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I got it but it seems to run VERY slow, much like IE. Not sure if I like it or not yet. Anyone else have an opinion on it? I know everyone says Opera Mini is the best, but I just cannot seem to fall for it. Any other web browsers out worth a try?
I'm waiting on Opera Mobile 9.
i tried it once...i was hard pressed to find the diffrence between that and opera 8.5 sa far as browsing goes. but opera is alot faster and more smooth. minimo is a resource hog. felt clunky.
compared to opermini....minimo is nothing.
point internet explorer on your phone to mino.opera.com
install and ejoy.
mobile firefox is coming soon
can't wait for that..
for now, i use opera mini 4
It is really slow ... too much resource usage.
when it runs it will run alone
for now use opera
and may be wait for an upgrade of mozilla
MS Deepfish should be interesting..... http://labs.live.com/deepfish/
There's a free trial of their completely redesigned 3.5 concept version web browser:
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I've been playing around with it tonight and I'm very impressed. It basically has all the speed advantages of Opera Mini in a proxy-less browser. The page rendering is very fast in full desktop view, with a cool full page view for quickly navigating to the desired section. The scrolling is momentum based, just like the iphone. Even with huge web pages, the scrolling remains smooth and it allows you to browse the page easily while it is still loading.
Go download it and check it out. I think you guys will be impressed.
nswenson said:
There's a free trial of their completely redesigned 3.5 concept version web browser:
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I've been playing around with it tonight and I'm very impressed. It basically has all the speed advantages of Opera Mini in a proxy-less browser. The page rendering is very fast in full desktop view, with a cool full page view for quickly navigating to the desired section. The scrolling is momentum based, just like the iphone. Even with huge web pages, the scrolling remains smooth and it allows you to browse the page easily while it is still loading.
Go download it and check it out. I think you guys will be impressed.
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have tried this today, impressions so far:-
using WiFi - WOW
using GPRS - soooooo slow
have to say it, this is brill but for day to day gonna have to stick with opera mini.
Chris
I didn't consider network speed requirements. My sprint connection is very fast on the HTC Vogue. the good thing about opera mini is the proxy helps with slow connections.
Got this last night and used it for a few hours and i must admit it is growing on me.
At first I thought opera mini was far better (and still is on grps/edge) but this is nice.
The only thing i dont like is the zoom. for me it would be nicer if the full page were full screen like mini, but that is only personal preference. it is quite good that you can see full size what you are looking at behind the zoom.
Not sure yet whether it is opera mini or Netfront for me yet (Netfront doent yet support plugins, but can be a default browser and does support links and downloads) but having it available until the end of march will certainly give us something to play with until Opera 9.5 arrives and really gives us all a challenge to decide.
it works well and has the advantage of default browser capability... but aside from links and downloads i like opera mini better, because it's more responsive and a whole lot faster / more accurate
I just started it:
At the default homepage the CPU usage is next to 0%.
But when I minimize netfront, it stays at 100%!!
Hello,i tried NetFront today and I think it is amazing, but i only tested on wifi and i don't succeed to connect me on gprs, yet I have entered the proxy address 195.115.25.168 from of operator: SFR (from france).
Can you help me please?
tested and feels better than opera mobile 8.65! zoom is also cool although not so cool like in opera mini 4..
It rocks on my touch....
But how to quick zoom the pages??
darkf0rce said:
Hello,i tried NetFront today and I think it is amazing, but i only tested on wifi and i don't succeed to connect me on gprs, yet I have entered the proxy address 195.115.25.168 from of operator: SFR (from france).
Can you help me please?
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I can't get it to work on wifi, can somebody explain how to..
nice browser on gprs/3g though. but i would like wifi also
tnx in advance,
Marcel van blankers
flaviopac said:
It rocks on my touch....
But how to quick zoom the pages??
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Double tap on the screen or press the centre of the Dpad twice very quickly.
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Double tap on the screen or press the centre of the Dpad twice very quickly.
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Thank you!!
This is the best browser which I have never seen.....
Very fast, stable on my Touch and it has lots of functions...
I can scroll all the pages with my finger, both horizontal and vertical ways...
And remember...
This is only a BETA!!!
o like the autocruise thingie. very very nice browser
This really might be the best browser out.
My settings for the fastest/best page viewing:
Browsing Mode: Simple
Display Mode: Normal
Zoom: 75%
Virtual Canvas: 1024x1024
It seems to be good on memory usage so far too.
Very cool
Very cool browser but its slow on AT&T's edge/gprs
can you watch youtube on it?
can you watch youtube using netfront?? or other videos from websites?
Phenomenal performance on wifi...seems to be a bit of a memory hog, but light years better than PIE...
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can you watch youtube using netfront?? or other videos from websites?
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No flash support as of yet, so no youtube. The web 2.0 sites work though. I tried out google maps and it actually worked, but very slow.
Anybody knows if they will release a smartphone version? I Guess this version isn't compatible with WM6 standard?
Ok, so I just got my Touch Cruise yesterday, and it is awesome, I absolutely love the form factor. HOWEVER, what's up with Opera Mini scrolling and zooming in/out slugishly???? On my 200mhz TIOMAP smartphone, Opera Mini works like a champ, and is way faster than any browser out there (yes way faster than IPhone's safari too). On the Touch Cruise, Opera Mini bogs and is choppy.
I know about the driver issue..but c'mon! Opera Mini is designed for low end phones, why is it choppy on my Touch Cruise? And more importantly, does anyone have a fix? Or is anyone using a ROM that doesn't have this issue?
Opera MINI is desgined for that, not the embedded Opera... Also, the driver issue affects all the programs that use the screen...
It seems that you are under the impression that I am confusing Opera Mobile for Mini... I'm not!
Either way it doesn't matter as the issue seems to have resolved itself on its own.
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...what's up with Opera Mini scrolling and zooming in/out slugishly??...
... Opera Mini works like a champ, and is...
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I could recommend the IE Scroll fix cab, that can be found around here, if you need further improvements until some driver fixes come around...
htc is not making a driver it seems just some optimizing for video playback and scrolling they said not sure if it's scrolling in general or only touchflow scrolling in which case it's doubtfull
that opera mini would benefit
being that it's a java program which always run slower then native wm programs
the speed difference could be because of 2 things
1. your current midletmanager is worse for operaMini then your old devices midletmanager
2. your old device ran wmX, X being an ealier version then your current wm
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the speed difference could be because of 2 things
1. your current midletmanager is worse for operaMini then your old devices midletmanager
2. your old device ran wmX, X being an ealier version then your current wm
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Well guys it turns out I was premature, the issuse pretty much resolved itself, so things are acceptable now. OperaMini managed to speed up the next time I started it up. And after doing some comparison tests (my other phone is a Qtek 8310 w/WM6 and Esmertec...so similar sofware), I can confirm that our TC is faster! As it shoud be, but its still not flawlessly smooth as it should have been :tounge in cheek:
i have yet to try opera mini but opera mobile is smooth as a babys butt for scrolling. it does have other issues tho...
wsmith79, I would definitely recommend that you try Mini, it has its limitations, but its a lot faster than Mobile or anything else out there.
I as well as many others use Mini to browse the real web and Mobile/PIE when we need to download things.
hey guys, i was thoroughly disappointed with opera mobiles performance.. it really sucked (for me at least). Page would take a long time to open, and the windows would move all over the place while the page was loading, etc. Anyways, i finally decided to download opera mini and its a world of a difference, its amazing! however to do it correctly, follow this guys advise:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/running-opera-mini-41-on-windows-mobile-2/
dont just go to operamini.com and download the version they tell you, because then you have to agree to that message everytime you go to a page. if you do it the way this guy says, you only have to give permission the first time you open opera. he also shows you a way to have it as a program, eliminating the need to open the jbed java app to launch from there.
another thing i did, is because our device is vga, the font was small. i set it to extra large, and its very good. even the scrolling is much better on the mini version, and ITS MUCH FASTER!! i cant emphasize the last one enough. anyways, just wanted to let u guys know, good luck
ps: also, something that is huge for me, typing something into a webpage is also much better now. on opera mobile, i would have to try to fit the screen size so i can see what i'm typing; with opera mini, it opens a new window for you to t ype in, it's like your typing in word or something. makes a huge difference IMO
omar
I couldn't agree more.
Unless something is wrong with just my phone, I can't see how anyone would like Opera Mobile.
Just open any forum page here. Probably takes 20-30 seconds to load on Opera Mobile on a fast Wifi connection...and that's after it takes 5-10 seconds to just load up.
Do it on Opera Mini and it takes maybe 2 on a 1x connection, even.
Opera Mini doesn't have tabs, but you are saving so much time elsewhere, that's livable.
It also runs through a proxy, so I guess you could get stale pages or https stuff won't work great.
But, for 95% of the browsing I do, Mini works perfectly and is unbelievably fast and it's clear on the vga screen.
I also chose Extra Large fonts.
If you decide to use Opera Mini, here's a way to make it the "default" for opening links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384271
Have you guys tried the newer version of Skyfire? If so, do you like Mini better?
ya i use mini much more than mobile
btw just download this zip, extract cab and install it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113596&d=1221663410
it will ask if u want to make mini default browser...also installs java if u dont have it.
i change my image quality to high and font to biggest settings
I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
yeah, im done using opera mobile, mini works so good!
i also use piscel and sometimes skyfire if im next to an ac jack... ill use ie just as i do on desktop, BUSINESS ONLY!
I used Opera Mobile for about a minute....
Help: I am having a problem with Mini not fully loading pages and getting white screens. I have Jbed 2.1 (read it was better than the newest version) and the newest Mini. Any advise?
I love the speed of Mini (thanks for posting the download link), but even on extra large the text is very very small. Is there a way to make it show up bigger?
XL3N7 said:
I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
Another opera mini fan here, the fastest browser I have used, that includes skyfire. Only issue is lack of tabs, but otherwise its great
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
im using a mix of ucweb and operamini.. loving it. the only thing wrong with this phone is the lack of softkeys.. makes browsing with mini a little harder..
I've been using the "vga" version of skyfire since it came out, and I love it for its full browsing experience, speed, and ability to watch video in the browser.
Thank you for this thread!
I never used opera mini before and I was amazed by it's speed. It's not going to be my default browser (that's still PIE because I almost only view sites which are optimized for mobile devices) but it's absolutely perfect for viewing this forum for example!
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
Opera Mobile.. it's just CRAP compared to Opera Mini.
CONS Opera Mobile:
- load time (HTC/Opera cheat by preloading Opera at StartUp)
- lots of squares while dragging
- many times while you drag the stupid software cannot make difference between dragging and tapping
- if you drag the page and the page is still loading, you are dropped to other position that you are.. this is so annoying.. you have to drag again or wait until all the page elements are loaded by the browser
So, Opera Mini is very good on the majority of sites. (there are problem with the pages with many images, it cannot handle all of them).
I'm using a VGA version of jbed and I don't have problem with font size ANYMORE.
Big thanks to trueg. Get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2973176&postcount=23
if i'm not mistaken, the reason why opera mini is so fast is because the pages are actually cached or pre-processed by Opera servers and then sent to you. with Opera mobile, you connect to the website directly.
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
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That's very strange. It works great on my Blueangel, Wizard, Universal, Trinity and Raphael with all the custom roms I have installed on them and with the shipped rom on the Raphael the first day I got it.
Try installing on the SD card or the device memory, whichever you haven't tried.
Still have to say yes
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site? If I exit and open, the first time I try to open I get this annoying request. Followed the directions exactly and had no problems?
Also can't seem to browse with this on wifi, anyone else having this issue?
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Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site?
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Yes, I have the same issue. But since I just have to click ok once in every session it's ok for me.
I have really been enjoying using the new version of Internet Explorer Mobile in WM 6.5. It certainly isn't as fast as Opera Mobile, but I seem to like it a little more. Has anyone else been using Internet Explorer for the most part on their phones with WM 6.5 installed?
I have. I've been resisting installing any other browser with this install.
I'm trying to give the 6.5 version of IE a good chance before installing anything else. So far, so good.
I am as well with my newest test cook. Does anyone now how to access the about screen in the new IE? I know it is supposed to be IE8 mobile but got got some co-workers with the "seeing is believing" mentality.
I use new IE too. It was one of the reasons that I stick with WM6 from the first place.
So far, so good for me too.
There is no About screen. I 've been looking for it before with no luck.
i don't its to slow and buggy for me :[ i haven't used it recently but i prefer opera much more !
I cant change te default browser to IE
Over the years I have refined my browsing to pda pages, (lower graphics and less DL time).
I cannot change the default browser to IE (I dont like Opera) no mater which tweak i use ( I also cant get suggested words to show either).
any suggestions
I am also using PIE included with WM6.5 as my main browser. Before WM6.5 I would use a combination of Opera Mini, IE and Skyfire. Since I switched to WM6.5 I haven't had a need to install Opera Mini or Skyfire.
I'm enjoying the new IE under 6.5 as well. I find it faster and more reliable than Opera, and I like the fact that Activesync 'keeps' my favorites across multiple flashes,etc.
It works really well for me...
It's also pretty cool that embedded flash animations work as well. Heck even Youtube works although the video is choppy. =(
I use it, Opera is definatly faster, but having favs sync'd is really nice. It is a little buggy, but I dont think theres anything running WM 6.5 that isnt a little buggy. Definatly a step up for M$ but im sure they could do alot better, they dont seem to care much about any of their browsers which makes no sense to me being as it is the main gateway for most people running windows to access the internet, but what do I know.
Jumping between hyperlinks in IEMobile on WM6.5
Like another poster here, I've have 'adjusted' my browsing patterns and only browse websites that are "PDA" friendly; such as m.facebook.com, m.zdnet.com, m.engadget.com etc
Unfortunately the new IEMobile does not allow me to jump between hyperlinks and forms... instead its 'scrolling' the whole page.
I've tried AdvancedConfig's option of "disabling" the 4-way navigation but that just doesn't work.
Does anyone have any other ideas?