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Cannot HardSPL Treo 750

Hi. Looks like Treo 750 forums are almost dead nowadays. But if someone can point me out in the right direction I'll really appreciate it.
I have a Treo 750, it came with WM5, I updated it to WM6 around a year ago. I did an official update, the one we were able to get from the Palm website. I've been very unhappy with it lately. Even after some hard resets, the thing is just slow sometimes, and I would just like to try one of those cooked ROM and see if I can get a some performance improvement, small or not.
So, I found this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345748
The thread was posted a long time ago so it might be old. If you can point out to newer and/or better cooked/lite roms, thanks .
So, anyway, first step according to everyone is to install HardSPL. And this is as far as I can go. I'm using CheetahUnlocker.exe found in these boards. I put my treo in bootloader mode, then run CheetahUnlocker. Start step 1. But when it is trying to the update, where you see the progress bar, it goes straight to 100%, and then it fails with an error message 207, saying that the image is corrupted. The Treo itself reboots back to the OS.
I've been reading and reading for hours and I haven't been able to do this. I even follow some steps regarding Vista drivers, but that didn't work either. I tried it in XP at work and it didn't work. I always get the same error. I'm seriously lost and I would really like to try a lite ROM.
Is there any other way I can try to install hard spl? Can it be installed via the SD card method. Also, I could just go ahead and install the cooked rom via the SD card method but I wouldn't like to risk my phone that way.
When I reset my phone with the Media button pressed, first I get the tri-color screen for less than 1 sec, then I get a gray window with blue letters that says "Loading" for a few secs, and then I'm back to the try color screen that says:
"Palm Tr
IPL-0.20
Palm Tr
SPL-0.24.0000"
Any ideas? Please I really need help.

No one? I really need help flashing the HardSPL. I thought about trying to install the hardspl via SD, but I read it wouldn't work. Any ideas?

hi, do you format the SD in FAT32 and 512 bytes in your PC??? you must do this before copy de cheeimg.nbh file to SD.

not sure if this is too late but mine was doing the same thing. I switched to a lower capacity SD card and it worked fine. 2GB or less.

I have the same problem, just the 3 collor screen...nothing else. Any ideas??? Please...

HARDSPL success or failure how to tell?

Hello First all I am a new owner but I have tried looking for answers elsewhere with out much success. If I can be pointed else please let me know and I will look further.
If not I beg indulgence,
I have tried several times to do the clearing of the ATT stuff on my phone by using HARDSPL but I am not sure if it done? I do not notice any change at this point.
Here is what I have done
I installed the active sync on my computer and then plugged my phone into the USB connection cables to my system and achieved connection at least according to my computer.
I then browse to the HARDSPL (RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe) and execute it. It says that it takes about 10 minutes
It goes through the standard checks which I agree to and then it verifies for itself.
The first time it seemed to go good but the whole thing took less than 15 seconds and it said installation 100% and I had to exit
But when the phone was turned on there was no visible change
So I thought it actually failed
Subsequent attempts have followed this scenario
I achieve active sync with my PC and am connected to it
I browse to the HARDSPL mentioned above and execute it
Then the screen on my FUZE goes blank and after a little while I get an unrecognized device connection from Windows
After a few more minutes I get a message from the HARDSPL install that the connection was lost and I have no choice but to exit
The phone usually will not turn back on until I remove and put back the battery then the phone turns on normally with no visual change noticable.
So I still do not think that it succeeded
So I tried this
I have a 4G SD card and I created a folder called HARDSPL and put the files opened when I execute the self extracting file above into this folder
I browse to it and excute the file from the phone itself.
Again the screen goes blank after a few seconds and I waited at least 30 minutes now this time the only thing that is different is that the phone seemed to get real warm. Then it cooled back down
After I turned the phone on again it seemed no different.
I was expecting all of my content to disappear(contacts songs) but they are still there when I look at the ROM it says this
ROM version 1.95.502.5 WWE
ROM date 10/20/08
Radio Version 1.02.25.32
PROTOCOL 52.39c.25.22H
Now after thinking about this maybe the HARD SPL is only the first step
Maybe the HARDSPL worked and I need to now LOAD a new ROM and then my phone will be clean
The part that confuses me is the process never quite worked as I was expecting it to so I am unclear if it succeeded or failed
Is there a way to see if the HARDSPL actually succeeded or not and if it did not HOW can do it successfully
I am trying to do things exactly as others have done because I do not want a BRICKED phone so I am a bit confused at this point as to what to do next
I would GREATLY appreciate any and all help with this

Boot to tri-color. It will tell you the SPL version. HardSPL will have OliNex signature. Check noob section in Wiki for how to boot to tri-color.

Thank you I powered down and held the volume down while turning the phone on and I came up with the following:
RAPH110
SPL-190.OliNex
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC-RAPH STAGE_CUT v0x36
so I assume that HARDSPL worked and now I can go about loading a new ROM
I was thinking about RRE 5.8 21042 with Manilla. Is this a good choice to begin with or would anyone suggest anything else

There aren't any good answers for ROMs. Maybe you might want to try cooking one for yourself. Ervius' PkgToolsBuildOs kitchen makes it simple now. Locate Da_G's simple ROM kitchen thread for a place to start.

I would suggest Da G's 6.5 ROM. If you want TF3D then use the kitchen for the 6.5 ROM

thanks for help guys
Which process in my original post, in anyones opinion, was the one that actually worked to get HARDSPL on my phone

The first thing you did was good enough for the HardSPL.
Good Luck and Have fun with the ROMs

jjanes0918 said:
Which process in my original post, in anyones opinion, was the one that actually worked to get HARDSPL on my phone
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It only takes about 30 seconds to flash hard spl (10 min is how long a full ROM takes, the utility doesn't know what you're flashing, it says that every time); you did it correctly, so it's time to move on. Flash a bunch of different roms. Do 10 a day. Knock yourself out and have fun.

assassin82492 said:
I would suggest Da G's 6.5 ROM. If you want TF3D then use the kitchen for the 6.5 ROM
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Still experimental though. Long list of bugs still but vc taste of the new OS.

jjanes0918 said:
I was thinking about RRE 5.8 21042 with Manilla. Is this a good choice to begin with or would anyone suggest anything else
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Just getting started I would either go with RRE or RomeOS. Both are good stable roms. Keep in mind though that ALL roms on here are somewhat experimental and are prone to bugs and other issues.
You may want to also read this thread as well as both links in my signiture. When you do flash a new rom please read the thread for that rom in its entirety (I know they are long) so that you know what issues are already discussed or solved and do not ask about something that has already been handled.

Thanks again all
a few questions but first a ROM listing I have in place now:
LocateCaller2r2.cab
netcallerid.cab
both these are really cool one lets you get city and state info before you answer
the other give pretty detailed info after including believe it or not relatives of the caller I tried from my parents phone to my cell and all of my brothers and my sister and even my ex wife showed up in a text message after the call was finished. WOH!
nitrogen-0.2.1-wm6-vga.cab
rre
touch pro
touchresponse
voice speed
have had the chance to try all of these out yet but so far so good now to the questions it seems that my zoom capability (moving around the large central button while a web page is being shown)is missing now. I understand that when I took off the AT&T stuff i would need to reload things. So I am not disappointed
but if some one knows what ROM I could load to get that back it would be great the version of RRE I loaded came with Manilla
So question 2 If I needed to say get rid of a certain MOD say the nitrogen MOD listed above how is that done Do I start over with the base MODS again and thenn simply not load it this time around or is there a simple way to unload a particular ROM.
Why is the 50% battery requirement in place is that just a safeguard against the phone going dead within 10 minutes.
What exactly does the HARDSPL do I found all kinds of stuff on why to use it and threads on how to do it and what to do after you do it and I know you can put the original ROMS back on the phone for warranty issues but how does it work?
Please forgive the NOOB questions hopefully I will graduate soon

No letters anymore, only digits...

Hello people,
I suppose this problem isn't directly concerning only my Topaz, that's why i place this threat in general forum.
Since about two hours my device hasn't got any letters! Sent a mms to a friend, everything was fine. Later tried to write my girl, but only numbers/digits show up in the editor... I don't know what I have done... Maybe some more informations would be helpful. I flashed a different ROM to my device, but I think that isn't the problem. I haven't had used Tweak HD before, then the problem showed up and everything a found was because of this program. So I installed it, activated T9, then disabled it, but the problem is still there. I get this problem, when I use the normal phone keypad.
Could anybody help please?
THX
Alex
Can be closed!!! After the fourth or fifth softreset, it works again. Didn't change anything. But for whatever reason it works now.

bricked roger's magic, desp for help.

Well, I finally did it yet still not rooted and stuch at rogers screen have read alln the threads anbd oddly some fastboot cmds work other sdo not very new to all of this and righly nervous now. have the rogers magic which is htc branded yet aftewr reformatting sd card like many times before it says no image file. how exactly maybe dumb question do i get the images to my sd card so they work. any help greatly appreciated and trying to flash the daldroid image for want an htc rom. thx, kevin
the simpler the method the better for right now everything on the phone is completely gone and i have no os.

A bit difficult to understand you.
It seems to me that you're panicking at this point. Unfortunately, that makes it very hard to follow what you're talking about. I just picked up my magic today, I've been experiencing some problems as well. I'd be happy to work with you to find answers to your problems, as well as my own.
I'll be putting a new rom on my phone as soon as I have figured out how to do it properly. In the meantime, calm down and try hard resetting your phone to see if that helps.
What does your phone do when you turn it on? HTC magic screen, then a freeze? If you get that far, try removing your battery, putting it back in, pressing and holding back and home buttons together, and pressing power (end call) button for a moment to turn it on. Remember to hold the home and back buttons until the recovery screen comes up.
It'll ask you if you want to clear memory, you select yes (action), let it finish (only a moment or two), and then restart your phone.
I hope that helps.
Caid.
444
[edit] go here and follow these steps in every detail. You need to do this to correctly modify your android device.
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
This means you'll need to download the sdk and a bunch of other things. There are a lot of steps involved in modifying your phone (ie: using custom roms and such) but it's all documented pretty well in many different posts. Don't let it overwhelm you, just do it one step at a time. From what I gather, doing these sorts of things is much easier on a winmo phone, so if you're just looking for an easy method, unfortunately, there is no quick method. But, again, it's all documented in a step by step manner, so take it a step at a time. Another thing to remember is, you're doing these things for your first (or second) time, so it will only get easier in time.
Good luck.
444.

Caid444 said:
It seems to me that you're panicking at this point. Unfortunately, that makes it very hard to follow what you're talking about. I just picked up my magic today, I've been experiencing some problems as well. I'd be happy to work with you to find answers to your problems, as well as my own.
I'll be putting a new rom on my phone as soon as I have figured out how to do it properly. In the meantime, calm down and try hard resetting your phone to see if that helps.
What does your phone do when you turn it on? HTC magic screen, then a freeze? If you get that far, try removing your battery, putting it back in, pressing and holding back and home buttons together, and pressing power (end call) button for a moment to turn it on. Remember to hold the home and back buttons until the recovery screen comes up.
It'll ask you if you want to clear memory, you select yes (action), let it finish (only a moment or two), and then restart your phone.
I hope that helps.
Caid.
444
[edit] go here and follow these steps in every detail. You need to do this to correctly modify your android device.
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
This means you'll need to download the sdk and a bunch of other things. There are a lot of steps involved in modifying your phone (ie: using custom roms and such) but it's all documented pretty well in many different posts. Don't let it overwhelm you, just do it one step at a time. From what I gather, doing these sorts of things is much easier on a winmo phone, so if you're just looking for an easy method, unfortunately, there is no quick method. But, again, it's all documented in a step by step manner, so take it a step at a time. Another thing to remember is, you're doing these things for your first (or second) time, so it will only get easier in time.
Good luck.
444.
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Thanks truly and your right however I have read all of this documentation and others many times but to no avail. Specifically, the main issue I am having is I have literally transferred all of the appropriate files to my device prob 50 plus times, no lie, and every time I get no image file. If I knew how to do this correctly everything should work fine. Yes, I tried your temp fix and am stuck at the roger's screen after boot up with bright red fastboot usb on the top left of the screen. Thanks and hope this helps to help me. Kevin

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1545226
Anything in this thread able to help?

skittleguy said:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1545226
Anything in this thread able to help?
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No, but thanks for trying to help. How exactly is my direct question do you properly place as they said in droid speak the system and image file at the root of your sd card? I know maybe a dumb question yet this is how close I am to flashing correctly and there are no other files on my m.s.d., have reformatted several times, and transferred these 2 files correctly I had thought yet it always says no image file when I press the volume down button??? How can they not be at the root of my storage card when there is nothing else on there? I am very frustrated and right now have a $625.00 htc-rogers magic brick and to me this should be the easiest part. Thanks, Kevin

I don't understand why you are trying to put them on your sd card? You can restore from fastboot if your can a) boot into fastboot and b) have the proper engineering spl installed. Then, it's a matter of going to the command line and
fastboot flash
ing your system and data.
Unless you can't get into fastboot?

skittleguy said:
I don't understand why you are trying to put them on your sd card? You can restore from fastboot if your can a) boot into fastboot and b) have the proper engineering spl installed. Then, it's a matter of going to the command line and
fastboot flash
ing your system and data.
Unless you can't get into fastboot?
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Yes, I quess I understand now yet if you read through most of the stuff here it says as mentioned before to place these files/images on your sd card so the directions are not clear to some of us. Anyhow, I greatly appreciate your help and I do have fastboot and adb working properly and thought I had finally successfully flashed my device 30 min ago, yes for the first time and I was in shock I saw the screen in fastboot with all of the options, yet at the last step it failed so I am trying again. i.e. restore complete I think yet when I slected the option to reboot system it was still stuck on the roger's start screen. Any ideas? Kevin

I've come to the conclusion that flashing the magic is a very sketchy process. And I mean sketchy at best. It seems there's a really high failure rate.
there are many guides on how to do it, but it seems the people who wrote them, forgot to add some steps to the whole thing, and these are the kind of steps which make any newcomers more liable to incorectly flash their phones.
Where's the Magic wiki? I'd be happy to help add to it in any way I can, but it seems that this forum is in definite need of tutorials which can hold the hands of newcomers. Something that's written to be understood without a shadow of a doubt.
I will be getting my magic replacement tomorrow, if there're any long time players here who've got the whole root\flash\update process down pat, I'd love to chat with you on msn, to do these processes step by step, and I'll gladly write it all down in very great detail.
I'd like to help others avoid the same confusion so many users (including myself) are experiencing.
PM me if you're interested.
Caid.
444

Unable to make phone calls

Hi,
My girlfriend recently bought an XDA Orbit 2 which has WM 6.5 install on it.
Everything else on the phone works perfectly and without issue but she is unable to make phone calls correctly;
The phone will be able to dial out and establish a connection but no sound can be heard by either party even though both phones say the connection is there.
This can be resolved by a hard reset, however this only last for about 10-20 minutes before we lose all sound once again.
Can anyone shed some light onto this for me?

One thing that always screws up phone calls is the radio on the phone it should be a 1.59.xx.xx to check it go to start => setting => system => Phone Information => Software Information. Will find it there also while you are there what 6.5 rom is she running on it as if its not a stable one it may be worth updating it...

Should the .xx.xx be anything in particular or just stay as .xx.xx?

anything in particular i use the stock one (with the default rom) which is .42.15 any should do the job though...

Ok the radio on it is 1.58.25.14 which im asuming is wrong. How do I change it?

This a custom flash thingy ma bob wont hard reset the phone when you flash it => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426203
Is the radio i am using and imo the best for signal/ battery life.
How to do it.
1.Download both
2. Put the nbh file in the same directory as the custom ruu
3. Put the phone into bootloader (Start + OK + Reset whole on bottom, hold the buttons until it show a red green white blue screen)
4. plug it in to computer (let the drivers fully install)
5. Start up the Polaris_Custom_ruu.exe
6. Follow the instructions, shouldnt take too long to go through and flash
7. it will reset and you will have a nice shiny new radio and hopefully no more call problems.
All i will say now is what an idiot for selling the phone in that state... (may actually be the reason it was sold lol)

Im going to sound ike a total idiot now but I have no idea what ruu is or nbh or where to put it or what a bootloader is.
Could you possibly put it in moron speech Chris?

LOL well honestly i thought that i had already done that....
Have a look at the files that you download and then it will be explained.
The RUU is the thing that will do the flashing to the device
The nbh files contains the information of you download the stuff and follow the instructions you will have the result that you want honestly i cant think of a simpler way of doing it
Ive also put 2 screenshots to try to help you (one has a different radio but you get the idea...)
Also give this a read but i feel it may confuse you more..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600
Its a noobs guide to flashing and has all of the info that you need to have.
It does give one point that it has to have SPL-2.20.Olinex on the screen but i would guess this is there as you already have 6.5 on the phone.

Awesome, thanks chris I will get it done tonight after work and let you know how it goes, if it fails I have no doubt I will be back complaining about my lack of phone savvy.

Hey Chris, just to let you know that it worked perfectly, thank you for your help it was much appricated.

No worries glad that it worked as if it didnt then i would be out of ideas...