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So, what do you think?
(I hope this is not considered a rant)
We're actually just waiting on the Buzz/Raptor news. We'll all kno the answer soon enough I guess.
I agree, if the news is coming from Buzz, I have no doubt whether the ROM exists or not.
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
tjempeng said:
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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Me too.
What will change with wm2005? There are tons of wm2003 applications for our devices to keep us satisfied for long long time. I am not saying that I am not interested in getting a working rom for magician, but if this doesn't happen in the right way (official upgrade) we will have many problems and no support at all. So apart from satisfying our curiosity what is our gain?
I must admit that I am rather curious mind, so I'll probably be one of the first to try to put the wm2005 rom in my magician, but I am not expecting much and I am sure after some day coping with the problems I and many others would like to switch back to the good old wm2003.
Anyway I wish good luck to Buzz and all the other guys invloved in this "adventurous" project.
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
kta said:
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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I am not talking about an official version but for a leaked one. The official of course should be better and have more benefits! That's undoubtable!
And if you are wondering for the difference about win98 and XP, try installing and living with XP on a Pentium 166. Simply you can't because p166 was not designed to be able to handle winXP.
I own a computer shop and people where asking for Windows 98 on a Pentium 4 - 1.4GHz with 256 or 512MB RAM!
Regarding WM5, agreed, I'm only talking about a stable version (whether it's official or not). Mind you, the WM5 we're all waiting for IS MEANT to run on the Magician as it was specifically built for it. Otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place.
And according to Microsoft, the Magician meets the WM5 minimum requirements, mainly being an Xscale compatible CPU, 64MB RAM and 64MB ROM.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726702
Check out the O2 XDA Atom...
1. The O2 XDA Atom will have the same processor (or type) as the HTC Magician.
2. The O2 XDA Atom will have Windows Mobile 5.0 (along with other nice things like a long-awaited FM tuner)
3. HTC could have made a Windows Mobile 5.0 build for the Magician and given it some more life, but new devices is the main reason they didn't. More profit here.
4. You guys will be all over this like a free porn DVD giveaway, and get this ROM ported over to the Magician in total defiance of HTC's abandonment stance.
5. Some of you will buy it anyway.
UPDATE: The Atom is not designed by HTC, so chances of ROM portability to the Magician just got a lot slimmer.
That Atom looks very very nice. I would almost be tempted to bankrupt myself if it weren't for the fact that the price tag is, praise the Lord, far too high for me to even consider it.
'praise the Lord' :?:
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Interesting stuff, what I like the most is that it says "Most likely" WM7 can be used on older devices because all the changes like screen rotation with device will use the cam instead of hardware like accelerometers and stuff... wonder how long till my wizard is sporting WM7...
they gonna turn ppc's into sm/iphone/touch ****?
WM7 can be used on older devices
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...taking 40 of 47 mb mem free.....
does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
WM7 on an 2-year old wizard?
Realistically, the chances of WM7 running on a standard Wizard are somewhere between slim and none. I can offer two strong reasons: memory and speed. As someone noted earlier there are only 49 MB of program memory. Right now mine has only 19 free. If Microsoft follows its normal OS expansion rate, 49 MB won't be nearly enough.
As for speed - we,, we all know how fast the Wizards's chip is and - even with overclocking - it's slow. And in a year it will seem slower still.
So.. unless someone is going to begin to sell an aftermarket Wizard chipset on a higher capacity and faster piece of silicon - which I find unlikely and uneconomical -WM7 just isn't in the cards for old Wizards.
Having said that, I would love to be wrong.
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
Well too bad couldn't have said the same for my MPX300 it was stuck with WM2003se............ but WM6 seem a bit cool tho.............
You have the MPX300?? Interested in selling?
it's not 100% tho ............ water got on the screen so i can't get past the screen alignment when i reset the phone
ND4SPD said:
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
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True, pity mine sucks as it has a habit of spontaneously discharging the battery so I can't turn it on, thus I switched to the Wizard and now my iPhone.
EDIT: Looking at that Windows Mobile 7 article, I'm severely tempted back to Windows Mobile if that takes off!
I don't think wizard can handle wm7 (full OS) but i'm sure rom chef's will find tha way to adapt some programs that will be used with it... maybe some hacking will allow software to be run in an acceptable level... not the OS but the feeling of it...
I heard that wm7 will be released on 2009. Is it true? I hope they will release it in this year.
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
i bet they release this year cause of the iphone even though its overated people are buying it instead of windows mobile phones. Looks like it will be out next september i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise. The HTC touch should get an update to WM7 as the touchflo isnt that great tbh.
musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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watting 4 your upload.
many thanks in advance!
" i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise."
sadly at times picturs dont say 1000 words
by that logic the game dukenukeem forever would
had been released 10years agoe
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now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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waiting also
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
cortez said:
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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Me too. when ms had wizard on microsoft surface trailers, they should test wm7 on it
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have real WM 6.1 WWE yet?
guys i have some great news these two great windows mobile devs SGregory and kamikadze! are developing windows mobile 6.1 professional for our tornados am speechless omg!!!!!!!! (i know this from the windows mobile professional rom for the startrek thread Erofich confirm it) so lets wait and hope
Cool, but Professional is for PDA device, so we have to use virtual cursor? But this means we can use GPS software ^^
If it 's like the StarTrak one,then it 'll be awesome...i've got both devices and cant await...
most of my SmartphoneApps works well on Startrak Pro,the FakeCursor-Solution works well,the Pro-Os kicks my Phone into a NewWorld...
Only missing my Good 'ol Homescreen, have to familarifari with this new TodayOne...
Awesome!
Maybe I won't need to change my Tornado
Sounds great! I'd love to see it!
WOW!!!Its a great news!!!
GOOD LUCK TO THE DEVELOPERS!!!
Yes! Good luck to the cookers but I wont celebrate until I see the rom posted here
Very glad to hear about it, cannot wait to see the new ROM
这么强!!!已经在研究了吗?强力支持!!:d:d
Is it really the ah, it is unlikely that。
aha~!!Great job~
Great news!!!
At last I can rest.
I can't wait to see the rom
That's really great!I cant wait!
这是什么来着？
NiTroGenious said:
Great news!!!
At last I can rest.
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Hi howya!?
Your expertise and service maybe needed here, again soon!!
Take care & enjoy life.
When will it release,i am looking forward to it...
I'm not really seeing why anyone wants Pro on a smartphone.
There is a reason Pro only comes on touchscreen devices - because it is completely impractical on a non-touchscreen device. For one thing, keyboard shortcuts do NOT work. I don't know about most people, but I am quite accustomed to accessing menu options using the number keys. With Pro, you're forced to use the dpad.
Many smartphone apps also do not work in Pro, or if they work, are not usable.
It's cool as a "proof of concept", but for usability, it sucks. Completely impractical. It's about as useful as a touchscreen phone with a broken touchscreen.
what about the treo 750 it comes with pro and ppl love it i've used it my self and i have no problems what so ever, the lack of touchscreen dosnt even bother me it works like charm
Treo 750 has a touchscreen.
No manufacturer would be crazy enough to put Pro on a non-touchscreen device. It could have been done as far back as WM2003.
Ok I just flashed my TP with Shep's latest ROM. With the new look and new system of WM 6.5,,, I really really feel like I'm a n00b.
I have been using PPC for 5 years now. I owned Toshiba Wm 2002 PPC at first, and then hp iPAQ. First time I flashed my PPC was back when I owned a himalaya. It was a nice device but it fell off my from my pocket and the LCD is broken. A friend o mine asked me to sold its Mobo to him.
I bought eTen M600. It is a helluva device. It excel every PPC I ever used. With its latest ROM I flashed, it become the most stable PPC ever exist. I still own this device. Too bad it can not be upgraded to WM 6. The manufacturer says that its chip is not compatible with WM 6. but I need to have a WM 6 ROM since I need push mail feature badly.
And then I bought HTC TP. Flashed it yesterday and there I was,,, wandering what should I do to customize my PPC. The honeycomb menu is confusing me since I can't gain access to classic folderview program list.
I am not going to whine, but surely I have to revolutionize my (classic, old school) mind in order to adapt this new OS.
How exactly would someone reply to a thread like this?
I just want to express my feeling
hahaha
I agree... the honeycomb is not too easy to work with... it would be great if you could drag and drop the buttons to the positions that you would like them at. I have to click "Move to Top" about 100 times to get it in the order that I wanted.......
If you dont like it you could try quickmenu (I think that is what is is called) it is an app floating around that replaces your menu... It was mentioned to me in another post of mine. Personally I really dont like the Titanium look but there are many skins around to customize it if you want to use it. I use PROven ROM 6.5 with rhodium. I like it alot. customizing it is up to you. you can install different apps and try them out...
Sorry for being long-winded... You have been around long enough to know most of this just thought I would shoot my 2 cents into the mix.
Thanks,
SoBBie
All is on the title...
No more ROM in the future
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
thingonaspring said:
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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Yep, the Uni is unbeatable about the life, any vanilla ROM with one of the latest builds will be nice WM6.1/6.5
My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.
enigma1nz said:
My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.
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I agree completely. spb ms3.5 plus any lightweight stable rom will do the trick for 64MB uni pls take note however that spb ms is not for free (yu need a little resourcefulness though ).
of course, blessed are those with upgraded ram
thingonaspring said:
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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solution??? i guess we need to start cooking unless you will continue and start releasing new rom again
btw yur 21040 is one of the roms ive tested and found to be more responsive and compatible with spb ms 3 & 3.5. many thanks for sharing.. regards
phezthie
There are still a few Chefs alive in Uni section!
So Uni will never die, even if there is no mre new ROM´s we reached WM6.5 on a device with WM5, so we are actual.
And I´m sure someone will find the way to port the new look of WP7 in the future!
I have tested several HTC devices and have to agree, none of them can be compared, even if they are faster...not even my Rhodium (which is a great device)
UNIVERSAL will never die!!
OK, so a bit of a rom refresh would cheer people up. I'll package up a 21068/21051 rom in the next few days. This build has been running on my Uni for a few months now so I know it's stable, there's just some loose ends to tidy up. It'll also finally ditch tcpmp 0.81 in favour of the latest 0.72recomp3 which now matches 0.81 for playback speed and doesn't have the annoying screen rotation bug.
If you still love your uni, and you've not had it upgraded to 128mb yet - go and find a way to get it upgraded! It gives the phone a new lease of life - snappier, more versatile and it seems to improve battery usage. (I suspect the battery improvement is due to reduced CPU-load and Flash-reads when pagepooling is disabled)
Note that you can run a 64mb device without pagepooling, but RAM tends to fill up quite quickly, resulting in apps refusing to load or acting all crashy. That said, there are ways to improve memory management (auto-hibernate for one) that might make it more of an option.
@Enigma - 256MB would rock - particularly for those who like to dabble with linux/android. It's just a shame nobody makes 128mb chips in the right packaging. :-(
Great to know something new will come!!, hope for 64Mb too
Shame for me upgrade to 128mb it´s very hard to accomplish
Great news!
thingonaspring ,
greart news to hear!
I have been using Cotull Q3 WM 6.1 for ages.......nothing beats it. (IMHO)
And with 128 MB RAM it's "snappy".
A new ROM is always welcome.Waiting with appreciation.
Thanks.
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
And do you expect us to suggest any apps to include in the ROM or would it be a Vanilla one?
uni dead nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
mine has tomal V8.9, windows 6.1 and spb mobile shell (yes i was resourceful and got it.) and mine now runs like a charm and give my 64mb xda exec a new ui and fresh look.
we still need roms for our 64mb unis for all those like me that dont have ours upgraded.
carry on the good work cheff's we all really appreciate you keeping our unis alive.
long live the uni
btw i have the new nokia 5530, but my uni beats it hands done in everyway.
The rom is now uploaded here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643243
cheers thing will try it later. see wot its like with spb ms 3.5.3.
cheers mate
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thingonaspring ,
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
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I´m completly agree about this, I think we should ask OP first
@teddybear3k, do you think you can consider this request please?
Also today Sun Dream released a new ROM, so Uni will be still alive!!!
OK title changed.
Here I can tell my IMATEJASJAR not dead, he is the top, the only disadvantage is the ram, but I already have a donor hand and will follow the operation and 128mb ram will be happy if you still make good ROMs for our UNI, maybe one day I learn to cook roms for my faithful friend