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Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve
Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?
Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.
I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru
Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful
Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?
Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day
Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now
Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco
Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.
Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered
I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html
TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom
TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?
I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...
Hi All,
Has anyone got the Widcomm stack working on the Magician (Jam etc)?
The 1.5.0.8 stack worked both under WM2003 and WM2003se on an MDAII but doesn't work on the magician.
Does the magician use a different bluetooth module ? Is it possible to adapt the registry?
Any help in getting this working, or any other solutions to get the magician connected to a BT Access point would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Martin
WIDCOMM STACK
I ALSO NEED THE WIDCOMM STACK FOR THE MAGICIAN
WHY DO THESES MANUFACTURERS ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE APPALLING ALTERNATIVE BLUETOOTH STACKS
DID NO ONE LEARN FROM THE XDA 2 !!
WIDCOMM IS GREAT EVEN ON THE HP 6340.
Working BlueSoleil BT Stack
I think this is what you're searching for...
It works for me.I'm using 1.13 radio, 1.13 Rom, no ExtRom.
It hasn't got 60 days evaulation, and added a Bluetooth switch to switch BlueSoleil Stack to MS Stack and vice versa, if you want to.
Try it and post the result...
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I have problem with it. The blue diod is not lighting.....I dont know, what I going to do....HELP PLEASE!!!! The starck is running, but it dont work.....HELP....
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How I network BlueSoleil stack with Widcomm.
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sejra said:
I have problem with it. The blue diod is not lighting.....I dont know, what I going to do....HELP PLEASE!!!! The starck is running, but it dont work.....HELP....
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The led does not work but bluetooth itself does. I have no led too, bluesoleil runs pretty ok for the things it must do.
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HyperMalac said:
I think this is what you're searching for...
It works for me.I'm using 1.13 radio, 1.13 Rom, no ExtRom.
It hasn't got 60 days evaulation, and added a Bluetooth switch to switch BlueSoleil Stack to MS Stack and vice versa, if you want to.
Try it and post the result...
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I think the bluesoleil does not support the phone BT headset, only the stereo BT headset. That's not much good for a Pocket PC phone.
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jonboy8841 said:
I ALSO NEED THE WIDCOMM STACK FOR THE MAGICIAN
WHY DO THESES MANUFACTURERS ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE APPALLING ALTERNATIVE BLUETOOTH STACKS
DID NO ONE LEARN FROM THE XDA 2 !!
WIDCOMM IS GREAT EVEN ON THE HP 6340.
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That is the Microsoft BT stack, when the Magician was on the drawing boards it was thought that the industry would go MS. Instead it went WIDCOMM.
The Magician could run WIDCOMM, but someone would have to write hardware drivers, and no one has. So no, it cannot be done. Too bad, the WIDCOMM works so well...
Thx
This file is 100% working fine with I-Mate JAM Black. Thx.
HyperMalac: ive tried that on my magician, but it wont work, it want me to configure the driver or something...
When installed, using BlueSoleil stack, a window pops up saying
"Your bluetooth device initialization fails! Do you want to configure it manually?"
If i select no it just shuts down and my blutooth is unusable.
If i select yes it wants me to select among a couple of options:
USB, BCSP, UART(H4)
and user defined, which forces me to select a dll, but i dont know which...
Ive tried all options and none works....
Help whit this is VERY MUCH appriciated!
EDIT: Now for which every reason, it worked, dunno what I did, but now I'll never switch back to MS stack!
I just got my JAM and the MS Stack doesn't work with my Audi MMI System BT. The PDA2K Widcomm stack 1.1 did, but not the JAM. I can partner but no functionality.
Has anyone tried using the MDA II/XDA II BT Tools that helped that devices MS BT Stack with the JAM?
I love the JAM, but the MS Stack has so little menu functions.
yes it works perfect for me ... the same functions in xda2
Having quite same problems with Nokia carkit, after pairing connection dies quickly and doesn't work. Under BT devices menu "set as hands-free" is grayed out and also using bluetooth tools doesn't make difference, the connection screen just disappears quickly when pairing so can't change profile, maybe it's due incompability...
Don't know if it's possible to change BT stack but at the moment this thing sucks...
GPS Navman 4410 on Qtek S100
Sounds like the same problem I have with my GPS-connection (Subject GPS)
Could someone post the Bluetooth Tools file? I can't find it anywhere on my system or on the web.
thanks
Paragon said:
Could someone post the Bluetooth Tools file? I can't find it anywhere on my system or on the web.
thanks
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http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
Thanks kha!
Tools doesn't work well on my JAM!
Hi!
I´ve tested the Pocket Bluetooth Tools as well, but it doesn´t worked on my MDA compact (German ROM). When the software was installed, the BT doesnt work anymore.
My special problem is with the Royaltek RBT 3000 and the download of the tracks to the pda. Each time i try this, the connection breaks after 200 waypoints approx. The normal use with the navigation software like TomTom works well.
Looking for a solution.
Regards
FluBeX
Hi,
I have to use a special Bluetooth Tool for my Business. With this Tool I have to send and receive some Files, to make a malfunction detection on Electronic Devices. At my last PDAs, I paired my tool and my PDA at first, and then I create a Serial Connection. After that I have to assign a free incoming and outgoing Comm Port, to send and receive some Data files.
But now I have a Problem on my new XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) PDA. `This is my first WM6 Device, and on this one, I cannot create an incoming Comm Port, because there is no possibility to create an incoming Comm Port. What can I do, to solve this Problem. Is it possible to add this Feature at the WM6 Bluetooth Stack?
Thank you for Helping!
Nobody with the same Problem?
Does nobody know to fix this Problem? Maybe we only need some File out of the Old WM5 OS, to create an incoming Come Port in the new WM6 OS?
Thank you...
How can any body offer any help without knowing this "special tool"
victoradjei said:
How can any body offer any help without knowing this "special tool"
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Hi,
The Problem is not the "Bluetooth Stick" called tool. The Problem is, that it is not possible to create an incoming comm Port, on the newer WM6 Devices. But this incoming Comm Port is a necessary Condition, to receive Data from a disturbed machine, through this Bluetooth Stick, onto my PDA. This Data I need for a intelligent error evaluation.
I hope, someone can help...
Perazzi said:
Hi,
The Problem is not the "Bluetooth Stick" called tool. The Problem is, that it is not possible to create an incoming comm Port, on the newer WM6 Devices. But this incoming Comm Port is a necessary Condition, to receive Data from a disturbed machine, through this Bluetooth Stick, onto my PDA. This Data I need for a intelligent error evaluation.
I hope, someone can help...
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It would be worthwhile to know the brandname of your hardware and specifications of it. There are so many products called "Bluetooth Stick".
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It would be worthwhile to know the brandname of your hardware and specifications of it. There are so many products called "Bluetooth Stick".
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Hi,
The only specitfications about the Bluetooth Stick Tool I is, that it run only under "Master Mode", and not under "Slave Mode", because it` s more security for the Data. And the Master Mode would be work only with an"incomming Port". Sorr, but more Information I could not get from the Manufactor.
Thanky for helping...
Does nobody knows the Answer ?
I'd be intereseted if you ever come up with a solution. I'm trying to create an incoming com port so that I can use GPS2Blue with my car PC. No luck as of yet. I'll post if I find anything.
U cannot create incoming port on WM6 BT stack. But so far i didnt have any problems wits sending/recieving files, comunication with external BT GPS. Al u need 2 do is properly pair devices, properly configure external GPS settings & open outgoing port. Truth is i didnt test ext BT GPS with my Orbit2(o2 branded polaris), but i tryed it w/ Orbit & Universal (both WM6). I can try it today and i'll let U know
phsnake said:
U cannot create incoming port on WM6 BT stack. But so far i didnt have any problems wits sending/recieving files, comunication with external BT GPS. Al u need 2 do is properly pair devices, properly configure external GPS settings & open outgoing port. Truth is i didnt test ext BT GPS with my Orbit2(o2 branded polaris), but i tryed it w/ Orbit & Universal (both WM6). I can try it today and i'll let U know
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I'm not trying to use external GPS. I'm trying to use a program called GPS2Blue to route the signal from my internal GPS to a car PC via bluetooth. I thought the WM6 BT stack does support SPP, but does not advertise it as a service, thus creating the difficulty in creating SPP connections. I could be wrong though...
u dont need to create incoming port - thats if U want to recieve some data from [another device] with TC data flows 2 TC(tc is recipient) in your case u need too create OUTGOING (TC is sender)
incoming port problem
well I cannot use my bluetooth handsfree for incoming calls on my T-Mobile Vario II.I can make outgoing calls. There is no option in WM6 for creating incoming part.
I have tried diffrent bluetooth sets but no joy.I had no problems with WM5.
Any help will greatly be appreciated.
regards
phsnake said:
u dont need to create incoming port - thats if U want to recieve some data from [another device] with TC data flows 2 TC(tc is recipient) in your case u need too create OUTGOING (TC is sender)
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Wether a port is incoming or outgoing depends on which device initiates the connection, not which way data flows. For example, in your earlier example of an external BT GPS paired with a Pocket PC, the Pocket PC uses an outgoing connection to the GPS because it initiates the connection, not because data is flowing from the PPC to the GPS.
This is why I need to create an incoming port for my computer to see the PPC as an external BT GPS unit. The mapping program on the computer initiates the connection, then GPS coordinates are sent from the phone to the computer.
I've seen other programs that create their own virtual incoming port. Maybe that is what GPSGate does (I've heard it works for this use).
fairdeal said:
well I cannot use my bluetooth handsfree for incoming calls on my T-Mobile Vario II.I can make outgoing calls. There is no option in WM6 for creating incoming part.
I have tried diffrent bluetooth sets but no joy.I had no problems with WM5.
Any help will greatly be appreciated.
regards
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incoming or outgoing port doesnt have anything to do w/ btooth headset. Either U have probs w/ Ur ROM or w/ headset.
bedoig: i know that but i didnt know how 2 explain it properly
incoming por
phsnake said:
incoming or outgoing port doesnt have anything to do w/ btooth headset. Either U have probs w/ Ur ROM or w/ headset.
bedoig: i know that but i didnt know how 2 explain it properly
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well I have two Brand New MDA Vario 2 handsets with offical Tmobile windows mobile 6 rom. Mobile handset cannot be faulty.
As I said it was working fine when it was on WM5.
Bletooth headset work perfectly with other mobile phones including Vario 1 with WM5.
regards
I have Polaris(o2 orbit2) & MotoROKR S9(beckham ed) w/o any probs. but this thread is dedicated to polaris, maybe smth similar was already covered in vario II thread. Try to check there, or post it there.
I have an old Motorola H350 headset and it works fine both ways (incoming/outgoing calls)... so based on your descriptions the incoming port of my Polrais works...
For setting Incoming port you can just simply copy few registry entries from WM5 to WM6.
I have used it for my application smartWatchM. I dont know how it works, but it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362218
moneytoo said:
For setting Incoming port you can just simply copy few registry entries from WM5 to WM6.
I have used it for my application smartWatchM. I dont know how it works, but it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362218
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Thank you. You are my Hero...
It`s exact that`s what I need. Now my Bluetooths Device is working fine, and the XDA Orbit2 (Polaris) is the best PDA for my Requirements.
And Greetings to "Schaggo" Member in St. Gallen... Thanks for your good Work.
Is there any chance someone could let me know what those registry settings are? I have the same problem with not being able to create an incoming com port but I don't have a wm5 device to reference at the moment.
Thanks in advance,
-TheXenocide
hello guys,
i'm new here and I hope im posting in the right section.
My car ist equipped with a bluetooth carkit (Blaupunkt USB/Bluetooth Interface).
It is using the handsfree-protocol (HFP) to connect the phone.
With a couple of "classical" mobiles (basicly nokia and siemens devices) it is possible to access the Phonebook and activate voice recognition by pressing the ptt-button of the carkit.
This is neither done through SimAccessProtocol (SAP) or SerialPortProtocol (SPP) nor by PhoneBookAccessProtocol (PBAP). The Carkit is nearly 2 years old, and beliving some sources i found PBAP is a newer Standard.
This Carkit connects to the phonebook using an extended Handsfree-Protocol.
My HTC Wizard didn't support the carkit at all. After a rom upgrade to some kind of wm6 rom it worked very well execpt for phonebook-access.
Some time ago i found a tool named "JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones" (http://www.jetwaremobile.com) which exented the HFP-Profile used by the Microsoft-Bluetooth-Stack and enabled the phonebook access.
Since my Wizard broke some days ago i bought a new phone. I thought it would be possible to use every WM6-phone with the mentioned plugin.
So i bought a LG KS20. It looks and works very well and i want to keep it. But i have a problem with it. It uses a Widcomm/Broadcom-Bluetooth-Stack (ver. 1.8.7.0600). It seems like it has much better support for bluetooth-devices than the Ms-Stack (and this must be the reason why most people want to use a widcomm-stack instead of a ms-stack).
It also has PBAP and SAP-Plugins.
BUT, since my carkit does not support PBAP or SAP, and the HandsfreeProfile seems to be just supported elementary (PTT-Button only for redial), phonebookAccess does not work on the LG.
The jetware-Extension only supports ms-stacks.
I already spend some nights on gathering information and testing settings but didn't get very far.
There are some registry settings concerning paired devices, where things like HFPfeatures are mentioned. The value is set to 257 and trying to change it to some other values didn't affect anything.
I also downloaded the Widcomm SDK and tryed to find something about these options, but since the SDK is two years old and nothing about HFP is included this also was worth nothing.
My last try was to use the MS-Stack (from wizard) instead of the widcomm-stack. The registry keys for Ms-Stack seem to be present, but all efforts ended up in about 5 hardresets.
Is there anyone here who can help me solving my problem?
Is there a cab file with a ms bt stack i could try anywhere?
Or is there an extension like jetware for the widcomm stack, respectively only a few registry changes are neccessary and someone knowns better?
many thanks,
andi
hi, I have the same problem, with my htc hd 2. have you found any solution?
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same problem with me as well
This is a common problem with M$ and car kits, see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519676&page=4 and many other threads like it.
I havent tried what he suggests yet, but i know my freelander 2 doesnt connect properly with all cooked roms i have ever tried so far (many!).
Not that this helps you as it is the software you have tried.