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ok so last night my NBD crashed and is stuck on the NBD splash screen..this is happened before and i just had to reflash it....
the problem this time is my battery is empty...i can jump start it (red and black wire from usb) enough to start the phone, but since i cant load the OS i cant start charging the thing....
1. is there anything i can do short of buying a new battery?
2. how long do u think it would take to force charge it with the black and red usb wires until its full enough to flash?
This happened to me, I plugged my phone into the wall charger and left it for about a half hour, it started taking a charge and I was able to boot it long enough.
however, im using an old razr charger, which the phone doesnt take a charge from unless its on....:-/
Do you get the red charging light when you force charge it? Try different miniUSB charger. Something similar to this happened to me just yesterday and I got it jump started with an iPod wall charger adapter with a normal miniUSB cable.
well by jump starting i mean...i take the battery out..take a usb cable connected to the comp, cut one end off..take the red and black wire and put it to the positive and negative battery ports..since the battery is out f the phone...no lights..
how else can u forcecharge the bat./
Stolli,
with the wall charger you should be able to re-charge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321379
(especially post no.11 and following)
"Normally" also with a USB connection as mentioned by ND4SPD.
Cheers!
Sorry, I didn't know what you meant. What I meant to say by jump starting was just force charging the battery in the Wizard.
I don't know if this was understood properly, but when I meant a normal miniUSB cable was that I stuck that cable into the iPod's wall charger adapter.
Keep trying and good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321375
post no.9 may help ..
When i plug my samsung omnia to the usb port it starts charging automaticly. This can be turned off with a third party app but it is really a pain in the butt as it makes me change the registry every time.
Anyway, i read somewhere that nowadays batteries won't get damage if you start charging them even if they aren't fully drained. Something like "baterry memory effect is a thing from the past."
Is this true?
Thanks in advance!
No, USb charging is the best way to charge your phone according to sticky over in the Nexus One forum. It emits the least ammount of energy to your phone making it less damaging to the battery. Car charging is the worst due to such a fast and high volume transfer rate.
I would agree, usb charging is much better than using the mains and heaven forbid using a car charger.
The usb does not give out the full 5v and while this may be a problem for usb cd-dvd’s or usn hard drives it is an advantage to us as this has the effect of trickle charging the battery and if done correctly this will in time condition your battery.
Many years ago I had the old SPV E100 and this came with a desktop cradle and I used to leave my cradle at work and drop my phone in to the cradle and use the activesync remote control to respond to texts or ‘play’ with my phone.
The E100 would barley last a day on a full charge and the cradle could not charge directly and you had to plug the charger into the cradle to make it charge. Then posts started appearing stating that with a single wire you could make the cradle charge from usb and I quickly made this mod to my cradle and hey presto I was charging from usb while at work.
I did not realise at the time the benefits of usb charging but I used to put my phone on the cradle in the morning, take it out during lunch, plug it back after lunch and take off when I go home and I used to do this almost every day and after six months or so I noticed that I could take my phone off the cradle at 5:00pm on Friday and it would still be running by Sunday lunchtime and all through usb charging.
I think I was lucky as the battery would only last a day and if you did the same on a modern device with a battery that lasts say three or four days it may not work out the same. I now have the TG01 and you will see by the reviews it has a very low capacity battery and using the same kind of trick it seems to be doing the same, its early days but so far so good.
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb?
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb for any other purposes than charging? Like activesync?
I use to connect a few times a day for periods of 4 or 5 minutes and then disconnect, and i am afraid of batterry side effects.
Should i be worried?
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
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Thanks you so much for replying back. I don't have that option you mentioned but i downloaded a app that turns off usb charge. But thats a pain to do because it makes me mess with the registry everytime i want to turn that option off.
I would use bluetooth but i can't make my phone sync with my pc with it. I even created a thread asking for help but i got no awnser back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7257183#post7257183
I am a bit lost here. Anyways thank you for the help. At least now i know that it isn't that risky, although sometimes i need to connect my phone to the pc for text messaging or any other stuff that doesn't take more than 10 minutes.
Damn i would love to sync my phone with pc via bluetooth or wi-fi..
Noob here, not the OP, but thanks for this info. I had no idea car charging was a bad thing. Will make a habit of charging from the USB in the future.
Hi again, just read your other post and I remember when I got my Omnia I had to use bluetooth sync as it did not come with a cable.
I used this http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3163 guide.
I know it says Windows XP but once I had my phone set and I plugged my bluetooth dongle into my work machine and set the comm port it worked and that was Windows 7 also.
On the downside syncing via usb will suck your battery pretty quickly (about the same as being on a call)
I got my Triumph and it will not charge no matter where I have plugged it in or fiddled with the charger. It does not matter whether it is on or off. I have been using the wall charger that's included and I have tried USB through my computer. Before I go to the hassle of sending my triumph back I wanted to see if there is a solution. Thanks in advance.
The first one I got did this sometimes as well. I took it back and swapped it.
Jumpstart
My triumph would not even turn on strait out of the box. I had to "Jumpstart" the battery, here is a link on how to do it. thejosea.com/2011/02/jump-start-your-droid-when-no-wall.html (Sorry i cant post links yet, gonna have to copy paste)
You pretty much have to charge the battery by its self outside of the phone. Once you do this let it sit charging for about 20 minutes then try to charge it through the phone.
You should only have to do this once.
It seems like the batteries are not being shipped charged and they run "Dry".
You MIGHT want to try a different USB cable.
I'm using my Nook Color adapter(1A) and a generic USB cord which works fine, however one time I accidentally used my Optimus V cable and it would NOT charge while the MT was up and running, however it WOULD charge IF I powered down the MT...
I haven't even tried the cable that came with MT yet... nor have I tried charging via a USB port on my nb, but I imagine that would be REALLY sssslllloooowwwww....
I exchanged my device for a new one, and with my new phone, when plugged in, the lock screen no longer shows "Chargin" with the %. Any ideas how to bring it back?
It only shows that if you're on an AC charge. If you're on USB it won't.
I've tried on 2 different AC chargers and it still doesn't display
Same cord? The AC pins have to be shorted or it won't go into AC charge mode. I have a couple of USB cords that work fine for connections to the computer but will not go into AC mode (the USB cords that come with the Optimus are known for doing this on other phones, incidentally....)
It'll charge without AC mode being "engaged" but at the 500ma rate instead of the 1A rate, so it will take a lot longer.
the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
You might want to try plugging it into a wall (not pc) and leave it for 20 minutes. Mine ran completely dry one time and it wouldn't display nothing until it charged for a while. If you've already tried this then definitely take it back.
nickmcnamara said:
the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
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*update* They are fixing my phone now and i should get it in 5-7 business days no problems they received the phone and started the repair
I had the same problem but different solution.
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
Froxen said:
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
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I let my battery die down and also did a battery memory reset, then the phone acted bricked.
Then I tried this to revive and it worked!
Thanks for the help here I did this but when I connected the batter to the phone nothing happened. I connected battery to battery let sit for about 90 sec put it in phone and plugged in and the red light is now on!
Thanks!
Well,
add my phone to the list. It started about 2 weeks ago when after completing charge, instead of maintaining trickle charge it just let battery drain. I woke up couple of times in the morning finding the phone's battery on it's last legs. Now it simply refuses to charge by anything but my car charger. Lucky for me (and I thought I would never say it in my life) I have a long commute to work and it allows me to recharge the phone while I enjoy typical traffic delights.
I am going to call Motorola and discuss my options with them. I hate doing this as my phone is long since rooted and running CM7, so I will probably have to revert to factory settings before sending it off and if they decide to exchange I would be running a chance of receiving one with bad GPS.
yes i've had this problem to i have to charge my phone on a Samsung charger no motorola charger will work on my phone.
Sorry, I'm somewhat new here.
I have a Motorola Triumph and it just stopped working. The general idea is that the Micro-USB port was shoved up into the device?
How do you go about contacting Motorola about sending it back to be repaired?
I have delt with this problem SO MUCH, have you tried my battery charging fix yet ? I have the link posted in this section called battery charging fix, Hope this helps you it sucks when your phone won't charge.
Well the problem is that it won't even turn on. I think the battery has some kind of charge but when I hit the power button, it vibrates like it's booting up then stays off.
I don't know that much about phones, but from what I can gather off Google and the various threads on XDA (Great site, by the way!) the general consensus is that it's the micro-usb port.
Granted, I may be wrong, which is a very real possibility. Heh.
Well 2 things, have you replaced your recovery with the clockwork recovery image ? If so try any means nessary to get into recovery, My old Triumph would NOT charge with any motorola charger, I belive this is a defect with the triumph. You might try a powermat of some kind to get enough power to get to recovery & do what my guide says to fix this most pain in the ass problem, Or get another battery & follow the guide. It's worth a shot anyway. otherwise you've got two options replace it or open it up, if you're gonna open it up then get a super fine sautering tip or file one down to needle size, this is how I do precision sautering on circut boards.
No, I had downloaded Clockwork with the intention of installing a 2.3 rom on it, but never got around to it. As for the charger, my Triumph charges with any micro-USB, from my old LG and Samsung chargers to the Motorola charger that came with it. It acts weird though when I plug it into a computer, saying it is connected to a computer, then that it's not, then that it is, then that it's not, repeatedly. I usually just end up turning it off so it won't do that.
I find it weird, though, that now when I try to charge it, the charging light up where the speaker is will not come on, as if it isn't charging. (And I don't think it is charging.)
I've also tried putting it into the "recovery mode". (Like I say, not too knowledgeable about phones yet. Learning experience. ) When I boot it up (into "recovery mode" or "regular" (?) mode) it just vibrates like it should then does nothing.
Edit: It finally did boot into the "recovery mode", but the touch button things at the bottom (menu, home, back, and search) don't do anything, and I cannot get into the menu to do a factory reset.
I don't think it's the battery now? I am more confused then I was when I started, and appreciate any and all help!
Today my Triumph seemed to be draining the battery faster than normal, though I was also making a lot more calls than normal. I have a cable plugged into my PC at work which I plugged into my phone but the driver install window didn't pop up like it normally does and my PC's network connection got very slow. I unplugged it and my PC connection was fine again. I left my phone unplugged for the most part after that though I did plug it in once or twice. I don't think it was ever truly recognized by my PC at work today (it has worked before) though I'm not certain.
When I was about to go home I noticed my phone was off. I knew it was low on battery so I assumed that it had turned off due to low battery. It couldn't have been off any more than 30-60 minutes. I didn't think it should have turned off already for low battery yet though.
I plugged it into my car charger and my phone refused to turn on. About 20 minutes later i unplugged my phone and the red charging light was still on. I had to pull the battery. I then turned on my phone and it was working, but low on battery.
About 45 minutes later I drove home with my phone plugged in, but I didn't check to see if the charging light was on. The phone was still on. When I got home I tried plugging in the phone and I noticed that it was not charging. It still isn't. I have tried the following:
Restarting phone
Plug in while it is turned off (charge light comes on but not charging animation, must pull battery for light to go off. phone will not start while plugged in or charge light is on)
Try plugging into computer rather than wall
Try car charger
Swap battery to stock battery (I use an Anker battery rather than the stock. I haven't used my stock battery for a few weeks to a month. It should have been fully charged but only had less than 50%) and try everything again with same results
Right now I have my Anker battery in which was nearly dead (below 10%) plugged into the wall with it off hoping it will charge. My phone is mostly stock other than I rooted it using the b_randon14's method, installed b_randon14's tweak mod, and flashed in the Sprint PRL using a method from howard forums with the 60681 version. I had links but had to remove them due to not previously posting on this forum.
I noticed the usb cable is not solid in the prot on my phone, but it never was and doesn't seem any different. For example I can move the cable back and forth a little bit while plugged in. It remains plugged in when I do this and while the phone is off it knows it is plugged in obviously. Any ideas?
Ok... I left it plugged in while off for an hour then it started working... very odd. Nevermind then I guess, lol.
Saw this thread, was going to suggest that. Your issue seems to be one that happens across all sorts of devices that have rechargeable batteries, even Android phones (and especially $&!t MP3 players that you'll find at K-Mart). I once made the mistake of buying a $30 MP3 player that refused to turn on once its battery dropped to a certain level. Twice. From K-Mart, of course.
Thank goodness for returns.
I am still having issues and it is really frustrating. Sometimes it will charge when on, some times it won't. The only thing I think MIGHT be common between when it does and doesn't work is how much battery is left. I think it might work more often when the battery is closer to a full charge. What I often do is plug in the phone, shut it off, it will charge but charging animation isn't there and I cannot turn it on until the charging animation shows up. I think it only shows up when the phone is fully charge or close to it (I've only ever seen it when it is fully charged).
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of concrete information on this as i haven't had much time to troubleshoot and verify any of my suspicions. I do know that USB Debugging has nothing to do with it and clearing my battery statistics didn't have any affect either. This issue is very frustrating and I believe are all software based, not hardware.
Any ideas or pointers?
Out of curiosity, have tried a different USB cable? I know that you talked about switching chargers, and I couldn't tell if this was just the base unit and you plugged the same cable in or, if it was a completely different charger and cable.
I have a wall charger with a usb cable at my office, a wall charger with a (different) usb cable at my house, and a car charger with its own non detachable usb cable. All have the same issue.
I have an iPaq 111, part of the 110 series. It's been stored in a closet for over two years. I hooked a batter charger to the battery itself (outside of the device) to charge it up enough to be able to take a charge once I put it back inside the device.
Once I did that, it powered right up, and everything worked perfectly. Then I went to unplug it, and surprise to me, it shuts off.
I've tried EVERYTHING, HP doesn't even publish there ROM. Found a setup utility to download to my PC to access my iPAQ, but it's in German, and high school was a long time ago so it's hard to understand; but what I can understand enough is that it cannot find a device. Same goes with the extension I installed through HP's website, it only finds my HP computer.
I've plugged it into my computer and the light is GREEN, suprisingly, but it does not turn on. If I plug it into the AC power adapter, it DOES turn on, stays green, and once on the homescreen, shows battery at 100% (was 23% onwards today when I was charging it). My voltage meter shows about 4 volts coming from the battery. Contacts on all ends are clean. ROM issue? Yes, I have tried soft and HARD resets.
Any help will be much appreciated. Please please please! THank you!
Battery is not fine, its dead. The proof is the fact that on AC power it turns on, but not when connected to.USB. AC power has enough amps to directly power the device, USB does not. When connected to USB power is indirectly drawn, as the phone attempts to use battery power for operation while charging it at the sametime, thus lessening the total draw. It still however needs battery to work.
Basically, the battery is dead. By a new one of eBay.
icenight, THANK YOU for the reply, it was so quick. I have figured it was the battery, BUT:
I've checked the battery with a voltmeter and it shows over 4V- using my good Fluke. Also, when it's plugged in, it progressively showed the battery charging and it's now at 100%...
Are you still thinking it could be the battery? Not enough amps from the battery? I hate to sound cheap, but it's more about the wait- I want to eBay this iPaq since I don't use it and it keeps getting in the way!
Thanks again
iPaq still not working
New battery arrived. Still does the same thing. I've read around and it could be the ROM, but it wont stay on when plugged into the PC USB port. Computer sometimes makes a noise when I plug and unplug it though. Even put a homemade "in-line" power supply to it using a 5V 1.5A adapter. This allows it to stay on when plugged into the PC usb, but there is no communication. This thing is a pile of **** I tell ya.
Any help would be so much apprecaited. Thank you so much. I can barely get past these "captcha" thingys.
Regards,
Robert