Kinoma play - General Topics

has anyone actually used the kinoma play program on their phone there is an add for it here just wondering what others think of it

Yeah, i've tried Kinoma Play.
Good-looking player. But cant play movies.
U have to buy the pro version...

Plays almost anything.
I'm not sure what he's talking about it not playing movies. The only mobile format that I've had trouble with is AVI. I don't really undersatnd why it doesn't play it, but it doesn't. So I dl'd pocket Divx for those.
I use Kinoma for almost all of my YouTube watching, music listening, and picture viewing. I have an Audible account, so I use it to stream the morning paper every day, as well as audiobooks for the ride home. I also use it with my Orb software to stream music and movies from my home desktop. My only real complaint is that the menu system is kind of clunky. You have to press back, back, back to return to the main menu. There ought to be a shortcut to the main menu. Other than that, I'm very happy with it.
I did end up getting the paid version, but I didn't actually pay for it. They have a TrialPay link, so I signed up for a trial of RealPlayer, got the software, then cancelled the trial a couple days later.
Hope this helps your decision

If it can't play .avi files, I'd say that player sucks. Better check out Core Player first for your Pocket PC. Don't even waste your time.
I found this thread too, more information about it and the BUGS it has: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433026&highlight=kinoma+player

They don't support any type of AVI files, if you read through Kinoma's forum the creators say that it is too much trouble to support AVI due to all the variants of codec. They also state that most movies/TV shows that are pirated are in AVI format and they seem to be taking the moral highground over supporting it.
Very good as a music only player though, very swish interface.

I absolutely love Kinoma. I bought the pro version since.. well, I love it. I don't like watching movies on my phone AT ALL, so that's not a problem for me. The Internet radio feeds, podcasts and Flickr, Youtube, Audible, Orb, idisk and other features are awesome. I'd gladly pay for it again.

I love it! I only use Kinoma FreePlay because the Pro version offers me nothing more that I need. Ever since I installed it and found old MacGyver episodes, I've been doing a lot less work.
Dave

Also see my related remarks in my past articles.

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Podcast Player

I'm after a decent media player that is suited to playing podcasts. The problem I have at present, using WMP is most podcasts I listen to last over an hour, I listen to them on my way to work, which is about 50 minutes. This means I never listen to a whole show the way through, and then I have trouble remembering where I was up too...
So, long story short, I want a player that I can bookmark where I'm up to, or atleast that remembers where I'm up to. It would also be quite good if I can queue podcasts up, so when I'm wedged on the tube, I don't need to get my M5000 out to start the next one.
Oh yes, it needs to me WM5 compatible and preferably work in portait and landscape modes.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Search for Mortplayer. I d/l 3.5 hour podcasts and it works very well.

WMV plugin for WMP

A lot of movies are coming out with digital copies & they are all in WMV format but our players don't support it.
I tried searching but all I found was the plugin for TCPMP, which didn't work too well. Anyway I would like to know if there is a plugin for WMP on our phones? I have a few of these digital copies & I would like to put them on my storage card for those boring days at work. If anyone has a plugin or a solution, I would really appreciate it.
Where are the movies?? Anyways, CorePlayer should play them, about $25 directly from CoreCodec, which should be cheap for you judging by your avatar !
What are you talking about? Windows Media Player plays WMV files. it's already on your phone.
DarrenUtd said:
What are you talking about? Windows Media Player plays WMV files. it's already on your phone.
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Talking about certain codecs not included in WMP, so you need a different player. Most videos can't be played through WMP.
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to not have to buy anything new but you gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway, a new question... if I buy this coreplayer will it do everything tcpmp does or do I have to keep tcpmp on my Kaiser?
As far as the movies... I have Juno & AVPr right now but a lot of movies come with an extra disc right now that you can download it from... Look for it on the cover, it says digital copy right on it
Beast84 said:
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to not have to buy anything new but you gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway, a new question... if I buy this coreplayer will it do everything tcpmp does or do I have to keep tcpmp on my Kaiser?
As far as the movies... I have Juno & AVPr right now but a lot of movies come with an extra disc right now that you can download it from... Look for it on the cover, it says digital copy right on it
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Cool, I have to check out my friend's DVD collection . Anyways, CorePlayer does all the main functions of TCPMP, but a bit better, and I personally like the looks of it better. It has the YouTube function built-in, but currently you have a limited number of results, so if your looking for a specific video, you must type a lot. I use CorePlayer as my main video player, and still keep TCPMP with the FLV bundle to watch video directly from the web.
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Cool, I have to check out my friend's DVD collection . Anyways, CorePlayer does all the main functions of TCPMP, but a bit better, and I personally like the looks of it better. It has the YouTube function built-in, but currently you have a limited number of results, so if your looking for a specific video, you must type a lot. I use CorePlayer as my main video player, and still keep TCPMP with the FLV bundle to watch video directly from the web.
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Sweet I been reading up on it since you suggested it & I'm sold on it now. Thanks I hope it plays these movies. I'll let you know as soon as I got it all set up
WACK!!! Same thing as tcpmp... Granted, it looks better but its the same outcome. The video will start but it won't play. It starts loading & then it stays like that forever. Occassionally it plays a clip of the sound but only a fraction of a second
Any tips for the settings to change Champ?

Dynamic/Smart playlists in WMP on Mobile (or on an alternative player)

Hi everyone,
As you know WMP has an "Auto playlist" option that lets you create playlists on a set of rules. However, when it syncs it to the WMP mobile, they turn to regular playlists.
E.g if I have a playlist that is "Not played in last 5 days" and I play some songs from it on the WMP Mobile, all the songs will still be there. Is there a way for truly dynamic playlist on WMP Mobile? If not, what other player you know that supports this feature?
Thanks!
I'd love this feature as a way to create a playlist that stays filled with the latest podcasts downloaded from RSS Hub -- and ideally that deletes the ones I've listened to. Any suggestions?
Yeah I've been really disappointed with the media player features as well as the alternative media players in winmo. I hate having to carry my earbuds as well as a jabra bluetooth dongle, so I've switched back to carrying both an ipod and my phone. I'd pay $100 for a decent player with similar features to my ipod touch or my wife's zune.
Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.
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Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.
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I'll try that out; looks like it has a 30-day trial. I've been playing with Mortplayer, and it does at least some of what I'm looking for, for free.
Pocket Player's finger-friendly library is great: it has smooth flick scrolling, handles large libraries (2000+ tracks) effortlessly and is very customizable. Hope you like it too.
Try out Kinoma's Player. Not sure if this one does what you're trying to do, but there is a free version and so far in my use of it, is ridiculously cool. Also supports Orb.com and other streaming content providers, has RSS podcasts that will stream in (not sure if there's a way to download them to the device, again, haven't been using it very long).
http://kinoma.com/freeplay/download/
I've been playing with the Conduits Pocket Player trial and the Kimona FreePlay, which is a crippled version of the full Kimona Player. It's hard to compare them, because Pocket Player is a 30-day trial of the full version, whereas all of the relevant features are turned off in Kimona's free version.
Pocket Player does everything I need. It's great.
Kimona FreePlay's interface, though, is fantastic. If the full version does everything Pocket Player does -- dynamic smart playlists, especially -- it would probably be better than Pocket Player.
(I listen to podcasts on my 30-minute drive to work. Pocket Player has a smart playlist called "recently added", which stays full of various podcasts I subscribe to through RSS Hub -- which is great for one-tap skipping ahead and so forth while I'm driving).
A year has passed.
Has anyone come up with something less clunky for Windows Mobile smart playlists of podcasts (automatically or on demand download new episodes, add to playlist and delete old episodes) than using having to deal with using 2 different apps?
Seems like a really common request that's being ignored for Windows Mobile while good apps are made for Andorid, Blackberry and iPhone.
Even Stitcher.com has elected to make apps for every major smartphone OS except Windows Mobile.

Best Music player for HD2?

Hi,
I would like to know which music player is best for playing music on HD?
I looking for someone good player as Ipod or as build on sence, good-looking and have good management also..
Please give me some tips..
THX
I prefer Kinoma Play.
Others you can try are Nitrogen, S2P, Pocketplayer, Mortplayer, Pocketmusic.
I use Kinoma Free Play. It's really good.
Nitrogen
Nitrogen is the best player!
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I prefer Kinoma Play.
Others you can try are Nitrogen, S2P, Pocketplayer, Mortplayer, Pocketmusic.
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Looking good but there you can play lot off thing's i wont only for music for rest i have coreplayer but picasa upload ets not bad too..
Big fan op pocketplayer here...
Kinoma Play by far....
I more and more like the built in HTC music player.
To my mind, mort player ist the best. wvga is supported by many skins it's got mp3 alarm (that works), mp3 and ogg support and it is freeware.
here is the dl:
http://mortplayer.softonic.de/pocketpc
I found S2P and this is not so bad..
I used to use Nitrogen but started to get pauses in the playback for a couple of seconds at a time. With Nitrogen installed these occurred in both the built in Music Player and Nitrogen itself. As soon as I removed it though these pauses also disappeared. Now I use the built in Music Player until I find something better that is also finger friendly.
I would like to ask, which player can support AVRCP on HD2?
Nowadays i get back to buld-in music player.. I didn't found any player to be better..
Probably a stupid question but can I still access the built in htc music player if I have SPB shell installed?
Also, why is Kinoma player described as Free? I thought it was a program you have to pay for?
If you want the best equalizer (you have to pump up the low frequencies in order to get a good bass), best bass level (the best for Rock and Metal music) and a very good UI, you should go for Pocket Player. It has tons of functions (playlists and a lot more organizing functions) and it's the most function oriented music player. It works perfectly with the headset (its buttons) when you install the WMP plugin (something you don't get with the other players) . If you use it combined with the AudioBooster of the phone, the sound will be perfect.
But if you want something simple to use, use PocketMusic (the equalizer is horrible, but the bass booster is very good) or Nitrogen. MortPlayer isn't bad. But it can be difficult to use and it's a heavy program.
So there you have it.
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Probably a stupid question but can I still access the built in htc music player if I have SPB shell installed?
Also, why is Kinoma player described as Free? I thought it was a program you have to pay for?
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There's a free version called "Kinoma Free Play". It works great for music with no real limitations (except for upgrade ads at startup).
nitrogen is very basic, but does the job. PocketPlayer is without a doubt the best player out there though.
Thanks Nsider
I've tried it now and kinoma keeps hanging when it's scanning through my media on the storage card so I've not actually been able to test it. It's the same video it gets stuck on so I could remove it I guess but not much use if that happens whenever there is a file it doesn't like.
Tried Pocket Player and while it looks like it'd do the job ok it seems REALLY slow to run & respond. Any reason why this would be?
Pocket Player is slow at the first time you run it. Because it searches for your MP3 files and it makes an index of them. Therfor it is slow only for 3-5 minutes. After that, it's very fast and smooth. If you have a class 2 memory card, install Pocet Player on your device memory.
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Thanks Nsider
I've tried it now and kinoma keeps hanging when it's scanning through my media on the storage card so I've not actually been able to test it. It's the same video it gets stuck on so I could remove it I guess but not much use if that happens whenever there is a file it doesn't like.
Tried Pocket Player and while it looks like it'd do the job ok it seems REALLY slow to run & respond. Any reason why this would be?
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Builtin HTC media player in my books, could do with a few tweaks tho, like search/letters down the side. On Coverflo the albums should be ordered alphabetically. Other than that its perfect! I have about 14gb worth of music and it handles it perfectly.
Other than that, I would also go with PocketPlayer, its really good, loved using that on my Diamond.

Music Setup

I don't think there is a lot of discussion about this, so I thought i would start one. Good evening, my name is Gregg and I am a recovering Ioser. It started out with just an ipod...you know it was convenient, it was shiny. It worked well. Buying music was a simple process. You clicked and could listen immediatly. At first it was just occasionally, but I got into the podcast scene and itseemed to fit me perfectly. Podcasts would let me listen to things while I was doing chores around the house. Eventually though podcasts on my ipod weren't enough for me. I also had to carry around a phone on the side, so I decided that maybe it would be OK to try a little iphone. The first click was awesome...phone and tunes...podcasts done well. I was hooked.
For two years I was doing a lot of Ios, but eventually the shiny IOS had me hooked. There were bills for apps that did nothing but make funny noises, their was music that I paid for but never listened to. I was hooked. I probably hit rock-bottom last year. My iosing was out of control and I thought I would go cold turkey. So I got my G2x.
Sorry for the goofy intro, but I though this would set me up a bit. Here's what I have itunes on the windows side. So getting music and podcasts from itunes to the g2X involves multiple layers.
1. Moving music to the machine.
2. Moving and managing podcasts
3. Playing and managing music (which includes playing, rating music and searchng through my music)
So I will start with the first question. From what I understand there are really two ways that I know of to move music and podcasts from itunes to your phone. One is doubletwist, the other is isyncr. There might be others, but these are the two that I worked with. of the two I went with iSyncr and here's why. Doubletwist has a lot going for it. Really a nice interface, and a nice music player on the android side. Its trying very hard to give me, an ex-ioser a bit of what I am missing. The sync app looks like itunes and allows me to sync my playlists. The app looks a lot like itunes. It plays music fine. The player struggled with my phone, though. Somehow it didn't cooperate with the cm7 ROM I am using. It wouldn't play well on the lock screen and seemed buggy. The syncing was buggy too. Genius podcasts wouldn't refresh when they changed on my itunes. There were workaround(relaunch itunes and doubletwist).
Isyncr is a 2.99 purchase. Its simple. You install the app on the android(you pretty much install and forget it) and it syncs when you launch the windows EXE on the memory card when the phone is docked to the computer. It works well. It syncs podcasts, and ratings. To me, that was important because I have this theory that I will rate my music into organization in itunes.Its flawless. I haven't tried the wifi setup, but I might in the future. It doesn't play your music, so its just a solution for syncing.
As for podcasts, I tried very hardto find a solution on the android side that will satisfy my needs right on the android. I bought the full version of pocketcasts. There are a lot of good things going for it, but there are bugs. One that was kind of a deal breaker was that if you try to advance the podcast in the player while its playing you lock up the app. Restart is the only solution. So, it was a good, pretty solution, but it had to go. I tried a couple other apps, but I wasn't sold.
So, ultimately, isyncr is my solution for podcasts too. It woks well, but it will require a daily sync. The advantage ultimatley of syncing from the desktop is also that I am able to make Mp3 CDs of podcasts as well as sync my podcasts from the same source. Simple, efficient and workable.
Which brings me to playing. I love google music(I have two more invites if anyone wants one), and it allows me to access my music when I am around wifi seamlessly. It allows me to make instant mixes based on a song. That's a killer feature. Combined with wireless access to all my music via the cloud its excellent. Advancing and moving within tracks and podcasts works well. Its not a full-feature app, but it works.
Almost there, there is one last aspect. I would like to rate music from my library while its playing. Isyncr has a nice widget that allows you to rate and see your playing apps and see the album art. Its part of the package. The ratings and playcounts go right back to itunes.
My preferences represent my unique quirks in terms of music and listening: I am a podcaster and a music listener and I prefer to rate my music. Because of this I am happy with: Isyncr and google music.
Long set-up, but ultimately I am asking you what your music listening setup is. Thoughts?
I use the standard music app since it has DTS for the g2x. Google music as well for some streaming music. Google Listen app for podcasts. I also like BeyondPod.
I drag and drop music. It's not fancy but I don't mind.
Power Amp with some EQ modifications and Voodoo Sound is how I enjoy my music. I used to use Doubletwist for syncing my music to my phone, but each update made more and more bloated, along with random freezes, so I just uninstalled it. Sony's Media Go software good is good for adding music, but I prefer to drag and drop into organized folders.
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If you're using a stock ROM, I'd recommend sticking to the stock player because of it's DTS feature. It greatly improves sound quality if you have it selected.

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