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XDA, Parrot3 and TomTom3

Hi all
I am new to this forum but I could really do with your wisdom.
I have an XDA 2 that I use for business use.
However I need a system for GPS and a hands free driving kit. I suspect that a bluetooth system is the way forward.
However reading these pages I believe that there have been several issues that have caused a great deal of consternation with the TomTom system.
O2 have really messed me around over the last year with their hands free kit. They have been unable to supply anything and with the new vehicle legislation they have been totally unprepared.
The system that I thought about using would be...
XDA2
Tomtom 3
Parrot CK3000
Has anybody tried it and if so is there anything else that I would need, ie cables, brackets, chargers etc.
Regards
TOP

I am using
xda2 with TOMTOM3 Bluetooth.
For Handsfree I use a Jabra Bt250 and it work fine.

Maybe you need to bluetooth Tools

I use a Parrot CK3000 carkit together with my Bleutooth TomTom GPS. It works all very good. The only thing is that the sound of your XDA is not comming via the carkit, but in the future that will be possible (with an upgrade of my XDA).
But for now it works very well.

I have a CK3000 and it works OK on its own. I have had some issues with integrating it with the Car Audio though (new Nissan Primera), but that is another matter.
The other thing I would point out... It is a real pain if you also have a Blue Tooth headset. You need to keep renaming from the Headset to the Carkit and vice versa.
The new version of BT Tools does sort out the multiple headset problem, however..... my CK3000 will not work with the new version, so I am using the older version till this is fixed.
My suggestion may be a fixed mount in the car of some sort, especially if charging the unit is required. That is the way I am thinking of going unless BTTools or the ROM is updated soon.

Thanks for all your help, it is much appreciated.
From what you have said everything should work fine.
With regard to the headset, I am determined to rid myself of this as I suffer from headaches if I wear it too much.
Surely once the Parrot is paired then can it not be set as the default vox unit?
EelcoV
Thanks for that. Its a great relief, however when you say that the sound is not coming from the car speakers is that for the TomTom system? Surely that is a good thing as I don't want my Mozart, Mendelson or Motorhead to be interupted with..."At the junction turn left!"
IanF
I am planning to use my Nissan Navara as my main vehicle for the Parrot kit, is the problem you are experiencing a Nissan thing?
Jupiter
Thank you from the moon of Titan...I will look for Blue Tools.
Does anyone know if a charger and bracket comes with either of these systems.
Regards
TOP

With the TomTom Navigator comes a brodit cradle, which will charge your XDA.

The Otter's Pocket said:
I am planning to use my Nissan Navara as my main vehicle for the Parrot kit, is the problem you are experiencing a Nissan thing?
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It is in the Primera because of the new Central (N-Form) console. The ISO connectors supplied on Parrot do not fit the Radio, which is built into the console, and there is no conversion kit on the market at the moment.
I was luck and had a Nokia Phone kit installed and intrgrated into the car when I bought it, so I have done a bit of extra wiring to this kit which has made it acceptable.
Check you can get an ISO Harness for your car model/radio.
Ian

EelcoV said:
With the TomTom Navigator comes a brodit cradle, which will charge your XDA.
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That's Incorrect, you can buy Tomtom Navigator as a bundle with the TomTom Carkit, this is not the same as a Broditcradle.
I'm currently using a Carcomm XDAII cradle and it's superb. Available in the UK from TotalPDA.

Bluetooth handsfree/GPS
Hi all
Another newbie! I am contemplating buying TomTom3 Bluetooth for use with my xda2 (I want to be able to move it between my family's 2 vehicles). Any thoughts (I am not particularly concerned about the TomTom 3 Bluetooth GPS receiver's limited battery life as I would anticipate using it with a dual pda/gps charger cable)
I believe that there may also be an issue with using Bluetooth GPS and my Jabra BT250 headset together? I see Bluetooth Tools mentioned on here as a potential solution to this - is this a download package? Where can I obtain it?
Any help much appreciated. 8)

I'm using an O2 XDA2 with the standard bluetooth software (ie not using bluetooth tools or anyone elses bluetooth stack).
I use TomTom Navigator 3 with their own bluetooth GPS receiver and I also use a bluetooth telephone headset unit as well.
Both work fine - even at the same time.
I've used both a Plantronics M3000 headset and also a Parrot CK3000 in-car handsfree headset.
Either work fine either on their own or in parallel with the TomTom BT GPS.
The only problemmatical area is that the PDA can only pair with one bluetooth "headset" at a time - so if you want to use both a BT car kit and also a separate BT headset, you need to keep deleting one pairing and pairing to the other.
I gave up and lent my Plantronics headset to someone else - and now I just use the Parrot CK3000 car kit.
Oneday, the XDA2 might support the handsfree profile as well as the headset profile, but for the time being we're stuck with just the latter.
I tried installing bluetooth-tools to see if that would give me a hands-free profile but couldn't seem to get anything to work so I de-installed it quick...!

i got a sound problem with my new Asus P535!!

Hi
I got a sound problem with my new ASUS P535, in which the phone is all the time thinking that i'm using the headset even when its unplugged, so no sound can be heard even the headset is unplugged only when somebody calls there is the ring tone, but nor the mike or the phone speaker are working
Any ideas?!?
P.S. I'm using WM6, & I already tried to flash it many times for no results!
Bash

Hi,
I had the same problem with my p535, but I found the way to fix it. The problem is that the micro switch was jammed in the headset-port, so to fix the problem; you should just hit hardly the bottom of the PDA onto a table or other hard surface. There is no problem with the software.
Regards,
Sagramor de Zyn

I have tried this solution but it didn't work.
Are you sure this is the only way to fix this problem.
Also when i use the device with the headset, the sound of the MP3's are like you listen something under water. And during a call, the opponent's voice sounds so deep, i can hardly hear it.

Than you have a bit bigger problem, the hole port is ****ed, maybe one of the connection is broken or the hole port is moved from where it should be. It just happening with mp3 or with phone as well? if the phone is not working as well with the headset, than you have to bring to service, 'couse the port is broken, if just the mp3 not workin' than I don't have a clue.

Sagramor de Zyn said:
Hi,
I had the same problem with my p535, but I found the way to fix it. The problem is that the micro switch was jammed in the headset-port, so to fix the problem; you should just hit hardly the bottom of the PDA onto a table or other hard surface. There is no problem with the software.
Regards,
Sagramor de Zyn
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It worked for me! Thanks a lot!
I thought my PDA speaker was crapped someway..
Anyway, I did not hit it, just plugging in and out the mini jack connector several times within a short time.
Regards,
Xel

Sagramor de Zyn said:
Hi,
I had the same problem with my p535, but I found the way to fix it. The problem is that the micro switch was jammed in the headset-port, so to fix the problem; you should just hit hardly the bottom of the PDA onto a table or other hard surface. There is no problem with the software.
Regards,
Sagramor de Zyn
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It worked for me as well Thanks a lot!!!!!!
Bobek

Sound problem again (mini jack connector replacement)
Hello again!
My P535 made a long way since the prevoius sound problem.
My device's mini jack connector has been damaged, and I wish to replace it with a new one.
Could anyone help me how to replace the mini jack connector? Unfortunatelly the oroginal connector was so badly damaged that it cannot be used anymore.
My device cannot play sound and cannot record any voice, but the speaker and microphone is fully intact though. I have to repair it but I don't know what type of mini jack connector I need. I heared that if I use some incompatible connector that could damage the device for good.
I'd also find out that two wire must contact to allow the internal speaker and mike to function, for now, the device "thinks" a jack cable is plugged.
Sorry for my bad english..
Could anyone help?
Regards,
Xel

well, I have a bluetooth ad2p stereo headset (platrinocs), but the akkumulator got busted so I'm in a hurry to repair my phone's analog mini jack output, that will will solve the speaker and mike problem too.
/hovewer, the wireless bluetooth headsets has a serious disadvantage
It cannot connect automaticly to the bluetooth headset when a phone call is incoming, or when you enter proximity whith the headset or with the device (if you left either on desk). i've tried patches and apps to make autoconnect available, but no luck.. analog output is much more advance then bluetooth high quality audio for one reason the hardware eq and software mixers/
the main problem, is that the old mini jack output is damaged to dust, i cannot recognize it which type to replace. googling the specs of the device did not helped me identifying the mini jack connector. I've learned that there are many types, some of them are used to headset functions different at model types, even differs at manufacturers.
Please, anyone could help I would greatly appriciate it!
bye,
Xel

Contana said:
I have tried this solution but it didn't work.Are you sure this is the only way to fix this problem.
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check mini jack output, plug in and move a bit carefully the mini jack cable in output.
probably some air duster or contact spray could help too.
bye,
Xel

thnx a lot... u r great! it works! u r my hero...

PLEASE HELP!!!Treo 750 and audio socket problem

Hi guys! Hope you can give me a hand on this...
I´ve been got my palm treo 750 since last March and everything goes really good with it, in fact i love it, but 2 days ago i plugged the headphones in it and only could listen through the speaker of the treo. I tried it sometimes more but nothing happened, the only way it works is to plug the headphones and do a soft-reset, when it starts i can listen to music or whatever through the headphones, and when i disconnect them and turn it off for a while, it happens again, so i have to do another soft-reset with the headphones plugged to listen though the headphones again.
1) I suppose it´s a hardware malfunctioning stuff, but maybe it´s not copmletely broken and could work fine with a soft appl, is that possible?
2) If not, does any one have specific photos and info about how to do the surgery?
3) In case i do the surgery, is it possible to change the socket from 2.5 to 3.5 mm? I mean, it´s only a hardware situation or do I have to install or change something in the treo´s software.
Anything would be great except take it to the technical service bc it could take a very long time to get it back, and i use to need it daily.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE

You may want to take a look at this site...
http://treotricks.blogspot.com/2006/01/treo-650-audio-jack-fix-part-1.html
Also, I had my headset jack stick and I used WD-40 lubricant applied to the inside of the jack using the headset plug repeatedly dipped in the WD-40 and inserted in the jack.
I've had no problem since the WD-40 released the stuck jack and my audio was restored.
Good luck, either way!

tylerdog said:
You may want to take a look at this site...
http://treotricks.blogspot.com/2006/01/treo-650-audio-jack-fix-part-1.html
Also, I had my headset jack stick and I used WD-40 lubricant applied to the inside of the jack using the headset plug repeatedly dipped in the WD-40 and inserted in the jack.
I've had no problem since the WD-40 released the stuck jack and my audio was restored.
Good luck, either way!
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hello, thanks for replying, but it´s the same way to fix it on treo 750 (700w)? I would prefer fix it by myself bc I don´t even kive in the US so, and my treo still as warranty, but dont want to send to technical service bc this could take a long time.
is there any application such as headcold v1 but for windows mobile?
I think in my case could be repaired by software bc when I do a soft-reset with the headphones plugged it works perfectly again.

SOLVED!!!
I just used WD-40 to clean the audio socket but i think that was not the solution. the thing is very simple.
From my point of view I think when the handheld is turned off, you should plug the headphones, and turn the device on with the headphones plugged in, and this should work.
my problem was i used to plugged them in when the device was on, and in this situation the socket does NOT recognize the headphones properly, so just plug them when the palm is OFF.
sounds a silly thing but in my case it worked
hope this help anyone who needs it

Any possibility to disable USB handsfree?

Are there any possibilities to disable USB handsfree of Kaiser?
I'm asking this because I purchased THB Bury car HF kits for both of my cars and they've been working OK but there's something I don't like: voices of TomTom 6 are totally muted while the phone is in its cradle. Usually the voice comes from phone's HF speaker but now when it's disabled since the phone is connected to USB for charging and HF purposes, TomTom 6 won't make a sound.
So I'd really appreciate of someone would know how to disable (and able) USB HF functionality while the phone is in its cradle.

I figure a car kit would route the audio to your car speakers?

sniperess said:
I figure a car kit would route the audio to your car speakers?
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Yep, that's true. I'm afraid that THB Bury HF works only during the phonecalls. Otherwise it's totally muted
If I'll release the phone from its cradle, the sound of TomTom 6 will be audible again. But when the phone is situated in its cradle, TomTom 6 will be totally muted

It's not fit for purpose really is it? What use is a hands free kit for this device which mutes the GPS audio? The 'all in one' nature of the Kaiser is clearly one of the major selling points for some people (me in particular).
There are a few threads developing on this theme here and elsewhere which at the very least may warn other people off. Bury should withdraw the cradle until it works properly with the Kaiser.
I find that the handfree earplugs and mic work fine for both phone and TT6 audio so it's something to do with the "Car" profile which the Bury cradle causes the Kaiser to switch to which causes the problem.
I'm going to try a Bury BT adaptor to see if it at least leaves the Kaiser internal speaker active while routing phone audio to the car speaker. It would be a compromise but as things stand, with the hard wired cradle, it's no use to me at all aside from being am expensive brick of a hands free/charging solution.
I'll post an update or an eBay ad shortly.....

This is indeed very annoying and I'm afraid it won't be solved.
I have contacted Bury, they answered that the TT6 software doesn't give a mute signal and that because of this the sound doesn't go to the in car radio. I saw another post on this forum which mentions the same answer.
Thus I contacted TomTom support, but they state that they never activate any mute signal. They only pass some sound information to the phone and the phone should decide somehow if the sound should be directed to the speaker or to the carkit.
Finally I opened a case at HTC, but they already answered I should contact Bury or TomTom...
In Dutch we have a very good proverb for this: "Van het kastje naar de muur gestuurd worden" (which means everyone points their finger to another).

I've now replaced my hardwired Bury cradles for the Kaiser with the Bluetooth versions (and TyTn charging leads - extra) and they seem to work fine.
The phone works hands free, charges, mutes the radio when it should and leaves TomTom talking to me through the internal Kaiser speaker. Tom Tom only mutes during a call. Voice quality is fine for my use.
The cradle can be used with various bluetooth phones and, rather than being made to measure for a particular phone, it is adjustable to fit pretty well any type. One slight resulting nuisance is that I occasionally switch on the camera as I insert the phone (the camera button is on the side where one of the clamps is). Easily sorted by pressing the red key on the phone however.
So I'm a happy punter again. Thanks to phonejunkie for sorting me out.
Alistair.

Alistair, which bluetooth version did you use? It seems Bury have two models:
THB UNI Bluetooth Adapter for the Take and Talk System 8 hands-free car kit and
THB UNI Bury Take and Talk System 8 Bluetooth Cradle.
btw, I got a response from THB stating that none of these was suitable for the Kaiser...

[Q] Help! No audio via plugged in headset, not BT

Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!

CrashMurdock said:
Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!
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Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards

Pere said:
Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards
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Hi Pere,
I had searched and read in the forums of others having problems with connecting audio out to stereo because of impedance differences, and another's headset mic wouldn't work, e.g., so was happy when this 'smart-talk' headset worked fine when I tried it in the shop on my TG01. Later when I plugged it in at home, TG01 simply wouldn't switch to headset mode. I went back to the shop and tried two other sets, but they're the same model and neither worked. Wonder why it worked the first time. Do you know of a solution...cab file with a manual software switch, or something? I ordered a stereo bluetooth headset off eBay, but it won't arrive for another 2-3 weeks.
Thanks for the quick response!
Cheers...

It is most unlikely to be the TG01 which has a fault as such - but as Pere suggests to do with the processor controlled function switching depending on what is connected. The uUSB Port responds differently depending on the resistance presented across various of the 5 pins.
In essence something like a 4-8 ohm load is insuffiicent; typically a 32 ohm impedance set of earphones will work fine or if you want a universal adapter to allow plugging anying in the make up a lead with a 10k Ohm resistor between Pin 2 and ground and Pin 3 and ground. The effective resisance 'seen' by the device remains high enough to cause the software to switch the port function.
Incidentally, a short across Pin 2 and Pin 3 causes the device to go into 'charge' mode.
Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly.
If I think of anything else will add.
Good luck and best regards,
Kevin

kevinpwhite said:
...Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly...
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Hi Kevin,
I appreciate your advice and just tried the soft reset with no joy. I plugged the charger in and once the amber light came on I unplugged the charger from the usb port then immediately pressed the white reset button on the back. After it rebooted...no joy. Next I tried the same thing but instead unplugged the charger from the wall socket while still plugged into the phone, again, no joy. I also used a magnifying glass and flashlight to inspect the USB port and it looks very clean with no corrosion. Hopefully I can find another phone shop tomorrow with a different brand of headphones to try. This is certainly frustrating. I just found this quote and it couldn't convey my feelings any better:
"Looks like the micro usb is designed to break the connector more than anything else. No visible advantage over the mini usb, which clearly looks more durable, both on the connector cable and in the device side connector which looks like it must just be a fragile ultra thin pcb board edge connector that you can snap easier than a toothpick." Xepol at ...intomobile.com forums
Kevin, thanks for your help!
Cheers...

kevinpwhite said:
...so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly
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Greetings Kevin,
I just installed your latest ROM and still no sound to the headset. I'm heading out to the phone shops in the next big town to hopefully find one that will work. Thanks again for your advice.
Cheers...

Finally an Update
Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.

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Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.
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I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
It's a while since that model was released but appears to still be current; havn't looked around other manufacturers recently, but may well be similar alternatives now to consider.
Regards,
Kevin

kevinpwhite said:
I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
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Thanks for the tip, Kevin, I'll check 'em out. I have ordered two sets of BT headphones, but amazingly both deals didn't fly. I ordered a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ canal type earbuds that clip over each ear from e-Cost.com. They refused to ship to my billing address in the US because I ordered online from within Thailand and their system flagged my foreign IP address. I subsequently ordered a Chinese brand stereo BT headset from an eBay seller, but he actually didn't have the "more than 10 available" in stock and had to issue a refund. I've tried Motorola's S9 and their newer S305 behind the head/neck models and didn't care for either of them. The S9 has all the weight at the very back so isn't good for speedwalking and bicycling, which I like to do. The S305 model sounds better but doesn't have enough clamping force to hold the earphones properly against the ears so unless you manually hold them against your ears sound quality suffers. There just doesn't seem to be a great selection of stereo BT headphones. I'm trying to preserve the TG01's mUSB port or would just use my wired set as they sound pretty good.
Thanks again for the tip!