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Video's On The Fuze

How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.

For best performance, it's best that you convert it. The more you start doing it and mess with the settings, the better you'll become and find which settings yield the best results.

I originally tried Quicktime Pro for this, but the people at Apple have decided that the iPhone screen is the biggest resolution they want to support on export, and I don't want the player scaling up, so I had to look elsewhere.
I'm playing with a program called Allok MPEG4 converter (http://www.alloksoft.com/mp4_converter.htm), which seems to do a nice job if a bit slowly. Of course, to do a nice job requires LOTS of processing power. I have been using the defaults except for making the output H264 and 640x480. Once the files are converted, I just copy them to the Fuze's SD card and play them from there.
I use a program called VideoReDo (www.videoredo.com) to suck in the DVD files and make a single large MPG file from them (the free DVDShrink will also work for this, if you can still find it somewhere), then load that single file into Allok and let it run. A decent DVD will take pretty much overnight to process. The results have been very good so far.
Start with a small (5 minutes or so) piece to practice with and try various settings, then when you're happy, let the full movie conversion run overnight.
Also, be aware that most commercial DVD's will have DRM and you will have to deal with that before you can do anything with the files.

xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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If you are converting from an .avi file then you can try PocketDivXEncoder (freeware). It has presets for Diamond which you should start with. You should decide whether you want VGA or QVGA. VGA should look a little sharper but will be ~30% increase in file size and on a 2.8" screen the difference may not be much. Test for your self
I would modify some of the settings though. Leave video as is. Change the audio (small arrow on the left) to 32Khz 80 kbps stereo. Go to advanced and tick 2-Pass and Xvid.

What is your source file for the movie? If its on DVD then you definately want to convert it. Once all of my media is ripped or converted to the container / format I want I leave it at computer base resolution and just play it on the phone. Core player has done pretty well at handleing what I put at it so far.
Now that PocketDivx Encoder is a good program and does a pretty good job and shrinking files down.

Any recommendations on codecs, resolution and bitrate? I would especially be interested if anyone knew which settings preserved battery life the best while watching video.

Menneisyys has a good thread on video playback.
I use Core Player and I really don't covert any of the TV shows that I watch.
Windows Movie Maker is a great tool too. Its free (if you have XP SP2 installed) and it uses WMV format that Windows Media Player Mobile will play without any addons.
If you watch alot of movies on your Touch Pro I would suggest investing in Core Player, it plays most of the commonly used codex and its pretty quick too.
Bit rates and resolutions: I have found that if its a TV show that is about 40 to an hour, I dont have to do anything with it. For example an episode of House is about 42 minutes long, its 624x352 and running at 23.97 frames. With Core Player the episode looks flawless, eventhough the statistics on Core Player say its dropping frames, I can't tell.
I would think that a full length movie would perform a little worse, or a TV show with alot of action.
Also fatheadpi has this thread posted about encoding video for the Raphael phones.

Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try them out.

Watch Movies on Fuze Problems
So I got an HTC FUZE not too long ago and have been trying desperately to get it to play movies.
Windows Mobile Player does not want to play the wmv files I give it...
and no matter what file I use with CorePlayer the audio is terrible
mpegs, mp4, avi, h.264...
All of these videos will play fine on my computer but as soon as I get it to my phone, the audio goes to crap.
To make it all more difficult, I only have a Mac to sync this device with, so Windows based programs are useless to me...
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
'Jammin

I too have been trying and so far no Success
Operating my Fuze in cooperation with a Mac Laptop is difficult enough. The programs most suggest to convert videos exist mainly for PC.
I have used many methods of conversion and found no luck with producing watchable quality on my FUZE
CorePlayer gives me bad audio playback when the video played perfectly on my computer
and Windows Media Player will not play my bigger wmv files for some reason.
Let me know if you found a combo of programs and settings that really works
'Jammin

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use this and it works great. Converting the video is a pain in the butt.

+1 Take time to convert but yield a much better result in viewing your video in either Album or WMP

Thanks for the info, but isn't that program for PC's?
I have many different methods of converting videos
from freeware that helps me with wmv's (as I am on a Mac and that is somewhat hard to do)
To Final Cut Pro's Compressor and even Adobe's version
Windows Media Player on my Fuze seems not to like any files over 100mb
and even though the video will look awesome on my computer after conversion, the players I use on my phone completely destroy the audio...
I've searched up and down threads like these and am at a complete loss...

qwik question
which is better to convert movies to my fuze spb video or avs video?

sorry people
um what size micro sd card on average would I need to store the videos?

get at minimum a 4GB microSDHC... under $8 if you're lucky
or a 8GB for $16... no reason to jump for that now that memory isn't that expensive

Use coreplayer bro
I bought it, and its amazing $29.95... Don't convert anything that I get. It only has trouble with on6 flv files, and devs say it'll never support codec. Shame, because flash 9 and 10 protected movies are almost all encoded with this...
A small ffmpeg utility can run one through flv to avi, keeping aspect and original source resoultion, and process a 1.5 hour flv file in about 3 minutes and give you a great quality avi output for your phone
With TCPMP I get lag when watching full movies, but Coreplayer is fine
Set video to the qtv display, high quality.
If you've got bad audio, perhaps you need to lower the pre-am if muffled, or increase if quiet
Also, you may have equaliser enabled, and not know it.
Check the options section go through pages
There definatley should not be a problem playing media with this program
Only problem now is.... I bought this... ya sweet - but now can't afford to get my raph unlocked until next month
So still without a mobile

xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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News Flash
Disney released Wall-E on DVD and Blue Ray discs. I have yet to see a cell phone with a built in DVD or Blue Ray player.
The motion picture experts group (standards body)...MPEG for short, many years ago, decided to evolve the distribution techology (for consumers), from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. MPEG-4 is a broad spec and covers everything from small hand held devices to HD quality video (H.264, VC-1 etc).
Your Touch Pro has built in hardware acceleration to handle MP4 up to a reasonable limit. Your best built in video players, as delivered by the OEM, are HTC Album and Windows Media Player. Both apps support hardware accleration for MP4 video.
I continue to read about (and have purchased) Coreplayer. In the mobile space, Coreplayer is a modest improvement over the free open source TCPMP player. CorePlayer, caused a brief stir when they half-hacked into the (modest) built in hardware acceleration on the HTC Kaiser.
On a Touch Pro, Coreplayer does support non industry standard video formats, but only in software mode (slowly rendered down sized formats). Coreplayer fails dismally, when compared to Album or WMP for MP4 playback.
So...yes, convert your content to a fully supported format. Or...leech your content in supported formats. Search this forrum and you'll find guidance, and free conversion tools.

video encoding for VOGUE/HTC Touch

I've been searching but can't find it... everything in the forum seems to have vogue as a tag...
What are the parameters / codecs to encode video to play on the vogue, either in the default player or the wm player?

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Good luck!

I have read somewhere (Sorry can't remember where) that the vogue cannot play video's very well - has something to do with the type of processor it has. Sorry I wish I could be of more help.
I have HTC Elfin and use pocket divx encoder to encode video's for playback on my device and use TCPMP to play the video's without any problem.
Hopefully the app in the link provided above works for you

The application referenced here does a pretty good job - but there are audio sync issues.
Using a similar profile in Super yields slightly lower video quality (because it is one pass encoding) and the audio is more in sync.
Are there other "less processor intensive" codecs that one should use to encode video to this device? Space is not the issue - I have an 8gb micro SD card..., I want decent quality that I can watch.

OJOsoft Tota Video Converter

nir36 said:
OJOsoft Tota Video Converter
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Does that have presets for the TOUCH ?
I have a dozen media converters installed on my PC, so would prefer not to have more if I can create a configuration to use one I already have... codecs / bitrates, etc.

Video Playback On AT&T Tilt

Is video playback on an AT&T Tilt horrible no matter what player I use or what files I play? If not can anybody help me out with a player with AVI support that doesn't run so slow. Is this even possible right now with current drivers like the classaction and omnia?

Have you tried Divx Mobile or Kinoma Freeplay?
mcjewpants said:
Is video playback on an AT&T Tilt horrible no matter what player I use or what files I play? If not can anybody help me out with a player with AVI support that doesn't run so slow. Is this even possible right now with current drivers like the classaction and omnia?
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You didn't say what hardware you had, but I use Kinoma for most of my media, and it works well, but doen't do AVI, so I dl'd Divx mobile to handle those. Both run very smooth for me.

the best for me is Smart Player.
it does work best if you reencode movie on your PC using the Smart converter
no speed probs or sound sync probs..
i have tried many but this is superior and i watch full length movies..

Well, that's because of lack of complete drivers in your device, you can find lots of information in this forum about it.
The only player I know that take advantage of video hardware acceleration for your device (QTv) is Coreplayer.

Drakh said:
Well, that's because of lack of complete drivers in your device, you can find lots of information in this forum about it.
The only player I know that take advantage of video hardware acceleration for your device (QTv) is Coreplayer.
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Tried out coreplayer and it seems to work best, alot better than DivX or WMP10, I think this is the one for me

XDA Flint Video Playback

Hi All,
My XDA Flint arrived yesterday!
I spent all evening and half the night playing with it!
I've been loading video files onto it but most of the won't play back!
I'm only using the crummy WMPlayer included!
What is the best playback software and where do I find it? Also will I need any codecs?
Thanks All
Alex

If you don't mind paying, then Coreplayer is an excellent player with most codecs built in. If cost is a problem then Coreplayers 'lighter' sibling, TCPMP is pretty good but doesn't have the same video acceleration capability.
Make sure the resolution of video files is 640*480 or less (I tend to use 75% of that and it works well- full VGA can be a little slow)

NeilM said:
If you don't mind paying, then Coreplayer is an excellent player with most codecs built in. If cost is a problem then Coreplayers 'lighter' sibling, TCPMP is pretty good but doesn't have the same video acceleration capability.
Make sure the resolution of video files is 640*480 or less (I tend to use 75% of that and it works well- full VGA can be a little slow)
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I Now have Coreplayer 1.3.2
I'm having real trouble with playback on some video files! - Audio is fine but the video is playing back at less than 1FPS!!!
Do you know the limitations of the device?
Thanks
Alex

It may depend on a number of factors- settings in Coreplayer, video file type, and video file resolution.
Look at This Thread for some more info. It also a link to a topic about an open source video file transcoder.
Did you video files play in any previous WM devices, or are they PC based files- if the latter then they will certainly need transcoding to a lower resolution. The X7510 processor (and the general WM infrastructure) is simply too slow to play videos at the same resolution as a desktop PC

I payed for coreplayer but never could make it work on my x7510, but a special version of TCPMP for wm 6.1 worked just fine.

Thanks for the advice!
I have found the settings in coreplayer and have fiddled with them and now have virtually perfect playback now!

Excellent

Playing Movies on x7510

Has anyone been able to play movies on their x7510? I'm having problems finding the best Audio and Video parameters that run smoothly on my x7510. The media converters that I've used haven't been able to convert a dvd movie to a useable format. The video is always too choppy and out of synce with the audio. Can anyone help?

Use Coreplayer for your 7510.
It's a really good program for playing video on Handheld Devices

Thanks for your respones. I have coreplayer v 1.3.6 build 7427 but this too performs poorly. I'm not sure what Audio and Video parameters the movie file has to be in to play smoothly. Do you known what your movie file parameters are set?

The best way to have a great quilty and also smooth playing is converting your video with "Xilisoft Video Converter".
It has a lot of good default option for converting your video for your PPC.

If you play the sound through bluetooth, it doesn't get out of sync. Also try 300ms Thats the best setting i think.

Ok, I give these two options a try. I'm downloading Xilisoft Video Converter now. I'll let you know how it works.
Thanks both of you.

I tried Xilisoft, but am not sure which setting to choose. I think Sompy Media Encoder is also pretty good, it has a setting specifically for WM PPC's

nubianrain said:
Has anyone been able to play movies on their x7510? I'm having problems finding the best Audio and Video parameters that run smoothly on my x7510. The media converters that I've used haven't been able to convert a dvd movie to a useable format. The video is always too choppy and out of synce with the audio. Can anyone help?
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