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Ok guys, so WM6 on Tornado exists (currently running on my device as we speak). But there are quite a few things we need to sort out before it can be released 'En Masse' Before this time I will ignore ALL PMs asking for the ROM.
There is a WM6 comments/suggestion/speculation thread HERE. Feel free to put in requests for embedded apps etc, but please realise we won't be able to put in EVERYTHING. So when the ROM is at a more completed stage we will draw up a shortlist for the apps etc to be embedded and let you vote it out
Current Issues:
Still has identifying build numbers etc to my source
Doesn't sync at all with a PC but will sync over exchange
It says WM5 with MSFP when its really WM6 (OS 5.2.xxx)
No Camera
No MMS
Issues fixed:
Wifi not accessable - new comm manager
No Office (fixed with a cab)
No t9 - updated to xT9 with 14 languages (fixed with a cab)
WLM is still beta and so needs removing and then updating (fixed with WLM RTM cab)
Things we need from a Tornado WM5 ROM
Camera.exe with all the mui extensions
Lets keep this thread clean, ok? I don't want sh!t loads of n00bs saying "where can I download ROM?". So, before you ask, here's my answer. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED!!!!
If a mod could remove such posts i'd be forever grateful
Please only post if you have information regarding how to fix the issues I've outlined above.
Phil
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ .. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
T9 now fixed, office added, WLM fixed
Phil
@sp3dev, unfortunatley i dont have ICQ, do you have an MSN email address?
Phil
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
you can fix activesync by replacing the usbfn.dll file.
sp3dev said:
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ - 336030424.. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
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Alex would you please tell me the new address of ronswens forum?
as usual, ronswens.jconserv.net. as for active sync, i remember those early builds missed actsync.dll.. but better give me the rom, i will use build 17xxx from excalibur and drivers, camera, t9 etc from wm5
Dishe said:
I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
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Exactly, since day 1 I've been working with duke_stix to help get a working version of crossbow. However now that I've made some progress and actually HAVE a device myself to test on, I felt it was nessary to start a new thread dedicated to it rather than the old dump rom thread
@faria, will try this later, thanks for the advice
Phil
More info on the missing USB sync... under connections, 'USB isnt listed.
Idea's?
Phil
Camera Software
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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seriously sandman,you are not helping!!! am sorry for ranting but like what the thread starter said NO NOOB posting!!! sheesh man!!! they are not "tweaking for performance" for crying out loud!!! they are cooking a wm6 rom!!!
How about we get the ROM fully functional BEFORE we start tweaking it
Phil
samyboy said:
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
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Thanks alot for that samyboy
Looks like were getting there with regards to functionality
Also does anybody have the Arcsoft MMS client? I've been searching for a while now but no dice. Also could do with the default windows task manager as well.
Phil
Stuff
Maybe you can find some useful stuff here:
http://218.93.115.138/d900/
You can have the WIFI option appear on its current Comm Manager thru Registry.. i have tried it and it worked.. but anyway, glad the new Comm Manager worked also..
The new comm manager also has flight mode, beam and IP Phone buttons on it
Phil
I don't know if we have the same build or version jm012a9749 but the following bugs are present on mine..
"BETA" text on the homescreen
FIX:
HKLM - Software - Miscrosoft - Shell
DELETE - "DeviceBETA" key
You can't open the Sound in Settings (Settings - Sounds)
Culprit could be the file soundsgsm.cpl.xml on /windows/ directory
I just got my new Tornado again awhile ago, and hoping that i could help this team in any way..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=310380
Good afternoon gang,
I have a few questions about TouchFLO.
I have a HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125). I have only flashed it once for the latest Cingular update. It is an unlocked device. I use it on the Rogers GSM network here in Canada.
Anyhow. I am curious about trying out the TouchFLO but I am not too sure if I want to flash my device just yet.
Is it possible to install any of the TouchFLO capabilities into the ARM Device Emulator?
I develop Windows Mobile applications as a day job but I've never had to deal with ROMs as we setup our apps to run on default factory devices.
We use Device Emulator heavily in our development however I have not seen a way to emulate flashing one.
The emulator boots .bin files.
Also addition questions.
Does the HTC Wizard require WM6 to run TouchFLO? I am pretty happy with my device right now and I see lots of forum posts about many SMS and call/radio issues with WM6 ROMS etc so all of these issues doesn't make it look like its a simple flash & works great kind of situation.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated
Thanks and take care.
Hey. I use and unlocked cingular 8125 with rogers. My phone is a G4 CID locked device. I have the latest rom by ovtaivoi which is a WM6 professional with touchflo software in it. i use the faria 2.69 radio rom and i have had no problems with sms or calls so far. i really love the touchflo software and its pretty sweet. as for your questions, I am not sure what you are talking about the emulator program, honestly. is it something you use on the computer to emulate and see how wm6 would look like? all the upgrade packages come with a .nbf file which is the main data file. if you are able to unpack it and repack it to a .bin file, you may be able to do what you want, but dont quote me on this as i'm still not sure as to what exactly you wanted to do. As far as if touch flow will work only on WM6, I cant say much about that either as i have only used it WM6. WM6 has a better graphics base when compared to WM5 and so i think touch flow would work better with WM6 but I don't think its limited to it.
What I would suggest is to flash the phone with the latest rom. Trust me, its worth it. All the work and skill that the developers have put into these roms really show itself in these roms. Make sure you read enough in this forum before you flash though. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Good luck.
Thanks for the reply!
I learned a lot about my device going through that procedure. It was SIM unlocked but not CID unlocked.
I went through everything and now have WM6 installed using the latest NBD ROM however I am finding the TouchFLO driver buggy. I cannot use my finger to press the "x" icon any more. Sometimes I press it and the start menu appears. Something is up with this touch driver in that release I think.
Also TouchFLO scrolling gestures don't work very reliable and it scrolls way too much.
Is this the case with all TouchFLO ROMs or is each ROM modifying touch capabilities and perhaps one ROM works better than the next?
Also is there a version of the HTC Home with that digital clock with a font about half the size so I can have a few more today screen plugins visible? I like it however its a bit too large.
Thanks and take care.
hi pls let me know the link to download it.
mail me at [email protected]
Alright I've been reading and watching and asking for months now and if you've been reading anything i've posted you'll now realize that i'm a brave, dumb SOB!
So here goes:deep breath::, dont worry used listerine)
I would like to build my own ROM off of the Touch design and need some help. I've searched for the kitchen but only found(and downloaded) Faria's kitchen.
So anyone out there, i am looking for:
(1) A kitchen (preferabley one not too advanced for a noob but set so i'll learn from it)
(2) a rom dump containing the Touch basics for wizard
(3) and this might be the life saver... a tutorial. however limited or vague, just enough to get me pointed in the direction to a working rom.
(4) then finally input and comments(both helpful and hurting accepted) cause i'm not too proud to be told when i might be doing ReTaRdeD things.
I know I may bee passign my place in atemping this but that never stopped any of you.
ok got started on the research. got an ap called "htcrt" HTC rom tool... but it doesn't have the Wizard listed as a device. So is this what i need and if so wat do i use for the wizard similie?
you can use htc rom tool if you want. Im writing up a list of tools you might like to use. Give me a few mins then check your pm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309549&highlight=core+kitchen
This is the Core Pro kitchen - best I;ve ever used - it takes any ROM so you don't have to worry about whether or no the base ROM you want comes in packages!
Many Thanks
Thanks to noeonkoala and peter for the info and resources.
i came on to present bad news firstly. i dunno how, but i think i bricked one of my smartphones(a audiovox 5600/tornado). I was trying the HTC rom tool on it seeing i couldn't find the setup for wizard(not listed in the drop down). the initial load F'ed up somehow. i didn't get it i did everything like the walkthroughs said as far as unlocking but when i started loading a rom i messed up. THAT'S when i realized my dumbass was trying to load a wizard rom on a tornado so now it wont do anything but stare at me with the blacked out screen. any help on that one(point me to the nearest fix 'em up thread) would be appreciated.
now for better news....
Upon frying my tornado, decided to just do some theory/reasearch and deveolpment work. now before i start hack 'n' slashin at my wizard i need a few moments with it... that is to say i would like to know where to gat:
(1) a "working" Bluetooth FTP cab for wizard
(2) the "esmertec java" cab.
I just moded up to Jaguar's 3.1 cingular a couple days ago and it's beautiful.
!!!BIG props to nottoosmart on the ROM!!!
The java controller is amazing. It even runs alot of my sony ericsson w810's java games(yes before this i was using sony ericsson) in full screen. so i would love to be able to put that in my ROM( as long as it doesn't offend anyone)
using Core Kitchen...
Ok, ok, ok...
Neon, I must say that this setup you have is beautiful. i followed the tutorial and it was awesome. one problem though it gave me an error at the end when i went to move the nbf to the ruu folder so i haven't flashed( kinda scared after i trashed my tornado http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324099 ). But otherwise it ran as far as i can tell smoothly. Now here is my questions....
(1) Could the fact i named it "MiaMediaOS.nbf" instead of the regular "nk.nbf" be why i got the error and if so do i need to redo the process?
(2) after completing the whole process i realized that i didn't edit anything so where do i start to do so.
If you're worried i'm gonna mess up that's cool, but i'm kinda backwards that way in that i learn by doing the part i want first then encorperating it into what i need to do.
The nbf only needs to be name nk.nbf when you go to flash it with the RUU. If the error you got was when you were turning the packages into an .nb file then it could be you overfilled the ROM.
Oooooooohhhhhh.... You can do that?
zeen,
i gotcha. Idoubt i did that but it's nice to know it's possible. Ok lemmie tell you why i decided to make this move even though so many talented people put all this stuff on here for me to enjoy.
I started out with Faria's real ROM (great improvement to my Factory 8125 ROM)...
Then i Loaded Loaded DoudleFour's ROM ( no offence but either i didn't like it or it did'nt like me), followed shortly By the Titanium ROM WM6Ti2 (beautiful ROM just too slow for me)...
I went with NBD's 8.3 and it was another fine achievement but then realized that the Jaguar was "lighter" henceforth faster (correct right? ) so that's where I'm at now. All that blabber to say this, I wanna make a WM6 ROM with the Following:
-Office 2007
-WM5torage
-Total Commander
-BT_FTP
-HTC X-Button 1.51
-8 buttons command manager
(flighttmode,BTH,IR,Sound,Phone,WIFI,ActiveSYNC,
and if possible put the BTH FTP in as well)
-Adobe Reader LE
-A2DP Profile
-FWUPDATE
-HTC Home (i was hoping that with it already installed it run quicker)
-Windows Media Player
-MS VoiceCommand 1.6
-Camera 3.0
-SqlCeMobile
-VoIP
-Windows Live
-HTC Jeodek Java/Esmertec Java ( think there the same,not sure)
**TWEAKS**
-Lunar Calendar
-Time Sync Tab
-Date - Single Line
-Enable 802.11g
-Error Reporting Disabled
-Security Warning Disabled
-Cleartype in Landscape
-Ring Volume Increase
-Enabled Clock on all applications
-Make WM6 ask where to install application
-Prompt before over writing installation
-Enabled SD BatteryFix
-Show "Busy" Status in Calendar view
-Show calendar event text in "Week View"
-Enabled Edge Icon
-Enabled Caps notifier
-Show tomorrow's appointments on Today Screen
-Transcriber
...Basically a simple system that will look beautiful, run smooth and provide the essentials... a moded out Jaguar if you will . Notice i didn't list the default games... i never use 'em, most people don't. I been doing some looking into it and the Java App in the list runs alot of the Java programs and games from alot of different phones. right now I'm using MSDict Dictionary(java), Dr.Sudoku(java), Tetris(java), Worms Forts(java) and a few back of the woods type stuff from sony ericsson's java development forums.
One option you may want to look at is to go find a custom rom that is already built and has everything (or most everything) that you want in your rom (or go find a good base Vanilla rom and start from there). You can then pull that rom apart (if you are using Core Kitchen or newer HyperCore Kitchen, the tools are all there under Extract) and get the OEM, SYS, and ROM folder. Then you can move that to your kitchen area and push and poke, add and remove to your hearts content to create your own personal spiced dish. To be honest (IMO) a lot of the newer roms around here pretty much are nothing but doing just that. Very few of the roms change much in the way of how things actually work, registry settings, etc, but are just reheated versions of other roms.
So with that said, if you do create a new rom, and decide to release it, make sure you give proper credit where the credit is due...
BTW: Be aware though that the latest Faria rom (based on 318) and the NBD series are not as easy to pull apart. Faria lumps everything in one directory (as I recall), and Zoki removes the .rgu files from his rom (or he used to). So with those, you will have to do work to use them as a base.
Oh, one other comment... You could also just grab the consolidated kitchen and work from there. It has packages for about everything you listed already. If you can't find the Esmertec Java Manager package, let me know as I have one.
good.
Thanx.
I took this afternoon to just rowse around the kitchen and make myself familiar to the setup, cause even if i don't go full blast on my first ROM i intend to build the B___H. i did realize there are alot of the program folders in the kitchen that i need and that somehow(not sure, just theory work) i can actually pull out the remaining neccessities from Jaguar 3.1. And trust Credit goes out to you guys everyday... dealing with a problem at work is one thing but the way you guys have fun cooking roms and listening to gripers off the clock!!! my hat's off to you fellas (no but kiss intended).
And yeah if you would be so kind i would love the java program link.
Oh, To Be Young And Dumb Again... being naive is sooooo over rated
Wolfdragon said:
And yeah if you would be so kind i would love the java program link.
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Its attached. Enjoy...
hope nobody was expecting a fresh one...
ok,ok,ok...
let's just say i got bored. i tried and tried to figure out a way to create my own rom from scratch, but to no avail.
Sooooo instead i decided to let it sit for now and just get the rom i wanted built using the gifts here. So what did i do? simple first lemmie say Mattk_R fine job on the kitchen and rom sets couldn't have done it without ya .
So obviously based on that you know now i used the "Consolidated Kitchen". It is extremly user friendly and if you know your basics ( Many thanks to Peter Petrelli,Faria and entry level teachings from Mfrazzz & NeonKoala ) the kitchen is a breeze.
Now pay attention noobies!!! (mocking my own ignorance )
If you want a good ROM with very little done to it there are toms including some stock roms stripped to the bone. However if you need a really good "vanilla" ROM, here are a few threads to check out:
Consolidated Kitchen Central - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144. To me the best vanilla with kitchen i've ever seen.
FINAL ROM WITH Pro Rom Kitchen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
HyperCore Kitchen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309549. Be careful with this one 'cause if you don't follow to the L E T T E R you might get stuck in tri color mode(boot screen) and need this thread "Tales from a brick and back--Newbies suggested reading".
Thats what i did...
I tried to build my own rom from strach too, but i dont think i can get it...or maybe if i just try and flash about 100 times i might get it...but i dont have patience for that...LOL
So, I used WhiteRat rom (thanks whiterat), ripped it apart using core kitchen (thanks anichillus), then deleted the packages that i dont like, and added my own packages that i have been collecting...
It seems to work now, i really want to try to out for a few weeks to see how i like it, but i just cant control my urge to cook one more rom with different packages...LOL
PS: I have tried many kitchens, i think core is the best for a newbie like me...been trying hypercore for a while now, it can be little more complicated than core...
Cab file?
Mfrazz do u have a cab file for the esmertec java?
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Mfrazz do u have a cab file for the esmertec java?
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Sorry, I do not. BTW:the package I posted is the April version, and it is still working (the June version timebombed a few days ago on Sept 1).
Even though some of us shadow/juno users don't have a section up here yet, are there any works in progress for wm6.1? I know they have it for the dash so I am not sure how much different it would be for the shadow/juno.
ya i would seriously love this haha i really want a 6.1 shadow rom with threaded text messaging
I would like to see it too
I would love to see a Juno/Shadow section
we've been fighting for an htc s640 forum for a few weeks now, they just ignore us lol, so i doubt you guys are going to get one as well anytime soon heh..
we're also poking around for a wm6.1 rom, no luck
dont' worry guys, you're not the only ones!
It sure would be nice to have our own section for the JUNO/Shadow, and I find it hard to believe that none of these ROM cookers have not been working on a WM6.1 custom rom for the shadow.
The 3125 has been a staple of the smartphone community for too long, and anyone who has used the shadow can appreciate the larger screen and better camera found in the shadow.
Come on y'all...........it's time for some JUNO/Shadow love
I guess we will have to start learning how to "cook" roms.
I'll try to learn something and post it on my website: http://www.freddyreyes.com/forums
There isn't that much to regular cooking of roms. The problem is porting it from another device(which I have no idea how to do). Here are the things you need to do to mod the rom after you have that very important step figured out:
Extract rom (extracted versions are floating around in this forum somewhere...(Check Calling all T-Mo Shadow users thread)
Dump rom into bin files and then convert to normal files/folders
Add/remove files as needed
Create XIP chain with working Shadow drivers (Don't know how to do that)
Convert fiel back to a bin file and recreate os file (nk.nbh)
I can do all of these steps except creating the new XIP chain. I have no idea where to start with that.
I just remembered, you also need to make any drivers in the actual rom that don't work universally to work for the shadow.
If someone can teach me some of the things to do to port the rom, I'll try and do it.
I don't understand why they won't make us a new section
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I just remembered, you also need to make any drivers in the actual rom that don't work universally to work for the shadow.
If someone can teach me some of the things to do to port the rom, I'll try and do it.
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How can I give you the drivers? Do I need to "dump" my Rom and extract the files?
Here is the post that you mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351660
Well, I've got the shadow dump, but I don't know how to edit any drivers from a different devices wm6.1 to work for the shadow
Maybe Kavana (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=373268) at the Excalibur forum can give us a hand. He ported 6.1 to the Dash.
Ok. What device's wm6.1 should we try and port and what build?
I know that there are currently 3 builds of wm6.1, but I don't know if they all have to do with smartphones(maybe only for ppc). Which should we use?
There are 2 that could work. The Dash is very similar to the Shadow. It has wi-fi, bluetooth, camera...however the camera is only 1.3 Mp and the other issue could be the "sure type" shadow's keyboard.
Dash (Smartphone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890
Tornado (Smartphone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
The only problem I can see with using the dash is that it's landscape oriented and the shadow is portrait oriented. It doesn't matter to me though..
spl
i would say use the vox. there is a 6.1 build for the vox. and also not rain on this but, even if you make a build how are we going to flash it? spl will be locked i'm guessing and as far as i know nobody has come up with a jump or hard spl yet for the juno
Does anyone know if Lokiwiz works for the shadow? We could CID unlock it with that, right?
I tried that on my old Wizard and it worked not sure about the Shadow....
EDIT: I thought it CID unlocked my phone. I'll try something else. I downloaded the vox SYS and OEM folders that contain the rom image. (I'll start replacing all the parts tomorrow. Thanks pixelwix for reminding about the cid unlock and the Vox rom suggestion.
Hello. I've been working all week with my Apache xv6700 and learned to upgrade to wm6.1 with ppckitchen.org "cooking".
I've tried and tried to get a HTC type interface setup with touchflow, cube, ect. I just tried a maillia2d that locked up my system required a flash again.
Anyways, my point is there is a tremendous amount of great info here and incredible techie in detail...often to techie for a mild tech like me.
Who can recommend a install suite of HTC touchflow type products they know will work with the Apache. What of the 101 links around the best sites is a good solution. Often I find a good option but it's not very complete with functionality.
Just give me your great full setup that best emulates a 2d or 3d setup. I do understand the ROM can bearly hold the wm6.1 and a few items...so I am fine with CAB options. I may be a done with "cooking" since I've spent so much time!
Thanks for any constructive comments. No flames or "my question is dumb" comments please!
Thanks.
Shawn
rsfeller said:
Hello. I've been working all week with my Apache xv6700 and learned to upgrade to wm6.1 with ppckitchen.org "cooking".
I've tried and tried to get a HTC type interface setup with touchflow, cube, ect. I just tried a maillia2d that locked up my system required a flash again.
Anyways, my point is there is a tremendous amount of great info here and incredible techie in detail...often to techie for a mild tech like me.
Who can recommend a install suite of HTC touchflow type products they know will work with the Apache. What of the 101 links around the best sites is a good solution. Often I find a good option but it's not very complete with functionality.
Just give me your great full setup that best emulates a 2d or 3d setup. I do understand the ROM can bearly hold the wm6.1 and a few items...so I am fine with CAB options. I may be a done with "cooking" since I've spent so much time!
Thanks for any constructive comments. No flames or "my question is dumb" comments please!
Thanks.
Shawn
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install the touchflo cube suite by xplode (in ppckitchen.org buildos) and that will give you ftouchflo and the htc cube.
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i have Touch2d installed on my Xv6700 and it runs fine, just takes up a hella lot of space on the rom but i also have a crap load of ProgZ installed