In this thread, Allanmb noticed that the Exec camera has a setting for 2MP. The pictures look damn good too!
Has anybody else noticed this apart from Splatt and myself?
Allan
it's a software enhanced resolution. it's 1.3 native.
Any 2i owner will be blown away by the difference in quality on what is supposedly the same camera...especially in super fine mode.
It's definately a 1.3, but it's the first time since the XDA2 (which compared to the XDA was better as it actually HAD a camera) where I felt a new XDA is an improvement imaging-wise.
Ant
hi there..
just recently, i decided to flash my wizard, which was running NBD 8.3 for 4 months, with a few newer ROMS then now i settled to th_undead's MFR2.0 ROM.. i did so because i feel that my previous ROM is a lot slower than new roms and the free memory in the new roms are bigger..
anyway.. in this rom (and the other ones i tried - Jaguar 4.0), i am having camera problems.. it's not that it's not functioning, it just doesn't look right..
because of this, i tried old patches to make it shoot better..
i tried to apply the ov9650 camera patch that makes the camera's white balance and light recognition better.. but it seems not to work..
after installing patch, i am no longer able to launch the camera.. it just goes loading the camera (with rotating pie and Camera showing at the TopBar), then quits back to the today screen..
when i was using a WM5 ROM, i can use the said patch patch and obtained good quality pics.. when i switched to NBD ROMS (my first and only WM6 ROM series that i stuck to), the camera impressed me because it takes good quality pictures (especially in low low light conditions) even without the patch.. i thought that was supposed to be how the WM6 camera operates..
BUT..
no offence, the camera quality in this ROM, or other new wm6 roms i tried before settling (like Jaguar 4.0 and TNT) is poor compared to my prvious ROM, NBD 8.3.. especially in low light situations..
is there a wm6 patch to fix this?
here are sample pictures.. the first ones are taken with my previous rom (NBD8.3) and the next ones are taken just today, under same lighting conditions, in the same angling, same spot as where the first shots were taken (these are all within the house so it is easy to recreate the shots, and without sunlight ambience - just pure incandescent bulbs).. notice how dark the new pictures are..
click the thumbnails for the original pictures
please mind that those are the original unaltered pictures taken from my wizard, using two different roms.. i just want to point out the difference in quality (white/light balance)
also, i use the same settings (in the camera.. contrast, brightness, flicker frequency=50Hz, quality, etc) but notice that the pictures taken from the NBD 8.3 rom is larger (file size) by almost double.. i checked the camera versions used by both roms and it is the same build.. maybe some other factors affect different performance?
tough some may say that the old pictures look bad because the colors are ashed up, but i think the first pictures (from NBD 8.3) looks grainy and blurred because it compensated for the lack of lighting (like in a night shot mode).. even though, a washed up bright picture is still better than a sharper almost black picture..
can anyone help? i really miss the camera quality of my previous rom.. maybe some can use the settings or whatever that there is in NBD 8.3 that made the camera quality better and port it into these newer roms..
i am not promoting NBD or Zoki, nor rebuking other cooks for their work.. i am just wondering what is special in NBD's camera that makes it shoot better pictures?
yes... ive also seen this happen very often. Even when you use cool camera you will note that the picture quality is very diferente. Perhaps of the camera drivers that are loaded in different ROMS.
I was tired of WM6 and went back to my carrier's WM5 ROM surprisingly the picture quality was overall better than with any WM6 ROM.
I've been using the AKU 3.3 ROM and the pic quality if far higher than the WM6 versions I've used. This most likely depends on the driver in the OEMdrivers folder if you are cooking. Change that out and run G'reloc before you cook, and you will probably get better quality. I'd try it, but my device is being used so much now, I don't have the inclination to start cooking and flashing until the summer.
Hi this is my first post i'm following with great interest the forum and i've got a problem i've not seen in the forum but to me is the worst at all.
Horrible image quality in photo with artifacts in compression:
i've sent a complain to HTC and i'll see if any answer...
here is what i've sent:
Hi,I'm complaining for many bugs and poor perfomance of my new p3650 touch cruise
here are only the most urgent:
1st) the photo quality is terrible I can attach a sample image if you want, I've set to maximum resolution 3mp and superfine and even in full day light I get jerky - full of artifacts images and compared to my motorola v3x only 2mp of two years ago is like to get back to the stone age. Please release a better driver or compressor.
2nd) the video is jerky an poor quality also when i play a video also in corrected format native pda resolution this is played jumping and slow framerate.
3D) the contacts section always shows both sim and outlook records so I get always double contacts the phone is terrible to use in this way also I tried a workaround with filtering but this is not memorized so i have to set every time :this is horrible and a phone must have this tool working if you compare to old years ago phones or pda you'll get in comparison a thousand lightyear better use.
Please above all solve the video section for terrible quality.
I think you must not ignore my asking.
As you see i'm also concerned with more question but the image prob. is too big ....
thanks
Attached two shots from motorola V3x only 2MP and Htc polaris you can vomit if you want............
please - cannot upload for the images max size is 100k and if i downsample the image the artifacts are not the same ...... i'm looking for a upload site-url
Can we see the images?
as long as the content is not obscene
The photo quality on my Orbit 2 (Polaris) is actually one of the best I've ever seen.
If no flash is needed it can compete with Sony Ericsson devices easily.
Did you
- disable the shutter sound?
- enable taking the photo by "half press" of the key? If not, take care that you don't move at all because fully pressing the key without moving is quite difficult
please w8
imageslink
please see them at fullres or at 200% expecially at the sky or greens ....
htc image-A http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=htcpolarisimageaxq3.jpg
v3x image-A http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v3ximageamo0.jpg
htc image-B http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=htcpolarisimagebdy7.jpg (see that funny moirè and small blocks......... + jpeg artifacts at superfine ... or super****???)
V3X image-B http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v3ximagebuj3.jpg
maati said:
The photo quality on my Orbit 2 (Polaris) is actually one of the best I've ever seen.
If no flash is needed it can compete with Sony Ericsson devices easily.
Did you
- disable the shutter sound?
- enable taking the photo by "half press" of the key? If not, take care that you don't move at all because fully pressing the key without moving is quite difficult
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i'm not a novice and first to post i've done already what you say ... btw maybe your comparison is with a vga phone......
i'm directly comparing photo with an old motorola V3X that is only 2MP ..... and see attachements you can easily see what is better ....
also see the photo you shot on pc .... then starting shout......
or maybe my polaris is defective ??????????
this may be a better thing.... for you all of course ... hope this is not defective and is only a matter of driver/compression
I have many phone pda and this is the worse camera i've ever seen .......
thanks .
First of all, don't expect High Quality in every field by an 'All-In-One' device like the Polaris.
There were several photos taken in reviews all around the world, so don't curse the Polaris because you don't like the quality of the photos taken. You had the option to see some sample photos before you bought it.
If the quality of your pictures differ from the sample ones (in the reviews), and is much worse, maybe you don't know everything about taking photos.
Maybe you could reduce the sharpness a little bit...
Also, the V3x uses software blur for removing the artifacts.
I am comparing to 3Mpx Sony Ericsson phones like the K800i which are the best camera-phones on the market.
My XDA Orbit 2 takes photos that are competitive to those taken with SE phones as long as they're not done in dark environment (because SE phones have flashlight).
So, if you really did the optimizations and if your photos are really that bad you probably got a defective device.
EDIT: OK, now i looked at your sample shots and now I understand what you're talking about. Yes, the moiré is there and it is there on every Polaris device. But: IMHO the Polaris photos are still way better than the Motorola ones, because they include much more detail, which is in every case more important than not seeing this moiré/grainy effect. Why? Because you can get rid of these effects with photoshop (or probably some free programs, too) easily but you cannot get the details the Motorola photos are missing with any program.
As I always edit the important photos afterwards with PS, I didn't think that you would have problems with these effects (I also noticed them of cousre, but they are no problem for me, at least less of a problem than bad light/color/details).
Like gnick666 said before, try reducing sharpness if you don't want to optimize the photos on your PC.
saisallo said:
i'm not a novice and first to post i've done already what you say ... btw maybe your comparison is with a vga phone......
i'm directly comparing photo with an old motorola V3X that is only 2MP ..... and see attachements you can easily see what is better ....
also see the photo you shot on pc .... then starting shout......
or maybe my polaris is defective ??????????
this may be a better thing.... for you all of course ... hope this is not defective and is only a matter of driver/compression
I have many phone pda and this is the worse camera i've ever seen .......
thanks .
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May be your htc is defective.
My Cruise make photos really better ( almost my old phone nokia N73 with 3mpx and Karl Zeiss lens).
Sorry for you.
xdamiki said:
May be your htc is defective.
My Cruise make photos really better ( almost my old phone nokia N73 with 3mpx and Karl Zeiss lens).
Sorry for you.
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have seen them on pc???
well : all you that are saying to get these good shots, please let me see these shots and post them please to compare them
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First of all, don't expect High Quality in every field by an 'All-In-One' device like the Polaris.
There were several photos taken in reviews all around the world, so don't curse the Polaris because you don't like the quality of the photos taken. You had the option to see some sample photos before you bought it.
If the quality of your pictures differ from the sample ones (in the reviews), and is much worse, maybe you don't know everything about taking photos.
Maybe you could reduce the sharpness a little bit...
Also, the V3x uses software blur for removing the artifacts.
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this device is not an all in **** one this cost 600 euros !! so i don't expect a canon digital ixus quality but at last some better or equal than a much older phone like the v3x ..... also i've seen shots from other users but not as this bad .... i'd like to see your shots (without editing please....)
Yes, i know it costs 600 EUR, I bought it for 620... But still, it's an 'all-in-one' device, like it or not.
I had hell of a time polishing the pics taken with my V3x, but - as mentioned before - the Polaris, takes pictures whith more detail.
Heres mine.
original: http://blacksun.extra.hu/myfiles/image_060.jpg
edited: http://blacksun.extra.hu/myfiles/image_060_edited.jpg
The first one was taken, whith default settings. Check the EXIF data, for proof of date/source, also img includes clock.
The editing has been done whith Irfan View, Blur Filter 3 times.
I'm not an expert, infact I'm a n00b on this, but 1 thing's for sure, not always the most sensitive setting is the best.
Hi Saisallo, you just expend your time discussing here with some HTC extreme freaks about this theme, for some weeks ago when i got my Orbit 2 (HTC Cruise) i wrote i post complaining about the bad quality of the phone, not only the camera but also the sound and some others things and the people just say that they don't have any problem, that they were satisfied with theirs devices and more. Sometimes I think that they didn't have a good product in their hands before. After all the HTC Cruise costs about 530 €, almost the price for a standard notebook.
My last complain about this phone.....!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365676
I just recommend the people to don't buy this phone. Orbit 2 / HTC Cruise are the last crap from HTC
qtek_metanol said:
I just recommend the people to don't buy this phone. Orbit 2 / HTC Cruise are the last crap from HTC
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+1
My old Artemis is much better....
Guys, don't make the same error as me and some others!!!!!!
Cheers,
ouioui01
qtek_metanol said:
Hi Saisallo, you just expend your time discussing here with some HTC extreme freaks...
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We're not freaks
We just have other methods and oppinions about things. Yeah, we're f*cked because of the driver problem, but that doesn't change the fact that 95% of failiures are caused by the user or in much less percentage software error not caused my the user but the programmer, be it PC, or PDA.
Maybe in 2-3 years these 'all-in-one' devices will compete whith dedicated ones, but that's still in the future, and not now. Learn to compromise, i.e.: post editing photos, optimizng mp3/videos, and so on.
If you can't reproduce the proven quality in some functions, that's your own personal probelm: 1. you expect too much from current technology, 2. you don't know how to do it.
Peoples oppinios differ, just because of that calling others freaks is a bit too arrogant. This forum is for exchanging these oppinions, in cultured, non-offending way.
i've seen your photos and are crappish like mine perhaps they don't have moire effects .... but definitively mediocre quality i must say and so also mine is not defective now i know.
also i'm getting conviced my money was wasted and that i had to w8 more time before buy it ..... and see how much complain there are around ...
now i know that i must w8 for un upgrade of the firmware or software ... but seems that htc support is only for their bank account ........
will follow the forum but i feel stolen by htc.
bye
saisallo said:
will follow the forum but i feel stolen by htc.
bye
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Windows Mobile device have traditionally had mediocre camera at best. If you wanted a dynamic camera on a mobile device, you should consider a Nokia N95.
My first post here, so proud When I was shopping for groceries (eerie isn't it?) I decided to take a photo. I didn't stand still for long, just a normal photo. Turned out to be quite nice. This is a 2M photo, not 3M.
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JNGold said:
Windows Mobile device have traditionally had mediocre camera at best. If you wanted a dynamic camera on a mobile device, you should consider a Nokia N95.
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yes n95 is much better for photo but you must pay for navigate ..........
accc....
Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
joeyjoejoe206 said:
Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
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A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
AlexCode said:
A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
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It would be great... Camera performance is the main issue of the device. On the other hand, all the other features are quite well
Sorry to put this query here. Even i haven't got any place to right it down. I also have a same problem. Rear camera not working. Bought this phone specially for camera specifications. When will be the updates release to make the second rear camera work. Even 8 MP Nokia camera takes better picture than this 16 MP. And there are many bugs. Many apps crashes. And on YouTube I have seen many videos which shows many camera app showing 4k video recording option, but I think that was after update and I still haven't received it.i show that video 1 month back.
New update from company has improved the camera lil bit. But still not a usable one. And it keeps on hunting for focus in video.
From morning all Google apps are getting closed by itself. Please help to solve the issue in mix 2
no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
joeyjoejoe206 said:
no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
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+1 about camera perfrmance, i bought it to do a review and the camera is the worst thing in an otherwise decent phone. I did a comparison with the honor 7x, which has a much better camera at the same price.
Hdr+
Hallo guys, there isn't a procedure to flash Google camera hdr+ on this smartphone o mediatek CPU. I founded everything for Qualcomm but nothing to mediatek.