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Low free storange space - Need advice please

Hello,
my Smartphone (Qtek 8300) keeps prompting me:
Alert
Your phone is running low on free storage space. Delete old or unused items to create more space.
In Resco Explorer "Storage" is shown at 97%.
May I assume that the reason for this is mainly that too many applications (I have installed a lot of them) kept installing files in folder "Application Data" ?
If so:
What can I do in order to prevent programs from writing to this folder ?
(Remark: I have installed all my application on the storage card. But even though many of them write onto ApplicationData folder.)
Can I appy some settings in the registry changing this folder to \Storage Card\Application Data ?
Would that be safe to apply or will I risk to lose data or functionality ?
What is the best recommendation ?
How can I find a solution to this problem ?
Asking for advice, please !!!

[solved] Why do certain Application not install on Storage Card?

i had a problem with available storage being very low.
i installed all applications to the storage card. but now, checking because of the low storage, i see that
- acrobate reader
- google maps
do install on the device. but i choose to install to the storage card...
why is this and what can i do against it?

Google maps cache is stored in your main memory, clear it

@karhoe, thanks for your reply
there is an application called MobileAppMover (http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm) which allows to change all registry entries of a certain application to be changed to another path.
so if you want google maps or adobe reader to be installed on the storage card and free some mb of device storage, follow this procedure:
install application to device
use MobileAppMover to change path (e.g. from \Program Files to \Storage Card\Program Files)
move directory \Program Files\your application to \Storage Card\Program Files\ using Total Commander
edit the *.lnk file in the \Windows\Start Menu with Total Commander
done
it worked for me with google maps (only the cache stays on the device, this can be cleared using google maps options) and adobe reader!
now my device rocks again with over 6mb available storage, before it was less than 1mb!
btw: there used to be tools linke cabinstl and cab installer, but since wm5 the don't work anymore!

does this work with the Windows Live Messenger on WM6 ( Tornado ) ?

Cr4cK_M45t3R_Fl45H said:
does this work with the Windows Live Messenger on WM6 ( Tornado ) ?
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Why dont you try and let us know

Installing to Storage Card, Device getting full!

I always install to my storage card but it seems that no matter what i do, my device memory keeps filling up! I ran critically low to 785 KB on a HTC Kaiser. i noticed that the programs put things in /Program Files on my device and on /Storage Card/Program Files
Questions!
In the memory app located in settings it says under the main tab that there is "Storage" and "Program". My "Storage" keeps getting full while my "program" has 39.31 MB free. What is the difference?
Can I simply place all the /program files folders over to my /storage card/program files folder and fix shortcuts or does the programs require to take space on my device itself?
I have NO pictures or videos saved on my device, only storage card, and save all attachments/etc to my storage card aswell. I have reflashed and ran memmaid and no use...

I have tried copying the program files folder over to my storage card. Have 40MB free now but all sorts of broken shortcuts. I have turned off "Shortcut To" in windows via a registry key but when I create shortcuts on the device the pesky "Shortcut to" is still showing. I have decided to flash to the lastest rom and let SAMACHI handle my cab installs...

Other Ideas:
Emails:
I sync my Hermes with a huge Outlook personal folder with lots of emails, tasks and notes. By default, email "bodies" are stored as binary files (*.mpb) in the \Windows\Messaging folder (may vary?). This folder can grow in size up to 10 - 15 MB depending on the number of emails. So in my case it wasn't enough to move the attachments to the Storage Card, I also had to move the emails "bodies" to the Storage Card. You can do this by moving the folder to the Storage Card AND changing the registry as explained in the WIKI (Change the location of email and attachments) to point the new folder location. BUT PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP OF EMAILS AND ATTACHMENTS IF YOU ATTEMPT THIS. Windows stores email headers separate from email "bodies" so if you move the "bodies" and the registry points to the wrong location, you might get empty emails and loose all data permanently if you sync. BE CAREFUL...​Opera 9.5:
If you use Opera 9.5, you will loose another 10 - 12 MB in the \Application Data\Opera9 folder (may vary depending on opera version). In that case is better to run Opera from the Storage Card and tweak it so that its cache is also in the card.​Themes:
Some custom made themes are in the 100 - 500 KB range and if you have many themes in the \Windows folder it can take a couple of megs of storage space. I moved all my themes to the card and keep only the one I use in the \Windows folder.​

You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it. In case you are not familiar, Ramdisk is a feature that basically uses Program memory as storage memory. It is similar to wm2003 and earlier, with the difference that you cannot manually allocate it. It has to be a hex edit in the rom itself. Now, regarding your question... program memory refers to the ram that is allocated for program use (as its name specifies). Basically, the more programs you have running, the lower this number gets. This is the memory resource of your device. Storage memory acts as your "hard drive", where you will place all your stuff (installation programs, pics, etc) provided that you do not send it to your storage card.
A lot of programs will install to device memory whether you instruct them to go in memory or not. Now, it should be perfectly possible to put the programs in the card as long as you rework the shortcuts...
I don't know which GPS program you are using (if any). But if you are, make sure that it is not downloading data into your device directly (things like maps, POIs, etc).
Try the first part of my post though. That might help you some.
Good luck!

egzthunder1 said:
You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it........
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I wouldn't recommend doing so though, you want all the ram you can get.... less ram equals less speed. If you have other space (such as your storage card) then use that.
I reccomend one of garmins rom, they usually come loaded with extra space (dk4 comes with like 110mb)
Certain programs have to be installed to the main memory, but if you install to the storage card.... you should only lose a couple kb to shortcuts and such...... something isn't adding up.
PS: The difference between storage and program:
Storage= Hard drive memory
Program= RAM memory
PSS: There is a program called clear temp you may want to try, it gets rid of alot of you temp files for you.

After flashing my device and reinstalling everything to the storage card, I have came to the conclusion that some programs install to the device anyway even if you select Install to Storage Card. I went from 110MB free down to 78mb, all in the program files folder! Time to be moving these and fixing shortcuts!

Phone Storage

Why is it when i install any program on memory card it goes to the main storage. Anyone has notice that on the HD2, is there a solution for this. Need your help please

buddaking said:
Why is it when i install any program on memory card it goes to the main storage. Anyone has notice that on the HD2, is there a solution for this. Need your help please
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i guess that when you install something on storage card some files like shortcut and registry files are sent in phone storage

mishufac said:
i guess that when you install something on storage card some files like shortcut and registry files are sent in phone storage
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ok....thanks for that info. so unfortunate there is no solution for this.

Errm what.
Hey Budda could you explain what you mean a little more here mate? i.e. how do you know that the application is being installed to the main memory rather than your SD card. Are you checking in 'my device\program files' in explorer (first to see that its in main memory) and then 'my device\storage card\program files' to see if it's on the SD?
Just so that you are aware in order to be able to see shortcuts in either the start menu or sense that shortcut MUST be in main memory in the 'my device\windows\start menu\programs' folder or you wont be able to launch the app easily. - These files are tiny, between 24 - 54 bytes, so very little impact on main memory. To put it in perspective you would need ~18000 of them to take up just 1MB!
The registry also lives in main memory although in all reality doesn't take up much space adding the odd key here and there. (again the odd few bytes)
Some applications NEED to install some files to 'my device\windows' in order to function correctly, again this is not something which can be stopped.
BTW - Any app I install to my storage card does in fact go there (with the exception of parts of the programs I have mentioned above) So in answer to your original question, no I don't see the problem at all.

Prime_Directive said:
Hey Budda could you explain what you mean a little more here mate? i.e. how do you know that the application is being installed to the main memory rather than your SD card. Are you checking in 'my device\program files' in explorer (first to see that its in main memory) and then 'my device\storage card\program files' to see if it's on the SD?
Just so that you are aware in order to be able to see shortcuts in either the start menu or sense that shortcut MUST be in main memory in the 'my device\windows\start menu\programs' folder or you wont be able to launch the app easily. - These files are tiny, between 24 - 54 bytes, so very little impact on main memory. To put it in perspective you would need ~18000 of them to take up just 1MB!
The registry also lives in main memory although in all reality doesn't take up much space adding the odd key here and there. (again the odd few bytes)
Some applications NEED to install some files to 'my device\windows' in order to function correctly, again this is not something which can be stopped.
BTW - Any app I install to my storage card does in fact go there (with the exception of parts of the programs I have mentioned above) So in answer to your original question, no I don't see the problem at all.
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Well that was a bit brutal...
Actually I kind of know what he's saying.. I've found with a few (eg. Experiment 13) they over ride and install to the handset memory anyway. I thought it might be down to it needing the extra speed, might be wrong. I do agree in a whole tho, most apps do install bits 'n' bobs on the handset but hardly worth worrying about (from a storage point of view anyway)

Storage pb for HTC Chacha

Good Evening Everyone !
You may have already seen this subject many times but I really need help as I can't find a way to fix my very particular situation.
Actually, HTC Chacha is a very particular smarthpone as it contains only 150 Mo Internal (/data).
I have also a 2gb sdcard which is composed of 1,3Gb truly external (for photos and my documents, this partition comes unavailable when I plug my smartphone to my computer for instance) and the other part is sdext2 which remains mounted inside the smartphone at any time.
Even though internal storage is reduced, I managed to set-up many application thanks to Linked2SD which helps me move apk and dex toward my 2nd partition (sdext2). However, as you must know, an app is composed of apk, dex and data. This last part is still stored in the internal memory (150 mo) (Link2SD does'nt link the data of the application but only the application itself).
How can I move those data to my external sdcard ?
Second question, is it possible to do this with data from the application contacts (in this particular case, data = my contacts database) which apk and dex haven't been linked by Link2SD. I would like to "get rid" of my contacts because 30 Mo of database makes my smartphone run out of internal storage (you can laugh, but the OS (Sense) doens't like this at all !!!).
I thought about FolderMount to move data stored in data/data to a folder on my sdcard but I don't how to do ?
Do I need first to move manually the data of the application (stored in /data/data) to my sdcard and then create a link ?
The source will be the folder in sdcard that I've just moved and the destination would be its former location ?
I hope I have been clear. Ask me if I haven't.
Thank you so much for you help !