Hi,
Many quesitons about how to well recharge and so preserv the battery life of the XDA.
- Is it a good way to let the XDA on its craddle with the power source even if the XDA is full power (green led) ?
- Would it be a better idea to let the XDA recharge and once it is done, disconnect the power source ?
- May I wait my XDA is 40% power leaving before recharge it or can I recharge it even if the XDA is not very decharged .
Thx
Zendrui
The XDA uses Li-ion battery cells. You can safely leave it one the charger, and you can recharge at any time during the discharge without affecting battery life or much charge the battery will take. Charging and use below 5-10 degrees celsius or so should seriously affect performance, but only while at these temperatures.
We're using a large number of XDAs and have been since their first introduction. I must say the battries haven't let us down, which is more than I can say for my Sony notebook batteries.
Thank you very much for your explanations.
It is good to know that I can put my Qtek on its craddle with the power anytime even if my Qtek is fully recharged. Or recherged it when I can without waiting the betery is lower
Thx again.
Zendrui
What is an xda? Isn't that the name of the forum?
You can read more on this subject here.
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You can read more on this subject here.
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This link gets 5 stars..
I'm also curious as to this XDA you guys are speaking of.
Edit: Just googled and returned this. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Xda
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Yes quite illuminating!!!
I just read the whole intire (every single freaking word) thread about official batterys in the accessory thread,and it delivered no answers. It seems as if the people in that thread would rather argue,than help the movement and find the best alternitive. Does anyone know of a battery for the inspire,that would deliver better battery life?
I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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Yeah i def plan on rooting and flashing whatever sense rom there are,that was gonna be my next step after i receive the phone tomorrow. I know with my old cappy there was a rom that conerved battery and boosted my battery life by atleast 3 or 4 hours a day. Amazing what the devs can do,but me,im a VERY HEAVY user but im only using my phone from around 5pm until maybe 2am because of my work shcedule. I just hope a better battery comes out. My whole past week consisted of 2384720589 million google searches and reading through 84573809 million threads to see if i should get an atrix,or an inspire and i chose the inspire. After all the android phones ive had,i want this one to be something that makes me wanna stick with it for my 2 years. ehh,we'll see
If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
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If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
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Yeah, I am using juice defender as well. Not a fan of the fact that it toggles my data on a schedule ... but hey... it sure helps.
Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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is the evo's battery thicker or wider? i know the evo's wont work but i know it cant be too much bigger
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The only possible way to get a larger capacity battery would be very tricky. It would require a battery door that had power posts to contact the battery contacts, while maintaining connection of the required contact points on the battery door. Sounds simple enough, but trust me, the development and production costs of said battery would prolly far outweigh potential profit. As a result, I don't think we'll ever see one those type batteries. I suggest following the advice of the other members previous replies, as their insight is that of a Jedi Master. More like, we are Droidi, they are Droidi Masters. Lmao
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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Hooray for deadheads. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing these threads pop up and stick on the first page of the forums in the DHD and Inspire sections. If you have seen how the battery goes in there, there is no way to stick a new one in there without some serious R&D. There have been a number of efforts on xda attempting to dispel the myths that state a battery that's identical in physical volume to the stock battery can hold any more juice. That's a boldfaced lie until something better and more cost-effective than Li-Po comes along. Even the giant batteries that say "3500 mah" usually have 2,xxx mah. I used to not care about the latter because I could make my Wizard, Hermes, Kaiser, and Rhodium last for two or three days on a charge for $10 on ebay. I testmed my "2800 mah" batteries and they were anywhere between 1940 and 2300 mAH, but it was still worth it to me until I got my Rhodium and figured out HTC made an official 2,150 mah battery and door that I tested and sent to xda member "Dougie" to test with a more accurate method than mine and it tested at exactly 2,150 mAH. Stock HTC batteries usually test around 95% of their rated capacity.
I don't want to write a 5 paragraph essay on the chemistry of Li-Po batteries, so please take it from a battery life freak that a larger battery in this phone is impossible. The best they'll be able to do is things like the iPhone's Mophie Juice Pack. My solution is that of the previous poster in that I bought an 8,800 mAH battery that weighs a couple of pounds that I take with me when I go camping for a week or two and use the phone for satnav with satellite imagery. It takes a while to load on GPRS, but who cares when I've got 10,000 mAH of juice? For outdoor sessions greater than 14 days I have a few photovoltaic panels and a waterproof project box to get it to 5V. It'll charge the big battery in about 4 days of direct sunlight as long as I don't uberkill the battery and have to 'shock' it back to life.
Yet another thread on battery. Sigh.
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Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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I've seen that type of setup work on some equipment where I work too. Except professionally done so that its housed right and doubled nicely as protection for the devices.
As for the external battery, it isn't much in weight for me, but I tend to go everywhere with some kinda backpack on, or a laptop bag, so to me its just there. Plus when I'm at work, all the outlets are in areas that I'd have to either duck under my desk to mess with my phone, or buy longer USB cables. I just go with the battery, more so since I can use it when out of the office and there isn't any outlets around. Same with like on a plane, at an airport, etc where outlets are crowded or not as enjoyable to work with. Plus the case I have the phone in requires I use a knife to get the stupid thing open, which means changing batteries is ten times the work as plugging in a USB cable.
if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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Oh I have no doubt the technology will improve, more juice in a smaller space, kinda like hard drives... Somehow they always manage to get more into the same space.
Just not in time to be an alternative after-market battery solution for this particular phone.
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i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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No,people gave bad reviews of battery and argued the fact if there will be a better battery. My question was has anyone found one that boosted it at all. Any,whatsoever. I didn't post in that thread because I didn't want one of those rude asses to jump down my throat. So as I have the right,I started my own thread.
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So then to answer your question. I have not read, heard or seen a battery that will do any better than the original. Best bet at this point in time is to by a spare or carry a charger with you.
I have experience much better battery life with custom ROMs vs the stock ROM.
I'm posting this for informative purposes. This is not to ***** about anything or prove anyone wrong. These are simply my findings and my conclusion. I was a sales person for wireless carriers for 8 years and saw this stuff a lot and I would stress test phones before swapping because I hated giving people refurbished crap for them to come back and complain about the same overheat issue. This experience led me to think before doing a device swap.
my G2x battery got hot from day one. From my monitoring I noticed the following.
1. The phone itself was not really hot. Just general radiation from the immediate battery area and it cooled off quickly after battery removal while battery would stay hot for a good 15-20 minutes.
2. Battery temp would hit 106 degrees.
3. Battery life just plain sucked. Charging it 2 to 3 times a day on light use.
T-mobile replaced my battery and after one full day of on and off abuse running 6 quadrants in a row at Max overclock amongst other things and with a thick non breathable case in the back the temp never got over 99 degrees. Prior to swap just reading and posting on xda would spike temps and that was with no case.
So before you decide to do anything pay close attention to what exactly is getting hot. Is the actual device hot or is it just the battery. Is the device a tad warmer simply due to the battery being too hot? Get a battery monitor installed to see the temp. Check your settings such as overclocking undervoltage etc.
T-Mobile just wanted to swap everything but since my phone was not hot and I had a good screen and never a boot or reboot issue even before root and bloat installed etc so I didn't want to take a chance and get a **** device. They also told me it was OK that k needed to charge it 3 times a day. I said with triple the usage on my G2 I almost never needed to charge it at all mid day. While each device varies, one third the battery life on one third the usage is simply not right no matter how you look at it.
So I say pay attention to detail before returning your device especially if your device is a good one because it would suck to get a **** device in exchange for your good one just because of a battery.
EDIT. I do want to add that my battery has spiked to 103.8 degrees while basically doing CPU intensive stuff While charging the entire time. When not on the charger it did not spike as high. After a short time after charge hit 100% it dropped over 1.5 degrees pretty quickly.
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The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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What? Really? Lol thanks for the info! I've noticed my battery getting hella hot when using navigation and a car charger. I could barely even hold the thing...
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What? Really? Lol thanks for the info! I've noticed my battery getting hella hot when using navigation and a car charger. I could barely even hold the thing...
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OEM car charger or some wallywolrd special?
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The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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The fact that you wrote that leads me to believe you miss a lot of really important information because someone wrote "alot" as opposed to "a lot". Someone who writes "alot" isn't worth your time or energy?
There is a Poll concerning HTC One Series extended batteries issue: YES or NO
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Would be interesting to discuss this issue, please take a poll
i think battery life is awesome on this phone, Ive never had such good battery life with any other smartphone..
I dont think it needs extended battery.
I think HTC actually tried to eliminate battery drain before making a non removable battery.
I second that, getting great battery usage.
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Me too get very good battery time.
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I made it from 7:30Am to 10:32PM without hitting 10% reserve. The battery life is fine. Just wish people in the amaze form would realize that.
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I made it from 7:30Am to 10:32PM without hitting 10% reserve. The battery life is fine. Just wish people in the amaze form would realize that.
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what connection were you using? wifi or mobile?
Battery life is just great. Nearly no drain in idle.
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what connection were you using? wifi or mobile?
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Mobile all the way
There will always be people who want an extended battery, but its really not needed unless you are using your phone to make 50 pho.e calls in a day or you play 3 hours of games. most people will be more than happy with the battery life provided by the One S.
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no need for a Extended Battery here, where would the battery go if there was one
If you are in bad cell coverage (which eats more juice) or are a heavy user, pray god invest a few bucks into a Gumpack external battery. That thing is half the size if a pack of cigs and stores enough juice for 2-3 full recharges on the go. Its one little more gadget to toss into your daypack and remember to keep charged but its well worth the bother. Certainly easier than speculating about a bigger battery while batt life is fine for most users.
And I am not bashing, if you have a 1.5h commute to work and spend it playing GTA3 i can see where the juice goes. So a gumpack battery would be your best approach, with the current 28nm Krait architecture there is not a lot to gain batterywise really. Plus, the AMOLED sucks less juice on dark images, something to keep in mind when picking a background image I think.
http://www.amazon.com/Just-Mobile-4...QTOC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335148368&sr=8-1
(There are also cheaper competitors offering similar devices if you shop around...)
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How much time passed before you charged it there? About a whole day, right?
i got almost 2 days from it... that was with light use.. with moderate to heavy use i can reach around 24 hours..
but i always stick my phone on charge via usb when im on xda so i never run to 0%
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A young woman has invented a super capacitor that can charge cellphones instantly. Can you imagine the impact this could have on our mobile devices? Blows my mind. Saw the story over at yahoo
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/teen-invents-tiny-device-instantly-231814632.html
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The article said that fully charge a cellphone will cost only 30 seconds, it's hard for me to imagine that this will happen in my life Instantly. Anyway, that is really a good news.
If this ends up becoming real and mainstream it could render battery life concerns and tweaking virtually pointless, and it could possibly make manufacturers not care about battery size and running time. For people in traveling situations where a plug is not accessible it would make external battery packs very popular.
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This would be great!!
for the way batterys are made today it would kill your battery faster, kinda like corrupt blocks on a sdcard you would lose the amount of charge the battery could hold if not charged correctly, but very good idea if you can make batterys that were designed to be "super charged"