Apple today released the iPod video and now the iTunes music store will sell TV shows, short movies (currently from Pixar) and music videos. The format will apparently be MPEG4. I wonder if these will be playable on WM5.
They will have the FairPlay DRM - so unless someone cracks the DRM, or De-DRMs them, tou wont be able to play them on WM5. - unless of course the iTunes for WM5 is real, in which case you will be able to play them
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Is it possible, even when flash is released, that we would be able to stream live media like that of mlb.tv? Is it possible to stream the gameday audio with the current makeup with the phone, has anyone tried yet? I really really hope mlb embraces android and puts something out there for us fans.
I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.
afoulke said:
I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.
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It's got no trouble showing movies stored on the SD card, so I'd imagine that streaming video should work ok too, so long as the data stream can keep up.
Yeah thats what I am not sure of is the data stream, Movies the system can prepare for what is coming next because it is saved in a file that never changes streaming video of live TV is a little different it really depends on how good the graphic card is and how well it can process the info as it is downloaded which from what I remeber the graphics card in the g1 isnt the greatest.
My guess is that when flash is here, most of all that will be possible, best over 3G/wifi of course, but there's no reason it wouldn't be possible. I wouldn't be surprised if there's TV apps in the making right now for Android.
How does the youtube client work, is the entire clip downloaded first?
I would guess the phone just caches a little, then starts streaming, and it sure works great for me.
I would like to be able to stream this:
mms://straumV.nrk.no/nrk_tv_webvid03_h
and similiar video streams.
~Christopher
That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...
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That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
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I wasn't aware of that - I use Ubuntu Linux and watch this stream via my VLC player and it works great - guess the VLC player uses some fancy codec or something, I don't know. i just assumed that since it worked on my Linux desktop it might work on Android given the correct application - a bit naïve, I know...
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...
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The other day I downloaded nswPlayer, in the video section it has an 'enter URL' field but I'm not sure whether it means it can stream remote videos - probably not.
Are there any other Android players that would play H264 streams?
~Christopher
No idea how VLC does it, unless you've got the x86 codecs loaded from mplayer (which are just copies of the Windows ones).
I expect the browser can be persuaded to stream h264.. it's just Webkit after all.
has anyone actually used the kinoma play program on their phone there is an add for it here just wondering what others think of it
Yeah, i've tried Kinoma Play.
Good-looking player. But cant play movies.
U have to buy the pro version...
Plays almost anything.
I'm not sure what he's talking about it not playing movies. The only mobile format that I've had trouble with is AVI. I don't really undersatnd why it doesn't play it, but it doesn't. So I dl'd pocket Divx for those.
I use Kinoma for almost all of my YouTube watching, music listening, and picture viewing. I have an Audible account, so I use it to stream the morning paper every day, as well as audiobooks for the ride home. I also use it with my Orb software to stream music and movies from my home desktop. My only real complaint is that the menu system is kind of clunky. You have to press back, back, back to return to the main menu. There ought to be a shortcut to the main menu. Other than that, I'm very happy with it.
I did end up getting the paid version, but I didn't actually pay for it. They have a TrialPay link, so I signed up for a trial of RealPlayer, got the software, then cancelled the trial a couple days later.
Hope this helps your decision
If it can't play .avi files, I'd say that player sucks. Better check out Core Player first for your Pocket PC. Don't even waste your time.
I found this thread too, more information about it and the BUGS it has: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433026&highlight=kinoma+player
They don't support any type of AVI files, if you read through Kinoma's forum the creators say that it is too much trouble to support AVI due to all the variants of codec. They also state that most movies/TV shows that are pirated are in AVI format and they seem to be taking the moral highground over supporting it.
Very good as a music only player though, very swish interface.
I absolutely love Kinoma. I bought the pro version since.. well, I love it. I don't like watching movies on my phone AT ALL, so that's not a problem for me. The Internet radio feeds, podcasts and Flickr, Youtube, Audible, Orb, idisk and other features are awesome. I'd gladly pay for it again.
I love it! I only use Kinoma FreePlay because the Pro version offers me nothing more that I need. Ever since I installed it and found old MacGyver episodes, I've been doing a lot less work.
Dave
Also see my related remarks in my past articles.
iTunes' DRM free music wouldn't play on the music tab of my htc touch diamond, but it did play in other players. I suppose other people have problems too, so I've decided to post this
I've searched the forums and used google but couldn't find an explanation or fix. Today i've found a free program that formats the AAC wrapper, so that the file will play in all m4a players.
It's called: PutPinfInItsPlace. Full description here
It's a little java app, works with OSX and Windows.
According to the author, it doesn't do anything with the music, it just removes a tiny piece of the m4a wrapper that causes problems in some players. It also makes a backup of the original file before altering.
It works great! I can finally listen to all my iTunes music without recoding the files.
links:
Description page
Download page
Hi!
Can somebody confirm that this works?
My Brother has a Touch HD with Duttys WM6.1 image. It does not play a m4a directly from itunes and not the "fixed" one.
Bye
How can I watch digital copy movies in my sensation?
Only if the licensor is able to provide a digital certificate for the playback platform.
You can also rent and buy movies from the market and also htc watch. But not the market if you rooted because it will detect and not let you watch the movie you just paid for.
I haven't figured out how to change my username since I decided I like iPhone better than Android.
I want to copy my personal music collection onto my iPhone but when I tried to at the library by connecting the mp3 player and the iPhone to separate USB cables to the Windows computer, it wouldn't let me and later I found out from Apple that there is a restriction where you have to use iTunes. Because I don't have my own computer at home I was wondering if there are any alternatives, and someone at the Apple Store suggested that syncing the mp3s with iTunes may still not allow the playback of the mp3s if they weren't specifically purchased through Apple Music.
So what would be a good alternative way to transfer my music collection onto the iPhone? I tested a web-site in Google Chrome that is a YouTube to mp3 converter called "mp3 juices" that allows you to download audio from YouTube into mp3 files. It worked on iPhone and I was able to import mp3s into a music player app called the Audius Music Player. Since the Audius Music Player works in this way, I suppose I could copy all 12 GB of my music collection onto Google Drive and than download the songs one by one and than import them into the Audius Music Player app but I think this may be rather tedious to click to download on each individual song until I downloaded 12 GB of music. Also the free version of Audius Music Player says it has limits so I don't know if there would be a limitation on the amount of music that can be downloaded.
Would there be a way to save all the music album folders and files into one large zip file and unzip the music files onto the iPhone?
Another suggestion mentioned to me by someone is the VLC media player, but VLC on iPhone requires iTunes to sync the music into VLC media player and so I may want to get away from having to deal with iTunes.
Lol, I thought everything was easy on iPhones...
Try this.
Meh, I've used iPhones for work and I'll take my N10+'s over them any day.
DRM sucks... you are now part of the machine.
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I haven't figured out how to change my username since I decided I like iPhone better than Android.
I want to copy my personal music collection onto my iPhone but when I tried to at the library by connecting the mp3 player and the iPhone to separate USB cables to the Windows computer, it wouldn't let me and later I found out from Apple that there is a restriction where you have to use iTunes. Because I don't have my own computer at home I was wondering if there are any alternatives, and someone at the Apple Store suggested that syncing the mp3s with iTunes may still not allow the playback of the mp3s if they weren't specifically purchased through Apple Music.
So what would be a good alternative way to transfer my music collection onto the iPhone? I tested a web-site in Google Chrome that is a YouTube to mp3 converter called "mp3 juices" that allows you to download audio from YouTube into mp3 files. It worked on iPhone and I was able to import mp3s into a music player app called the Audius Music Player. Since the Audius Music Player works in this way, I suppose I could copy all 12 GB of my music collection onto Google Drive and than download the songs one by one and than import them into the Audius Music Player app but I think this may be rather tedious to click to download on each individual song until I downloaded 12 GB of music. Also the free version of Audius Music Player says it has limits so I don't know if there would be a limitation on the amount of music that can be downloaded.
Would there be a way to save all the music album folders and files into one large zip file and unzip the music files onto the iPhone?
Another suggestion mentioned to me by someone is the VLC media player, but VLC on iPhone requires iTunes to sync the music into VLC media player and so I may want to get away from having to deal with iTunes.
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You have to use iTunes. Don't have a computer? Get one. IPhones don't behave like android, it's either iTunes or you don't. They are more locked down.