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Hi guys,
I have spent much time reading the various forums on the different options on the SAT NAV. I would like to offer comment, and ask assistance at the same time (ooeerr!!)
1) I have been using the ipaq with the Navman GPS 3000 for a long long time, and have used it with almost every piece of software compatable. I live in Devon, England and probably cover about 30,000 miles a year, and would comment as follows for assistance:
Destinator - antequated ****e that couldn't navigate its way from A to B down a straight road with no turnings.
Tom Tom 2 and early 3 - Very pretty, but WARNING - crazy route choices, especially on some of the B roads. Most upsettingly, two of the towns near me are not listed - thus making searches really hard. Also good for adding your own POI's
Smart ST Pro 2 - Very very functional, excellent route choices. No personal POI's and version 2 not 3D.
Every time I have ended up with Tom Tom's software, I have given up and reverted back to Smart ST Pro (bundled with Navman).
So question.
Is the latest version of Tom Tom better at routes?
If not, can a version of smart ST pro be made to work on XDA II
IF so, which version of hardware is best used with it?
Or should I just keep the Compaq in glove box for sat nav, and use XDA for other stuff
Help help help help!!!! ! ! !
cheers guys
JJ

Love the Destinator comments! As for TomTom, V3 with the latest update it is much improved, routing is logical, maps are still TeleAtlas but that's something we'll have to live with. The custom POI's are a hugely popular feature, you can utilise our Safety Camera database and there is Digitools excellent (and free) UKPostCode plug-in so you can navigate with a PostCode as the only info necessary (see www.digitools.co.uk ).
Runs fine on an XDAII with the latest ROM which is especially apt if you use the Traffic feature updating via GPRS, works perfectly. You'll find the performance of the latest GPS Mice and BT GPS receivers much improved over the Navman GPS Jackets, more satallites, quicker TTFF and much better at holding on to weak signals.

Thanks for the feedback griffog,
I will give it a try then.
I will let you know how I get on!
Right, back to my search for Pocket PC Elite!! ......
Cheers
JJ

Thjis is a post for anybody using TOM TOM 3.
Just as a quick experiment to see if they have corrected a minor oversite.
Coud you see if Tavistock and Totnes are listed as towns in the search engine.
We all wish we could forget these places, but unfortuntately, we still have to visit!!!! !!!
Cheers guys in advance

Happy to confirm that both Totnes and Tavistock appear on the address search and are cirrectly indexed as being in Devon.

Thanks griffog,
I suppoose that's good news !!!!!!! ha!
Cheers
JJ

Help & advise needed - Sat Nav

Hi there,
As a new owner of the o2 XDA mini s I would like to install a sat nav program, preferably one that covers Europe, any suggestions on which to use and how to obtain it would be appreciated, thanks.

I find TomTom to be pretty good.
I suppose Expansys at Expansys.com would be a good start. Also, checkout TomTom's own web site.

@mx5duncan
I have used all three major versions:
TomTom 5.21
Navigon 5
Destinator6
TomTom is nice, but it's full of bugs, old cards and way to many strange problems
Navigon looks very nice but SOOOOOO SLOW (takes minutes to enter an address) and recalulate the route will give you mist turns TOOO SLOW
Destinator is clearly my winner easy to use, excellent maps and very fast.
Don't need your manual very intuitive
Tuurtje

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Tuurtje said:
I have used all three major versions:
TomTom 5.21
Navigon 5
Destinator6
TomTom is nice, but it's full of bugs, old cards and way to many strange problems
Navigon looks very nice but SOOOOOO SLOW (takes minutes to enter an address) and recalulate the route will give you mist turns TOOO SLOW
Destinator is clearly my winner easy to use, excellent maps and very fast.
Don't need your manual very intuitive
Tuurtje
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Thanks for your help guys. The Destinator6 sounds OK but how do I go about getting hold of it? Is it available to download anywhere or do I have to purchase it? As I said, I'm new to this phone and also to sat nav so any help, however small is hugely appreciated, cheers.

Hi if you are intrested in a tomtom system on your pda I have a uncracked version with full europe mapping (Requires a 2Gb mini sd card
Or a GB+ Major roads of europe (can get away with 512Mb but 1GB is better)
If you are intrested i will put it on a CD for you and post it out for a small charge (about €10) if yo like.
You will have to purchase a Code from Tomtom or get your own crack tho

Hi,
You can visit the Destinator 6 site see link below:
Ill plug my own company DSL Developments as we are an authorised reseller, but also heres the Destinator link to the resellers also, hope that helps.
D6 is proving very popular, its very easy to use and install, and very upto date, latest maps and postcodes, and if you are new to PDAs and sat nav, its a doddle to install and use each day:
Hope that helps!
Bryson
DSL Developments Destinator page:
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/Destinator/destinator.asp
Destinator 6 site: http://www.destinatortechnologies.net/uk/products/purchase/

GPS+Maps+WM6+Tokyo. Help :)

Hi Everyone,
Well I have my GPS and TyTN up and running smoothly but there is a surprisingly big lack of maps and/or software that seems to cover Japan/Tokyo. With this country being GPS mad there must be something available I can use without having to resort to google maps and downloading stuff all the time. TomTom does not do Japan (??) So perhaps a Japanese local offering?
Anyone in Tokyo using an interesting solution.
Thanks,
Ray

FYI - Mapking seems to offer a Tokyo map.

I was astounded at first, too that it's so hard to find any decent maps for Japan. None of the big players seems to cover the land of the rising sun. But it's not that surprising if you take into account that (nearly) everybody is using GPS in their cars or on their cellphones (which all have to have GPS since last April).
That said, check out www.mgmaps.com. It's a Java midlet application, but a darn good one! It allows you to *download Google Maps tiles of your chosen area and store them on your card*. Saves you time and data once you cut out the map(s) you need. It'll take you a while, but it's a great and free solution that even offers navigation instructions in some areas (I think Google doesn't cover all of Japan right now).
The other solution would be http://uud.info/shop/catalog/contact_us.php?language=en where you can buy maps for Garmin Map Source that you can use on you PPC if you have the according software. Usually Garmin bundles with their GPS hardware, but they recently released a program that enables you to just use your own (builtin) GPS. I hope one of those

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

TomTom - No US Maps on Website?

Hope someone can point me in the right direction. I have TT7 for my HD2 and now need to buy the North American maps. But when I go to the TomTom US site, there's no listing for the map, and in fact they don't even list Windows Mobile software as being available at all - only iPhone, which is pretty obnoxious where I'm concerned.
Am I doing something wrong? Has TomTom abandoned the Windows Mobile platform? What gives?

Bump. Anyone?

Bump. Yeah I've been looking too.

Try ***warez site link removed*** their site is down at the moment, but should be back in a week or so.

I understand the site has been hacked and will take a look at them when they're back, but why would we want to go there rather than buying maps directly from the vendor? Just asking - I don't understand, and it seems you know something.

When you go there, you will see.

Since the site is down due to a hack with no indication of when it'll be back, maybe one of you guys will spare me the suspense and just say what's going on if you know?

http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/select.php?D=191&SD=348
Try this

blibble said:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/select.php?D=191&SD=348
Try this
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Ok, now go and try to select North America and see what happens.

TOMTOM has officially abandoned the US market for TOMTOM Navigator 7 and above, "Due to difficulties with US Cell Service providers"
Except for iPhone because Apple will apparently "work with them", while the other providers won't.
The latest US maps that will work with TT7 on the HD2 are the 825 series. The 845 series appear to be incompatible with WM6.5, which is why TOMTOM won't sell anyone the USA maps for Navigator anymore.

Meromorph said:
TOMTOM has officially abandoned the US market for TOMTOM Navigator 7 and above, "Due to difficulties with US Cell Service providers"
Except for iPhone because Apple will apparently "work with them", while the othe providers won't.
The latest US maps that will work with TT7 on the HD2 are the 825 series. The 845 series appear to be incompatible with WM6.5
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Please quote or link to source of your information because it seems contradictory. TomTom is independent of cell service as it's based on hardware GPS, and iPhone is... a phone, so if there are "difficulties with US Cell Service providers, that would include AT&T, the iPhone partner here in US. Furthermore, the HD2 was recently added on the TomTom site as a supported device, so again your information sounds strange. Color me confused.

i found the maps on the tomtom site or you can download them as a torrent.

Cal3b said:
i found the maps on the tomtom site or you can download them as a torrent.
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Link, to US/CAN maps, please. I don't see them anywhere. I go through the steps of selecting my device, and get to the three boxes where they display the regions, but there is no selection for US/Canada.
I'd rather buy them legally than download them as a torrent.

Meromorph said:
TOMTOM has officially abandoned the US market for TOMTOM Navigator 7 and above, "Due to difficulties with US Cell Service providers"
Except for iPhone because Apple will apparently "work with them", while the other providers won't.
The latest US maps that will work with TT7 on the HD2 are the 825 series. The 845 series appear to be incompatible with WM6.5, which is why TOMTOM won't sell anyone the USA maps for Navigator anymore.
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This from US TomTom support phone-line. The polite young lady on the phone said she went and checked with her supervisor, and with her tech support desk. I am a long time TOMTOM user and was fairly insistent on getting an answer. She was very insistent on 'Can't help you - it will never be available in the US on anything but iPhone.'. Polite, but insistent.
So I regretfully hacked it. It works very well, allowed me to download one city map for free, and I don't expect to get updates for the USA and Canada map I am using. I would have been happy to pay them, I begged them to allow me to pay them...

BillTheCat said:
Link, to US/CAN maps, please. I don't see them anywhere. I go through the steps of selecting my device, and get to the three boxes where they display the regions, but there is no selection for US/Canada.
I'd rather buy them legally than download them as a torrent.
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my bad, i looked and they have maps, but no US . i guess they dont sell them anymore so i guess the torrent is the only option.

i dont know if this helps but i just downloaded the one free map for my city (san diego). of course i didnt try and buy other one and so i dont know if it works.

Any progress on this...?
Thought I'd bump this to see if anything has changed since the last post.
I'm looking to upgrade to Navigator 7 so I can have a version of TT that 'works' on my HD2 (i.e. correct screen format). Plus I want to be able to use the updated maps.
I need to be able to run with both UK/Europe maps and North America maps (for my trips to the US). I am happy to buy these maps from TT. I'm not looking here for free maps!
It seems that TT (for reasons we can only speculate on) still do not support North America maps on Navigator 7.
Has anybody managed to find a solution to this (e.g. Navigator 7 with an older version of NA maps or even a 'fix' to allow Navigator 6 to switch to WVGA mode)?

johnkst said:
Thought I'd bump this to see if anything has changed since the last post.
I'm looking to upgrade to Navigator 7 so I can have a version of TT that 'works' on my HD2 (i.e. correct screen format). Plus I want to be able to use the updated maps.
I need to be able to run with both UK/Europe maps and North America maps (for my trips to the US). I am happy to buy these maps from TT. I'm not looking here for free maps!
It seems that TT (for reasons we can only speculate on) still do not support North America maps on Navigator 7.
Has anybody managed to find a solution to this (e.g. Navigator 7 with an older version of NA maps or even a 'fix' to allow Navigator 6 to switch to WVGA mode)?
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I've tried to send you a PM, but it seems you won't allow PM's.... Plz get this rectified, so I can help you out
Grtz,
Degake

degake said:
I've tried to send you a PM, but it seems you won't allow PM's.... Plz get this rectified, so I can help you out
Grtz,
Degake
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Sorry about that, Degake. I never saw the need for PMs before this... I have activated messaging now. Please try again...