESN or does it depend on what you do with it once you've changed it, like steal someone else's cell phone service that they are paying for. I can see that being illegal.
can you buy a CDMA phone w/ no esn,so you can use an HTC Incredible on Sprint,for example?
CDMAPCS said:
is "tdwaop" ,
use qmat or cdmaworkshop send
"41 74 64 77 61 6F 70"
after ,you can read or change digit SPC
test 6700, 6800, 6900, 6850, 6950, tp2 cdma IS OK.
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click terminal tab and enter code click send and then click security tab and read. MSL recieved
PS nice work
I can confirm this "super code" does work! I was trying to activate an EVO. The sprint provided MSL didn't work, and there was with no ril.MSL showing when i would do the getprop method. I couldn't read the stupid SPC no matter what I tried.
I sent this code via cdmaworkshop and it worked like a champ, the EVO 4G finally showed me the SPC.
Thanks!
I lost my damn G2X the other day while drunk and had just installed a new ROM and no tracking app yet. The guy at Tmobile today told that anyone could put their own SIM card in my phone if found and use it without a problem.
Can TMobile really not associate the IMEI off that phone (that I reported lost) with one that cannot be activated? I don't want to believe that and don't believe the fat slob at the store anyways due to how he bad he messed up my account today and failed to share important information with me
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I lost my damn G2X the other day while drunk and had just installed a new ROM and no tracking app yet. The guy at Tmobile today told that anyone could put their own SIM card in my phone if found and use it without a problem.
Can TMobile really not associate the IMEI off that phone (that I reported lost) with one that cannot be activated? I don't want to believe that and don't believe the fat slob at the store anyways due to how he bad he messed up my account today and failed to share important information with me
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Any T-Mobile sim card can work with any T-Mobile or Unlocked phone without the need of setting up a IMEI to that sim card. So yes they can just throw in there card and it will work. If you report your phone stolen then T-Mobile might be able to block the use of said IMEI from it's network. That is if you know what that number is and you ask about it over the phone. The first thing you should of done in this situation is called in your phone as stolen. Still it's possible they wont do that. I know I've seen comment for cell phone dealers on ebay who stated that the company sold them a stolen phone that is now deactivated. So best of luck. Also make sure you go to an actual corporate store. Not all T-Mobile stores are owned by T-Mobile. It's very hard to tell the difference between them.
Thanks I have the box it came in I think that has IMEI
its a gsm phone so they can't do anything, if it was a cdma then it won't work!
well crap. someones a lucky ************
If you are fast enough you log onto the Android Market on the internet and install Plan B. If they have not yanked out your sim yet plan b will install, automatically run, send an sms to you with the phone's location and allow you to track it online. You can also lock it and have it put a message on the phone to return it to the owner.
Jboxer is right, most probably the thief doesn't know as much to know that he can throw another sim card in there.
Best of luck though
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And it is not true that T-Mobile cannot block the IMEI. If you call T-Mobile and report it lost they will definitely block the IMEI from use on their network. Whoever found it or stole it won't be able to use it on T-Mobile but they would still be able to sim unlock it and use it on AT&T or another network.
Thanks everyone. I think it's all too late. I tried installing Wheres my Droid from net the next morning but it either needs to be set up on phone first (can't remember) or the phone had already died. Wish I knew about "Plan B." This succcccks. I really hope something goes wrong with it for the new owner, And sure hope they like a basic ass setup of MIUI!!!
Dear forum,
let me just go straight to the point:
My Galaxy Nexus was stolen at work last friday. I tried to use some tracking software like Plan B but without succes, the SIM card had been changed allready.
Now here comes the part that gave me some hope.
When I went to My (Gmail) Account at the Android Market today (using my desktop), I noticed 2 things:
- First thing is that the record from the column "Carrier" has been changed from "Vodafone" to "KPN', so I think I can assume here that someone put another SIM card in it.
- Also at the column "Last Used" I see "February 13, 2012", which is yesterday (monday).
I was really wondering if there is a workaround or something to get more information (like the phone number of that SIM card?) than just the carrier of that SIM card and when it was last used?
Thanks in advance~
Anthony Elbers
During the night push a remote lock app to the device, if they haven't changed the google user login by then. Then just lock the device. If the app shows it set a screen message offering reward for return. Better still make it scream while at work tomorrow.
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During the night push a remote lock app to the device, if they haven't changed the google user login by then. Then just lock the device. If the app shows it set a screen message offering reward for return. Better still make it scream while at work tomorrow.
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The thing is, I only work at fridays and saturdays. I also think that the person is smart enought to not bring the phone to work when I'm around.
I thought maybe if I could get some more information with a workaround, I could catch the thief myself instead of waiting for him/ her to give it back (which probably isn't going to happen).
I hope you informed your managers.
You could have a look through the available apps in the market see if there is anything you can use to lock the phone remotely and or push some really nasty messages to it. If you ain't using why should they get the use of it think there may be some way of remotely wiping the phone aswell. Then at least it would be of no use to the thief anyway. Sorry I can't be of more help. I allways make sure I activate any built in phone finder and instal lookout, so never really had to deal with the issue
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Prey worked for me before.
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Prey worked for me before.
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Note that the phone is stolen and SIM card has been changed allready. As far as I know you need to configure Prey on the phone itself, so not really remote like Plan B.
I'm still curious if there is a workaround to get more information about the SIM card than just the "Carrier" and "Last Used"?
Like.. are those the only two things that get stored or is there more information about the SIM card that I could get without having the phone itself?
If you have the IMEI you can contact your network and ask they put a block on the phone, a lot of the time it also blocks it off other networks as well.
i think the info about the sim like its number is by far more important than map location because if you got the thief's number then you can report that number to the police and mobile network .
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If you have the IMEI you can contact your network and ask they put a block on the phone, a lot of the time it also blocks it off other networks as well.
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i think the info about the sim like its number is by far more important than map location because if you got the thief's number then you can report that number to the police and mobile network .
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This is pretty much what I'm aiming for since I allready have contacted the police and gave them the IMEI of the phone. They said like something like "We'll see what we can do", but I thought there would be some workaround (yeah I'm using this word alot) to get more information of that SIM card.
I think I can assume that the column "Carrier" which is shown on the screen, is read of the SIM card?
Question is, if anything else is shown somewhere in my Gmail (since it's linked to my Galaxy Nexus) or at the Android Market or something that might be of help?
do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend
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do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend
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My question is, did you inform your carrier? Here, when that happened to my friend who wasn't too tech saavy, I called his carrier, had the phone blocked right away, and told them what network it was on via the same information that you received via email. The actually contact the manufacturer and the police and were able to track it down on their network, find the phone and press charges. That IMEI number is huge as it tells the carrier what exact tower the phone is connected to. In densely populated areas, that's 1-2km max. Cross reference the people at work that live in that area and boom. Done like dinner.
Did you try Samsung Dive website??
www.samsungdive.com
the_metal said:
do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend
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My question is, did you inform your carrier? Here, when that happened to my friend who wasn't too tech saavy, I called his carrier, had the phone blocked right away, and told them what network it was on via the same information that you received via email. The actually contact the manufacturer and the police and were able to track it down on their network, find the phone and press charges. That IMEI number is huge as it tells the carrier what exact tower the phone is connected to. In densely populated areas, that's 1-2km max. Cross reference the people at work that live in that area and boom. Done like dinner.
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Yeah I know that, but I called both the police and my carrier and gave them my IMEI and asked if they could do such thing.. and both said that they can't do such a thing, ONLY if the phone has the original SIM card... I think they just don't want to help me at all.
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Did you try Samsung Dive website??
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Tried that one. But I need to set it up on my phone first. Keep in mind that the phone is allready stolen and the SIM card has been changed.
I'm hoping to get a smartphone (either a Moto-G or Nexus 5) without having to pay for a data plan. Yes, I know there are dozens of topics asking whether or not this can be done; I've read everyone--that's why I'm making this new thread.
There are a lot of different things I see stated on ways to get around AT&T automatic application of expensive data-plans when they detect that you're using a smartphone. Some people have said that all you have to do is turn off 3G Data Use from the menu of the new phone BEFORE inserting a new SIM card, and then insert the old dumphone sim card and everything will work. Some people make vague allusions to changing the IMIE--to which some people claim that's illegal, and others claim AT&T or random clerks at Radio Shack will do this for you upon request. Still others claim that all you need to do is install a "data blocker" program onto the smartphone before switching SIM cards, and it will do the trick.
The basic goal seems to be "hiding" the IMEI number from AT&T.
So, my question: how does AT&T recognize the IMEI number? Will they see it only if the phone is active on their 3G/4G/LTE networks? Or do they see it "through" the normal dumbphone calling networks?
My apologies if this is a stupid question. I really don't know anything about phones are anything about non-PC electronics or software in general. Basically, I'd like a smartphone but refuse to pay an exhorbitant monthly fee for a feature I'd never use (wifi is everywhere I go), and am not in a position where I can switch carriers, and it's like I'm part of a(n evidently sizable) demographic that no one wants to market to.
If times haven't changed too much from when I tried the same thing 2 years ago, you should just be able to request that all data on your line be blocked. I would try calling them before you switch the SIM to the smartphone and ask for all data to be disabled to your line, then swap the SIM. I would also leave the data turned off on the smartphone for good measure. This is basically how I got around your same issue with AT&T, and it doesn't have to necessarily come down to illegally changing the IMEI or "hiding" the IMEI from the carrier. Eventually they'll cross-check your device and figure out it's a smartphone and add your data. But to my knowledge, the adding of the data is all automatically done by computers; so if the system sees that all data is disabled for you, it shouldn't attempt to add anything.
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