I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
tcnk said:
I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
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Well, I have been saying that for ages, you are the first one who share this with me!
Yep, it is too slowwwwww with me too, but I found a little trick to avoid that!
In the Screen Mirror, go to "Refresh", set the "Predefined Settings" to "PIM, Word, Database". This will make Screen Mirror quite fast and acceptable.
If you set it to be "Photo/Presentation", then the imate will be too slowwwww, while if you set it to be "Animation" or "MPEG video", then the Screen Mirror will never work again!!! and there is no way to use it or make a presentation. I had to Hard-Reset my iamte to change the settings to "PIM, Word, Database"!!
Any way, I was able to make a prsentation on the setup of "PIM, Word, Database", but can not make the display in landscape!!, or, I can run the show in the normal portrait display, using "stretch" option in "layout" but it looks ugly!!
What did you do in this regard?
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
chris_khho said:
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
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The presentation software that comes with the backPack is fantastic. Do not confuse it with Screen Mirror which is the apllication that simply projects your entire PDA screen. Screen Mirror is certainly handy for training in PDA software applications but not used for powerpoint presentations.
One feature the BackPack presentation software has that the laptop does not is the ability to project only the presentation slides (via the lcd projector) but display both the speakers notes and the presentation slides on the screen of the PPC. I find this very handy as I use the speakers notes for questions and answers as part of my test for understanding slides.
Ed
I guess "Chris" and most users (including me) are looking for Powerpoint presentations, if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!! unless you need it to use CF Card!, then it might be useflul to have it, and as you "Ed" mentioned, to make a presentation about xda, to project the data, then yes, it is good to have as well.
Note that Windows 2003SE (2nd Edition) has good features that will help in presentations! (the Landscape View and 640X480 resolution)! I am waiting for it to update my imate and then try BackPack for presentation once again!
Sorry GoldenSands I don't understand
I think the backPack works great for powerpoint presentations, that's the main thing I use it for. I have the presentations saved either on an SD card or a CF if I have to take a lot of large files. But even from the SD or main memory the presentation software works a treat. The backpacks battery is smaller but it does prolong battery life and that is a bonus too. Without the BackPack I cannot use my XDA II for presentations.
What do you mean
if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!!
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Sorry not trying to be silly I just miss your point.
Ed
Dear Ed, may be I did not express my thoughts very well. When I did a presentation using the backpack, I had the following problems:
1- Imate is slow.
2- Presnetation is in portrate, not in landscape (as normal Power Point presentation).
3- Small size (small resolution) not in 640X480.
4- If I use Stretch Option (to get large projection), then quality is poor.
Now, taking above points into consideration, presentaion done through backpack is not powerful and I can not do any presentaion, although I need it badly, I do about 3 to 4 presentaions a week!
That's what I meant by buying it for presentaions (to do Powerpoint ones) will not help since I have to design the Powerpoint presentation in certain size to fit the backpack limitations.
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
GoldenSands said:
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
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OK, seems like you do things different than me.
Firstly I do not use ScreenMirror for presentations, I use ClearVue Presentation Suite v2.3.377 which came on the CD with my backpack.
Presentations work at "normal" speed with transition effects etc. And as I said earlier I do like ability to see the speakers notes on my XDA II but only project the slides to the LCD projector.
Next in answer to your questions above.
Q1. Yes (Using ClearVue)
Q2, Yes (Using ClearVue), 640 x 480 x 64k @ 85Hz or 800 x 600 x 64K @ 60Hz
Q3. As I said I do not use SpeedMirror for presentations. By the way, my Mirror application is called ScreenMirror v2.01, NOT SpeedMirror, are they different? Anyway, when I use ScreenMirror yes it can be slow but is OK for how to teach using PPC applications etc and it only operates in Portrait. I do not use it for power point slide shows.
Q4. When I use it, and that is not often, I usually have it on PIM, Word, Database. For example It has been OK on how to teach people to use SpriteBackupPremium at a PPC user group meeting. No need for landscape as it is an application to Mirror the PPC screen, that is it only projects the PPC exactly as it looks in on your hand unit. That is why it is good for teaching how to use the PPC applications.
Hope this helps.
Ed
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OK, seems like you do things different than me.
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Dear Ed,
Yep, I guess I was totally not aware about making the presentation through the ClearVue PPT directly (without using the Screen Mirror)!
I went to "Setup" / "Preferences" in ClearVue, then was surprised about the option that allows me to use External Video Adaptor! That was the reason; I was using Screen Mirror (not Speed Mirror).
Thanks for your advice, that's the benefit of this forum, we learn from each other. However, I need a little advice from you, when I choose to use the "External Video Adaptor" in ClearVue, using VGA as an Output. Then try to open a presentation, an error message appears saying "Another Presentation viewer is running, please close the other viewer and try again". While there is nothing else is running. I have even re-installed the VGA Package!
Well, one time after several trials, I got different message: "The External display is in use by another application. Would you like to continue to use the external display?" whatever I chose, nothing appears in the screen.
Note that I am making all these tests using the Monitor, not the projector, do you think this make a different?
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Yep, it helped a lot. Please let me know if you had experienced such problems with the imate and BackPack.
Thank you..
Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
I presume you tried performing a softreset with backpack and monitor connected, then before starting any other applications load clearvue, open your presentation file, then tap on the slideshow icon?
Not sure what else to suggest but please post your results.
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now .
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
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I was away for a short business trip. However, I was trying to do more tests and more research. I still get the same error, but what surprised me more today, even if I try to open any presentation using ClearVeu (selecting the option of using External VGA) while the BackPack is not attached; I still get the same error. I also connected the imate to my projector, it works OK with Screen Mirror, but never worked with the ClearVue. I did a lot of trials and restarts.
I also did a little research, and I found this useful link. But I guess I am alone getting this error!!
http://www.ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1916
Remaining one more test to do, I will use the imate of my brother-in-low, I am going to install the Screen Mirror Software along with ClearVue (of course) and will try to run a presentation, lets see what error we get! hope it works, if so, it means then my imate (or Windows) might have a problem since BackPack works OK.
By the way, what Rom version are you using, is it 1.72 or 1.66?
ednap said:
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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That's nice, Juabial is not far from where do I live. I live now in Dhahran (almost 100Km away from Jubail). I have not been in Empty quarter or even a lot of places, except major cities in Kingdom!!
I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
Ed
ednap said:
I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
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Mmmm, you gave me a good hint again! I will test ClearVue with BackPack and try to make a presentation on 2 imates, one with 1.72 ROM and another one with 1.66 ROM. If it worked, then will see away to downgrade mine to 1.66!! I will try to do this test ASAP. Thanks a lot dear.
Bug in ClearVue
I'm having the same bug with ClearVue with the message "another presentation viewer is running, ...".
I visited the Westtek website and found that there's an updated release of the software. They want money for the update.
I think that the whole thing is offensive. Selling an untested application is offensive, asking for more money to fix it is offensive. I wish I could throw the product back in the face of the Dubai Duty Free employee.
BTW, no one should downgrade their ROM to get one crappy application to function.
Just wondered if you guys had seen this page, on O2 site for a ClearVue update for 1.72
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/VGA_Backpack.htm
I don't have a backpack, so I can't test it but it might solve your problems!
HTH
Fin
Bug in ClearVue and the Expansion Pack
I tested the update and it didn't work. I wrote to club i-mate support.
I'll keep you posted on their reply.
Thanks to all for the forum.
Dear "findus", thanks a lot for the link, but as "OZK" has mentioned, it did not work, hope some one has a solution!
Replies regarding the Presentation Viewer Bug
Club i-Mate:
Thank you for writing in, I personally tested the i-mate back pack with version 1.72 and did not come up with any error messages.
Westtek:
I have not been able to reproduce the problem. Please try the following and let me know at what step you get the error message.
1. Soft reset your device
2. Open ClearVue Presentation
3. Open a Presentation file
4. Run a Slide Show on your pocket PC (without configuring external video)
5. Exit the Slide Show and exit ClearVue Presentation.
6. Plug in the backpack and open ClearVue Presentation
7. Open a Presentation file
8. Configure the External Video Adapter in ClearVue Presentation (do not open the mirror software)
9. Run a slide show
I tried the steps and the problem is still there.
Now I'm out of ways to get help and being in the Middle East, there's no way I can get my money back (no one protects consumers here).
Update to Back Pack Driver
After having denied that they had a problem with the dirver, Club i-mate have posted an update:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/BackpackDriver.sa.CAB
They never bothered themseleves to reply to my emails, I found the update by chance.
If the above fix doesn't solve the back pack problem, try hard resetting. Hard reseting worked for me even without the updated driver.
I've roamed the forum and didn't found much about this possibity.
Could a wm6 ppc such as a Kaiser could be used as a bluetooth keyboard and paired with, let's say, a PS3 ?
I know there is a BT gps forwarding app (gps2blue) and so it doesn't seem totally undoable...
any thoughts ?
Have a look at http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/xkbdbthid.php .
I wanted to port it to wm6 but I do not have enough knowledge and experience in ppc programming. It uses GTK and Bluez and runs on linux, so I think porting it would mean rewriting mostly everything (the bluetooth part as well as the window system part).
But who knows, there are such great developers on xda-dev. Maybe someone has enough time to do this ? If so, I'm really interested.
you could use an application like TabletRemoteControlSuite of SallingClicker. they don't implement Bluetooth HID protocol, but they can be used to remotely control keyboard and mouse over bluetooth / wifi...
Thanks for the link. Sallingclicker is a nice concept but requires a host client, which is a no-no for using in non mac/pc environment.
xkbd-bthid is actually closer to what i'm looking for, sadly not running on wm6...
true, all tools I know require a 'server' application running on you computer...which can be annoying
mabye you can make over your request to Teksoft. They already made the BlueMouse application which enables your PDA to function as a real bluetooth mouse...so I guess they have enough knowledge to create a similar application for a virtual bluetooth keyboad HID, but then it will probably also be shareware instead of opensource...
EDIT: while looking thru the forum at Teksoft, I just noticed that they are already working on a Bluetooth Keyboard HID for theire program Bluemouse...http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1583&highlight=keyboard
Hu...no, from what i gathered from the teksoft site, what i'm looking for is the exact opposite: pairing my kaiser AS a standard bt keyboard, not pairing it WITH one.
thanks for the link anyway.
you're right, I mixed them up...
hi,
did you already found something for wm6? I'm looking for exactly the same function.
regards
for now this is the solution which is the closest by far:
anyRemote
otherwise tuxmobil.org has some programs listed, but nothing really compareable to xkbd-bthid. sadly.
BlueTooth Windows Media Player control???
Does any one know If I can use my ppc to control windows media player remotely??
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You can try GRemote, you can connect it through ActiveSync/BT/WiFi, it can use any SIP as keyboard or the hardware keyboard (it has an option for the side of opening the hardware keyboard, for Touch Pro and TyTN II (they open in different directions)), it can be used to control WMP, and not shure about WinAmp, it can be used as TouchPad and as a GameePad. It can be used as Logitech MX Air, but your phone needs a G-Sensor.
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Does any one know If I can use my ppc to control windows media player remotely??
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Salling clicker is a really good solution for that.
i'm using it to control the mouse/media player/winamp/screen....
there are many scripts out there for this app which let you control a lot of aspects of your comp.
Gremote did not work with my device or computer. too hard to set up. spent an hour and a half before I realized that it is in the diamond section, and probably will not work for me anyway. The rest of the stuff I found is for java.
This reallly bugs me. didn't anyone at MS think about using a ppc to control wmp through activesync??? I bet they thought of it at apple.
F""K it. I give up.
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Gremote did not work with my device or computer. too hard to set up. spent an hour and a half before I realized that it is in the diamond section, and probably will not work for me anyway. The rest of the stuff I found is for java.
This reallly bugs me. didn't anyone at MS think about using a ppc to control wmp through activesync??? I bet they thought of it at apple.
F""K it. I give up.
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GRemote should work on other devices, altough without acceloremeter some parts will not work completely, but I expect the keyboard and mouse to be working. I'll try myself on my wizard this week.
Did you try Salling Clicker? Very nice tool with very good integration for windows mobile and itunes remote control. and you extend with many script from their forum.
PPC - Keyboard
I need to be able to either plug my Touch Pro into the computer via USB cable which i use to sync or connect it via bluetooth by plugging in some sort of USB dongle.
Either way, I will need to be able to not have to install activesync or any other drivers. I need a plug-n-play solution.
I will be working on multiple computers which have just been re-imaged at work. I do not want to swap keyboards & mouse back and forth between them constantly; however, swapping the dongle or USB cord to my phone wouldn't be as bad. I cannot install software on these PC's to support this.
I would like to plug it in and it recognizes it as a keyboard/mouse just like it would with a real keyboard or mouse.
How would I go about doing this?? Does the Salling Clicker software support this??
bugsysiegals said:
I need to be able to either plug my Touch Pro into the computer via USB cable which i use to sync or connect it via bluetooth by plugging in some sort of USB dongle.
Either way, I will need to be able to not have to install activesync or any other drivers. I need a plug-n-play solution.
I will be working on multiple computers which have just been re-imaged at work. I do not want to swap keyboards & mouse back and forth between them constantly; however, swapping the dongle or USB cord to my phone wouldn't be as bad. I cannot install software on these PC's to support this.
I would like to plug it in and it recognizes it as a keyboard/mouse just like it would with a real keyboard or mouse.
How would I go about doing this?? Does the Salling Clicker software support this??
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no it doesn"t... so far I couldn't find any application wich will work without installing some kind of 'server' on your pc, you always need a PDA and PC application. The apps which are working like this are: SallingClicker (many nice extra features for music and presentations), GRemote (freeware) and PPC Table (nice interface).
My small sony ericsson very simple mobile phone supports a bt mouse and bt keyboard interface. I don't need anything to be installed on pc (except bluetooth stack) and it will recognize my phone as if it is a standard bluetooth mouse or keyboard. Such an application would be very nice for Windows Mobile...
Anyone use this software with the touch cruise?
I have been an avid user of this software for a long time now, and it just seems soooooo slow on the cruise.
I was previously using it with an HTC Apache and it seemed much more responsive...
Anyone else have similar issue?
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Update: I enabled turbo mode and edited some other settings and enabled data compression and it seems to improve the functionality.
Hope this helps someone else
I've been using 6.01 build 1256 on my Kaiser and now for some weeks on my TC and it's performing the same, fast and good.
No problems at all here.
I'm using it with an Orbit 2 and it seems fine to me, just like the Orbit, TytN and Tytn 2 I've used it with. The only niggle is that I use it to type out SMS messages when I'm at a PC but the word suggestion feature on the Orbit 2 (which seems to be a replacement for the usual Windows Mobile one), gets in the way a bit so that I have to type s-l-o-w-l-y or it drops characters. I'd love to know how to switch the Orbit 2 back to using the normal word suggestion thing.
Pocket controller
Use this programme and Shall I again this problem - I can't draw down skin HTC Touch Cruise .
You can me him send ?
[email protected]
The skin for the Touch Cruise?
It won't let me download it either...you have to have a "registered version" of the program and have a valid lisence to download skins for the updated phones...it's not a big deal though, I just use the default skin, it looks fine.
surgex0 said:
The skin for the Touch Cruise?
It won't let me download it either...you have to have a "registered version" of the program and have a valid lisence to download skins for the updated phones...it's not a big deal though, I just use the default skin, it looks fine.
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I've registered it so I've got the skin, but TBH I always use it with the skin feature turned off anyway, it's too much window around the screen. The phone is usually close enough to hand to press the physical buttons if I need to.
I have got skin on all possible to phones but Cruise far from it nor and registered PCP Shall I
Can you please help me with Pocket Controller.
I just installed it to both Pc (and when connected the cruise with USB active sync) , to the device. I can not connect to the TC.
When I press Connect it tries to oconnect:
Please Wait...
connecting using LAN/WAN...
connecting to 169.254.2.1...
establishing connection...
But nothing happens. not connection at all
thanks
There are other alternatives like EveryWAN RemoteSupport
Do you think that a free tool limited to cable/USB remote control of a PDA would be useful ?
e.g.: the product referenced here: EveryWAN RemoteSupport, is capable of much more, but I could decide to make a free version to help developer community.
The product which is designed to work over cellular networks and wifi would be restricted to cable/USB connection and totally free of charge or time-bomb.
PS: I am part of the company making the product ... which is a companion to our flagship Mobile Device Management and security product called EveryWAN MobilityManager
andyturner said:
I've registered it so I've got the skin, but TBH I always use it with the skin feature turned off anyway, it's too much window around the screen. The phone is usually close enough to hand to press the physical buttons if I need to.
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Can you please send us the HTC Touch Cruise skin?
EveryWAN
hasta_la_vista said:
Do you think that a free tool limited to cable/USB remote control of a PDA would be useful ?
e.g.: the product referenced here: EveryWAN RemoteSupport, is capable of much more, but I could decide to make a free version to help developer community.
The product which is designed to work over cellular networks and wifi would be restricted to cable/USB connection and totally free of charge or time-bomb.
PS: I am part of the company making the product ... which is a companion to our flagship Mobile Device Management and security product called EveryWAN MobilityManager
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Doesn't go draw down nor after clerkish needed data
athanaso77 said:
Can you please send us the HTC Touch Cruise skin?
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Not to be a stickler, but I don't think uploading the skin onto here would be a good idea, since you can only get it if you have the registered version of the program.
EveryWan looks like the Enterprise version of pocket controller..
It looks very interesting, and I'm glad to see that there are people making amazing software like that for free.
Personally, I do not need all of the extra features which is why I'll stick with PCPro, and also the reason why I didn't download the enterprise version.
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