XDA2i and tomtom 5 - General Topics

i've installed my new version of tt and having slight problems already
my first trip went fine but got to use it today for a propper run ,
at first everything went fine that is until a phone call then it started freezing after mile and had to do many hard resets to get it working again ,in th eend i had to put it into flight mode to get it to work properly
does anyone know how to over come this in any way ..i know tt5 is new but i use my pda for updating traffic and recieving of calls
thans

Heard there are issues with this andy, it seems xda2i doesn't like a headset plus something else with bluetooth running at the same time.
jase

On the Tom Tom website it says version 5 is "available soon", and you already have it? How can that be?

got the upgrade pack mate, came in the post on thursday.

Where did you get it from then? I can't buy it from the Tom Tom website, because it just says "available soon".
Or is that just the software upgrade?
Then again, if the software is ready, the whole package should be available too, including the GPS device. Where do I get it?

No Idea, i found the webpage on the tom tom website for the upgrade and got it that way.
Don't know why the whole package is not avalable yet, have you checked other pda shops on the web to see if any?

TT% upgrade
Log out and re-log in on the main tom tom page, and it should appear for you...
Not too impressed with TT5 so far, but only loaded it last night
(TT Wired GPS for my car and oter Bluetooth GPS for when I'm not...)

TT5 and bluetooth.
Forgot to mention, I got in my car and had previously been using my BT GPS. XDA connected to BT car kit no worries, then I plugged in wired GPS - selected this GPS and TT5 turned BlueTooth off.... thanks Tom Tom, so I had to turn it back on for my car kit connection..
Pain in the butt.. :evil:

What should appear?

link
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=0da80196511a7d17dfe0ee4f76efc119
thanks for replies i should also mention i am using wired gps ,i reset my ppc this morning and actually got it to work received calls updated traffic but as soon as i got a gps signal in the car it all went pete tong
some 1 is gonna have to do something i got my xda2i because they said it would work ,and it don't ..i have to keep turning flight mode on when i use tt

Hi all,
Got my Tomtom 5 Today yet the tomtom website says its still in the warehouse
Maybe they will send me another one
I doubt it, at least I have got it now
Cheers
Lee

bugger!!! I have just bought an XDAIIi and installed 3.07 last week. It worked great until (as bluebotel has said in another thread) you go into another cell and the phone communicayes with the mast, then it locks up. I have tested tomtom 3.07 with the phone off, on, making a call with the GPS plug in and not plug in. Basically if the phone has to do something (call, change cell) and the GPS is plugged in, tomtom freezes. If you run tomtom but do not have the GPS plugged in (i.e. tomtom isnt actually navigating) then tomtom doesn't lock up when the phoned is used, so its obviously the GPS reciever, coupled with tomtom that buggering it up!!
Not sure what to do now, do i send the xda back, get different software or will there be a fix. I was going to try tomtom5, but looks like it suffers the same problem!! What a bag of crap!!!!
Does anyonbe know if it works with XDAIIs or XDAIII???

Hi all,
After receiving my Tomtom navigator 5 yesterday, I managed to drive to work this morning (Approx 20miles) without a lockup with the Phone ON!
We shall see how it performs whilst I use it. Upto now it seems a well worth product upgrade. In fact the thing that impresses me the most is the frame rate of the Navigator View. Its so smooth I could be playing a game. No screen jerks.
The whole software seems faster and fluent with integrated menus and web content. If the XDA2i doesn't lock up like it did on tomtom 3 then I will be more than pleased.
I'll keep you posted
Cheers
Lee

sounds promising!!!
If you go to the product section of Tomtom site it says the i is suported, but if you go to the support pages, it doesn't appear on the list!!!
I have a cracked copy of 5 to test before i buy it, but can't get it to inmstal

It didn't take me long to find how to make it freeze!
With the phone on it seems to be ok, still needs more testing, however; when you try to download traffic or weather updates using the GPRS, it freezes everytime.
So basically don't download updates or even have GPRS on in the background!
I'm still unsure if the phone causes it to freeze, its looking like it may do yet I haven't seem it do that yet only the GPRS connection.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers
Blue

What a bag of cak!!
Just installed 5 and went to play in the car, but i can't get the GPS reciever to connect. I am using a holux cr100 cradle (wired), i select "other wired" and it just sits there searching, saying "no gps device". It worked fine on TT3

bluebotle said:
With the phone on it seems to be ok, still needs more testing, however; when you try to download traffic or weather updates using the GPRS, it freezes everytime.
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This is the same issue that I have with TT5...though if you perform the traffic update whilst connected to your PC instead, the update works fine and doesn't crash. It seems that the data is downloaded but then it can't update it into TT. If you wait a few mins, then tap the screen you get a slow menu, go to the TT traffic bit and it says "last updated 0 mins ago", so something is happening.
I'd appreciate any thoughts on this as this is the one thing that is currently hacking me off about TT5...everything else works fine.
Cheers
Ant

astryger said:
On the Tom Tom website it says version 5 is "available soon", and you already have it? How can that be?
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*cough* BitTorrent *cough*

People who bought TT3 were sent out TT5 via CD recently.

I have had the same problem with the BT GPS. What I do is go into the menu and tap on GPS status. Magically the GPS starts to work and it shows all the fixes.
From then on wards it works fine other than the lockup when using GPRS to update Traffic.
Cheers
Lee

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TomTom Navigator 5 Upgrade Released!!!

Hi just to let you know, TomTom have just released their upgrade from either TomTom Navigator 2 or 3 to Navigator 5. This can be found on their website.
It costs 59 Euros and your getting the whole of europe on cd plus the new software interface.
I've just ordered my copy. Lets hope it doesn't take 5 weeks to arrive :roll:
It can be found here..
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=6148c3366d84713d07ab4770d8adb478
Cheers,
lydiachris
link's gone. You sure that wasn't teh upgrade for tomtom Go?
this one works...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=06fcb14888137955f86f48863bc37a85
I've ordered one but had no email confirmation... is this normal?
JB
You'll receive it shortly.. I ordered it at 11.56 CET; and received the confirmation an hour later.
I hope it works correctly on WM2005; I know it has the same backlight problem as Tomtom 4.4.
Still says "available soon" there is no upgrade path.
same old tom tom crap!
Oh well, been waiting for the much anticipated version 5, just ordered it, up to 5 weeks to wait!! It's on a bunch of CDs again (probably un-labelled and needing a 2nd navigation programme to find your way around them!!!) what happened to the pre loaded SD cards featured in their test copies?
And then there are still issues with back-lighting & probably SD problems too.
Just pour money down a black hole, get refused activation codes because you've had your phone replaced by the insurance, am I the only one who feels that TomTom is treating us like a load of brainless jerks! I've just gone 6 months without my expensive Nav3 and had to rely on 'Good old' Microsoft and their reliable Autoroute 2005!
GGGRRRRR!
Since I have no GPS< I used to use TT3 as a stand-alone route planner. For some reason I am not able to do this in TT5, since it keeps searching for a GPS signal. Does anyone here now how to use TT5 as a route planner without a GPS attached?
Has anyone actually recived either confirmation of their upgrade being shipped or it being despatched by UPS yet?!?!?!
yeah mines been posted, should be here today or tomorrow...
Cheers,
JB
Recieved and up and running (on diamond 1.2 rom). Works really well, loads of improvements over 3. My only complaint is that you can't customise the menus anymore like you could on 3. BTW it comes with full maps for all of western Europe... bargain!!
JB
No Maps Found Error In Tom Tom Navigator 5
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Hi guys/gals
I got hold of version 5 program upgrade which included the Benelux maps and loaded it up on my PDA but upon running the tom tom shortcut from my Today Screen I get the following error once I have okayed the legal splash screen at the start of the application
'No Maps Found'
It gives me an option to download maps, why is it not picking up the UK one I already have
My UK map is located on my SD card and I was previously running version v4.40 and this picked up the maps without any problem
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance
tomtom 5 help
Hi All, Ive just up-dated my Mada Compact / XDA Mini / Magician with tomtom 5 navigator.... its very impressive but had a few teething problems so as your always helping me out I thought id post this :
If you have an original tomtom bluetooth GPS reciever and want to up-grade to tomtom 5 but are using tomtom 3, make sure you remove POI (seperate program your speed cam sounds wont work on tomtom 5 you have to select a deafult sound) and remove tomtom 3 completly (I did a hard reset after a load of messing), then bond again with your reciever.... then when you go through the set-up select the tomtom reciever, :lol: then go to the GPS settings in prefernces and make sure you click on the little text that say 'NO GPS device' top left hand corner (its not a button just text), this will prompt you to restart the device... do it and then your GPS reciver should work ok, but if you dont re-start it wont finish the connection. Not sure if im the only one effected by this issue I did a google and nothing came up so if you have problems this should sort them out. I only found out when I was showing the fault to a friend and he clicked the text by accident! apart from that I would definatly recommend tomtom 5 up-grade Maps are much quicker for zoom + and - ... any other questions or help just ask!...
Cheers, James
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your answer Software Guru
By the way software guru, I think that the reason tomtom 5 is not working is because you have the UK maps on from tomtom 4, these are not compatible with tomtom 5...
I have the uk version of tomtom 5... E-mail :roll: me for further details....
James
I have just got Tom Tom 5 for my M2000 - seems to work ok apart from the fact that the onscreen keyboard function when entering a destination is not there - having to use the slide out keyboard which when driving is a little awkward.
Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, have they managed to fix it? I have recently upgraded the BT stack to 3.9 which has resulted in some things disappearing - - when I soft reset, the folder called 'My' has disappeared and all the contact info and task have to be synchronized.
I also have a number of TT files in the storage memory - would this affect the operation of the onscreen keyboard?
The files in storage memory are
Tom Tom Today
Tom Tom Bluetooth Support
Tom Tom Navigator
Tom Tom Contacts Navigation
Any help greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Rich
hi i have a couple questions :: does tomtom 5 work on a hp pda ??
and some body a idea where i can fund some keys ;-) for the maps
greets
Same Problem with Keyboard
Hi
I have the Same problem with keyboard. The screen keyboard is not there on my XDA2s. Such a problem does not exist with the XDA2.
Also when i upgraded to Windows Mobile 2005, the screen goes black as soon as I open TomTom 5
Any suggesstions with such problems?
Nader
TTN 5 keyboard
There's another (long!) thread running on keyboards. Basically it seems that we have to use the build in keyboard until they release some patches. The shift/Fnc key problems do not occur in the GB 7 digit postcode selection so its usable on that.
Koksie said:
Since I have no GPS< I used to use TT3 as a stand-alone route planner. For some reason I am not able to do this in TT5, since it keeps searching for a GPS signal. Does anyone here now how to use TT5 as a route planner without a GPS attached?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that fell into TTN's trap! Like me I'm sure you've figured out by now that there is a seperate "Advanced planning" menu that gives you this function and lots more - to be fair it works well with lots of extra options. It's a pity there is not an operating guide that highlights these features - expecially for those used to older versions of the software.
M6 Fan said:
I have just got Tom Tom 5 for my M2000 - seems to work ok apart from the fact that the onscreen keyboard function when entering a destination is not there. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, have they managed to fix it?
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Me too. And no, don't have a fix. Very annoying. On the other hand, doesn't the TTN5 legal message say that you shouldn't drink and drive? No wait, enter a route and drive? :wink:

TOMTOM Navigator 5

Got new version still freezing on XDA2i second phone.
Also notice a lot of streets are missingfrom Version 5 that are on TT3 as I
Contacted TOM TOM told me that they must be new roads. I INFORM THEM THAT THEY WERE MORE THAT 100 YERAS OLD. Thank God for A to Z
o2 have inform me that ther is a soft ware problum for the XDA2i and should be out soon but then I have been told that for the last 3 months if any one wants phone number for 02 it is 01133881624 as they told me that they have not had many complaints may be we should bombard the phone line and then they may relise there is a big problum
Also see that in this month PDA magazine they give XDA2i a 85% rating
i have emailed them got a reply today of all days
85% is a rather good rating ,maybe things will look up with tomtom as i for 1 am getting tired of flight mode as i keep forgetting to undo it when i stop ,
as i use it all the time even when i know where i am going ,stupid i know but on few occations it has come in use when i see a traffic jam
Same here miss a lot of call why in flight mode so have to stop never now and then just to check mail box
Crashing TT5
For all you guys that have TT5 that is crashing while in use.
I've read a solution somewhere that might work (haven't tried it myself):
1. remove the TT5 Bluetooth manager
2. Start Bluetooth prior to TT5
3. Start TT5.
Try it and post your results.....
Do not use bluetooth got wired GPS
yeah same here use wired gps
got an email from o2 they are working on getting the o2 compatable but at the moment it is up to tomtom ,soooo hopefully the rom update will work .....and why it is so late ...but we can only live in hope

TomTom Home with TomTom 7

Ok, so I KNOW I'm probably opening myself up here for some flaming, but at this point willing to take a chance... I've seen it somewhere, but no amount of searching is turning the answer up for me again. I have a Touch Pro and need to get TomTom Home to connect to my device, but it will not do so. I'd like to do this so that I can get some maps. I have the application installed in ProgramFiles\Navigator which is where, in my understanding, it should be. Any tips?
Its not that you'll get the GPS straight on, specially while sitting at a place..
The way i got it is via setting the GPS as Internal-GPS in TomTom and drove for a while..
I can tell you that it works as i was also getting suspicious that its broken or something but however it lags a little bit.. Once the satellites are found then there is no issue using TomTom as a pedestrian..
I still couldn't find why it works sometimes and why it doesn't..
fawaad said:
Its not that you'll get the GPS straight on, specially while sitting at a place..
The way i got it is via setting the GPS as Internal-GPS in TomTom and drove for a while..
I can tell you that it works as i was also getting suspicious that its broken or something but however it lags a little bit.. Once the satellites are found then there is no issue using TomTom as a pedestrian..
I still couldn't find why it works sometimes and why it doesn't..
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Haha, no no, I know of the lag. I'm speaking of the TomTom Home program for my PC. I'd like to be able to connect the device to my PC and install new maps, use mapshare, etc. But since you mention it, hopefully someone comes up with a real solution for the lag problem on the device.
By the way, I am speaking of TomTom Home 2... I can connect to the other just fine but it doesn't really help me.
anyone? I know I've seen it somewhere. A link would even be appreciated!
There is no way to get tomtom 7 USA maps straight foward so far. May be after at&t Fuze launch?
The solution now is log in to your tomtom home acount and choose tomtom 720 as your device. Buy the maps, save them into you PC then manually copy to your SD card. Install tomtom cab is floating around in this forum, then re-connect to tomtom home to download extra voices and maps corrections.
Right, I have all that so far. My problem is TomTom Home doesn't recognize my device at all. It just keeps the 3 step menu up that basically says "connect your device".
same problem too

ATT Fuze GPS hanging problem

Hi all,
I just got the Fuze and am having some strange problems with it's GPS. I am able to get a lock. However, the GPS data stream appears to be 'hanging' randomly.
I mean, after I get a lock, it would stream NMEA data for a few seconds, and then just randomly stops. I use the program VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to see how many satellites I am picking up. This program has consistently worked on the iMate 8502, Epix, and my iPAQ 910. So I don't think it's a software problem. I am also experiencing the same problem with my GPS software, namely Garmin XT and OCN8. After a while. the program would announce that it has lost GPS lock.
Anyone experiencing this, and should I exchange it? Thanks for your feedback. Other than that, I was surprised at how much I like the device.
sooby77 said:
Hi all,
I just got the Fuze and am having some strange problems with it's GPS. I am able to get a lock. However, the GPS data stream appears to be 'hanging' randomly.
I mean, after I get a lock, it would stream NMEA data for a few seconds, and then just randomly stops. I use the program VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to see how many satellites I am picking up. This program has consistently worked on the iMate 8502, Epix, and my iPAQ 910. So I don't think it's a software problem. I am also experiencing the same problem with my GPS software, namely Garmin XT and OCN8. After a while. the program would announce that it has lost GPS lock.
Anyone experiencing this, and should I exchange it? Thanks for your feedback. Other than that, I was surprised at how much I like the device.
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Having the same issue
Out of the box it was fine with Tomtom7 but since I sync'd up exchange, added a BT headset etc I am getting the same problem.
It does a toggle every 4 or 5 secs between GPS lock and no signal
Know it's not a TT issue since once it started this I sync'd my BT GPS puck and it's rock solid
Just saw that this GPS problem is a known issue with the Raphael on the various threads at xda-dev. It appears that a soft-reset seems to fix the problem, but will return later. Soft-resetting each time to use the GPS is an unacceptable solution.
Same problem with iGuidance 4.0. I would get a fix then the GPS signal will go away for a second or 2 and then comes back. This continues to happen in a 10 second interval.
I have also installed Google map on my phone and it works flawlessly.
Soooooo annoying.
Try some of these methods. I haven't tried them yet but will try as soon as i get a chance which would be tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439002
I have the same problem has anyone found a fix for this or something that works then always soft reset? This is so frustrating!
try a diff ROM. Stock Rom sucks!

[APP] Navigon MobileNavigator for Android

I know there are a few Navigon threads but they are for other phones than the Nexus and quite old. The Navigon site says there is a try and buy, but it doesn't show on the market. Not sure if it's because I am rooted. Whatever, I have bought the app anyway because I have had good experiences with the Navigon units here in the states in the past.
So far the app has installed and when running it for the first time, Navigon says it will download about 2gb's of data (thank god I just bought a 16gb microSD lol). Also it is recommended that the phone be in a charger and connected to a wlan so a constant connection can be held to download such a large file. Also danger of being throttled lol by tmo lol...but thats another thread altogether.
So far so good downloading but it's 15% done with 36 min to go on the download. Thank goodness my boss just installed a wireless router in the office!
I'll update with any new news on the product once downloaded.
Went home for lunch and used Navigon for the first time. Out of the box, the voice prompts are WAY to low. I could hardly hear anything. I maxed out the app volume and no change. I then went to the sound settings and maxed out everything, prior, I had my notifications tone set pretty low, but once I maxed the notification sound, the Navigon came to life!! Kinda silly IMO. Not media but notification volume!?
Next I figured I turn on my bluetooth and connect to my blueant S4. I have the 1.5 software (downloading the 1.6 update now). And the Navigon does route to the S4 but also the handset itself! I'll update if the blueant update fixes that or not.
Now using it as a plain jane navigator, I think is on par with the Navigon products I have used in the past. It works pretty well, but the newer roads have not been updated as of yet, but google maps have the updated/newer roads. I am in San Antonio, about a half hour from the downtown area so there is a lot of new roads being built.
Conclusion:
The short and dirty of it is that the Navigon is pretty steep in price (~$39.98USD) for the first two weeks and then increases in price to a whopping (~$59.98USD). Is it worth it? I'd say try co-pilot first because 1. it's cheaper even with the traffic add-on and 2. You can always try Navigon after you decide if co-pilot doesn't jive with what you want to do.
The only other plus is that if you cannot get a cell signal to run the navigation (a la google nav), you can use the downloaded 2gb file as a guide and the app will reconnect once it receives a signal.
how does it handle music apps. I mean if you have music playing on, does it pause the music (or reduce music volume) during voice guidance?
arkavat said:
how does it handle music apps. I mean if you have music playing on, does it pause the music (or reduce music volume) during voice guidance?
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Haven't tested that part out yet. Will report back once I do. Thanks for reminding me, even though I do not really use the music player in the car all that much.
Music a no-go...
...when used with Navigon. Both are on at the same time and no volume lowering is done on the music side when the prompts are spoken.
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Next I figured I turn on my bluetooth and connect to my blueant S4. I have the 1.5 software (downloading the 1.6 update now). And the Navigon does route to the S4 but also the handset itself! I'll update if the blueant update fixes that or not.
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Hi, I was wondering if you got a fix for this or not? I'm getting the same problem with my Desire HD - I'm not sure if the problem is the phone, the S4, or Navigon. The S4 came with 1.6 firmware so there's nothing to upgrade to. I've emailed both Blueant and Navigon support, but my 24 hour trial period is up, so I've uninstalled for now.
Hope you can help! Thanks.
preacher65 said:
Hi, I was wondering if you got a fix for this or not? I'm getting the same problem with my Desire HD - I'm not sure if the problem is the phone, the S4, or Navigon. The S4 came with 1.6 firmware so there's nothing to upgrade to. I've emailed both Blueant and Navigon support, but my 24 hour trial period is up, so I've uninstalled for now.
Hope you can help! Thanks.
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No same issue when updated to 1.6 on the blueant. Currently Navigon is my backup navi.
Thanks. I emailed Navigon, who said they don't support A "Bluetooth audio only" option, but CoPilot handles the audio perfectly. Unfortunately it doesn't seem nearly as good at finding routes.
Do you know if this is this specific to the S4?
preacher65 said:
Thanks. I emailed Navigon, who said they don't support A "Bluetooth audio only" option, but CoPilot handles the audio perfectly. Unfortunately it doesn't seem nearly as good at finding routes.
Do you know if this is this specific to the S4?
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Not 100% but I found that the Navigon uses the same tones from the notification settings. Meaning one needs to increase the volume on the notification settings to hear the voice prompts rather than media, which I think would best fit. If they did that, the navigon software may work via bt audio, but I am no coder, but just speculating.
I am now using this as my backup navi because in some areas in TX, there are very spotty territories for 3g even edge coverage for tmobile usa, so having this is a plus in my opinion, but was it worth the hefty pricetag? I have to say no if you are looking for this as a primary navi software. I would rather pay some additional cash for a dedicated gps unit.
BUT, using this had me thinking back to my Sony Ericsson days where I used a gps puck to use as a gps navi. amAzegps.com First off its friggin free lol, worldwide coverage, multilanguage support and pretty accurate for a free gps. I haven't used this in a few years but I am glad it is still around. It is a nice proggy. I would suggest all who cannot use google or want to try an alternate navi program.
Thanks, that's interesting. I noticed that CoPilot's changelog specifically listed fixes for BT handsfree, so I guess they are more interested in compatibility with different BT devices. I can understand it's hard for Navigon to ensure compatibility with every bit of hardware, but this particular problem does seem to be due the way they stream the sound to the BT device, so must be fixable.
I'm using CoPilot now, and it works well enough, but if I choose to go a different route to the one suggested, rather than calculating a new route, it keeps telling me to do a U-turn around and go back. Still, I don't use the satnav every day, so it's probably good enough for what I need.
Just got an update on the Navigon. Not sure what the update was. No changelog I can find and I could not find it in the market anymore for some reason.
On vacation right now attending my brothers wedding out of state. So I'll report back if there were any changes.
Anyone else?
Unfortunately I gave up and switched to CoPilot, but I did learn here that the CarUI app on the market has a fix for the bluetooth issue, if you start MobileNavigator from CarUI.

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