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I have MDA on T_Mobile UK and would like to upgrade to the latest rom but am confused by so many posts and different lanuages.
Could anyone just tell me
1) How to back my rom up incase of problems
2) How to get the latest english rom with the patch for more memory
3) How to install it
4) How to put all the t-mobile settings back ie GPRS etc
TIA
I have an MDA Compact from T-Mobile UK and I upgraded with the Q-Tek 1.11 ROM doing the rounds. I forgot all about the ext rom, but after I upgraded I restored a full backup I had created using Sprite Backup. I asked on this forum if restoring the backup negated the ROM upgrade in any way, but no-one seemed to know. Anyway, all the T-Mobile customisation came back and there have been no problems since.
AS soon as I can get a proper T-Mobile ROM I will upgrade with this.
hi mate after you restored your backup did you still have the qtek rom on the phone?
Yes. I get the qtek splash screen when I reboot, and if I go to 'Device Information' I get this:
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/14/05
Radio version: 1.11.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.01.128 WWE
Hi
Thanks for the reply how did you do the update was there any error messages that need to be ignored?
Also going to use sprite backup later have you got any tips?
Thanks
Not really - the whole thing was completely painless for me. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
Sprite Backup is great - I get it to automatically backup my PDA to an SD card each night so I always have an up-to-date backup.
Is there a trial version of sprite backup of do I have to buy it?
What instructions did you follow would be good to just do the same as you as it work rather than me stuffing it up.
Thanks
scgf said:
Not really - the whole thing was completely painless for me. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
Sprite Backup is great - I get it to automatically backup my PDA to an SD card each night so I always have an up-to-date backup.
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cool whats your phone like now? is it any better?
My MDA Compact is really no different after the upgrade - it would be useful to know exactly what should be better. I still can't send files to it using bluetooth.
Last night I re-did the ROM upgrade but this time I reinstalled all my apps and only used Sprite to restore documents etc. rather than the whole system. I think this is a better way forward, although on Sprite's website there is a section on how to correctly use Sprite Backup to restore after a ROM upgrade - have a look at http://tinyurl.com/dhzrp
I downloaded a T-Mobile UK CAB file which adds back all the T-Mobile settings without the garish pink colour scemes.
The instructions I followed are in this thread http://tinyurl.com/863qt - as you work through you will get an idea of what to do. In there somewhere I seem to remember someone posted a simple guide.
I have a qtek s100 rom buymobiles.net or something like that.
I used the program to hack your own rom for Extended storage - made a safe backup first to keep on my PC, just in case, hacked the ROM, flashed it back on the phone and it worked fine. There are a number of error messages that come up, but they're all to be expected, but do follow the instructions carefully and they'll put your mind at ease.
After the flash, you get 27mb of "Storage" instead of the previous 7mb. I've got a 1gig card so it doesn't make much difference to me, but it's useful, and worth doing at the start so you don't have to re-install everything if you do bite the bullet later and apply the hacked ROM.
The hacked ROM will be a copy of your own ROM, so nothing will change ROMwise, however, I foolishly overlooked the fact that that space comes from somewhere, in this case it wipes out the intellidialer and some other gubbins. I had no backup of these, but forunately it's all stored away on the XDA developers FTP. Someone more informed than I can correct me, but I think the only files you really need to reinstall are the intellidialer. Also squirrel out the cab that contains settings for your network, orange, O2 etc (i haven't found these, they're on XDA developers somewhere bu i forgot where! Drop me a line if you find them...)
Once you've done that - well, your phone is pretty much as it originally was, but with a bit more storage for free. not a bad thing.
I would flash the ROM and then reinstall rather than doing a Sprite Backup/Restore, since the registry will be in a very different state after the ROM flash. However, i don't think it'll do any harm.
Sprite Backup is certainly worth getting hold of, and keep a copy of your backup on an SD card and your PC in case your phone gets 'half inched'.
Hope that helps.
Vijay
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Try this site for uk gprs network settings
http://www.buymobilephones.net/smartphone_setup.ihtml
Hope this is hat you were after???
also......pls could you tell me .....
what rom version did you use for your upgrade?
how does the phone benefit from upgrading, in terms of "real world" use?
can you upgrade the storage to the stated 20+mb without upgrading the rom version?
can you use any rom from any country from any model and network or do you have to find an exact match eg UK T mob MDA compact?
sorry for the million questions...i have been reading this site for days and have ended up dazed and confused....
riz- there's a tool that will modify any normal rom to the extended rom version.
Extended Rom provides you with a pseudo "Storage Card" called "Storage". if you check the control panel > system > memory > storage you should have about 7mb. Using the extended rom hack, you will hack 27mb, at pretty much no cost to you; this is very useful for storing backups, installation files, photos etc, or anything that you never want to lose, since this space is usable by you, but won't be lost if the phone runs out of battery at any time (unlike the phone's normal memory, that will be wiped if there's a prolonged loss of power). Although using a big SD card is an even better way to do this, it's useful to get teh 27mb for free if it's available i think.
To get the 27mb, find the tool in the upgrading magician forum to hack any rom to bigrom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22582&highlight=anansky+rom.
Then, use the backup procedure described on that page to copy your own ROM from your phone to your pc. (you'll need an SD card and a card reader to do this). make a backup of that file
Then, use the prog to hack your own rom, then flash it back to your phone. Then your phone will have exactly the same rom as it had before, but better. You will lose some of the guff that was there before, but as i said perviously, this can all be downloaded from XDA forums.
So, I heartily recommended this just for the convenience of being able to store backups etc securely etc..
V
thanks for the very indepth instructions... still a bit scared to try it ...only got the phone yesterday....prob wait another hour or so...he he he
thanks again......
hope that link was useful??
any experience on using dual sim...the type you cut up???
I have finally done the 1.11 upgrade and all working fine thanks for your help. I have also noticed theat 1.12 is out now !!! going to wait for some feeback before trying it.
solarsystems said:
I have finally done the 1.11 upgrade and all working fine thanks for your help. I have also noticed theat 1.12 is out now !!! going to wait for some feeback before trying it.
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Are there any notable differences between your old rom version and the 1.11.?? I hear the 1.12 has been received with mixed reception…
thanks
Thanks for the cab settings!
Yeah, I guess you might as well patch directly to 1.12, although it's annoying that there's no update history etc to show what's been "improved"!.
I've just bitten the bullet and ordered the ebuyer SD wireless card (£26 delivered, 50% cheaper than ebay!). Hope it's ok, quite worried about it. But, when i did the Big Rom I had this in mind - although my main card is 1gig, obviously I'll have to pop it out to use the sd. so, I can keep essential apps in the 27mb, rather than feeling cramped in 7mb. Makes sense, no?
V
MDA on O2
Hi there,
I have just bought an unlocked MDA compact but can't get it to work on O2!
Can anyone help me?
Cheers,
Evan
I have an unlocked MDA connected to Tesco Mobile (actually uses the O2 network) and it works fine.
What exactly is the problem ?
Stu
Stu,
Thanks for your reply.
The MDA that I have seems to be unlocked as I have it on Orange at the moment, but, when I put my O2 sim card in it just says that there is no service!
Evan
The only thing that springs to mind is that Orange is on a different frequency to O2 so maybe you need to check the network preferences to make sure that it is set to automatic.
Stu
hi,
Having just purchased my M500 today im a noob to all things magician and m500!
Looking around this interesting site i notice a lot of talk about big storage. Sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is big storage?
Lets say i di the big storage thing......would i then loose my current orange rom on my device?
Is it easy to do? I've updated the rom on my c500 and that was straight fwd, can sombody explaain to m500 noob, but is willing to learn!
luvin the site.
I have a m500, and i have changed the original rom (as suplied with the m500) to bigstorage.
It wipes out the hidden partion that is used to brand the phone and increases the "storage" partion (which as default is around 7mb) to 27mb, the only downside is that the branding apps that are hidden are no longer on your device.
This means that when you hard reset the device you will have to manualy choose the files to install.
Imp
Thats a great explanation, thanks.
I've been messing around so far, and i think i understand the whole process. Coudl you just confirm this for me?
I have downloaded the big storage rom WWE.111 from the ftp and swapped the first 416bytes in hex editor with the first 416bytes from my rom which i've got from my ohone. i then load the edited WWE.111 big storage rom back into my m500 using the sd card method. An that will give me a bigstorage rom?
could somebody post the extrom of the m500 please ?
thanks
M500 Rom upgrade
I have been trying to upgrade it to 1.12 ROM, however when I used ntrw to write it onto my SD card, it said parameter incorrect, then when I flash my M500, it said Check Sum error. Any remedy? Also has anyone tried the Radio 1.13?
EggZenBeanz, thats right. should give you bigstorage....remember to ignore the error messages on your phone after you copy the rom from your sd card.
Dutty, there is already the orange m500 ext rom on the ftp site.
vz7, they are the same errors that i got when i big rom'ed mine (even tho i am still on rom 1.06 (not worried in upgrading the rom as yet)
as i said in the other post, i upgraded to 1.13 radio rom last night with no problem.
EDIT
if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
Thankyou for clearing these things up. As the post suggested im a noob to all this, so i wanted to get it clear in my mind on top of reading all the tuts i could find.
So, when the rom hack has been applied and is working. i get 25mb extra storage, and i should loose all the clearview stuff etc.. Thats cool cheers.
Impossible said:
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if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
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I wouldn't mind a discription of the cabs on the rom as im just about to "Go large".
I wouldn't mind a list of what each file does either - I'd thought about doing a big storage hack on my m500, but there wasn't anything available last time I checked.
Presumably I can copy all the files for the storage area onto my SD card, and save them for later?
Where abouts is the ROM on the ftp site? I couldn't see anything that specifically mentions the m500...
Edit - OK, I think I understand now...I found a useful guide that I followed.
The only problem is, I've only got a 1gb sd card, so the hex editor won't open the rom image after I've dumped it! Is there any way around this, or do I need to get 128mb card?
The file of the descriptions is a bit scruffy atm, i will tidy it up and post it again soon here. (scruffy file attached to this post, you need to be logged into the forums to dl'ed it)
the path to the m500 ext rom is ..... i cant connect to the ftp atm.
I backed up the ext rom on my desktop pc, and put the vital cabs on a sd card that i have spare and keep in my wallet, just incase the rom resets.
I had a similar problem to dan13l when i dumped the rom, the ntrw.exe app is a bit of a pig, as it dumps a image of the sd card, and not of the actual rom.... i used a 256mb card, i suppose you could partion the 1gig card to around 256mb then try it out?
something that i didnt read was, when performing the rom dump, is that the sd card will be fully erased during dump. So back it up if you need the data on it.
one word about one of the cabs in the ext rom, OrangeUK_ActionE_Connection.cab is a odd one. It encloses some apps that i didnt like installed on my m500 but it has the gprs settings inside it, i have managed to pull these out and put them in there own cab. This helps prevent installing the annoying "action" programs
Imp
Thanks for that Impossible.
I noticed you've mentioned another MMS version in that text file, is there an updated mms app somewhere?
I found the ext rom on the ftp - that'll come in handy I'm sure.
There appears to be three ways of applying the big storage hack:
1) Apply a rom with Big Storage already hacked into it. This involves copying the first chunk of the standard rom using a hex editor and pasting it over the new rom. Correct?
2) Manually edit two bits of hex on a dumped rom, and reflash using the modified version.
3) Run a tool against a dumped rom to make the changes for you.
Now, I was working towards 2 until I had my sd card problem. I'm going to buy a 256mb card on my way home tonight and try with that. Am I right in thinking that if I dump my m500's rom, then apply the hex changes, that rom could be used for all m500's? As I understand it, option 1 is only relevent if you're applying a rom from one device to another (so a Jam to an M500, for example)?
So, in theory, once one of us has managed to modify the m500 rom (as you've done already, Impossible) then that rom image could be uploaded and used on all m500's? Also, if someone uploads an unmodified m500 rom, that could be used to revert back later if needs be...
Is all this correct? I think I'm starting to get my head around things.
the comments in the cab file description are a bit funny, its my own personal scrall that i found out over the test i did on the cabs, i think i found newer vesions on the ftp and installed these apps instead of the ones that orange comes with, and the "about" on the app confirmed this.
I will revisit the file soon and tidy it up making it more helpful.
i dumped my m500 rom (with the intention of keeping the 1.06 version that came with my m500) then i used mksBigStoragerENG.exe to patch it to bigstorage.
If anyones intrested in me uploading the 1.06 rom with big storage i will, but you have to remember that this has not got any orange branding on. the next step if you did use this rom would be to apply the choosen cab files to apply the settings/apps you want.
Also, i dont mind uploading the original rom (complete with the ext rom) but i think that was on there when i last looked at the ftp.
dan13l, i did just realise, even if you formated your 1gig card to a smaller size, the dump will clear that out
prehaps you could find a different hex editor? or even use the mksBigStoragerENG.exe app that I used to patch mine, instead of a editor (which reverts the rom file from your storage card size, back down to its original size of around 62mb)
Imp
Yay! It worked
Now I just need to reinstall everything.
I'll post everything I did later, got to go and eat something now!
Impossible - thanks for your help. Do you have the GPRS settings you extracted? I don't want to have to install the whole action engine thing...
Thanks again all.
All sorted - I managed to extract the gprs settings myself and create a cab.
FYI - the latest MMS app I found was dated May, and doesn't appear to work on the m500. I've not tried the March version yet.
GPRS settings etc are available on buymobilephones.net
V
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
can someone post the link to the orange extrom - i can't find the ftp....
cheers
al
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Magician/Extended_Roms/M500_WWE1.06.175/
Methanoid said:
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
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Go to the link posted by sporkguy and download everything - that's the contents of your extended rom.
Next, go here: http://tinyurl.com/dhgoc
That's about the best guide I've found (although there are a couple of good ones on this site). Follow the steps on there to use the mksBigStorager executable to patch your rom.
I think it would be possible to upload a pre-patched rom image for the m500 to the ftp, and simply write that to an sd card (using the last section of the guide linked to above).
Please can you take a loo at this screen grab. What do i stand to gain from the storage hack? This piccy is pre storage hack.
Hiya, was looking for software and stuff for the SPV M500, and found all this stuff about BigStorage, so here I am.
All seems fairly straight forward, but I can't seem to find any working links to the WWE_1.11.zip BigStorage ROM (the ftp doesn't connect, and all other links both here and elsewhere seem unavailable or corrupt). Does anyone know where I can obtain this file, please?
Also, before I flash this 'phone, how do I get the original CABs on my PC/SD card, to reinstall the applications I need to put back on, and discard the usual Orange bloaters that I don't need?
Thanks in advance.
HalibutMcGaffigan - if you're happy with your rom, the best idea might be to backup your own rom and use the generic bigstorage rom hack to hack that, and then flash it back onto your own phone. That way, you're sure of no incompatibilities, and no messing around with hex editors.
To get your cabs off, find the extended rom indexing site, or use the technique of softreseting just after you've reflashed and finished aligning the screen.
V
Hi
Problably lots of people already asked this. Believe it or not, I searched the forum and i didnt sow that many information about it. I have a mda compact customized with t-mobile software. Basacly I want to take the T-mobile Stuff out, it dosnt even let me set up a gprs account for another operator.
Any help would be thankfull
Ivo
your best bet would be to get the device unlokcke, ( see the unlock tool in the general section of the forun for the unkocl all in one tool) and then upgrade the rom with that of an imate's or qtek's
hope that helps
Jim
Hi
thanks for quick reply.
I unlocked it already. Its just the t-mob crap i want to get rid off. where about can i donload the roms ?
thanks
found the solution ...
just upgraded it with an original firmware and the no_id file
thanks for the help
Ivo
...and where can i find the original firmware and the no_id file? :?:
I would like to have my Orange m500 clean too! Only with the applications i'd like to use.
Can this only be done with installing those extendedRoms? Its very difficult for me to find a clear tutorial about this.
regards
The ext-rom brands your magician. When you want to get rid of it just
- make a backup of calendar, contacts, tasks etc.
- hard-reset
- folow initialize procedure on screen
- soft-reset as soon as you get the standard WM background & before the customizatiin (=branding) starts.
You need to do this last step after every hard-reset unless you go for BIG Storage & completely wipe-out the ext-rom & get a storage folder of 27Mb instead of 7Mb.
Instructions for BS are to be found on the forum. No need to search for a special rom, you can do it with your current rom.
Cheers, M
thnx @ oltp
I'll give it a try
Hi, I have 3 questions:
1) I've looked around a lot, but can't seem to catch hold of a chinese language for my vox...Its called Dopod rom right?? Where can I get the files and instructions??
2) Does a ROM (when dumped) contain absolutely everything that is on the phone and if flashed on another phone will be a "duplicate" of original phone??
3) I've found the wiki on how to dump my rom, but how would I be able to re-flash it onto another phone??
Thanks guys
Wow somebody who actually read the Wiki before posting - nice
1.It's on the ftp. But look at the stuff that is written in the Wiki, about no Wifi and so on.
2.Nope it isn't it's only the operating system and all the software that comes with it! So no contacts or appointments or other files you put on. When you do a hard reset, you would see what all comes with the ROM! (but don't do it, it'll wipe all your data)!
3.You would have to put it into the kitchen and try to cook a new ROM out of the dump, but look around on the ftp first, there are a lot of shipped ROMs, yours is probably there too!
I can't seem to locate the Dopod wiki... But are there ANY ROMs that can handle chinese text without sacrificing the wifi function??
In terms of the shipped ROMs folder - I couldnt find my one and besides, I'd like to have one with all my programs on. So where can I find easy to follow (I'm a newbie on all this) instructions on cooking and creating a ROM??
(Is this thread the right one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 ) ???
Thanks for your help