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[SPOKE TOOO SOON] Sick and tired about Radio issues :( :(

Hi!
I'm soooooo damn tired facing thousands of radio issues day in and day out
I'm using radio rom 1.15 and i find it extremely buggy . I looked through the forums and noone seems to be complaining, so i wonder if i'm the jinx here :/
The problems i face are -
1. All of a sudden i cant make calls. It throws a notification popup saying "The call has failed". Thanks! The only way out....restarting the radio. And yea, thats a nightmare too....going to comm manager, switching of phone, and switching it back on....the damn thing doesnt work right AT ALL! I switch it off....and push the button again to turn it back on, nothing happens....i push it again and again and again a million times....it gets too painful. So what do i do instead? soft reset
2. My gprs connectivity goes for a toss every now and then. again, the same ordeal....it never connects until i soft reset or restart the radio.
3. The worst part, when the phone module has taken a crap....i.e....reached a state where no calls go thru (refer problem 1.), i cant even receive incoming calls! The person calling me gets a ringing tone, but my phone's a dead corpse here. All messages sent to me are "apparently delivered" but nothing shows up here....
Is it just me?
Is there a better radio rom?
I restart my phone roughly 5 times a day, once in the morning when i wake up WITHOUT FAIL....and all this is getting to me really bad :-/
San

Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.

Radio versions works differently depending on your location.
Try other radio versions.
Or better yet, just use the radio version that came with your device.
Do not upgrade your radio unless your having problems with it.
Like our friend here at xda-developers said, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."

arvind09 said:
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
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well, i've reverted back to 1.09, lets see if its any better!
i feel sooo sick sometimes, i think of buying another normal phone! But hell, i love my universal so much that i cant do it....i'd rather put up with all the $hit it throws at me... !
cheers, and thanks for ur help everyone! i'll post back and let u knw if its still coughing up!
San

Radio Rom?
If you are still having issues, also post back your OS Rom that you are running, this may also have some bearing on the underlying issues.
Cheers,
Beast

Using radio 1.15:
With Ivan's base it causes my device to experience problems with the phone and GPRS\3G
With Midget's base everything seems to work fine
(btw I have an O2 Exec - Just suggesting that it may be the differences in hardware...)

dreamtheater39:
Same problem here.... Since I (sim) unlocked my MDA-Pro I'm experiencing EXACTLY the same problems as you have.
I posted several items on this forum, no success till now.
I'm thinking of reassembeling my old MDA-Pro, which is sim locked but screen broken. replacing the screen with my new (sim) unlocked MDA-Pro and see if the radio problem is still there. Just to exclude if the problem can be (sim) unlocking the phone...
But it is VERY anoying, I must agree...
regards
arjan

Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.

adonker said:
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
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Hi,
I doubt it is the SIm unlock.
I used Buzz's too, originally many Rom flashes past that.
I have Exec with Radio 15 and customised Rom with Midgets as base and no issues at all.
I would advise finding out what the latest Radio Ver offered by Manufac for your model and try that one for a bit.
Perhaps we should start a poll as to what each user is using and record Radio and OS Rom info with a comments section for any issues noted. It would at least help stablise WM6 builds.
Regards,
Beast

That damn radio issue!
I think it is time to stop discussing whether there is an issue and start looking for a fix!
First off: basically all HTC-phones have had a similar probblem, going back to the MDA 2. The key problem has been, that the data connection does not properly switch between mobile cells when you are on the move.
My device loses data connection every time I go into the parking garage, where there is no reception. Also, when I'm sitting in an area with very poor UMTS-coverage, the MDA-PRO loses connection after a few successful switches to GPRS. BTW: You can see you have a problem when Active Sync on the MDA says "Waiting for Network".
This wasn't such an issue as long as we didn't have the data connection constantly on. But, latest with the MS-Pushmail this has changed - the data connection is always on.
HTC and the operators have seemingly been working on this issue for quite some time. The only ROM on the MDA-PRO that was quite stable on this was actually the last T-Mobile WM-5 ROM.
With WM6 we are back to the issue. I no longer believe it is a problem with the Radio-ROM. Most likely is that there are differences in the driver dll. THis might explain why Midget's ROM seems to be better than IVAN's.
So, guys start troubleshooting!

Yes dreamtheater, are you running WM6? It is WM6 that seems to display these problems, regardless of the Radio. If I roll back to the official T-Mobile Rom (WM5) or Orange Rom (WM5) my problems disappear

HA!
Finally some usefull information. But very strange, buying a very expensive devise, but not being able to make a proper phonecall with it....
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YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I installed Radio 1.09 and so far sooooooooooo good!!!! None of the issues i mentioned, it works like a charm!!!
The only noticable issue i've found a couple times is, the gprs automatically disconnects once in a while, but i can ask it to reconnect and it does so without a fuss! Wowwwweeee!!!!
A BIGGG thanks to Arvind09 for this!!!!
So guys, i guess you got to try all radio roms and find which one works best for you, no other go as i see it
Cheers!
San

OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues

If you tried different Radio Version and still does not work, it is time you change a service provider, provided you are sure that your hardware never had problems before.
Bangalore is a big city, coverage should be good, could it be the part of area you are in has bad coverage, try asking you friends about service provider other than your current one in that particular area.
If changing provider still does not work, make a complaint to the providers, it nothing improves, its time you need to move somewhere else.

I have the same issue when I keep the Radio Band in Auto mode (GSM/3G) I change my phone to GSM and it is better.

Ye, I did the same too. only switch manually to 3G when needed. I almost forgot about this point.
Furthermore, GSM mode makes the battery last more days than 3G mode.

encountered the same probs, 4 me radio 1.12 is the most stable one (I believe it's an exotic/not commonly used version)

I have been struggeling with this since the first WM6 Pre-release ROM came out on this forum. Tried all the radio ROMs available, without succes. As said, the only ROM that does not suffer from this, is the latest WM5 ROM.

dreamtheater39 said:
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
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Ok could you tell me which provider are subscribed to? I use Airtel and hutch on both my pocket pc(universal and orbit)Ive noticed that airtel tends to loose its signal whereas hutch has never given me a problem.for this reason i use hutch on the Uni,though i cannot say that im very happy with their service,they are any day much better tha Airtel and Idea both.Also try to change the rom and see if the problem still persists.

o2 Serra - GPS Fix fix available

Anyone noticed the GPS Fix fix on the o2 UK website..?

i noticed it ! installed it and the only thing it seems to visably install is quickGPS..
BUT it seems to work! Using copilot 7 i got a fix in under 10 seconds... seems to have definatly done the trick - only time will tell if this continues!
On another note ive heard a rumour from o2 that they are woking on an updated rom that should be out sometime over the next moth or so that will fix other problems with the serra including battery drain....

Garyph77 said:
i noticed it ! installed it and the only thing it seems to visably install is quickGPS..
BUT it seems to work! Using copilot 7 i got a fix in under 10 seconds... seems to have definatly done the trick - only time will tell if this continues!
On another note ive heard a rumour from o2 that they are woking on an updated rom that should be out sometime over the next moth or so that will fix other problems with the serra including battery drain....
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o0o - cool.
Could you upload the file? I don't have a Serra, but want to take a look..?

I have changed the ROM on my serra and now get a fix very quickly every time. What I have not cured is the slight lag whilst using the sat nav. Sometimes this seems OK but is a pain when going round a big roundabout and not sure what exit to take, as the device is a little behind.
Any feedback as to if this fix helps would be great.

Can anyone test speed lag? When you come to a complete stop and your speedometer reads 0, how long does it take for your GPS app to read 0?

Here's the link to o2's exe which install it on your Serra via the PC. They wanted a serial number to download it, but HTC123456789 worked fine lol.

I heard there was suppose to be a new rom from HTC to "fix" the GPS lag problem. Who knows when it will be "official" but you can bet it will show up on XDA before anywhere else

Aar0n said:
Here's the link to o2's exe which install it on your Serra via the PC. They wanted a serial number to download it, but HTC123456789 worked fine lol.
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From the filename it does look like it just installed QuickGPS

It is indeed just Quick GPS, but it works.
Without this application a lock could take upto 20mins.
With quick gps, it takes less than 2 mins.
Well done to HTC / O2 for taking action against an ongoing issue.
The workarounds have been good, but im glad to see an official fix.

itsnotmeeee said:
It is indeed just Quick GPS, but it works.
Without this application a lock could take upto 20mins.
With quick gps, it takes less than 2 mins.
Well done to HTC / O2 for taking action against an ongoing issue.
The workarounds have been good, but im glad to see an official fix.
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Is this the same quickGPS that comes with the stock ATT FUZE and most of the Fuze ROMs?

jank0023 said:
Is this the same quickGPS that comes with the stock ATT FUZE and most of the Fuze ROMs?
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no, but it is the same one as the latest raphael rom from htc.
this one is: 1.0 1815.2630
while some cooked rom have (for example RRE): 1.0 1817.3430

cant get it to install, it gave me a wrong rom verison error.

itsnotmeeee said:
It is indeed just Quick GPS, but it works.
Without this application a lock could take upto 20mins.
With quick gps, it takes less than 2 mins.
Well done to HTC / O2 for taking action against an ongoing issue.
The workarounds have been good, but im glad to see an official fix.
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itsnotmeee, you have your GPS working with this and no other tweaks ?

Can someone not in the UK\not on O2 verify that it does actually work
It could just be tweaking QuickGPS to work better with O2's towers

I don´t know if I am of any help here, but my Touch Pro came with Quick GPS pre-installed and didn´t help me from experiencing the same problems many others reported about earlier: no fix, losing fix. It seeemed always to work after a fresh reeboot, then after using tomtom for e few times (probably) the logging of sattelites prevented the dwvice from getting a fix.
I did the registry tweaks which solved the problem, however TT7 is still lagging if only slightly. This neither worsened nor improved after editing the registry.
Using ROM 1.90.407.4GER
Radio 1.02.25.19

that is the situation I am in
I have once again done a hard reset to start from scratch
I think I have mangaed to get a fix 3-4 times and all when testing, I have not yet used the GPS in anger as it refuses to get a fix when I actually want to use it
I have tried TT and now iGo
google maps got me a fix once only

Help Needed- Which is the latest Radio version for Vox (in India)..more questions

Hi everyone..
I use Vox with Airtel prepaid in India..
My phone is one year old now.. still under warranty..
I am facing a serious problem with calls as many incoming calls are not being notified on the phone.. though the caller says that he hears the call ringing..
This way i'm losing many calls..
There is a Thread in the forum about this problem but nobody came up with a good solution..
They said in that Thread that only thing that might work may be radio version change..
Now my questions-
1. Does anyone have a better solution to the call drop problem?
2. I am using the original ROM that came with the phone.. so can i change radio without affecting the original ROM.. will i lose my warranty?
3. Where can i get the latest radio?
4. Whats the procedure to change it?
THANKS EVERYONE.. AWAITING REPLY

lots of the radio roms can be found on xda ftp
you wont loose any data (but be sure your phone is fully charged!)
i dont know about warranty^^
its same prcedure like flashing a normal rom!
maybe uspl (first threat) is nessecary this coudl cause loose of waranty!

So you are the guy who has shown us the way for surfing via Airtel NOP. Thanks for that. And using UCWEB 6.3 java browser may allow you to remove NOP download limitation.
Now about your query. I think there is nothing regarding radio ver for India. I think the latest ver is 4.1.13.60 which I am using at present. By default my VOX came with previous ver 4.1.13.54. I have also tried the 4.1.13.47. All three are good and I could not notice any significant difference amongst them. All are available for download _ see wiki.
Reagarding flashing - the process is same as flashing OS ROMS and it shouldnot affect your installed apps - but then keeping a backup is always good. It will need unlocking your phone and also doing USPL which will void the warranty. But I dont think thats a problem. If anything goes wromg reflashing with shipped ROM should solve the problem before taking it to service centre.

One more thing when there is a question of warranty why not flash with original shipped ROM - I think it will not require unlocking and doing USPL. In the process your phone may also get rectified.

Try this solution!
asmarttechie said:
Hi everyone..
I use Vox with Airtel prepaid in India..
My phone is one year old now.. still under warranty..
I am facing a serious problem with calls as many incoming calls are not being notified on the phone.. though the caller says that he hears the call ringing..
This way i'm losing many calls..
There is a Thread in the forum about this problem but nobody came up with a good solution..
They said in that Thread that only thing that might work may be radio version change..
Now my questions-
1. Does anyone have a better solution to the call drop problem?
2. I am using the original ROM that came with the phone.. so can i change radio without affecting the original ROM.. will i lose my warranty?
3. Where can i get the latest radio?
4. Whats the procedure to change it?
THANKS EVERYONE.. AWAITING REPLY
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hi there. i had a similar problem. what software and third party programs r u running? sometimes when the base memory dips below say 8 mb, this can happen bcos a program called connmgr.exe gets disabled. so what happens is, the call is completed, but u cant either pick up the phone while ringing,. at best it shows up as a missed call notification. i dont think this is an issue with ur radio at all. my advice is, shut down most running programs. use a hibernate function that is available on software such as smart toolkit ( or sk tools lite ). this should solve ur problem. if not, pm me with a list of whatever 3rd party software u have.

Have you tried hard reset? A lot of times, some or the other intalled application causes problems, a hard reset cleans up such mess, but cleans up all your data and app from the phone memory as well .

what is ur radio version by the way? mines a pretty old one, and works perfectly ok. as addicted2xda says, try a hard reset if u have no other choice. im convincedthat it is an issue f free memory only. happened to me lots of times...have changed my rom now to fireburned's lite rom. seems to be pretty good so far!

Bro...
If you are on Airtel Pre Paid...this will continue to haunt you........ try as many ROM's and Radio Versions....... NO USE
I faced the same problem with Airtel Pre Paid in New Delhi..... I have tried all the Radio Versions available on the Net and as many as I could lay my hands on from elsewhere
Ultimate Solution.........
DUMPED the VOX till the time I am on Airtel Pre Paid and bought a Samsung......
Neither Airtel nor HTC Service Center has any solution to the problem..... Though HTC Service Center guys are dumbest ass**** you will ever find....
This problem was raised by me ages back in this forum and modaco.... was suggested some solutions but nothing works......
the choice was either continue to loose business or change the Handset..... I chose the latter....
best of luck
BTW if you find any solution....lemme know too

hey i was on airtel prepaid in madras, had no problems whatsoever. the great bsnl gave me hell earlier. but i had another handset then. dont be in a hurry to dump ur phone....just try it out. i dont know abt the signal quality in delhi though. on roaming it was pretty ok to me

else change over to postpaid. seems to make quite a difference. they do have a few good schemes. the postpaid scheme is supposed to come with a 64 k sim card which is faster and seems to have better signal reception. maybe that'll solve ur problem.

Hi...
I was never in hurry to dump the phone as I have been a HTC user thru'out....starting with SPV aka Canary...and so on....
I even changed the SIM to 64K ...
Tried every conceivable solution...... scanned the Phone for virus/ worms, tried all ROM furnished by the Learned here in the Forum.... Tried the Shipped WWE ROM with the original Radio version.....Tried all Radio versions including the Arabic Radio, Shipped Radio versions....
but the result was the same...
as for the signal quality..... am at same office and same factory as I was when I was using Canary, or other HTC phones and now Samsung.... so wudnt blame signal strength or location for the issue...
again.... if you find a solution lemme know too as the VOX is being used as her play mobile by my 7 yr old daughter at the moment.
thanxxx
BTW... try the Bluetooth Registry patch from HTC site and see if it helps your cause...because HTC claims that if you are using Bluetooth there are chances of Call drop. This is a suggestion from my side as I use Bluetooth Hands Free all the time and tried the Patch on my VOX but still the problem remained .... see if it helps ya out.

indtram said:
Hi...
I was never in hurry to dump the phone as I have been a HTC user thru'out....starting with SPV aka Canary...and so on....
I even changed the SIM to 64K ...
Tried every conceivable solution...... scanned the Phone for virus/ worms, tried all ROM furnished by the Learned here in the Forum.... Tried the Shipped WWE ROM with the original Radio version.....Tried all Radio versions including the Arabic Radio, Shipped Radio versions....
but the result was the same...
as for the signal quality..... am at same office and same factory as I was when I was using Canary, or other HTC phones and now Samsung.... so wudnt blame signal strength or location for the issue...
again.... if you find a solution lemme know too as the VOX is being used as her play mobile by my 7 yr old daughter at the moment.
thanxxx
BTW... try the Bluetooth Registry patch from HTC site and see if it helps your cause...because HTC claims that if you are using Bluetooth there are chances of Call drop. This is a suggestion from my side as I use Bluetooth Hands Free all the time and tried the Patch on my VOX but still the problem remained .... see if it helps ya out.
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HMMM.....man, i pity ur fate! but did u try shutting down all running programs? again, what third party stuff did u have running? as i said earlier, a program called connmgr.exe shuts down or malfunctions at memory levels <8mb. send me a list of what third party stuff u had. maybe theres something in that!

mines very old radio and rom. never had this problem, and in madras the signal per se anywhere is lousy. so maybe it isnt an issue with the firmware at all. what rom were u using last? and wht radio version?

Last ROM on my Phone:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard (Build 20282.1.3.6) by frauhottelmann
Last Radio Version Tried:
4.1.13.47_02.98.90
RIL Version
2.002
The Signal strength shown on the phone has NO Issues whatsoever....
No other software running on the device other than the ones started by the frau's ROM.... was aware of the fact that some third party softwares could create issues so never bothered loading them unless got the phone working in stable mode for a week or so......
thanxxx

[Q] GPS Freeze

Hi All,
I got a strange problem regarding the GPS function of the phone.. when I start a program requirering GPS (TomTom, HTC GPSTool, Chartcross GPSTest) the phone freezes after 5-10seconds and I have to pull the battery out.
I did not had this problem 2/3 weeks ago and nothing has changed since than, just normal usage (dropped it once..)
First I thought it was a TomTom problem or just a problem in the Rom..
I use the EnergyRom currently, but after trying 2 different Roms the problem still existed..
Do you think that there is any program/system thing that could cause this or is my GPS antenna broke or something like that.. and if it's so, can it be fixed or am I in deep trouble..

I am having the same issue, I have had my raph for over 12 months now and its been working fine, using eneryrom, and it was working fine with this ROM until the other day...
No need to pull the battery out, I can reset it by the hard ware reset button.
But still sucks I cant use tom tom
Anyone else got any ideas?

Yeah I found that resetting thing out too I received an idea via a P.M. to reflash the radio, this did not help me.. maybe it will help you out!
I can't even use GPS test it freezes up everytime.. so frustrating if you've tried a lot of things but still the problem remains!

I am having the same problem too....i didnt start until 4 days ago...i have changed the radio and rom still same problem....it freezes up on all those including googlemaps

Ive had the same problem as you guys. Once the device gets a lock on gps it will freeze. Ive been using energy roms since the start and just recently its been doing this.
I solved it by switching to a different radio. but for some reason i cannot go back to the radio i was using because it has this problem. hope that helps til an answer can be figured out as to why its doing this.
btw i was using radio 1.02.25.28

GPS isnt working, can anyone help?

Hi all!
Been all over the forum looking for a solution. From what I understand I think I have a faulty handset but it's just come back from from repairs (for other problems) with updated rom/radio. Seems a little strange as it was working before I sent it, now its not.... Same handset...
When I run Google maps and Waze they both see the GPS but it wont pick up any satellites...
Before you say it, i've tested this on the road, in a field .ect so it isnt the signal, tried setting it up manually in google maps, still no joy.
Am I going to have to be without my baby for another week?
Any advice would be welcome, thanks in advance

Hi mate...
I offer no helping hints.. but I got mine back from HTC HK for a shattered screen and had the same problem. I had to return it to HTC to fix, its been about 2-3 weeks and still no answer. They initially told me that its may be just the GPS or associated chip set wasn't plugged in properly... So they will fix it with out charge (incl. freight chargers)
So your not alone with this problem

Try gpstest free fom this page to just test your gps inpriciple excluding any other apps:
http://www.chartcross.co.uk/

Thank you
why_999 said:
Hi mate...
I offer no helping hints.. but I got mine back from HTC HK for a shattered screen and had the same problem. I had to return it to HTC to fix, its been about 2-3 weeks and still no answer. They initially told me that its may be just the GPS or associated chip set wasn't plugged in properly... So they will fix it with out charge (incl. freight chargers)
So your not alone with this problem
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Thanks for the reply mate. Was beginning to think it was something i had done,
The main thing that baffled me was its the same even after a Hard reset and standard settings.
At least I know what I have to do. Cant believe I've got to send it off again..
Last time was for a faulty board, what next?
Back to the old Nokia 9500 then... Sigh...