was wondering,
lot of pocket pc apps don't work on the smartphone, and i thought it was pretty much because of the screen resolution difference.
so, when the htc hurricane based phones start coming out, does this mean any windows mobile 2003 apps will work on the hurricane because is has 240x320 res?
what do you think???
it have a different cpu type thats why they often dont work
with 2005 more should be supported but it of cause dont change the issue with many pocketpc applications require the use of pen
and the reverse problem with smartphone applications not supporting the pen at all
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hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.
With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.
understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?
You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.
As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .
yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.
There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.
well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514
Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
Airhead315 said:
Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
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I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
danielherrero said:
I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
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Do you know of an emulator for the HTC Touch Pro? I downloaded a program that I know works, and was able to compile and run it on my phone but when I tried to run it with the emulator it was missing the HTCSensorSDK.dll file... something fairly new i presume. I tried default emulator and the Windows Mobile 6 Professional VGA emulator but I was wondering if there was one available for this phone yet.
I want to know the same thing
If/when you find an answer to this I would love to hear about it or see a post on it. Thanks.
There's no such thing as a software-only emulator for the Raphael's hardware, that would be incredibly complex to create for such a task
What the developers use is called a "Board Support Package" - it basically contains all the raphaels hardware, in a PCI card that gets installed in a slot in the computer.. that way all the drivers, etc can be loaded and everything can be tested as it would be on the phone itself.
There's pretty much not a chance in heck of you getting one of those (although if you do, send one my way, I would love to have one )
The emulators are useful for testing generic software that does not tie into any of the features that require raphael hardware. There should also be emulator images to support all resolutions (qvga square, qvga, vga, not sure about wvga/wqvga)
And, here's the link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
Looks like it does in fact come with wqvga and wvga emulators
Note that you can use an emulator kitchen to add SOME of the htc stuff to the ROM image, but none of the drivers that support the htc hardware will function.
For those of you who have been working on early builds of Windows Mobile 6.5, I was wondering if you might know whether a program that was designed for WM5 (using the sidebar scrolling) can utilize the flick scrolling that I see working on the home screen for WM6.5. Does a program have to utilize this feature or is it native to WM6.5 so that any older program can use it? Thanks.
Not quite sure how the WM6.5 scrolling works, but I think it *should* make pages flick-scrollable (it seems acceptable for 2009...)
You can try out FTouchSL (www.ftouchsl.com), or SPB Pocket Plus (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus).
They both cost money.
Though I advise you to eventually upgrade to a newer phone, WM7 is coming up!
While I would like to wait for WM7, I need to update my old 8125 because the mini USB port broke and the RAM memory is too low to support certain programs. Programs such as Epocrates on the WM platform are still running with side bar scrolling (the interface on the iPhone is much nicer) and I'm wondering if finger scrolling would work even though Epocrates was made for scrolling using a Dpad (which many phones lack) or stylus friendly side bar scrolling. Esword is another program made the same way. Anyone try the early versions of WM6.5 with older programs that have such limitations?
[email protected],
I found at zack-zack.eu a device for windows CE users ...
(http://www.zack-zack.eu/html/detail/zackzack.html?itemId=2782)
I think it's can be very useful (because of the low price!) but I don't know if I can install other programs like Pocket Informant, OperaMobile Browser...
Can anybody help me?
Best Regards SavageDeath
I have one and like the size and weight but performance is lacking in terms of web speed; the 128m ram size limits its usfullness to only the simplest pages. Additionally it doesn't run all Pocket PC or WinCE programs. Lastly the physical keyboard has stopped working. Can still use the on-screen keyboard and usb port; but no clue as to what happen. IDon't think its a software problem. Plan to take it apart soon to see if there is a loose connection.
those netbooks are great for dos games
We gather Symbian for pocket PC, as initial codes symbian already are but we not know how to create a kernel and to start it on pocket PC
If we can run kernel , big problems with GUI won't be as already there are programs for editing GUI and all other
But there will be problems with drivers
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We gather Symbian for pocket PC, as initial codes symbian already are but we not know how to create a kernel and to start it on pocket PC
If we can run kernel , big problems with GUI won't be as already there are programs for editing GUI and all other
But there will be problems with drivers
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no offence mate but whats this got to do with WP7?
and what happed to the 10 post do-da thingy before folk can post new threads?
Symbian sucks , dont see the point of running it on htc hd2
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Yes to hd 2, he's what, and unnecessary but it is needed on the weaker PocketPCs such as symbian you can play good games, even on a processor with 434MHz
I am puzzled.
We have Android, Win Mobile 6.5, WP7, Meego in early stages and Ubuntu all running off our HD2. Why would you want to go backwards and ask for Symbian.
For me, it is an old operating system which is outdated. For sure when it first came out, Nokia were the kings in the phone market but now, it is way down the pecking order now.
Some advice.....go and buy at Nokia 5800 for £60, there are plenty around and very cheap.