I have the server stuff set up (as far as I know) correctly. I have synced on a schedule just fine, but I want it to sync "when new items arrive". The option is there, but O2 can't help supply the device SMS address.
I've tried [myphonenumber]@o2.co.uk but it didn't work. This is probably an O2 specific problem, but O2 customer services couldn't help.
Any advice greatly appreciated
i have SBS2003 at work and we never got this to work
we just the the phone to sync ever 5 mins over gprs and we have never had a problem.
Wait for Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2 due out later this year. That will do push-mail like Blackberry does.
yea O2 don't do do that.
WIN offer that service. They call it Textmail: www.winplc.com/products/textmail.aspx
Bit costly though. You pay for an SMS for every email poll. Much better to wait for Exchange SP2 as that will poll via gprs - like Blackberry.
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Hi. I've been using mail2web services for a while. They were great until the last couple of weeks, now their service goes down like a pro.
So.. I started to look at alternatives.
fastmail -- nice account, IMAP.. but for the life of me I couldn't get it to "push" email to my phone. It supposedly supports IDLE, but I couldn't figure this out. Am I missing a setting somewhere? The thing never pushed mail to my phone at all.
1and1.com -- slightly more expensive exchange2003 account. No .CAB for the activesynch settings, they have to be input manually. No problem, until I set "as arrives" in scheduling and it asks me for an SMS gateway. Uh-oh. Im on Softbank and I know nothing about any gateway.
this post:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=410683
explains that Exchange works by sending a header SMS to instruct the phone to synch. However, mail2web never asked me for my provider or any SMS gateway.. so if this is how it works how did mail2web do it?
If anyone can shed some light on how to get this working properly, or where to find more technical details on how this stuff works I'd be a lot happier. As it is I'm having to check gmail periodically.
Thanks for your help!
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
Thanks for the info.
So..... do you have any advice as to how I would set up activesynch the same way to connect to 1and1?
When I set it up it asks me for the gateway, otherwise won't let me choose "when arrives" for scheduling, could this be a setting on my side, or a setting on their servers?
mail2web may be OK now, but for a non-free service 1 whole week of unreliability is enough for me. Who knows how long it'll be up before problems start again.
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I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
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mail2web seems back to normal service today... Nearly
But yes one week without push... including sometimes when your email just do not even reach your acount and bounce (ie they're just lost...) it's not really what we need
I hope in the future more and more providers will propose Exchange 2007 accounts by default...
I am also a former m2w user. canceled my account in fury after indeed more than three weeks of problems, topped with a week off.
Fortunately my school's email supports ActiveSync so I moved there.
I cannot recommend any particular commercial replacement.
I've heard a few folks using Goodlink, but I am not convinced.
Push email is no joke, once you have it and rely on it, and it goes bananas, the harm is real.
Do we know when mail2web is planning on using exchange 2007??
Hi Group,
WM 6.1 standard (non-touch) has apparently got Push capabilities together with a Hotmail account.
I tested it, setup was a breeze, set to "get eMail as they arrive" and you have got Push Mail on your smartphone...
Apparently.
Although receiving only a few small eMails a day, I got next month a HUGE invoice from my provider, detailing thousands of separate connections to GPRS every 4-5 minutes all day long.
Indeed the option "get eMail as they arrive" appears to be more or less a Microsoft fake, WM just polls the mailbox frequently enough to give the feeling of a push.
So if you haven't got a flat data plan with your provider, avoid that setting.
By the way: even if you have got one: the permanent polling will drain your battery, more than the rest of your smartphone usage.
Be aware!
RIN67630
I am using the Blackberry Connect software on my HTC Fuze (on T-Mobile, with the $20 unlimited Blackberry plan). This gives me push-mail capabilities that are somewhat easy on the battery, as the Blackberry push-mail implementation is different from other solutions. Not that I would actually know the specifics, but in my tests it works a lot better and preserves battery life longer than IMAP-Idle or email polling every ten minutes or so.
I have VZW TP2 and I use an exchange server to sync my email, contacts, calendars and tasks across my mobile phone, desktop and laptop.
For some reason, on this phone, it doesn't update certain things that I've done of my desktop or laptop for a while. I even manually go into active sync and click "sync now" and it doesn't update.
For example, if I'm on my desktop or laptop and I delete a message in my inbox, it won't update on my phone until it receives another message. Even if I click "send & recieve" in Outlook on my desktop/laptop and then manually click sync on my TP2, the email won't dissapear until another message is received. Also, today I deleted a calendar appointment on my laptop (which was for today) and even after many syncs on both my laptop outlook and on my TP2 via active sync/send recieve etc, the appointment is still showing up on the homepage screen and in my calender.
Anyone ideas?
I am having trouble with mine syncing as well. In Activesync, I get an error saying something about the server not being able to be reached. It may be an intermittent connection problem. It was working fine up until a few days ago. Also, make sure in your Schedule in Activesync is set to 'As Items Arrive'.
I had a problem with syncing then realized from some dumb reason the default option on off hours was manual sync and not "push", after making that change my issue stopped.
this is not a question of configurationi...
i have activesync set up for as items arrive in peak AND off peak. all days are checked, and for safe measure - peak time is from 12a to 11:59pm. so i'm covered there.
BUT i have the same delay issue. i can sent a test email from another email account on my deskto TO the exchange inbox on my device. i will watch it arrive almost instantly to the web portal of that same exchange inbox...but wait 10, 15, sometimes 20 minutes for the device's activesync to "wake up" and decide to sync on its own to retrieve that test message.
totally ridiculous.
yes, it is "push", but it's CLEARLY not instand (or even "immediate") push. certainly not comparable to a blackberry (which i despise and refuse to use).
so far, htc, verizon, and my hosted exchange company have been unable to offer a solution. i'm told, "a 5 to 10 minute delay is totally acceptable when using activesync exchange".
that is totally UNACCEPTABLE in the professional world.
i would go back to using goodlink (as i did with my old xv6800, befoe upgrading to the tp2), but it doesn't work well with touchflo 3d. and to be honest, what's the sense of using the tp2 if you can't enjoy the the new interface?
anyone have any suggestions? can this be fixed??????
The delay in syncing emails getting deleted is common. I don't know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure I read that receiving a new email is the trigger to sync all changes in the mail folders.
As far as it taking 10 - 20 minutes to get new mail, that does not seem normal. I get new mail on my TP2 before they show up in my inbox on my desk and I have on all the "direct push" phones that I've had. Are there other users on your Exchange server you can compare to? That way you'd know if it were just you or the server.
here's a solution!
after speaking with trusted friends and valued forum members (thanks guys for your input), i've decided to ditch "the message center" (the aforementioned exchange hosting company that gave me that "acceptable email delivery" crap). i opened a newa account with another company that advertises IMMEDIATE email delivery via activesync. wish me luck!
I've been syncing mine with an Exchange 2007 Environment that I setup personally and I have had no problems with my Touch Pro 2. Everything has synced just fine. Make sure you double check all of your settings on your phone and if need be on the Exchange Server itself.
my company uses exchangemymail.com for our email hosting. We have a ton of mailboxes using all sorts of devices. blackberry, wm, iphones. I use tp2 via echange active sync. I get emails near instant. calendar updates are near instant. deleted items needs a new email to trigger syncing as I believe that is the way it just works.
I use Windows Mobile 6.1 with Pocket Outlook to access my POP3 account. Until some time last year, I was able to send and receive. Then, for reasons unknown I could no longer send, maybe starting in autumn or winter 2009. The error message says (I translate from Japanese): "Could not send one or more messages. Verify that your network is functioning and that your account settings are correct, then try again."
I finally got around to calling Softbank and they suggested that I look at the port number. Well, the Pocket Outlook interface doesn't actually have an option for port numbers but I suppose that "domainname.com:587" should work. 587 is the port number that my regular Outlook is set to. I tried that on Pocket Outlook now but it doesn’t change anything... Same error message again.
The Softbank guys just keep tellng me it's not their problem, I should change the settings. So... what do I do next?
I don’t think you can change the port number for pocket outlook. flexmail will give you the option. Which email provider are you using?
However Softbank has definitely block the ports and you might need proxy settings. therefore roll the ball back ask them to set it up for you
Bulldog, thanks. You can imagine that Softbank customer support isn't supportive at all. My email provider is Verio. In fact, this is company email (my own company) and others in our company have no trouble with this. They have Softbank phones, use the same settings that I use, use the same SMTP server and have no issues. You can definitely specify the port number as I described. "domainname.com:587" is definitely OK but this doesn't solve the issue. I called my company's IT support guy and he gave me access to his personal SMTP server. Again, I cannot send. He thinks that my specific phone or email account for some reason must be blocked by Softbank....
Alex,
I have forgotten to ask...are you using the original ROM or cooked one
Besides Have you ever test your device with another POP email account and settings (i.e like Gmail)?
Still uncooked. ANd now I am going to do exactly what you suggest: do a lot of testing.
1) Same POP3 account on a different Softbank phone / SIM that I will borrow from a colleague
2) On a different Softbank phone with my own SIM
3) With somebody else's SIM on my own phone
And, as you suggest,
4) Different, unrelated POP account on my phone/SIM
Any other combinations you can think of?
Hello Axel,
The Test procedures (1-4) you thinking of are solid. They should give the answers.
Cheers mate
Ha! I haven't gotten my hands on one of my colleagues' phones yet but I dug out my old X01HT, put in my SIM card, fired it up and tried sending from there. And guess what: no problem, with the same settings I have always used (don't need to specify any port)!!! So what does this mean? My guess is that something with my X05HT is wrong. It's not Softbank per se and it isn't Verio either. So it's got to be the device... Concur?
Yes, Now I would I also think it is the device. If you haven’t yet delete the Pocket Outlook Account and re-setup again, do that first. If that did not help then I am afraid you would need to make hard reset after backing up all your user data.
Hard resert did it
Hello Bulldog, one thing I did not think of was to perform a hard reset. The lady at the Softbank shoi did that today as part of their routine to get phones ready for repair. When she did that I figured might as well try once more and blow me down, that did it. We still don't know why it didn't work before the reset but at least it now works!
Thanks again for your help!
Hi All
I tried to search for the anwser to this question on the forum and through google but couldnt find anything.
Is it me or are the push mail accounts slow when receving messages. I got my hotmail and yahoo accounts set up, but incoming messages are really delayed. Sometimes which is rarely they come through straight away, most times it take between 15min - 1hr to come through.
I've changed the synchronisations setting to download new content "as item arrive ", but this rarely happens.
On the iphone you can choose the sync intervals similar to wp7.5 and every message comes as it arrives, when chosen. As for the blackberry the emails come through almost instantly.
i really liked this as I receive alot of email daily, to be kept in the loop
Could someone explain to me if I'm doing something wrong. OR Is this just how wp7 is, because its strange no one else has brought this up.
Many Thanks
Hello Papsino,
no such issue here... Delivery on gmail, Hotmail and Office365 (Exchange) is nearly instant. Do not have a working Yahoo account, so could not test it.
Running WP 7.5 on a Samsung Omnia 7, but should be similar to your Nokia experience.
Cheers,
Stephen
Push email may require a cellular data connection (the phone chn check email over WiFi, but the push channel is over the cellular data). Do you have a weak data signal on your phone part of the day? That may explain the delays.
On my phone, with both Outlook (on the PC) and WP7 configured to recieve mail "as it arrives", I get almost no delay. Sometimes the phone is even faster than Outlook by a second or two, sometimes slower by as much, but usually near-simultaneous.
Yeah I'm using celluar data.
I'm with 3 UK a mobile provider in the UK who offers all you can eat celluar data. There are mixed reviews about their data and mobile coverage as its very on and off.
I'll try another sim card with more reliable mobile data like Vodafone or Tmobile and see how it goes
Thanks for the replies
Is there anyone on here using a lumia on 3 UK network?
I had the same problem on O2 UK. Since i changed the APN settings i have no delays on my Lumia 710. I believe you should check it out to make sure that nothing is messed up with the settings.
Same problem
papsino said:
Yeah I'm using celluar data.
I'm with 3 UK a mobile provider in the UK who offers all you can eat celluar data. There are mixed reviews about their data and mobile coverage as its very on and off.
I'll try another sim card with more reliable mobile data like Vodafone or Tmobile and see how it goes
Thanks for the replies
Is there anyone on here using a lumia on 3 UK network?
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Hi,I ahve same problems with my NL 800 wich I have about 2 weeks,hotmail arrive always later,15-30 min sometimes 1 hour.
In Yahoo not exist possibility to choose " at item arrive" than I can't check,I try with gmail and working bit better but also not on real time.
If you have some new information please write I am crasy as I took this phone 95% becouse this option,regards
I solve this issue by changing APN. Using Vodafone in Australia, change the APN from live.vodafone.com to vfinternet.net. This works perfectly
try it under wifi