Oh at this time of fun and joy, how little i'm having
It all started a few weeks ago when I had to dump my Yahoo mail account as I was getting way too much junk mail - my poor Homer Simpson "The mail is here... woooohoooo" was seriously overworked!
So off I Googled and after a few hours found Inbox.Com. Awesome! 5 gig free and pop access.. yay! So I set it all up on Outlook on my PC and it rocked. Great!
Now time to setup on my TyTN. So I plugged all the details into the standard Smartmobile client and encountered my first problem. Aparently, and I ain't too hot on this stuff, Inbox.com does something odd with the content also being part of the subject? Anyways, this stopped the Smartmobile software downloading any messages, all it would do is tell me there are x number of mails present
So I tried a few more 3rd party apps and finaly came across Flexmail. This *at first* rocked! It downloaded emails and replaced the standard "Today screen" menu option and seemed to work great. A well rounded bit of software.
Then this morning, my second day of using flexmail, I woke up and noticed no new emails. Fired up my laptop (Outlook) and checked - oh look 2 new mails
After some experimentation, it appears that Flexmail does not autoconnect (a least reliably - unlike the standard MS client which does but don't download) and just ignores some email messages! (Unable to find out why/common factor)
So, I'm now after a reliable, well rounded and polished, SMS(?) and Email client for my TyTN. It must autoconnect every x mins, use system address book/contacts and above all, be reliable and not ignore messages! It must also run "invisibly" for want of a better way of describing it and not need me to constantly start it up etc.
I have tried nPOP and QMail, neither of which seem "nice n pretty" enough for me.
I am happy to pay for a client, as long as I can get a demo/trial first and i'm not too bothered about cost either.
I beg you, please point me in the right direction and I will be forever in your debt!
Very many thanks in advance and a have a tip top holiday period!
edit: Ps No matter what I try I also can't get flexmail to play my "The mail is here ...." even though its programmed in Sounds And Notifications/Flexmail.
Profimail?
Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
wpmulder said:
Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
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1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
The only cost will be data on your phone plan, but it means you get true push mail, so you don't have to check every x minutes, it just notifies you when you get new mail like a blackberry, and all of this with pocket outlook.
Also means all of your contacts and calendar are backed up online too.
Menneisyys said:
..... Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Hi
We are both coming from a diferent forum looking for the same answer We've both used QMail - which seems complicated and ugly - and Flexmail, nice looking but, well "misses" emails and won't autoconnect, despite the options.
Will however check out your link, thanks!
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If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
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'coz this aint a "inbox.com" issue. Its rubbish clients on the smartphones. Yahoo was brilliant but got blitzed with junk mail, although it did take 7 years to reach too bad a level for me
Why is it so dificult to get a "good" client on smartphones?
p.s. I don't want to have to change x gazilion email subscriptions/forums addresses again. Specialy when its not the email servers fault.
Menneisyys said:
... There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Having now checked out that link i'm none too impressed. All they seem to say is that Flexmail is the best out there and well, if thats the best then the market has a big hole in it.
Flexmail DOES have a lot on pluses however, its simple lack of ability to reliably connect (no, this is not a signal thing etc) and it's just plain ignorance of playing my "The mail is here..." tune combined with it not listing all my mails, sucks.
I'd like to think i'm doing something wrong, maybe I am, but I can get pocket outlook to connect everytime (just not download) and I can get the other mail clients (including pocket outlook) to play the tune....
This really does reinforce to me that Smartmobile is lacking and wanting in a market where it pushes convergence as its major "daddy".
P.s I downloaded the client from the publishers website about 3 maybe 4 days ago so it shouldn't be a version issue. But then, why should I need a 3rd party app to do what Outlook desktop will do anyway!?!?!?
Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you mention that you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
Profimail.
Downloaded and installed. Won't recognise any screen taps of any sort on my TyTN. All input has to be done by keyboard and onscreen keyboard. Oh and some screens don't have a "back" or "finish" option meaning that I have to kill the program from the memory applet and start again - avoiding the offending screen for the rest of my life.
Thanks for the recommendation but my verdict "Rubbish".
So, I stand by my previous post, anyone know a GOOD pop client for smartphones?
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Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
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'coz I have to sign in to it using a browser or wap session? Unless there is an option I can't see
I want the mail transfer to be out of my hands, I just want to be alerted when there is new mail (15 minutes delay is perfectly adequate for me) and it to be in my "inbox" rather than have to go and check a webpage. If wanted to check a webpage, why would I use Mail2Web as Inbox.com has a web interface already?
I would like to say that I do appreciate everyones input, maybe we will come across the perfect client for me (and others) if we keep plugging away.
Thankyou to all!!
Merry Christmas All!!
You know... I have just recently entered the world of push email and I have to say it's pretty awesome to get my email on my 8525 after only a few seconds.
I had the hardest time getting email to work reliably for me as well. I had the XDA IIs for 2 years and tried Flexmail, Profimail, npop, pocket outlook and none of them would just work reliably.
After much research on this whole push email thing I found mail2web live (based on recommendations from various sources, including this one). All I did was sign up for a mail2web live account and created an email address with them. From there I just set up my gmail account to forward all incoming emails to my mail2web account. And it worked. I have a second gmail account forwarded to them as well... and now I get them both in real time on my phone. Also... the days of email disappearing in pocket outlook are gone thanks to this system.
Here is the link to sign up for mail2webs live service with push email:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
I went into active sync and set up the server details to create a push email system. Now I use pocket outlook for my email and I get my notifications when email come in just like I do with SMS.
Server settins for activesync on your pocket pc:
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Activesync > Menu > Configure Server...
Server address: mobile.exchange.mail2web.com
Check the SSL box for encryption.
Username: [email protected]
Password: yourpassword
Domain: ad2
Check save password.
I would go to advanced settings and change it to "Keep the item on your device" as well that way you don't lose anything while syncronizing your information.
The only problems that people have been mentioning are mail2web's lack of free aliasing of your email address. So any email you straight respond to will show up as coming from mail2web.com. I have tried changing gmails settings for this and also activesync's option for your email address, but mail2web still overrides this.
Searching for a solution I have found port88.org. I have signed up for an account based on feedback I have read and anticipate that I will have my account set up with them soon (the main advantage I can see is that they offer the aliasing that I would need). I have not actually used their service as of yet, but I am eager to.
Here is the discussion on port88.org here on xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-273878.html
Here is the link to the port88.org sign up page:
http://www.port88.org/signup.php
Hope this helps people out. I know one thing... I will NOT go back to pulling email... not after I have experienced this push email thing Finally my pocket pc has reliable email... just as reliable as my SMS now.
Message me if you have any questions.
Mark
Hi Caswell,
thanks very much for the detailed response but sadly I have now learn't I cannot use this method. I can only have one Exchange "server". This phone also sync's with my laptop which is also connected to my office Outlook/Exchange server.
Do I understand this right?
inbox.com news
Hi,
I do not know if you got any further with your search - but maybe it will be soon possible to normally use the WM5 mail-client (or any other one) with our inbox.com mail-account. I saw this announcement recently on the inbox.com that they will anyble access from mobile devies - see attached screenshot.
Peter
Hi,
I have searched the forums without any luck in finding exaclty what I need so I thought I'd post a new thread...
I have a HTC Trinity (AKA P3600) and I use the calendar very muck. So far only for private entries because I have my meetings at work in Outlook in my PC and haven't really needed them in my phone so far. Now I got promoted and must be able to update my calendar from my phone since my colleagues need to know where I am and who I'm in a meeting with.
The problem is that I don't wanna put my private stuff on our company's server, even though I know I can set appointments as "private". I would really like to either use Outlook Mobile for separate calendars, or I need to find another calnder-appliction to install. And that needs to be one that's not just "a skin" for the information stored in Outlook Mobile (or is it called Pocket Outlook? I don't remeber atm). I would prefer to be able to sync both calendars some way if possible. And oh, I don't mind paying for software if it's good so pelase tell me of commercial applications as well.
Can anyone help me with suggestions on how to solve my problem?
Thanx so much in advance. Have a great day!
Markus
I just lost 80 people off my list!
Stay away from it at all costs! damn stupid idiots at M$!!!
All i did was logon and when i logged on the PC i see 80 people missing!!
Please if you have a CAB file for Pocket MSN that comes from T-Mobile SDA for Installation, ill be VERY gratefull!!
Here's Windows Live Messenger for WM5/6. If you mean the MSN Messenger application included in WM5 ROM then it's already in your phone as part of the operating system. Check the windows folder for the executable...
@NiTroGenious, dear god NO! i do NOT want Live Messenger! it just cost me 80 people off my list! its horrible! all that contact syncing disaster!
I want MSN Messenger and yes i know it comes with WM5, but i put WM6 and it does not come with it, That is why i asked if someone has or can make a CAB for installing it. Since i couldn't find it anywhere on the net
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Anyway, if you don't want the "Windows Live! features", why don't you try an alternative MSN client, such as IM+?
Windows Live! features, killed 80 people off my MSN list
IM+ and the rest of the others, cost money. And MSN Messenger on the SDA is all ill need if i can port it to WM6 from the WM5.
Thank you for trying
if you used WM6 Perfect Edition, try to use IE, I add an Windows Messenger Mobile in IE favorite, it is a wap version, it works well when you only need text chat.
@andot, i did not see it, propably cause when i synced the mobile, my favorites replaced the ones you provided
I still prefer an independed solution, is there no way to integrate instmsgr from the WM5 rom?
PS: Just wanna say awesome job on WM6 andot! seriously! brought new life to my mobile!
PS2: I Just found the PERFECT solution! FREEWARE and can logon to: Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and GoogleTalk!!!
I am shocked no one told me about it before, check it out - http://www.octro.com/index.php
PS3: Here's another free one which also gives you SIP! http://www.fring.com/download
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if you used WM6 Perfect Edition, try to use IE, I add an Windows Messenger Mobile in IE favorite, it is a wap version, it works well when you only need text chat.
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is thre ne way i can gt a wap messenger for wm5
Sefy said:
I just lost 80 people off my list!
Stay away from it at all costs! damn stupid idiots at M$!!!
All i did was logon and when i logged on the PC i see 80 people missing!!
Please if you have a CAB file for Pocket MSN that comes from T-Mobile SDA for Installation, ill be VERY gratefull!!
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There is this one from Nitrogen HERE DownloadPocketMSN_wm5_by_nitrogen You probably know him
Also do a search for "Install_Pocket_MSN.exe" there are a few cabs around. I downloaded it and it installed fine for me. All though, I just can't get MSN to work...
And finally, as an alternate try: www.palringo.com Its what I'm using now, free, pretty flexible, still in development. So far works great for me. Audible sounds with every message you recieve, can log into multiple acounts, multiple PM's, can use on Desktop, can send voice and picture messages... try it out, Not bad at all, and it qualifies for your FREE request Good Luck mate.
@Nitrogen: Good to see you around mate!
Everywhere I see I keep finding references to Outlook when I want to edit contacts through my computer instead of through my PPC (it's a seriously painful job at times... ><).
I have no interest in buying the entire damned Outlook/Office suite for this little thing, and OpenOffice covers everything I need otherwise. Does this exist?
Outlook is an awesome app period. I got '07 version (only one on shelves) for about $70. Not to mention it will also be your main point for calender, tasks, notes, contacts, and if you want mail (kind of pointless if you have the unlimited data plan) Or just find a contact manager app for your PPC that you like, you don't have to purchase the entire office suite.
I'm still not keen on getting Outlook. Costly, unnecessary since I have everything I need in other programs or services. All I need is a way to manage contacts like I can do in Outlook (through Activesync), and that's what I'm looking for, but can't find.
Does it exist?
may try jeyo mobile companion.
its a desktop tool to work with your PPC for SMS and contacts.
Im using Mozilla Thunderbird and Birdiesync, if you install the Lightning-Addon for Thunderbird you can even sync your Calendar.
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may try jeyo mobile companion.
its a desktop tool to work with your PPC for SMS and contacts.
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Now this looks interesting. Thanks to both of you for great suggestions!
If there's a free something out there that'd be even better
I have searched and searched, but I cannot find a good alternative program to windows mobile's Outlook Email Client. For texting I am currently using SMS-Chat by Vito, and I was hoping there was a similar program somewhere out there that I could use for my email, but I can't find any email programs. Does anybody know of any that they can recommend. I hate the Outlook program, it runs so slow and takes forever to open and close.
troyccobb said:
I have searched and searched, but I cannot find a good alternative program to windows mobile's Outlook Email Client. For texting I am currently using SMS-Chat by Vito, and I was hoping there was a similar program somewhere out there that I could use for my email, but I can't find any email programs. Does anybody know of any that they can recommend. I hate the Outlook program, it runs so slow and takes forever to open and close.
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Flexmail is imho, among the best ones. The downside is that it isn't free. Good luck!