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Partly because I have damaged my Magician case slightly, and partly because I find the SPV M500 a lot more visually appealing, I'm curious whether they are actually the very same device with different casing, and if it would be possible to buy the M500 casing somewhere and pop my Jam into it.
Anyone else interested in doing this? Anyone know if it is possible?
For you who haven't seen the M500, msmobiles has a review of it.
Skip
The design certainly is a matter of personal taste. I find the standard Jam/S100 design unfinished and also prefer the Orange version, so I am keeping an eye on this thread...
Placed side by side the orange version is slightly larger than the jam, so it may not work.
rgds
jim
Unfinished is definitely the right way to express it. It looks like an engineering sample to me.
I remember reading that somebody was able to order a new casing for the Jam. If that person may please step forward and explain how this was done, it might be a way to get hold of the M500 casing.
Or maybe somebody with an orange contract can contact them in the matter?
Firstly, however, somebody would need to disassemble their M500 so that we can compare its innards with the Jam. There are guides how to disassemble these devices in this forum.
Skip
Hi LeSkip,
I also like this new look, but my problem is the accessories, have have several leather, silicone cases, and they are all made for Qtek,Imate,O2 mini, xda mini...
If you get to know where these hard cases come from, i'm sure you can ask them for a case...
I have no doubts that it is technically possible to switch the cover. We just need to replace the switches, styli and buttons too. Along with cases and such, of course, as has already been mentioned here. Not a big problem to me, but I see a few other issues, though:
1. Where to buy the M500 cover?
2. The price! It appears to me that no HTC cover has ever been cheap!
3. Once the Magician has been opened, all traces of your warranty is gone!
I think you can get the casings from your local HTC Service centres
rgds
Jim
According to the last post in this HowardForums thread they are the exakt same size.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=624198
So far so good.
Skip
Hello,
unfortunately my prophet did't like the way I fell on him and the screen crashed.. I think, that it's only the touchscreen (if I turn the prophet on, I can see all clearly).
Can someone explain me, who to replace the touchscreen (I could bye one for about 8$ at ebay)? ..Or can you give me a good adress, where I can get it fixed (in Germany..)?
Thanks for help, Dirk
Hi.
First of all, you need to buy a new Touch Screen :
http://cnn.cn/shop/dopod-818828838838pro-touch-screen-p-1292.html
After having removed the 4 screws, I advise you to use a card (e.g. credit card) to slip it along the parts to be removed. It is necessary that you pay attention to the 'Speaker buzzer' which has a very small wire.... be careful not to tear it off !
You can have a look here : http://www.bess.free.fr/qtek9100.pdf
Good Luck. I've done it you can can do it... it is difficult to weld the new screnn !!
Bap
Alright.. thank you, I hope I can do it..
Do I need all the tools? ..where can I get them from?
The LCD is one unit, isn't it? How easy is it to separate the touchscreen from it?
The Prophet is about the same?!
Greets, Dirk
HI.
1/ The Prophet is quite the same
2/ you don't need all the stuff but, you will need a plastic card and the good screw driver (T6)
I think you've broken just the LCD Touch part and not the light background thing so you will have to separate the two parts and changed the LCD Touch screen
Let me know how is it goin'. GD luck,
Bap
I cant believe ive got to not knowing which phone I have?!!
I have an O2 XDA Orbit 2.
I always thought this was the Polaris, though mine looks nothing like the one on the forum image. What I do have (as per the forum images) is an Iolite.
Is the XDA Orbit 2 a touch cruise or a touch cruise 2?
Edit: Actually my phone says its a Polaris in the Device Info. Anyone know why the case is different?
The O2 Orbit 2 is a re-cased / re-badged Polaris with a 3M pixel autofocus camera.
IMO O2 always do a good job with the redesigns for the XDA range (case in point, the Ignito has a much nicer battery cover than the Diamond and the camera seems to be better, maybe because the lens cover glass is better as well??).
It looks like HTC have taken note of the Orbit 2's nicer case for the Iolite!!
The Iolite by all accounts doesn't have an autofocus camera?? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??
I don't think the Iolite is available as an XDA Orbit so I guess you *do* have a re-cased (and better for it) Polaris.
I just bought an Orbit 2 S/H and IMO it's a better device than my crappy Ignito, although it has the same CPU with integrated GPS chip as the Ignito the antenna is obviously much better as I don't have the same GPS lag and acquisition problems as the Ignito on the Orbit 2!!
Oh, and I never got on well with TF3D so I'm glad to be back with the O2 today screen.
I'll miss the Ignito's camera tho' :'-(
Kim
Many Thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought i'd gone mad for a bit this morning!
My girlfriend has the Ignito.
We both think its awful, I much prefer my orbit 2. Her battery life is terrible, touch screen annoying, the 3d touch flo is a bit confusing and the screen started to play up in the pub last night. It seems to open programs on its own accord sometimes too.
I can vouch that the orbit 2 is well built. I left it on the bonnet of my van and went bombing down the lanes.... it flew off at about 50mph and survived with just a few scratches. Ive had it covered in paint, cement, sand and dropped it in a puddle and it still goes on like the day I bought it.
Can we get a screen shot of the O2 today screen?
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Can we get a screen shot of the O2 today screen?
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Which device do you want the today sreen from?
EDIT: Just to clarify: I went from O2 Orbit (Artemis) with WM5>O2 today plugin
to O2 Ignito (Diamond) with TF3D - The Ignito doesn't have the O2 today plugin by default so it's either TF3D or plain 'ole WM6.1
to O2 Orbit 2 (Polaris) which has WM6.1 and the O2 today plugin instead of the TF2D HTC home screen
rikpotts said:
Many Thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought i'd gone mad for a bit this morning!
I can vouch that the orbit 2 is well built. I left it on the bonnet of my van and went bombing down the lanes.... it flew off at about 50mph and survived with just a few scratches. Ive had it covered in paint, cement, sand and dropped it in a puddle and it still goes on like the day I bought it.
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ROFL: Typical self employed builder then?
Complete with posh phone and sandy pockets!
Its has to be the toughest job for a phone. The grit, water, getting crushed in pockets while lifting stuff and the temper tantrums (if you know what I mean) Thye xda orbit 2 is a workhorse!
cozzykim said:
Which device do you want the today sreen from?
EDIT: Just to clarify: I went from O2 Orbit (Artemis) with WM5>O2 today plugin
to O2 Ignito (Diamond) with TF3D - The Ignito doesn't have the O2 today plugin by default so it's either TF3D or plain 'ole WM6.1
to O2 Orbit 2 (Polaris) which has WM6.1 and the O2 today plugin instead of the TF2D HTC home screen
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The O2 Orbit 2's today screenshot would be much appreciated.
Orbit 2 with O2 today screen
Here ya go:
If anyone knowledable on anything that pertains to my problem could help me out I would be very grateful..here's the scoop..
I have had my polaris for over a year now (out of warranty) and for the longest time I've had issues with the touch screen not responding correctly and having to re-calibrate it all the time. I finally figured out what the issue was yesterday after I hard reset the device and the screen was still messed up...I had been using a dock for this device that isn't manufactured very well -- using the dock day in day out for a few months at work actually bent the pins on the USB connector on the cruise to the point where some of them were touching each other (yikes!)
So, I gave the phone to my dad who's an engineer, he took it to work and used a microscope or whatever and some tools and got the pins back straight again..now the screen works fine! Needless to say that dock is in the garbage now. The brand was "BoxWave" -- stay away from their products, they are JUNK!
Anyways -- I still have a problem with the scroll wheel.
Spinning the wheel does not work at all -- the Up, Down, and Left buttons work when pressed, and the wheel does light up, but spinning it doesn't do anything. Also the Right button doesn't work either. The button in the middle works okay. All of the working buttons cause the light to go on.
The logical conclusion here to me anyways seems to be that the bent pins caused permanent damage to the scroll wheel...I'm very glad it didn't cause perm. damage to the screen (or anything else, so I hope!!)..but anyways -- what would be the best option for me at this point?
Call HTC and have them fix it and pay out of pocket?
About how much would they charge for something like this (ballpark)?
My dad is a very skilled electrical engineer -- he would be willing to take it apart and fix it for me at work..he's got all the tools and stuff for it and doesn't mind at all...what parts should I look into ordering?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide here.
Hi,
I have a similar problem the up, left, right and turning the wheel does not work on my polaris either and I have not damaged it whatsoever. So, i do not think your button problem is because of a possible short circuit. But, sorry to tell you but I do not have a solution to the problem.
I thought I was certain, but occaisonally my screen still dies.
Perhaps it was permanently damaged? It is much better than before though -- but no matter what I do -- the wheel spinning does nothing, and the Right key does nothing at all.
Do you have any clue what part we would need to get replaced?
I am looking to replace the screen as well due to scratches.
I believe it's called a "digitizer" (the screen part not the wheel)
No, sorry. But if you do find out let me know as well.
Thank you.
found this on ebay
Hi,
Guys I found this on eBay. It says it can repair this kind of issue. Although I do not have the time to test.
So, here it is
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Cruis...ries?hash=item19b5e3f64f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
P.S. if anyone does test this please give us your feedback. Thank you
What?
Did you post the wrong link or something?
That is a SIM card.
This thread is about the scroll wheel \ DPad.
EDIT:
Nvm, I see in the auction it says its a ribbon or something.
I dunno about this one...but it's cheap.
I still have not even gotten around to repairing my screen \ usb port though...god damn money.
If i order this ill let u know.
OK so I just purchased a new charge port and digitizer, but I have yet to see ANYONE selling a replacement scroll wheel.
Alot of people are selling the "housing" but it's missing the wheel!
Anyone know where to get a replacement metal panel and wheel only, not the entire housing?
I found a jog wheel for the shadow -- wonder if it would fit?
I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).
alanazar said:
I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).
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Housing including the jog wheel and electronics?
I also ordered a usb connector and apparently they sent me one that isn't compatible with the cruise...I think I am just gonna buy a broken one and get the parts from it..they seem to be rare compared to other HTC models!
surgex0 said:
Housing including the jog wheel and electronics?
I also ordered a usb connector and apparently they sent me one that isn't compatible with the cruise...I think I am just gonna buy a broken one and get the parts from it..they seem to be rare compared to other HTC models!
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wow good luck!
Check out this link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/FULL-HOUSING-FO...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item2551ec66c6
and i also found this for you (is that what came wrong), but you have to make sure it's the 2007 Touch Cruise and see if yours is the POLA100 or POLA200:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-HTC-TO...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item5883c9282c
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Cruis...temQQptZPDA_s_Pocket_PC_s?hash=item1c0d5c098c
Hope that helps!
alanazar said:
I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).
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I had the same problem but on a 2 year warranty Touch Cruise. Phone was fixed and re-installed with WM 6.1
Know I face Bluetooth connection problems again and the BT hotfix is not accepted anymore.
I do have to say that the upgrade after re-installing should have been left behind.
I have the same problem... Scrol wheel not working en button to the right
anyone ever fixed this?
Hey Guys!
I've got the same problem with the wheel and the right button. So I was wondering if anyone fixed the problem?
I have no warranty anymore
I think I know what's your problem, mates.. It seems that it is essential for almost any P3650 - the cable, which is going from the jog wheel to the keyboard control unit tears apart just before (or exactly at) the copper pads on the molex thingie, that plugs into K/B unit (damage is so slight, that it barely can be seen).
I had no luck looking for the jog wheel sold seperately from housing, or at least with that plastic-chromed buttons cover. If anyone finds out that it is possible to obtain it seperately - I would greatly appreciate
Btw, same problem goes for sim holder's cable - I have replaced mine 2 times already (you can get 'em for around 15$ from ebay).
Sorry for my english - it's a bit rusty atm
Same problem here..wheel doesn't function can't find the part by itself ..
Touch Cruise jog wheel & keyboard
Exact same here - jog wheel scrolling broken & right selection does not work. Besides, my "call" key stucks time to time.
So for now I've just got both of them - jog wheel and keyboard (not the entire housing) from ebay, 15 & 7 $ respective
wheel ordered from the following ebay location :
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260656153778&si=1E2jM09T8qOM9DzM6uzrXo5Qiqg%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
same provider has keyboard also, for some reason it is not on eBay active items. But you can contact the seller and ask for it.
I gonna replace both in a near future, and will update about the result.
I dropped my i-mate sp5m a couple of time on the floor. Now most of the keys are not working including the joystick. I did opened the phone and found the keypad flex is broken near the push connector. I would like to replace the keypad flex with a new one to make the phone usable again.
Kindly someone help me to find the keypad flex of this i-mate sp5m in India.
thanking you in anticipation.
-th
Did the keyboard flex really break because of the drop? Usually this happens if you open the device and don't take care about this connection. If this broke because of the drop, then your housing would be so damaged that replacing the keypad will not be the only thing to do...
Finding a replacement keypad may actually be harder than finding a new (used) device. Try your luck at ebay if this is useful in India. Mind that you can transplant the board in any Tornado or even Hurricane housing with a working keyboard. So if you find one of these which is damaged otherwise (e.g broken screen) you can recycle the parts you need.
You are quite right, it is not just dropping, it is mix up with careless opening. I did took the handset to an unauthorized service center on first few problems and I think that makes problem worsen.
Now my only solution is soldering those very tiny connections or changing the whole keypad flex.. and later is better. But where could I find one is the problem.
I think you cannot solder them as the flex-cable has copper-print on both sides. Just count the contacts and the print lines.