After a bit of investigation I have come to the conclusion that the smartphone version of WM5 does not supports browsing windows networks. The main reason for this as far as I can see is the non inclusion of the libraries-
redir.dll
netbios.dll
in the smartphone rom. It is these dll's that implement SMB/CIFS.
Why MS have not included these dll's is beyond me as nearly all WM5 smartphones have wifi and all smartphones can create VPN connections.
Is this just to make PPCs more attractive?
Am I right? Is network browsing not supported in WM5 smartphones? Could getting hold of the ARMVI versions of the dll's be of any help.
Any help greatly appreciated
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I have a HTC Wizard and I love the fact that I can extract and rebuild ROM's really easily. However since there is no native Windows Mobile 6 release for it I think it's limits have been reached with two key components - namely the integrated VoIP client and L2TP/IPSec VPN. I have had both of these working but neither with any consistency and it appears it is a lack of driver support on the Wizards side.
The 'leaked' M$ internal testing of WM6 (5.2.318) was the only 'real' version and since then WM6 has progressed quite a lot, but we are still stuck with the original drivers from this release and there are compatibility issues.... HTC isn't going to update any drivers so I think the Wizard is going to have to get replaced by something newer. I would still like the flexibility of building my own ROMs though - I remember having a HP iPAQ 6365 and there was absolutely no way this was possible with this.
What are my best options? It MUST have 802.11G WiFi, stable VoIP & L2TP/IPSec and the ability to create my own ROMs. It must also have a touchscreen (so no smartphones), pull-out keyboard, camera and I would like it to be smaller than the Wizard.
Any ideas?
Andy
hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.
With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.
understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?
You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.
As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .
yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.
There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.
well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
SPB Mobile Shell
Hey mate,
I have a TG01 and I am using SPB Mobile shell, its a shell on top on top of the OS, its about $30 but its head a shoulders above the crappy GUI's that come installed.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
HTH
ninja
razerbug said:
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
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"That Bugger" used itje's Blackstone cab to get it on the phone. It says so in the video's comments.
To save you the trouble, you might want to click this link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
The TG01 will get an official WM6.5 upgrade.
I think the WM6.5 interface is pretty good, even without TouchFlo. So my advice is to just wait for the official WM6.5 upgrade, disable all of Toshiba's interface extensions and enable WM6.5 default home plugin (Titanium).
You can also try alternative interfaces like SPB Mobile Shell, Throttle Launcher, PoinUI etc. and alternative programs like Kinoma Play, Resco Photo Viewer etc.
Hi all, thanks for the advice, in the end I found PointUI and in turn PointSense which near perfectly reproduces the touchflo interface.
but I agree the winmo6.5 will really improve the phone, I belive toshiba planned to release it with 6.5 but MS's stalling meant that didn't happen.
Cheers again.
[email protected],
I found at zack-zack.eu a device for windows CE users ...
(http://www.zack-zack.eu/html/detail/zackzack.html?itemId=2782)
I think it's can be very useful (because of the low price!) but I don't know if I can install other programs like Pocket Informant, OperaMobile Browser...
Can anybody help me?
Best Regards SavageDeath
I have one and like the size and weight but performance is lacking in terms of web speed; the 128m ram size limits its usfullness to only the simplest pages. Additionally it doesn't run all Pocket PC or WinCE programs. Lastly the physical keyboard has stopped working. Can still use the on-screen keyboard and usb port; but no clue as to what happen. IDon't think its a software problem. Plan to take it apart soon to see if there is a loose connection.
those netbooks are great for dos games
What's the possibility of putting WM6.5 on the MC9090? Currently it is running WM6.1 and the device has 64mb of ram and 128mb of rom.
With WM6.1 IE mobile lacks some specific javascript functionality I need. Specifically, the Onblur event does not fire for the Input Text inline elements. It works however for other input elements such as radio and button.
Using another web browser is not an option because I am required to use WaveLinks Industrial Browser which is a wrapper for IE.
I need to fix the problem with the IE Onblur event or upgrade the device to WM6.5.
Any suggestions?
Someone would have to make a 6.5 rom, since Motorola isn't.
I don't think the demand for this is high, and drivers for WM6.5 would be hard if not impossible to find.
It's possible I guess... but not probable.