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I'm planning to move from O2 UK Pay & Go to 3 UK pay & go. While obtaining the PAC code, I told their representative that I've had no success with connecting to the Web using GPRS (I don't have a USIM yet so UMTS is out of the question), even using the network preconfigure program I downloaded from HTC, and the instructions from http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html .
He replied that my xda Trion (well, Orange M3100 really) is a contract phone, and only contract customers can use GPRS on it.
But I have a feeling that this is a steaming pile of poo, since I remember the good old days when I used O2 GPRS my O2 xda (yes, the very first one). Unless they have changed the policy?
And if anyone here is using O2 UK Pay & Go and have access to the web using GPRS, would you mind sharing the settings here?
Its fawkin expensive! In a few days I will be moving to t-mobile pay as you go, because they only charge £1 for the whole day of GPRS.
Afternoon all,
I'm currently with OrangeUK and have been for about 9 years. Lately though their customer service has been terrible! 4 attempts to change direct debit details with them and numerous letters from them demanding money when they are at fault in the first place! Phoned today to upgrade to be told that the person who said I could upgrade to a TyTn II for free was wrong and I'd be charged. I wouldn't mind if I hadnt been told otherwise and hadnt spend about £1500 with them in the last 17 months. I'm no longer happy with them and need a change.
I'm considering switching over to either O2 or Tmobile for either the Kaiser or the Polaris. That said I've recently moved to the North East of Scotland (about 30 miles North of Aberdeen) and have no idea what coverage is like on both of these networks up here. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Also which is going to be the better phone? I know we all hate these questions for a million different reasons but I just can't decide. HELP!! If you cant help me with that, teach me how to make decisions!
Thanks in advance.
Try this tool to check t-mobile coverage in your area:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/
Thanks irusmal,
I did have a look at these coverage charts but (call me cynical) I'd rather hear from users of networks. I've been in places before where Orange have said I'd get coverage (3G at that) and I got nothing at all and that was only 20 miles from Manchester. I tend to take them with a pinch of salt.
Thanks.
True, you have to try it for yourself. T-Mobile claims that they will cancel contract within 2 weeks no questions asked if you do not get coverage that they promised to you. I did not try it myself though
If choice is between O2 or T-Mobile, i believe T-Mobile has better 3G coverage overall.
Get o2 -
i was with t-mobile however at work our canteen us underground,
t-mobile = no reception anywhere until you go outside and shake the phone about abit.
o2 = reception in some places and as soon as you step into the open full reception.
i am payg and i top up £30 a month (max) as that gives me unlimited texts and then £30 worth of calls (i dont call that often anyway though)
so just think about what package etc will be best for you.
Really depends how much you are going to spend. £35+ contract will get you a decent phone. T-Mobile has the HTC Touch, Touch Dual and the Kaiser (MDA Touch, MDA Touch Dual and MDA Vario 3) O2 have the Kaiser and Polaris (Stella and Cruise).
I'm with T-Mobile and i can say its a fairly decent network and their customer service is good and web n walk is the best thing in years!!. Not had any dealings with O2 but i heard they are fairly decent.
But before you do anything have a look at the T-Mobile deals on here http://www.expansys.com/c.aspx?f=1220 you can get the HTC Touch Cruise on T-mobile and its not even officially on the network yet. Also you can get the Eten X800
From my experience with T-Mobile and O2 pay as you go, T-Mobile has far better coverage. In Snowdonia I got coverage even in deep valleys and near Fort William in scotland I also got decent coverage with T-Mobile when I got nothing useful with T-Mobile. I also think that T-Mobiles tariffs are better: I get 3p texts, internet from 50p a day and cheap calls... With a contract that might all be different but from my dealings with both I'd go with T-Mobile.
I would personally get a Kaiser as they have everything the other HTC devices do (except DRIVERS!!!!) better and does some other impressive tricks.
Morning all,
Thanks for all the replies. I reckon the only way to get an idea of the coverage is for me to get a couple of payg sims and try them out for myself. I'll try and grab one of each when I finish work tonight. They arent that expensive from memory. Unless anybody knows where I can get them for free? ie any offers on at the moment.
With regards to the phone package, even though my partner is now living with me (bill would normally go down) friends etc are all down in Manchester so I'm still going to need decent minutes and texts. Not to forget data although that doesnt need to be so high. Tmob does seem to have better packages, so I'll look into them in more detail.
To those people throwing even more phones into the pot - What you doing? I'm the most undecisive person you'll ever speak with! It'll take me weeks to come to a decision now! That said the HTC Touch Cruise does look nice! So does the Kaiser... See what I mean!!!
there are always offers on myspace and stuff, giving away those sims that o2 used to call genie... where you get 300 free texts for a tenner... but from orange too... but how else to get one free... no idea
I have got free SIMs from orange, T-Mobile and O2 recently and have seen ads for them everywhere... try a quick google...
voda have great coverage
...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.
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...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.
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I never knew you could get a business tarrif if you are not a business / business user. I'll look into that.
T-mobile packages look very good indeed. Better value than Orange anyway!
It appears Orange have me by the cojones! I cant get an O2 or Tmobile reception at the house at all. Not impressed!
Looks like I'm sticking with Orange...
I work for o2 and can say that coverage for any network is dependant on a number of factors. the small print for most networks states 'on street coverage' ie the coverage listed is on the assumption you are stood outside on the path. being indoors, in a valley, on a hill, surrounded by buildings can all affect service.
ignore any maps or any quotes from any network for this reason.try the sims put for yourself
as for contracts not a lot of difference tmobile have web and walk o2 have web bolt on. personal pref would be o2 as pays my wage though
I live in a village in Yorkshire and we're in a bit of a black spot coverage wise (not just for mobiles, but we have bad signals for TV and radio too). I just ordered free SIMS from all the major networks and tried them until I found one that worked. The only network with a signal at all in my village is T-mobile so I ended up with them.
I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.
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I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.
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Reminds me of Orange
Hello,
We are traveling to Spain. Will be in Barcelona and then the Andalusia region. Will I have data access in these areas? What companies provide a SIM card I can use on my unlocked ATT phone?
Do you know how much they generally cost, and what sort of plans are offered?
Thank you for the help!
The main Carriers are MoviStar, Vodafone and Orange.
For 3G the best is Vodafone, about prices and roaming I think is the best you can get
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The main Carriers are MoviStar, Vodafone and Orange.
For 3G the best is Vodafone, about prices and roaming I think is the best you can get
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Where do I buy one? At the airport, Or is that a ripoff?
I cant figure out how much they will cost for a 3g data package including voice.
Hows the coverage through Andalusia?
My mam went to dubai a couple of months back nd she bought a vodafone sim while she was there tho I dnt know what plans vodafone do for when u go abroad but I could ask her nd let u know
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So Im in Jerez spain and everywhere I've been, every phone store says you can not buy a prepaid sim for data. I know they sell unlimited data sim cards that last 7 days for 29 euro. I see them all over the web, but the vodafone stores have no clue about this, they say only minutes! Maybe I need free gps program since I can not use google maps now. arg. Any suggestions??
thanks!
that depends.topons.com
you can have a look .maybe you can save more.
As a follow up:
I got a movifone sim from Corte Englis but could never get it activated right after over an hour I said screw it.
Then I got a YOIGO sim card from a mobile phone store. I think the store was actually Movifon. After spending 10 minutes telling me they dont make a simcard for data, I looked through the plan book and found one. They set up for me then. It was unlimited data, but I think it capped the speed after so much use. Because after a while of Google maps the speed got REALLY agonizingly slow. Then the next day it would be highspeed again.
It costs me like 15 Euro for 2 weeks.
Hello all,
This fall I will be travelling overseas to Sweden for a semester of study. I'd like to be able to take my captivate with me and just buy a pay-as-you-go or contractless phone/data plan from a provider in europe when I get there.
However I have no experience with european providers or what the cheapest and most effective way to communicate internationally and locally(in Sweden and across Europe) would be. Even less where to start looking, so:
Can anyone point in the right direction for some resources to find out what my easiest options would be?
Do I have to unlock my phone(at&t) in order to use another provider?
Does the Captivate support the bands needed for 3G/calling in Europe?
Could I potentially buy a data-only plan and use skype over 3G for calling?
Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks!
I would also like to know, hope this goes somewhere
You may want to ask in the i9000 forum. But to my knowledge you can add a overseas plan to your att plan and you get charged a lesser amt for your minutes.
You should be able to buy a pay as you go sim when you get over there as well.
I'm not sure about Sweden, but I recently went to the U.K. for work and I took my unlocked captivate with me. I got a local SIM card when I got there and had absolutely no problems at all and it was a lot cheaper than any plan AT&T had.
I went to Mexico once for a week and used one of those plans from AT&T and my bill was $150 higher that month.
When I visited France I hadn't yet unlocked my phone (which would be my first recommendation, then buy just data once there) and I used GVoice Callback (GV Dialer does the same) in conjunction with Sipdroid (of Fring) and a SIP phone number from SipGate to make free calls from France to US landlines via hotel wifi.
Here are some links with info to configure what I describe:
http://goo.gl/M1vj1 (this is a summary of my configuration)
http://goo.gl/sZhVw
http://goo.gl/63yD
http://goo.gl/gUIHF
Staying w/ AT&T when overseas will be expensive.
socrated13 said:
Hello all,
This fall I will be travelling overseas to Sweden for a semester of study. I'd like to be able to take my captivate with me and just buy a pay-as-you-go or contractless phone/data plan from a provider in europe when I get there.
However I have no experience with european providers or what the cheapest and most effective way to communicate internationally and locally(in Sweden and across Europe) would be. Even less where to start looking, so:
Can anyone point in the right direction for some resources to find out what my easiest options would be?
Do I have to unlock my phone(at&t) in order to use another provider?
Does the Captivate support the bands needed for 3G/calling in Europe?
Could I potentially buy a data-only plan and use skype over 3G for calling?
Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks!
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I believe this link will answer your question:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
They use the 2100Mhz UMTS band, (which we also use over here in Malaysia)
And it will work.
( got mine unlocked by default though, get superoneclick to unlock your cappy)
Call ATT and ask them to give you an unlock code. Otherwise it won't accept a non-ATT simcard
I used my unlocked Captivate in Switzerland, Germany, Austria, and Czech Republic. No problems in any of the countries roaming on an AT&T SIM or a local pre-paid card. I used an O2 MVNO in Germany and Vodafone in Prague.
Some of the common carriers in Europe are T-Mobile, Vodafone, O2, and Orange. I'd check carriers local to where you are. Vodafone was much more expensive in Germany than it was in Czech Republic. T-Mobile tended to be on the expensive side anywhere.
Vodafone in Czech Republic was $30 for unlimited data. Most carriers will charge you 5 or 10 euros (of the equivalent in local currency) to buy the SIM, and there will be about 10 euros of credit on there.
I'd get Google Voice and use that to call back to the US. That way you only pay for data and avoid text/voice charges.
Good luck!
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Call ATT and ask them to give you an unlock code. Otherwise it won't accept a non-ATT simcard
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Or just use SGS unlock tool and you can unlock it in less than 5 minutes.
Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
Go to the vodafone eforum and do it that way you get much better deals! Or just contact them through twitter just look for vodafone UK deals
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Go to mobiles(.)co(.)uk, chose HTC One S -> T-Mobile -> Show All and you can find this deal:
Line Rental £26.00 monthly with cashback(7 Months Free) Includes 750MB data allowance , 300 Minutes , Unlimited Texts
Plus you can get an extra £60 cashback if you go to quidco(.)com, register, search for mobiles(.)co(.)uk, click on the link and complete your order.
All that will bring your average cost per month down to £15.92 with a free phone, 300 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb of data
phones4u is currently doing £27 24month contract on O2, 300mins, 500Mb data, also doing £26 24 month on vodafone 300mins, 500Mb data. But phone free, and SIM free, unbranded as I was told yesterday when I was in one of their shops playing around the one s. (oh yes, the deals only available online but I think that's better cos you have the 14days cooling period which in store you don't get it)
I am planning to get the o2 deal since always on o2 but just waiting to decide which colour to go for... just cannot decide...
i really need 1gb of data! i am going for the grey, just to get away from the black ones chipping whilst those phones are still in circulation!
Cheers all.
Three are by far the best. Just changed to them and their signal and 3G speed is great! When tethered to my PC using wifi and the three networks 3G on speed test I get 56ping, 8/9mb Download, 2.5mb upload.
The deal I went for was Unlimited Data, 1000mins, 5000 texts for £33 a month with £60 credit spread over 3rd and 4th bill.
3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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I totally. I remmember their first proprietary handsets and they were nasty cheap plastic... Do you remember those £11 3 phones from Savers? The advertising used to get right on my nerves too, and the support was aweful. I came back to them in 2010 for the One Plan and haven't been more impressed with a carrier since.
Support is also top notch, never have to wait in a queue and like you say, the speeds are the best around...
I don't want to sound like I'm advertising them, but they really have turned a new leaf in terms of service and reliability.. As well as the fact they don't put their fugly logo on every phone I buy anymore
Have been with ThreeUK for 4 years, had to cancel my contract this month, as I moved to a new place and don't have any signal indoors what-so-ever. I also found their customer support very useless to help me solve my problem, but had no problems in past to get a good deal for upgrade.
Now I'm with T-mo and my phone arriving tomorrow
nozzla said:
Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
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I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
ccart said:
I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
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I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
nozzla said:
I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
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Wow thats shocking! I've only been with them 5 years and even then this is the most expensive tariff I've ever taken out with them...usually I was a SIM only customer (£15 a month). I go on their live chat thing and ask what are my options are and I usually get someone saying 'well since you've been with us a while' etc etc. Maybe try your luck and say you've been with them 12 years and you want this phone but that tariff is too expensive and competitors are cheaper and you may have to leave. They seem to value customers so could offer you a loyalty discount (and yes they do this cause my account has a bolt on thingy saying 'Loyalty Discount, -£4'). I have half a mine to ask them to knock another few ££ off for those 50mms messages cause they will NEVER get used lol.
If you have been with your provider for quite a while, then try and call their cancellation line and request your PAC code, they will offer you a really good deal just to keep you with them, but if you deny all their offers and go away with the PAC code, wait for another call... with the best deal possible
got pac code. no further calls. sod them! i've gone with the Three UK deal. 500 minutes, unlimited data and texts. £32 a month. O2 have disappointed me to say the least!
EDIT: Thanks for all your advice!
Why no one commented on the deal that I found?
Is it because of T-Mobile or 300 minutes is not enough?
I have never used T-Mo, so I'm curious a little bit now
I'm on Orange panther 31. As it suggests, £31 with 400 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb data though CPW. Also includes free sky sports on the phone and another one of those swappable things.
I also get 15% loyalty discount for staying with them so works out at £26 odd coupled with roaming data access to T-Mobile I'm very rarely without H connection.
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whats this roaming data ?? How do you use tmobile when your with orange ?
Id like to know more about this, because with vodafone the 3g signal is non existent where i live, But tmobile have excellent 3g signal (my GF is with them)
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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I personaly dont understand, why u all look for "carrier" phones with monthly payment...
Isnt there any "local" internet shops (similar to ebay/amazon) where you can buy? Here there is planty of them! Choose the one u like or the price u like and go ahead!
You can see some of search results here "http://www.salidzini.lv/search.php?q=htc+one" But ofc, these shops dont send outside Latvia, so its not option for thread author
cookpass said:
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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Ohhh i know what you mean now, Orange and Tmobile joined up last year..
I just thought you mean, if you internet connection is crap you could use someone else network lol
Like I (vodafone) could use... say 3 UK network when my 3g network fails.... haha that would be impressive